Comments on: Not So Snappy Answers To Simple Questions

By: Torville

Torville — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:56:13 +0000

Okay, I know I’m 52 comments down this thread and no one will read it, but when I read this six-minute assessment by Brzezinski and see that Lehrer’s take-away is “So pull out, Dr. Brzezinski, now?”, I want to scream on the good doctor’s behalf:

“JESUS CHRIST, what is wrong with you? You were nodding while I was talking; were you listening to me or is your head on tumble-dry? I just spent six minutes of my life explaining what the hell is going on in terms I would expect most bright third-graders to cope well with, and you want me to agree to boil it down to a snappy pull-quote? NO! If you followed my argument; if you cannot find FAULT with my argument, then you should be able to figure out what we should do all by yourself, and so should every person who watches this show. This should not be the Argument Clinic, where one person says “Yes” and the other person says “No”, and your job is to turn to the camera and say, “There you have it”, because, frankly, if that’s what they pay you for, then I think your position can be filled more economically!”

*whew*

By: DocAmazing

DocAmazing — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:44:24 +0000

Shoelimpy: it was Bush who ordered the UN arms inspectors out.

Thank you for playing.

By: Fiorinda

Fiorinda — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:53:41 +0000

Shoelimpy: The UNITED STATESâ€™s (All America is at war, not just Bush) invasion of Iraq is the result of SADDAM HUSSEINâ€™s actions in not adhering to resolutions set up by the UNITED NATIONS (IE the official representative body of the entire world).

Oh right, the same United Nations that Bush appointed Bolton to be ambassador to — the same Bolton who said you could slice off ten floors at the UN and not miss them. That United Nations. Yeah, the guys who ordered the invasion really, really respect the UN — just like Mark Foley really, really still respects Shoelimpy after their night of passion. Yep.

By: Henry Holland

Henry Holland — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:30:20 +0000

I mean, the fact of the matter is that, three years after the occupation of Baghdad

OMG, Gary Ruppert *isn’t* a young Latino kid recently deported to Tijuana! He’s Zbigniew Brzezinski!

By: Oscar Wilde

Oscar Wilde — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 05:21:20 +0000

Youth is wasted on the young. Also, sarcasm is wasted on the sarcastic.

By: Shoelimpyâ„¢

Shoelimpyâ„¢ — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:22:55 +0000

Liberals need reminders from time time to time. You don’t have very good rememberies.

By: Notorious P.A.T.

Notorious P.A.T. — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:18:50 +0000

The UNITED STATESâ€™s invasion of Iraq is the result of SADDAM HUSSEINâ€™s actions in not adhering to resolutions set up by the UNITED NATIONS

Oh, right, I forgot that he didn’t let the UN inspectors back in, and he refused to prove he didn’t have WMD beyond a reasonable doubt. Thanks for the reminder.

By: RobW

RobW — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:27:23 +0000

Both Turkey and Iran have been launching military raids into northern Iraq against a Kurdish paramilitary group that is based there, posing a dangerous new threat to stability both within Iraq and to the region.

New? The Turks and Iranians have been making incursions into Kurdish Iraq since the early 90s.

Nothing to do with the Ottoman Empire, unless you are a liberal marxist who wants to tie in every little two-bit dictators actions with what happened 3,000 years ago or something, because really it isnâ€™t Saddamâ€™s fault.

Are people with multiple personality disorder usually this incoherent?

By: Shoelimpyâ„¢

Shoelimpyâ„¢ — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 01:59:41 +0000

I didn’t bring up the Ottoman Empire, mickey did. The UNITED STATES’s (All America is at war, not just Bush) invasion of Iraq is the result of SADDAM HUSSEIN’s actions in not adhering to resolutions set up by the UNITED NATIONS (IE the official representative body of the entire world). Nothing to do with the Ottoman Empire, unless you are a liberal marxist who wants to tie in every little two-bit dictators actions with what happened 3,000 years ago or something, because really it isn’t Saddam’s fault.

By: DocAmazing

DocAmazing — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 01:40:58 +0000

Let’s see if I follow your “reasoning”…Bush’s invasion of Iraq is a result of…the Ottoman Empire’s having been one of the Central Powers in the First World War, and pointing this out is…slimy.

Shoelimpy, do you ever read your own writing?

By: Shoelimpyâ„¢

Shoelimpyâ„¢ — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:35:23 +0000

It is rather slimey around these parts. I always feel tainted when I come to a liberal blog.

By: mikey

mikey — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:22:28 +0000

Gawd, I feel the need to bathe. Get these slugs away from me, fer crissakes…

mikey

By: annieangel

annieangel — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:19:15 +0000

Hey Mickey, let’s just stop all this crap and be friends. I’m in a good mood today and feel generous towards my inferiors.

By: Shoelimpyâ„¢

Shoelimpyâ„¢ — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:19:00 +0000

They have no one to blame but themselves, Mikey. That is the whole point. They have to take responsibility for their own actions, instead of blaming the rest of the world. And you have no one to blame but yourself for being an idiot. Why do you feel the need to attack Miss Annie?

By: mikey

mikey — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:15:34 +0000

Ya know, if the Ottomans hadnâ€™t decided to side with the Germans in World War I, they wouldnâ€™t have had the problems they had.

Yep, and if annie had a brain she’d still be an asshole…

mikey

By: Shoelimpyâ„¢

Shoelimpyâ„¢ — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:04:25 +0000

Ya know, if the Ottomans hadn’t decided to side with the Germans in World War I, they wouldn’t have had the problems they had. Ya know, they picked the wrong side, they lost. Get over it.

By: annieangel

annieangel — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:02:28 +0000

It’s impossible to have an intelligent discussion with you, Mickey. You always resort to your bullshit of how, “i’m outta here, I was in a war and I’m fucking entitled to no one opposing my insane view of reality!! Why don’t you die Annie???”

Why the fuck do you think I care what you say, Mickey? After the horrible way you conducted yourself towards me, you can go fuck off right now for all I care.

By: annieangel

annieangel — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:59:49 +0000

LOL!

What do Saddam and Little Miss Muffet have in common??

They both have Kurds in their way!!!!!

Old joke, baby. What makes you think I need a history lesson? I’m schooling you, remember?

And not only the Turks consider the PKK terrorists. Everyone does.

By: mikey

mikey — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:47:06 +0000

Yeah, Doc, I’m not sure what annie’s trying to say, although listening to that simpleton’s take on global geopolitics is as painful as listening to a six year old describe the world of pokemon. Apparently, annie’s “knowledge” of the region goes back, oh, about 3 years.

Annie. Go read a history of the Ottoman empire. Learn how the borders as they exist today came about, and understand that the ethnic and sectarian tensions that you speak so casually of have existed for a thousand years. Try to understand that the Kurds, the Turkmen, the Arabs, the Persians, the Shi’a, the Sunni, the Druze and the Christians will struggle to live together in peace no matter what the outcome in Iraq is. Learn about the Lebanese civil war, the armenian genocide, the british mandate, palestine, the end of world war one, partition and UN181. And then come back and I’ll consider having an intelligent discussion with you. Otherwise, please, for the sake of us all, shut the fuck up…

mikey

By: DocAmazing

DocAmazing — Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:21:49 +0000

A little historical context is apparently in order for young Annie, who apparently thought Kurds had something to do with cottage cheese prior to 2003. Turkey has been fighting a Kurdish nationalist movement (terrorists, according to the Turks) known as the PKK since at least the 1970s, and probably earlier. The Kurdish peshmergas have been fighting a hit-and-run war with the Turks, who have responded with all kinds of secret police fun (torture, assassinations, and all the fun things we’re doing in Iraq). As part of that fight, the Turks have been bombing Kurdistan (in fact they get really pissed off anytime anybody uses the name “Kurdistan”) for quite a while now–it’s nothing new.

Back to your regularly scheduled rant.