Well, maybe this three hour tour won’t be so bad…
John “Jesus Was a” Carpenter, iPost, uPost, Wii All Post for Christian Post:
The Zero Sum Game of “Gay Rights”
Obamacare, Obamacare, Obamacare, Obamacare, Obamacare…
The fetid river reeks of the spilled blood of a thousand corpses. Nothing new for these well-trod veins through the heart of this vile jungle, but it has become worse to bear now.
Where once these streams flowed free well enough for our boat to avoid the rot and decay that surrounded us, the river has now dried up, leaving us stranded among the human wreckage, our every sense assaulted.
The unholy din from the trees hath been our only companion for who knows how many fortnights. A monomaniacal cry of Obamacare pierces through the day and night. Sleep is a distant dream and I fear what remains of my wits will die along with my body on this rotted wastes…
Or I could just say fuck it and take the stream less traveled.
Eh… fuck it.
Shorter (or the last port before Jungle):
- If I can’t tell you are an inferior swine just by looking at you, then clearly you are the real bigoted oppressor. Take that, you fucking faggot!
In retrospect, it makes perfect sense that the “main” shows would all be stuck on Obamacare repeat. The Big Money is fucking terrified about the fact that despite their best efforts, the health care improvements are actually looking like they’re a slight improvement and might give Obama a lasting positive legacy unlike that enjoyed by any Republican president since Eisenhower. And so the orders are to shut it down. Or rather to scream incessantly about it in the hopes that if you blow enough smoke over an area, everyone will suddenly start hallucinating fire.
Which unfortunately leaves us snark merchants in a little bit of a bind. I mean, there’s only so much one can say about repeated desperate pointless lies about a program that has already passed and is so popular that it’s operating at a couple 100%s capacity.
It’s a slight improvement on health care and cuts out some of the most egregious scams perpetrated by the industry. There’s only so much to say on the topic.
So if the “big names” in the conservative movement insist on engaging in some strange aural version of the Chinese Water Torture, then maybe it’s time to go underground.
Time to chuck off these boring repetitive “mainstream” labels and check out the raw indie sound of those who have spent so long in the deep tiger-infested forest that they’ve become popular children’s story heroes based on racist myths of the inherent superiority of white man DNA.
That’s right! It’s time to peek in on the sites that would never before merit a Sadly, No! treatment and see what new crazy is being generated where hallucinogens and white male angst collide.
And take a tour of the unknown streams of this vast and terrifying jungle.
Our first port of call is an attempt by the Christian Post to horn in on The Guardian’s very successful “Comment is Free” blog network, only instead of being filled with semi-intelligent blog posts covering a wide array of little-mentioned issues and from little-heard-from perspectives, it’s filled with Rapturist Diehards carefully pouring over their copies of Left Behind to make sure their Prepper Compound’s Beer Supply won’t be adversely affected by the collapse of society.
Perhaps the most effective argument for full legal legitimization of homosexuality is that being a homosexual is comparable to being a member of any other identity group, like being Chinese or black or Jewish.
I mean, it’s almost like they were people instead of three-headed snake monsters from the Planet G’tang. What. The. Fuck!
It’s akin to ethnicity, never mind that ethnicity is easily discernible by a quick look in the mirror
I mean, we know that the dirty filthy spics, niggers, or chinks are worthless chattel just by looking at them, but with the faggots, you can never tell. One a dem could be your bestest buddy for 20 years and you’d never know until he unhinged his jaw and birthed a tiny Joan Crawford from within his upper thorax.
Also, um… on that whole racial minority being visually obvious thing, yeah, sadly, no!
whereas “sexual orientation” is often the agonizing question of many years, for some, and apparently ignores the normal conclusion of a look in the mirror.
Which clearly is completely unrelated to rampant and unending discrimination against all those who admit to their attractions, the lack of mirrored life experiences in most mainstream entertainment, and of course, all the bigots trying to pretend that sexual attraction is a choice and those who are not straight just didn’t try hard enough*.
Nevertheless, the cause of “gay rights” has been furthered by claiming, first, that being homosexual is a matter of innate identity,
Luckily for the health and safety of those who would be targeted by these fag-born doppelgangers from Rigel VII, we were able to clearly and unequivocally prove that false… right? We did actually complete that step, right guys?
like race, and therefore to treat homosexuals differently is morally equivalent to racism.
And clearly as racist is the worst thing you can ever call someone and so worse than suffering actual racism, so it is for “homophobia” and Christian bigots are the Jews of Fabulous Fascism… right? Sorry, after that whole disproven fiasco, I’m kinda not sure where we’re going with this shit.
f that were the case, “gay rights” is a subset of human rights and so we’d expect to see the same positive expansion of freedoms for all people, wherever “gay rights” have gained ascendancy, just as we have whenever civil rights have expanded. But the opposite has been the case.
Now it all make-
Wait. What the holy loving fuck?
Full civil rights for blacks in the USA has been a positive for all Americans. Whites are better off with African-Americans not compelled to sit in the back of the bus or attend second-rate schools. The expansion of justice for black Americans has meant that white Americans don’t have to fear an aggrieved under-class is going to break out in race riots. They are better off morally and spiritually in not treating some of their neighbors as inferiors. Civil rights for ethnicities is a positive sum game, meaning we all come out winners. “Freedom and justice for all” results in a positive gain for all.
But “gay rights” is different. With every expansion of “gay rights” comes a loss of freedom for others, particularly those who, whether for religious or purely rational reasons, refuse to acknowledge the functional and moral equivalency of homosexuality.
Uh huhhhh. Yeah, little bit of a history lesson there, bucko. Back in the day, the “race realists” at the time who bristled at the notion that common sense observations of the inferiority of non-European stock could ever have been compared to the course regionalism that had led people to discriminate against whites for having been from German or Irish bloodlines, said the exact same fucking crap.
And they sure as shit thought that expanding rights to those inferior curs was a zero sum gain and they were actively losing very important religious and/or personal rights every time the law said they had to treat an inferior negro the same as a proper white man.
Letting a black woman sit in front or attend schools was an infringement of their most basic rights and marked the end of civilization as they knew it.
Hell, we don’t need to do a thought experiment to the distant past, there are still plenty alive today who view the existence of a black man as president, a right that has been legally allowed to them technically since this country began, as some unfair and insidious attack on them personally.
It’s simply the problem with oppression. The oppressor always views their unfair advantage as “natural” and any attempt to alleviate the suffering of the oppressed as a robbing of their “natural rights”.
It is a zero-sum-game, meaning when one side wins, the other loses.
There is a limited number of weddings. Every time a gay couple gets legally recognized as a committed relationship, a straight couple is taken out back and shot.
A baker or florist or photographer or reception hall owner who believes that homosexuality is wrong and does not want to offer his services to a homosexual wedding is now increasingly likely to be compelled to do so or face the loss of freedom to earn a living. Today people are facing the choice between whether to stay true to their beliefs or lend material support to a practice they regard as immoral.
I changed the word “homosexuality” to “miscegenation” and the word “homosexual” to “interracial” and it was the strangest thing, it suddenly transformed into an exact piece contemporary bigots were writing 50 years ago.
I mean, that’s just plain bizarre, right?
Just here, the homosexual rights advocate will insist that this is no different than the white racist having to serve blacks at his lunch counter or let them sit at the front of the bus, if they so choose.
Holy shit! The snark targets have become self-aware! RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!
The difference is that in no case was discriminating against blacks called for by a religion.
Oh, you poor deluded, brain-addled fucker. Roll the list:
Curse of Ham, any of the passages in the Old Testament or the Letters of Paul the Fucker on the existence of, trading of, and care for slaves and slave castes, Leviticus (because if it’s something terrible, you can be damn well be sure there’s a Leviticus quote to support it), and of course the numerous passages about how a slaves role was to obey their master and never think of emancipation. And of course, all the various shit the actual sects have pulled, such as Southern Baptists being literally created out of a racist schism or pretty much anything to do with the Mormons.
And that’s just the teaser trailer.
But I don’t know why you even bother to pretend. It’s just a facet of human behavior that if there’s something terrible and authoritarian people want to justify then people will twist their Holy Books to support it and make those passages the most important passages on the planet.
I mean, fuck, look at today with the wingnuts trying to argue that their God’s biggest hate-on is abortion when there is literally fuck-all about it in their supposed Most Holy of Texts or just the anti-gay movement which has like less than a dozen tops against male homosexuality, nothing against female homosexuality, and at least two major homosexual couples in the Bible who are lauded as great religious heroes.
Hell, there is still calls for discrimination against blacks based on religion right the fuck now so I really don’t know who you thought you were fooling with this wishful fucking bullshit.
Some misguided churches may have interpreted their religion that way but
Yeah, that’s about what I thought. No one.
the pages of the Bible are quite clear that “in Christ there is no Jew nor Greek” (Gal. 2:28) that the Lord wants us to “do justice” (Micah 6:8). Even such churches that succumbed to the cultural sin of racism were the minority. The late Professor Robert Fogel, Nobel laureate, found that it was Christians who ended the institution of slavery. Other religions also do not call their adherents to oppress people based on race. I know of no major religion that supports racism. Hence, there never was a precedent of a religion encouraging people to oppress a race and that was over-ridden by the constitution’s “equal protection” clause.
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What we have now is something entirely new in US history: people’s 1st amendment rights to practice their faith are being abrogated for the sake of furthering legal legitimization to a sexual preference.
Nevar before has such an indignity been forced, forced I say, on the American people in direct opposition to what religious bigots say is their first amendment rights to perpetuate hate on people based on their sexual preference.
Okay, maybe there was that whole Loving v Virginia thing. And there was the way the 13th Amendment ripped the right of proper white statesmen to own their own personal black fuck-toy. And the various anti-Marital-rape laws passed by 1993, which blocked a patriot’s ability to use even their own wife in this way.
I mean, not to go so dark we end up slipping into the Twilight Zone here, but pretty much every time we look at some horrible reality and belatedly realize that maybe we should stop, there is a reliable troupe of fucked up assholes who are right there bitching that it takes away their all important first amendment rights to be a sickening asshole.
The Puritans came to America for the right to live and worship as they believed God had told them in the Bible. Now that right is being stripped from Christians in the nation they helped create. As homosexual rights increase; Christians’ freedoms decrease.
Exactly what is one singular “freedom” that is robbed from you by some queer person just out living their life.
Cause, I’ve been seeing this argument for the last 10+ years, yet every time it’s come to the “proof” of this tautology it comes back to the same handful of cases which are always either:
A) Oh noes! We’re not allowed to fleece the government for free money while also refusing to accept the current government’s laws. WAAAH! We deserve free money!
B) It’s unfair! We tried to ruin the lives of filthy faggots and then they called us bigots and told their friends not to give us money. No one said there would be social consequences to fucking over someone.
C) WAAAH! We were happily fucking with queer people and then the mean government said we couldn’t do that anymore. How dare the mean old government infringe on our critical religious belief of going out of our way to be an imposition to the free lives of people we arbitrarily hate.
So exactly how, absent you going out of your way to fuck with me, is, to choose an example, my life as a trans* queer asexual in a polyamorous relationship (oooh extra scary) in any way robbing your freedom.
When I go to work, come home, fuck my partner and my girlfriend, where in there is an action that in any way affects your life in any other way than there is a tiny chance you may encounter me as a person who exists in the world and you’ll have to deal with that much as you would everything else that exists in this world?
Cause I’m honestly curious.
Thus far, according to “Crisis” magazine, there have been at least 11 instances of Christian business people facing threats, boycotts, protests, and the intervention of state or judicial authorities because they denied services for celebrating what either their faith or their reason (or both) told them was wrong.
Some of these things are not like the others. Some of these things just don’t belong.
Don’t like the free market? Stop worshiping it as a graven idol, you inbred fucks.
Some of them have been forced out of business.
Oh noes! Some bigots owned businesses that were rather dependent on queer patrons and tried to actively piss on their clientele in a completely bone-headed financial decision and ended up having their business fail because the owner was a self-destructive moron? What a terrible fate.
I was driven out of a job I loved for simply existing as I am. I didn’t share any thoughts about Christians being bigots. In fact, I treated homeschool religious groups exactly the same as any other class. And for that, my performance was ignored and I was bullied and harried and when I refused to quit, they stripped my hours and didn’t bother sending me a welcome back email for the new year.
So excuse me if I and the many thousands of other queer identified folks who have suffered the same have a little hard of a time feeling sorry for less than a dozen of morons and fuckwits who managed to torpedo their companies into the ground being complete fucking morons and wannabe martyrs.
Others have been harassed on-line, especially through facebook,
Oh no. Clearly no one non-white or non-Christian has ever been harassed on-line before. Bitch, I have full-bore stalkers. Call me when you receive your first simultaneous rape and death threat.
or had to spend time and money defending themselves in court.
That tends to be what happens when you break the law.
Hey, brainstorm, why don’t you try not breaking the law next time? It might go over a little better and involve fewer court fees.
Hebrews 10:34 describes one of the first types of persecution encountered by the early church as the “plundering” or confiscation of their property (Hebrews 10:34). The Roman Empire squeezed Christians economically. Now the United States, as a direct result of the rise of “gay rights”, is seeing just that kind of persecution.
And thank you for that wonderful demonstration of my earlier point about Holy Texts being stretched and molded to claim just about whatever point a bigoted and authoritarian fuckwit wants them to state.
Illustrative is the tone and tactics of those advocating “gay rights”.
True fact, you don’t deserve rights if you are ever cross or upset about oppression. Real true deserving oppressed groups never move beyond a polite cough and a vague gesture in the direction of the iron bootheel digging into their scrote.
In the past, champions of civil rights for oppressed groups, like Martin Luther King, genuinely sought the good of society as a whole. They were usually respectful of those they were seeking to change, gentle in tone, inclusive and winsome in their tactics, and lofty in their goals. One cannot listen to the eloquent rhetoric of the “I have a dream” speech and not be inspired by it. In the past, civil rights for all meant civility toward all.
I think somebody should take a moment to listen to pretty much any other MLK speech in existence.
I don’t think they’re going to like it very much.
Again, “gay rights” is different. Where’s the uniting leader?
Who’s your authoritarian leader that we can discredit and/or assassinate? We need to know**.
I mean, otherwise we might have to acknowledge that not everyone worships singular personality cults or let’s a single authority tell them how they live their lives. And that’s just too horrifying to even contemplate right now.
Where’s the civility?
Another true fact. Every rights movement before the queer rights movement was always heralded by their contemporary opponents as courteous and civil and were never ever demonized as half-crazed rabble-rousers who were so very unlike “real” “deserving” oppressed groups.
Instead, they’ve given us the near terrorist antics of ACT-UP,
ACT-UP? Yes, clearly they have strayed the line far too close to terrorism, what with only ever organizing protests and never engaging in violent actions despite being an organization formed by the desperation of being literally left for dead by an uncaring bigoted public who was viewing the AIDS epidemic as a “blessing” that was “solving the gay problem”.
Oh sure, the opponent numbers have actually committed regular terrorist actions, but a single ACT-UP member once broke a communion wafer so clearly Double Mecha Hitler.
the obscene rhetoric of Dan Savage attacking the Bible as ˜bull—-” – ironically at an anti-bullying conference – calling those who walked out of his tirade as “”pansy-a—”;
I’m sorry, that’s just too fucking precious to get pissy about. Oh poor, widdle babies, did the mean old Mr. Savage make you scared with his usage of curse words and belonging to a different faith. There, there, nookums, mommy will make it all better with an anti-gay bill or two.
the picture of angry homosexuals desecrating the Catholic Mass;
That’s ACT-UP again. You just counted ACT-UP twice.
Are you so hard up on “oppression” that you need to count events twice just to fill the space?
… no, stop answering that. It was rhetorical.
the insulting and often obscene language that moved Prof. Li-Ann Thio to call them “homofacists”.
We call you fascists, clearly that is proof that you are. Because why else would we call you that. Ipso facto motherfucker!
So. Yeah, from a list of 4 events, the only 4 events actually listed rather than vaguely alluded to, we have, Dan Savage used bad words, an example of your group of fascist bigots trying to pull an IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION, and a double-counted example of a single protestor breaking a wafer… in 1989.
You know, I had my doubts, but you’ve convinced me. These queer monsters need to be stopped.
Some of them troll the web-pages of Christian organizations, attacking and insulting any who dare profess to support those organizations. These are not the tactics of freedom fighters seeking to expand the blessings of justice. These are the tactics of oppressors who are using the cloak of freedom to impose its opposite on those with whom they disagree.
Well isn’t that a fine mess of IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION seeing as how every queer identified, liberal identified, atheist identified, or feminist identified blog on the internet can expect a never-ending flood of dedicated religious bigot trolls trying to disrupt conversations and just generally fling shit.
But please, do go on about the occasional sane person who stumbles on your houses of crazy and actually tries to engage you in some dialogue, ceasing either before or after you rather quickly ban them (and then going away, because they actually have a life beyond desperately needing the validation of people they claim to hate and feel superior to).
The reason for this disparity has to do with the nature of homosexuality itself.
Oooh, is it related to space radiation? Please say it’s related to space radiation!
Certainly some people likely feel a strong inclination toward that behavior. They deserve our compassion and support, especially if they are willing to do the hard work of trying to over-come those temptations.
I mean, all we’re asking is that you spend your life in the closet, constantly despising yourself for something you can’t change, resenting every boner or wet spot until you die unfulfilled and unloved because a bunch of bigots couldn’t handle a world where people like you exist and are just the same as anyone else.
I mean, isn’t that a fair price to pay for the vague promise of pie in the sky when you die?
But to be homosexual people – no matter the strength of their psychological inclinations – they still have to choose to engage in it.
Oh, of course. Like how one can be born black and struggle against that sinful abomination of a skin tone and treat themselves with cleansing chemicals to bleach their skin and make it holy and that is… okay, in the sense that they are forever a poor miserable wretch we look down upon.
But if one chooses to live a black lifestyle, say by being visibly black in a location it is not expected or wearing clothing or listening to music we retroactively decide is too “urban” then we are completely justified in gunning down your children in the streets.
Oh sorry, I think there was supposed to be a joke in there, but that’s actually pretty much how that actually works.
Unlike belonging to an ethnic group, people have to choose to be homosexual and they are responsible for that choice, no matter how strong their inclination toward it is.
Of course, I mean, clearly I choose to be trans* and have my entire world flip the fuck out from under me. Because of all the benefits like… uh… er… heh.
But seriously, two things pop into mind here:
1) Exactly how much of a dick is your God supposed to be here. I mean, in your little ideal universe setup here, you think that God is just sitting up on his throne, throwing this powerful, soul crushing, more powerful than prayer condition on people just so he can send his followers to smite them for failing to repress themselves and live miserable painful lives.
And you expect us to worship this God instead of finding a way to nuke this “Heaven” place from orbit?
2) I kind of expect this tactic of “it’s a choice” to see an even stronger revival as queer rights improve and it becomes easier for at least white middle class homosexuals to be themselves and out without issue or backlash.
When the rebuttal of “why would I choose to live a harder, more oppressed life if I could choose to be straight” is no longer applicable because we’ve made that much progress, it’ll be tempting for bigots to pretend that people are coin flip choosing this life.
Of course, that won’t do shit against the other great counter of “when exactly did you choose to be straight, Mr. Closet Case”. But then, I didn’t say it would be a smart tactic, just a more popular one.
They have to suppress the natural purposes of their body to do what many, if not most, people viscerally know is wrong.
Huh, and here I was thinking that it was my decision to stop suppressing the natural reality of my body and its visceral knowledge of what was wrong that lead me to acknowledging my transsexuality, but now I know better.
Thanks, delusional closet case!
That suppression of the inner voice of conscience then imperialistically seeks to silence outer voices of others – bakers, florists, Christian churches and web-pages, rational ethicists, anyone who dares to remind them of the choice they made.
Another true fact. Every time a queer person sees a straight coupling, they lose their shit like an angry gorilla, flipping over tables and stomping on Valentine’s candy boxes. A friend of mine made the mistake of inviting a gay friend to their straight wedding once… they never were able to get the blood off the walls.
Also, I’m not sure there is a way to read this and not hear the giant IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION where closeted self-hating queers try and destroy anything that could ever remind them that it was a choice to repress themselves in a marriage they despise instead of being true to themselves.
Hell, fuck the LGBT focus, that might as well be the national slogan for the conservative movement. I mean, look no further than the obsession over the Summer of Love. So many conservative squares, pissed and bitter that they missed out on “all the hippie chick pussy” of Woodstock taking it out on anything they see as even remotely reminding them of what they passed up.
It’s okay, bigots, no one fits in your goddamn boxes, so why don’t you fucking chill and be true to yourselves for once in your fucking life.
Hence “gay rights” can only extend at the cost of the freedom of others.
Christians in America, then, must awake. Their very liberty is at stake. The wheels of persecution are already in motion. Already they are being prohibited, in many states, from living their faith in the marketplace. Those wheels won’t stop grinding when they get to the doors of the church. We, the spiritual descendants of those who crossed an ocean so we could worship the Lord freely, are now seeing the dark clouds of oppression gathering over us. It’s time for “the people who know their God [to] stand firm and take action” (Daniel 11:32).
I mean, under such fascist commie oppressor alien invaders, the only solution is violence. We’re not oppressors smacking down anything that smacks of “difference”. We’re protecting ourselves against a menace to our very way of life and in defense of our freedoms against a threat that would eliminate us completely if we were to let them.
Oh, no, I wasn’t translating for you. I was translating for that nice KKK member from the late 19th century.
Honestly, you think you would have noticed by now that gay rights is completely different than civil rights.
‘Shorter’ concept created by Daniel Davies and perfected by Elton Beard. And we’re only going more obscure from here, folks. Hey, I’ll go back to mocking the “big names” when they learn a second fucking word. We are aware of all Internet traditions.™
*Fun fact: When I hit puberty, the dominant model of straight sexuality was so beaten into me, I ended up doing a comprehensive tour of all the porn of the internet, because, hey, I have to be attracted to something, right? So it isn’t like many of us of non-normative sexuality didn’t fucking try to be “normal” before we finally found the language that actually described us and the self-confidence to stop “trying” and just accept ourselves as we were.
**I mean, we used to think it was that Harvey Milk guy, but…