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		<title>By: anybodybutadamschiff</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3884.html/comment-page-1#comment-700443</link>
		<dc:creator>anybodybutadamschiff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve started a blog to un seat Adam Schiff..   I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a long shot.  people are mad and we are not going to take it anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve started a blog to un seat Adam Schiff..   I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a long shot.  people are mad and we are not going to take it anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas Anarchist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kansas Anarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That explains why Sandro Botticelli could &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.artcyclopedia.com/feature-2000-05-centaur.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;paint one&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That explains why Sandro Botticelli could <a href="http://www.artcyclopedia.com/feature-2000-05-centaur.html" rel="nofollow">paint one</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Major Woody</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3884.html/comment-page-1#comment-82206</link>
		<dc:creator>Major Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey mikefromtexas,

The folks you&#039;ll meet at Ye Olde Renaissance Festival and Faire, eh! It makes perfect sense to me, though, given all those centaurs still running around during the Renaissance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey mikefromtexas,</p>
<p>The folks you&#8217;ll meet at Ye Olde Renaissance Festival and Faire, eh! It makes perfect sense to me, though, given all those centaurs still running around during the Renaissance.</p>
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		<title>By: mikefromtexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikefromtexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve met that centaur dude. No kidding. He&#039;s a pretty decent fellow even though he&#039;s mostly a horses ass.He hangs out at the Texas Renaissance Festival near the Woodlands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve met that centaur dude. No kidding. He&#8217;s a pretty decent fellow even though he&#8217;s mostly a horses ass.He hangs out at the Texas Renaissance Festival near the Woodlands.</p>
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		<title>By: King John</title>
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		<dc:creator>King John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised there are no references to boytaurs in here.

No, I won&#039;t post a link to that.

And I wouldn&#039;t Google it at work if I were you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised there are no references to boytaurs in here.</p>
<p>No, I won&#8217;t post a link to that.</p>
<p>And I wouldn&#8217;t Google it at work if I were you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 02:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I seeing things, or does that centaur have a large centaur penis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I seeing things, or does that centaur have a large centaur penis?</p>
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		<title>By: sysprog</title>
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		<dc:creator>sysprog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And anyway, without or without the Schiff-Flake amendment, this is a truly awful bill.  The only U.S. Senator who is fighting for the Magna Carta is Arlen Specter (yes, on this issue, Specter&#039;s the good guy, even though he&#039;s doing bad stuff elsewhere.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And anyway, without or without the Schiff-Flake amendment, this is a truly awful bill.  The only U.S. Senator who is fighting for the Magna Carta is Arlen Specter (yes, on this issue, Specter&#8217;s the good guy, even though he&#8217;s doing bad stuff elsewhere.)</p>
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		<title>By: UniteOrGoodnite</title>
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		<dc:creator>UniteOrGoodnite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should have been there ... why make it easy for the ReThugs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should have been there &#8230; why make it easy for the ReThugs?</p>
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		<title>By: sysprog</title>
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		<dc:creator>sysprog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;DO THE MATH!&lt;/b&gt;  There were 4 members absent from the amendment vote, 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats.  So if the 2 Democrats had rushed back in time, the chairman would have rounded up the 2 missing Republicans, &lt;b&gt;and the amendment still would have failed.&lt;/b&gt;

TPM Muckraker is a usually reliable source but in this case they were wrong (because they took the story from the WSJ and the WSJ was wrong).

Myself, I saw the TPM Muckraker story and the WSJ story and I went ballistic but then I DID THE MATH and I realized &lt;b&gt;they were wrong.&lt;/b&gt;

TPM Muckraker sort of corrected themselves by posting a link to an article in &quot;The Hill&quot; that said what really happened, but TPM Muckraker should have posted a big fat retraction and a mea culpa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>DO THE MATH!</b>  There were 4 members absent from the amendment vote, 2 Republicans and 2 Democrats.  So if the 2 Democrats had rushed back in time, the chairman would have rounded up the 2 missing Republicans, <b>and the amendment still would have failed.</b></p>
<p>TPM Muckraker is a usually reliable source but in this case they were wrong (because they took the story from the WSJ and the WSJ was wrong).</p>
<p>Myself, I saw the TPM Muckraker story and the WSJ story and I went ballistic but then I DID THE MATH and I realized <b>they were wrong.</b></p>
<p>TPM Muckraker sort of corrected themselves by posting a link to an article in &#8220;The Hill&#8221; that said what really happened, but TPM Muckraker should have posted a big fat retraction and a mea culpa.</p>
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		<title>By: King John</title>
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		<dc:creator>King John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 22:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Magna Carta sucks, dude.</description>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ginger,

I don&#039;t know about this particular vote, but it would be interesting to see which came first on the schedule.

The press conference was to point out issues with the &quot;donut hole&quot; problem in Medicare benefits, which pundits and admin mouthpieces are now saying doesn&#039;t exist. So the Dems have to choose, I guess: let the lying liars dominate the media with their lies (and have people complain that the Dems don&#039;t say anything against the lies), or let the slimy sleazeballs sideline democracy itself with their cheating (and have people complain that the Dems don&#039;t stand up to the cheaters in committee).

It&#039;s a brilliant strategy by the Republicans, really: do so much slimy shit that no one can possibly keep up with it all, and then slam their opponents for not stopping that portion that gets through. A conscientious person (of any party) on Capitol Hill right now probably feels like a lone pre-school teacher in a room with 30 toddlers on speed: you can only minimize the damage as best you can and hope no one breaks their arm while you&#039;re distracted tyring to keep the others from dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about this particular vote, but it would be interesting to see which came first on the schedule.</p>
<p>The press conference was to point out issues with the &#8220;donut hole&#8221; problem in Medicare benefits, which pundits and admin mouthpieces are now saying doesn&#8217;t exist. So the Dems have to choose, I guess: let the lying liars dominate the media with their lies (and have people complain that the Dems don&#8217;t say anything against the lies), or let the slimy sleazeballs sideline democracy itself with their cheating (and have people complain that the Dems don&#8217;t stand up to the cheaters in committee).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a brilliant strategy by the Republicans, really: do so much slimy shit that no one can possibly keep up with it all, and then slam their opponents for not stopping that portion that gets through. A conscientious person (of any party) on Capitol Hill right now probably feels like a lone pre-school teacher in a room with 30 toddlers on speed: you can only minimize the damage as best you can and hope no one breaks their arm while you&#8217;re distracted tyring to keep the others from dying.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is how I feel about it.

http://sdrobbie.blogspot.com/2006/09/inspired-by-my-raiders-pride-part-deux.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how I feel about it.</p>
<p><a href="http://sdrobbie.blogspot.com/2006/09/inspired-by-my-raiders-pride-part-deux.html" rel="nofollow">http://sdrobbie.blogspot.com/2006/09/inspired-by-my-raiders-pride-part-deux.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: mmm...lemonheads</title>
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		<dc:creator>mmm...lemonheads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 20:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I engaged in a robust debate regarding these issues at Patterico&#039;s Zany House of Bed-Wetting Wingnuts.  You can guess how that turned out.  
I&#039;m convinced that torture to them is only a concept; a means to an end, and due process is quaint when the baddies are always at their door (or so they seem to believe).  The Culture of Fear has inflicted a substantial, though thankfully not a majority of this nation&#039;s populace,  and I fear it may take decades of undoing.  
And the fact is Gary has no grasp of history, human rights and common sense.
I could really use a pony right now, but the Centaur will do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I engaged in a robust debate regarding these issues at Patterico&#8217;s Zany House of Bed-Wetting Wingnuts.  You can guess how that turned out.<br />
I&#8217;m convinced that torture to them is only a concept; a means to an end, and due process is quaint when the baddies are always at their door (or so they seem to believe).  The Culture of Fear has inflicted a substantial, though thankfully not a majority of this nation&#8217;s populace,  and I fear it may take decades of undoing.<br />
And the fact is Gary has no grasp of history, human rights and common sense.<br />
I could really use a pony right now, but the Centaur will do.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairman Meow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chairman Meow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go fuck yourself, Sensible Centaur!</description>
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		<title>By: Major Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Major Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what I ilke about Senator Centaur? He&#039;s got good old-fashioned horse-sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I ilke about Senator Centaur? He&#8217;s got good old-fashioned horse-sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginger Yellow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ginger Yellow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 17:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW, the Republican leadership in Congress has been especially nasty about violating procedures, holding votes open long past the rules, and removing all the checks the minority party used to have on legislation and appointment confirmations. They have even resorted to blackmailing their own party members on the floor of the chamber.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Very true. All the more reason not to schedule a press conference in the middle of one of the most important committee sessions in the history of our nation. Fucking idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BTW, the Republican leadership in Congress has been especially nasty about violating procedures, holding votes open long past the rules, and removing all the checks the minority party used to have on legislation and appointment confirmations. They have even resorted to blackmailing their own party members on the floor of the chamber.</p></blockquote>
<p>Very true. All the more reason not to schedule a press conference in the middle of one of the most important committee sessions in the history of our nation. Fucking idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: haruhara haruko</title>
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		<dc:creator>haruhara haruko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.

I never knew John Kruk was a centaur. 

That explains his appetite for hay, but opens so many other questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.</p>
<p>I never knew John Kruk was a centaur. </p>
<p>That explains his appetite for hay, but opens so many other questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Sorry about that--this is a topic I don&#039;t seem to have a sense of humor on. I&#039;ll be good now.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Sorry about that&#8211;this is a topic I don&#8217;t seem to have a sense of humor on. I&#8217;ll be good now.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Houghton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Houghton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W as King John?  Hmmm...yes, that might work well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W as King John?  Hmmm&#8230;yes, that might work well.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 14:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

Extreme liberalism?

Habeas Corpus was first codified in the Magna Carta, in 1215 CE, during the &quot;Dark Ages&quot;. The concepts of the rights enshrined in habeas corpus were greatly expanded in the Constitution (remember that old thing?), with the addition of protection against search and seisure, freedom of expression, and the right to  carry arms. 

This bill eliminates habeas corpus. Let me say that again:

THIS BILL ELIMINATES A RIGHT THAT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED SINCE 1215. 

How can voting to maintain a section of the fucking Magna Carta be considered &quot;liberal&quot;? How much more &quot;conservative&quot; can you get than voting to &quot;conserve&quot; a law passed during the fucking Dark Ages?

Go establish your cult of divine kingship somewhere else, Gary, and leave my country the fuck alone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary,</p>
<p>Extreme liberalism?</p>
<p>Habeas Corpus was first codified in the Magna Carta, in 1215 CE, during the &#8220;Dark Ages&#8221;. The concepts of the rights enshrined in habeas corpus were greatly expanded in the Constitution (remember that old thing?), with the addition of protection against search and seisure, freedom of expression, and the right to  carry arms. </p>
<p>This bill eliminates habeas corpus. Let me say that again:</p>
<p>THIS BILL ELIMINATES A RIGHT THAT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED SINCE 1215. </p>
<p>How can voting to maintain a section of the fucking Magna Carta be considered &#8220;liberal&#8221;? How much more &#8220;conservative&#8221; can you get than voting to &#8220;conserve&#8221; a law passed during the fucking Dark Ages?</p>
<p>Go establish your cult of divine kingship somewhere else, Gary, and leave my country the fuck alone!</p>
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