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	<title>Comments on: We Don&#8217;t Need No Education (In Evolution and Sex)</title>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7675</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amber is a joke. We can have fun with her at her expense.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amber is a joke. We can have fun with her at her expense.</p>
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		<title>By: HP</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7674</link>
		<dc:creator>HP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2004 05:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that making fun of Amber&#039;s genuine stupidity is so easy that there&#039;s no reason to resort to completely spurious counterarguments. To wit:

1) There&#039;s nothing wrong with a preposition to use the end of a sentence of at.

2) Selective breeding has bugger all to do with evolution. Evolution can tell us why wolves/dogs are domesticable animals with extremely variable body plans, while foxes and coyotes are not, but it has nothing to do with getting a chihauhua and a mastiff from the same wolf/dog DNA.

Other than that, kudos to Wo&#039;C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that making fun of Amber&#8217;s genuine stupidity is so easy that there&#8217;s no reason to resort to completely spurious counterarguments. To wit:</p>
<p>1) There&#8217;s nothing wrong with a preposition to use the end of a sentence of at.</p>
<p>2) Selective breeding has bugger all to do with evolution. Evolution can tell us why wolves/dogs are domesticable animals with extremely variable body plans, while foxes and coyotes are not, but it has nothing to do with getting a chihauhua and a mastiff from the same wolf/dog DNA.</p>
<p>Other than that, kudos to Wo&#8217;C.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If she does start selling her work, we need to find out to whom so we can start eliminating those people from the gene pool&quot;-Texan Embsd by Bush.
No way! We need to find out who&#039;d by the drivel she writes so WE can submit stuff our own. If they buy HER stuff, they&#039;ll buy ANYTHING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If she does start selling her work, we need to find out to whom so we can start eliminating those people from the gene pool&#8221;-Texan Embsd by Bush.<br />
No way! We need to find out who&#8217;d by the drivel she writes so WE can submit stuff our own. If they buy HER stuff, they&#8217;ll buy ANYTHING!</p>
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		<title>By: John Lotts Calculator</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7672</link>
		<dc:creator>John Lotts Calculator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hey s.z., would it be a violation of the Blogger&#039;s Code of Ethics if you were to fix up Amber with that fella that you wrote about a couple of weeks ago... the one who called Flush Limburger&#039;s open-line show to complain about his Feminazi Sociology professor?

Sorry, Seb, but I think that he&#039;s just the guy for Amber!!!&quot;

I propose a 4 way no holds barred cage match between that guy, Kyle Williams, Ben Shapiro, and Judson Cox for a chance to date Amber Pawlik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hey s.z., would it be a violation of the Blogger&#8217;s Code of Ethics if you were to fix up Amber with that fella that you wrote about a couple of weeks ago&#8230; the one who called Flush Limburger&#8217;s open-line show to complain about his Feminazi Sociology professor?</p>
<p>Sorry, Seb, but I think that he&#8217;s just the guy for Amber!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>I propose a 4 way no holds barred cage match between that guy, Kyle Williams, Ben Shapiro, and Judson Cox for a chance to date Amber Pawlik.</p>
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		<title>By: djmm</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7671</link>
		<dc:creator>djmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2004 08:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The question that has to be asked: what benefit does the study of evolution have for man?&quot;

Uh ... dog breeding?  Anyone who can look at a minature poodle and and an Irish Wolfhound standing side-by-side and not be convinced that evolution is real, is really dim.  One is accomplished with human intervention, sure, but it&#039;s the same biological mechanism at work.  

The only people I know who taught their children at home did so because the math instruction at the local schools was not sufficiently rigorous.  But then, they are Democrats.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The question that has to be asked: what benefit does the study of evolution have for man?&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh &#8230; dog breeding?  Anyone who can look at a minature poodle and and an Irish Wolfhound standing side-by-side and not be convinced that evolution is real, is really dim.  One is accomplished with human intervention, sure, but it&#8217;s the same biological mechanism at work.  </p>
<p>The only people I know who taught their children at home did so because the math instruction at the local schools was not sufficiently rigorous.  But then, they are Democrats.</p>
<p>djmm</p>
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		<title>By: Thurber Hamm</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7670</link>
		<dc:creator>Thurber Hamm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2004 06:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well.............that&#039;s a typical cock lover for ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.that&#8217;s a typical cock lover for ya!</p>
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		<title>By: Sour Kraut</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7669</link>
		<dc:creator>Sour Kraut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2004 05:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it time for Amber to be rewarded with the moniker she has so obviously earned, &quot;America&#039;s Dumbest Libertarian&quot;?  She could team up with America&#039;s Worst Mom (tm TBOGG) and they could fight terrorist liberals side by side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it time for Amber to be rewarded with the moniker she has so obviously earned, &#8220;America&#8217;s Dumbest Libertarian&#8221;?  She could team up with America&#8217;s Worst Mom (tm TBOGG) and they could fight terrorist liberals side by side.</p>
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		<title>By: d. wineman, II</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7668</link>
		<dc:creator>d. wineman, II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2004 02:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Much of the scientific &#039;evidence&#039; surrounding evolution has been wholly made up.&quot;

Just like those DNA thingies that every life form possesses for some reason.  But since it is difficult for Amber to SEE them, like so many Grr-animals outfits on the racks at JC Penney, they must be made up by beastly immoral rakes out to take advantage of her nonevolved loveliness.

&quot;I have heard some people say they believe that our morals are developed based on evolution ? that through evolution, we developed some kind of knowledge that murder is wrong.&quot;

Um, nature, Mr Pawlik, is what we are put on earth to rise above. Or so says Rose Thayer, a fully evolving Hepburn on the African Queen.

&quot;Children who are put through the public school?s sex education program have a tendency to come out with a completely de-mystified and mechanical view of sex.&quot;

Hey, I saw that same South Park episode. It was kewl!  The gerls were all like skeered of the boys cuz the boys would give them like STDs and stuff and the boys had to go out and get CONDOMS and put them on their heads, it was like sooo funnee.  Sex had been completely de-mystified for them and it was such a shame because they would be warped for the rest of their cartoon lives.  I cried as I imagined them in their college years, where much like Amber, they would lead bleak de-mystified college sex lives where only the bright garish cartoon colors cheer them up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Much of the scientific &#8216;evidence&#8217; surrounding evolution has been wholly made up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just like those DNA thingies that every life form possesses for some reason.  But since it is difficult for Amber to SEE them, like so many Grr-animals outfits on the racks at JC Penney, they must be made up by beastly immoral rakes out to take advantage of her nonevolved loveliness.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have heard some people say they believe that our morals are developed based on evolution ? that through evolution, we developed some kind of knowledge that murder is wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, nature, Mr Pawlik, is what we are put on earth to rise above. Or so says Rose Thayer, a fully evolving Hepburn on the African Queen.</p>
<p>&#8220;Children who are put through the public school?s sex education program have a tendency to come out with a completely de-mystified and mechanical view of sex.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, I saw that same South Park episode. It was kewl!  The gerls were all like skeered of the boys cuz the boys would give them like STDs and stuff and the boys had to go out and get CONDOMS and put them on their heads, it was like sooo funnee.  Sex had been completely de-mystified for them and it was such a shame because they would be warped for the rest of their cartoon lives.  I cried as I imagined them in their college years, where much like Amber, they would lead bleak de-mystified college sex lives where only the bright garish cartoon colors cheer them up.</p>
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		<title>By: platosearwax</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7667</link>
		<dc:creator>platosearwax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 17:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She isn&#039;t even a good objectivist.  I&#039;ve known plenty and not one would spout the drivel this chick is spouting.  Ayn would have excommunicated her long ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She isn&#8217;t even a good objectivist.  I&#8217;ve known plenty and not one would spout the drivel this chick is spouting.  Ayn would have excommunicated her long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: agrajag</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7666</link>
		<dc:creator>agrajag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;More dominant though, are men who use evolution as an excuse for not picking women of moral character, instead rationalizing that, by nature, evolution forces them pick only women of youth and attractiveness. &lt;/i&gt;

Does she even believe herself when she comes up with lines like this?

Aside from everything else wrong with this statement, if evolution is just the &#039;excuse&#039; men use for going after hot young girls instead of moral, dependable, pudgy ones -- then what does she think is the &lt;i&gt;actual&lt;/i&gt; reason for said preferences?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>More dominant though, are men who use evolution as an excuse for not picking women of moral character, instead rationalizing that, by nature, evolution forces them pick only women of youth and attractiveness. </i></p>
<p>Does she even believe herself when she comes up with lines like this?</p>
<p>Aside from everything else wrong with this statement, if evolution is just the &#8216;excuse&#8217; men use for going after hot young girls instead of moral, dependable, pudgy ones &#8212; then what does she think is the <i>actual</i> reason for said preferences?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I am passionate about: freeing the Iranian people.&quot;
Perhaps she would be happier if she lived in a harem as one of the sultan&#039;s wives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;I am passionate about: freeing the Iranian people.&#8221;<br />
Perhaps she would be happier if she lived in a harem as one of the sultan&#8217;s wives.</p>
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		<title>By: gazould</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7664</link>
		<dc:creator>gazould</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 10:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I figured it out.  Ann Coulter has had really horrible insomnia lately.  She tried everything to get to sleep, but nothing worked.  Then she met this girl named Amber Pawlick who said all the insane things that even she, Ann Coulter, could not bring herself to publish.  They moved in together and Ann helped Amber begin an Objectivist revolution--but it turns out that AMBER IS ANN!!!!  Amber is the dark(er) side of Ann.

Also, as opposed to Ann, Amber is a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I figured it out.  Ann Coulter has had really horrible insomnia lately.  She tried everything to get to sleep, but nothing worked.  Then she met this girl named Amber Pawlick who said all the insane things that even she, Ann Coulter, could not bring herself to publish.  They moved in together and Ann helped Amber begin an Objectivist revolution&#8211;but it turns out that AMBER IS ANN!!!!  Amber is the dark(er) side of Ann.</p>
<p>Also, as opposed to Ann, Amber is a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Gillett</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7663</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Gillett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 07:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Amber does as good a job &quot;freeing the Iranian people&quot; as she does convincing people of her half-witted viewpoints, the Ayatollah&#039;s got nothing to worry about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Amber does as good a job &#8220;freeing the Iranian people&#8221; as she does convincing people of her half-witted viewpoints, the Ayatollah&#8217;s got nothing to worry about.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see how she can justify the teaching of physics since quantum theory clearly demonstrates that everything is just random chance. Surely that is a great moral vortex.

And how exactly is biology separate from evolution. 

Clearly, I am ill-educated to not grasp these critical points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see how she can justify the teaching of physics since quantum theory clearly demonstrates that everything is just random chance. Surely that is a great moral vortex.</p>
<p>And how exactly is biology separate from evolution. </p>
<p>Clearly, I am ill-educated to not grasp these critical points.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mind Bomber</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7661</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mind Bomber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 06:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awww, give Amber a break. She&#039;s just looking out for the rest of the human race. See, as an secular atheist, &lt;i&gt;she&lt;/i&gt; doesn&#039;t have a problem with being exposed to evolutionary teachings; in fact, through her extensive training in science, she has sifted through all the evidence and scholarly debate and found the proof sorely lacking without being swallowed by a nihilistic whirlpool. No, the problem is, if all the feeble-minded hoi polloi were told the awful truth about our origins, what would stop &lt;i&gt;them&lt;/i&gt; from flinging feces at each other in public when upset? We must allow them their illusions, for their sake and ours. It&#039;s a terrible burden, to be the guardian of truths heavy enough for the shoulders of Atlas (no Randian pun intended).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww, give Amber a break. She&#8217;s just looking out for the rest of the human race. See, as an secular atheist, <i>she</i> doesn&#8217;t have a problem with being exposed to evolutionary teachings; in fact, through her extensive training in science, she has sifted through all the evidence and scholarly debate and found the proof sorely lacking without being swallowed by a nihilistic whirlpool. No, the problem is, if all the feeble-minded hoi polloi were told the awful truth about our origins, what would stop <i>them</i> from flinging feces at each other in public when upset? We must allow them their illusions, for their sake and ours. It&#8217;s a terrible burden, to be the guardian of truths heavy enough for the shoulders of Atlas (no Randian pun intended).</p>
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		<title>By: Linnaeus</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7660</link>
		<dc:creator>Linnaeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 04:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like a few of you got to the same observation that I was going to make, that Amber Pawlik&#039;s separation of evolution from biology indicates a lack of understanding of biology.  Modern biology makes little sense without its evolutionary component.

And while it is true that there are evolutionary biologists (like Richard Dawkins) who would attribute everything about human existence to evolutionary imperatives, she totally oversimplifies the discussion in biology.  The extent to which such things as emotion, morality, etc. are products of evolution is &lt;b&gt;contested&lt;/b&gt; to this very day.  It isn&#039;t the simplified picture she paints.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a few of you got to the same observation that I was going to make, that Amber Pawlik&#8217;s separation of evolution from biology indicates a lack of understanding of biology.  Modern biology makes little sense without its evolutionary component.</p>
<p>And while it is true that there are evolutionary biologists (like Richard Dawkins) who would attribute everything about human existence to evolutionary imperatives, she totally oversimplifies the discussion in biology.  The extent to which such things as emotion, morality, etc. are products of evolution is <b>contested</b> to this very day.  It isn&#8217;t the simplified picture she paints.</p>
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		<title>By: moroboshi</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7659</link>
		<dc:creator>moroboshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 03:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is that women who decry feminism are such ballbusters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is that women who decry feminism are such ballbusters?</p>
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		<title>By: glenstonecottage</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7658</link>
		<dc:creator>glenstonecottage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 03:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey s.z., would it be a violation of the Blogger&#039;s Code of Ethics if you were to fix up Amber with that fella that you wrote about a couple of weeks ago... the one who called Flush Limburger&#039;s open-line show to complain about his Feminazi Sociology professor?

Sorry, Seb, but I think that he&#039;s just the guy for Amber!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey s.z., would it be a violation of the Blogger&#8217;s Code of Ethics if you were to fix up Amber with that fella that you wrote about a couple of weeks ago&#8230; the one who called Flush Limburger&#8217;s open-line show to complain about his Feminazi Sociology professor?</p>
<p>Sorry, Seb, but I think that he&#8217;s just the guy for Amber!!!</p>
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		<title>By: glenstonecottage</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7657</link>
		<dc:creator>glenstonecottage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 03:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; I wouldn?t let my child near the moral relativist, irrational, feminist, liberal public schools... &lt;/i&gt;

Hey, Amber, you forgot &quot;terrorist-controlled&quot;...

...as a public school teacher, I can reveal that one of our big problems is that some students just haven&#039;t quite evolved to the point of removing their ideological blinders long enough to learn anything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> I wouldn?t let my child near the moral relativist, irrational, feminist, liberal public schools&#8230; </i></p>
<p>Hey, Amber, you forgot &#8220;terrorist-controlled&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;as a public school teacher, I can reveal that one of our big problems is that some students just haven&#8217;t quite evolved to the point of removing their ideological blinders long enough to learn anything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Texan Embsd by Bush</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/435.html#comment-7656</link>
		<dc:creator>Texan Embsd by Bush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2004 02:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just googled Amber to try to find out who the heck she is.  I found her website, with this hilarious heading:

*Well, it&#039;s about time I took down my website. It will be taken down any week now anyway. I know many of you have enjoyed my articles. I&#039;m taking them down, mostly, because I plan on using some of them to make money off of. Anyway, this site is going to be dedicated to something I am passionate about: freeing the Iranian people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just googled Amber to try to find out who the heck she is.  I found her website, with this hilarious heading:</p>
<p>*Well, it&#8217;s about time I took down my website. It will be taken down any week now anyway. I know many of you have enjoyed my articles. I&#8217;m taking them down, mostly, because I plan on using some of them to make money off of. Anyway, this site is going to be dedicated to something I am passionate about: freeing the Iranian people.</p>
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