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Yglesiatlas Shrugged




Posted at 16:54 by Tintin


ABOVE: Matthew Yglesias

Shorter Matthew Yglesias
Miles-Long Gasoline Lines In New Jersey Show The Case For “Price Gouging”

  • Long gas lines in New Jersey prove that scarce resources should be allocated solely to the rich.

The more I thought about it, the more I wanted to say more about Mattie’s idiotic genuflection before the great god of the free market or, more particularly, the great god of the free market as understood by a dim-witted freshman at a junior college in Georgia. His argument here is that higher prices cause people to allocate resources sensibly. Now, assuming that everyone had a fair amount of resources to juggle, this has some appeal. You know, as in “Gee, should I spend $1,000 on a tank of gas or use that money instead to save for a down payment on an Aston Martin? Well, since I have to go to my job as a hedge fund manager to afford the Aston, I’ll spend it on the gas.” For others, who may be juggling decisions between powdered milk and fresh fruit, this isn’t an option so much. What Mattie doesn’t understand is that waiting in line also entails a cost that makes people, rich and poor, allocate resources sensibly. Waiting in line is something everyone can do no matter how much they have in their bank account. What Mattie’s argument ultimately reduces to, then, is this:

Alternate Shorter Matthew Yglesias
Miles-Long Gasoline Lines In New Jersey Show The Case For “Price Gouging”

  • Wealthy people should not have to wait in line along with the peasants.

‘Shorter’ concept created by Daniel Davies and perfected by Elton Beard. We are aware of all Internet traditions.™


667 Comments »

  1. tsam said,

    November 2, 2012 at 16:59

    FIRST and yah, that’s really what the pig says.

  2. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:04

    Pizza libel!

  3. tsam said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:11

    Even shorter: FUCK THE POOR!

    See, if we ration scarce resources fairly, it screws everything up for people who drive Hummers and giant trucks. You know, REAL Americans.

  4. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:17

    I got as far as this wonderful typo:

    … I got too primary negative reactions.

    How primary were they? TOO primary!

  5. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:17

    This is when animated gifs come in handy.

  6. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:18

    D’oh!

    http://houseofsubstance.blogspot.com/2012/01/for-pinko-punko.html

  7. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:22

    http://houseofsubstance.blogspot.com/2012/01/for-pinko-punko.html

    Man, I can’t believe I missed the dancing drag-n-drop M.Y.-Hammertime thread with bonus bronies. That’s one for the ages.

  8. kg said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:23

    He’s right! Everyone knows two is a prime(ary) number.

  9. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:26

    And it’s not like his magical pony land rationing for the wealthy only scheme would even work. I mean really, this is the scenario:

    A natural disaster hits. Supplies of basic necessities become scarce, thus retailers of said goods jack up prices exorbitantly. In neoliberal wonderland this means that folks will now only take the bare minimum that they need. During a crisis/disaster. Also, since they are only taking the bare minimum, line-ups will be shorter. Also because, no one is going to complain about $1,000 a gallon gas and will instead efficiently and compliantly take the bare minimum amount they need to get by and then move on. Causing NO delays. Also, everybody knows beforehand exactly what the gouged prices are going to jump to and only line up for the things they need. Also, no one at the front of the line is going to grab all the goods and hoard them to unload that at even gougier prices because MARKETS! Also, like anyone would care about spoilage in the case where the last of the goods to go does so at several orders of magnitude higher prices.

    I mean really – he is there RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Does he honestly believe that merchants being allowed to price gouge, to prey on the victims of disaster, does he actually think that will make things GO SMOOTHER?!?!??!

  10. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:31

    Also consider his other argument – there’s no financial incentive for profiteers to figure out ways of getting disaster-marked-up-goods to afflicted areas. Hey dipwad, FEATURE NOT A BUG. The reason it’s tough to get stuff into disaster areas is BECAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING DISASTER AREAS. Let me put it into neo-liberal so that BM Matt can understand – there are some “externalities” associated with delivery of goods to these areas. Suddenly incentivizing every vulture eager to profiteer on a one-off to rush to the site so they can hawk bottles of water at a hundred bucks a pop – how the hell is that supposed to help?

  11. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:32

    We get this same libertarian shit every time there’s a natural disaster. We’re told that doubling the price of batteries, bleach and every other commodity that suddenly becomes a necessity is some sort of free-market sacrament. I’d love to make these assholes stand for days on end in lines waiting for those things. One one foot. While singing…whatever the libertarian equivalent of the “Internationale” is.

  12. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:34

    You can also see that the combination of shortage and underpricing seems to be leading people to overconsume when they do get to the front of the line.

    This could also be stopped by limiting per person consumption.

  13. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:38

    Tigris wants gas death panels. Sarah Palin haz a sad.

  14. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:43

    Also, too: The news I saw this morning showed a bunch of ebil gubmint thugs (aka “cops”) helping the private gas station owners by managing the lines of cars and preventing line jumping. Who do these people think they are? Why are they stealing (at gunpoint no less!) the ability for free-market mercenaries (sorry “contractors”) to setup checkpoints where they can properly accept bribes for easier access to the front of the line? The glorious FREE MARKET DEMANDS IT! ALL HAIL THE FREE MARKET!

  15. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:49

    Oh, and please continue funding a military presence in the Middle East so we can keep that oil flowing.

  16. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:50

    Suddenly incentivizing every vulture eager to profiteer on a one-off to rush to the site so they can hawk bottles of water at a hundred bucks a pop – how the hell is that supposed to help?

    It will totally help the stockholders of Bechtel, Halliburton, whatever Blackwater is calling itself these days, you name it. Just about any sleazy government services contracting company full of former military washouts wannabees and never-weres, will ride in on a flood of poorly maintained rescue equipment, making things worse when they get stuck or crash and need to get rescued themselves. The ones that make it to citizens needing rescue won’t lift a finger until the poor bastards sign over their life savings for a baloney sandwich, watery coffee and a ride to a k-mart tent in a public park. We will bring Haiti-level shock doctrine disaster captialism home. Say hello to permanent American refugees if that happens.

  17. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:55

    Silly N__B is silly: don’t need no steenkin’ death panels for fossil fuels, they’re already dead.

  18. vacuumslayer said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:58

    Am I the only person who assumes that if some owns a Hummer that that person is an asshole? I mean, come on. vacuumslayer approve this message.

  19. kg said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:09

    thanks vs I just spent 5 minutes snorting over that FUH2 site.

  20. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:09

    Am I the only person who assumes that if some owns a Hummer that that person is an asshole?

    Yes – and a stupid one at that.

    A Hummer H2 is just a Chevy Tahoe with a bunch of cheap plastic glued to it and a much larger price tag.

  21. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:10

    Also consider his other argument

    No. I’m not going to read that crap. I’m getting more dimwitted every day all by myself, reading Yglesiatlas would do me in.

    Also FYWP you stupid fuck.

  22. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:11

    oh, my garsh…so many things rolling around in my noggin right now…a person should have a blog, dontcha think?

    from the last thread: paul ryan is an entire toolshed…no, he’s actually a fucking tool warehouse…good lord, and people think he’s NICE? wtf?!?! and really, what kind of standards do they have for dishwashing in wisconsin, cuz paul, yer doing it wrong…jesus christ, could they at least put more than a nano-second of prep time into that photo op?

    also, too…i haz hope! last night at work, my uberconservativemissourisynodmostlydouchebaggy friend’s hunting buddy was out with his son…they sat at the bar and ate supper and i overheard the son who is in his mid-twenties talking about romney and how he likes that he’s a good, decent, devout family man, made most of his own money but isn’t really sure that mittens’ plan to miraculously get the good ol us of a ‘back on track’ would work…so after a bit, i asked him if i could ask him a question: if mittens weren’t mormon, would we have any idea at all if he was such a devout man? of course, i was also itching to ask him what the hell being devout has to do with anything, but i’ve been trying to grow up and not be confrontational. he and his dad agreed that if he weren’t a mormon, we prolly wouldn’t even know or remember really what denomination he was…all this led to a bombshell that i still am having difficulty believing…

    when you hang with uberconservative buddy, you are pretty much expected to believe exactly the same things he does because otherwise you are a fucking liberal commie who drank the kool-aid…but this guy, who i refer to as ‘captain’ for lame ass reasons not pertinent here, actually VOTED AGAINST THE MARRIAGE AMENDMENT…i thought his kid’s jaw was going to literally drop off into his plate of shrimp…my gob is still smacked, i tell ya…

  23. Marion in Savannah said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:14

    Am I the only person who assumes that if some owns a Hummer that that person is an asshole?

    Oh, HELL no! Love that site…

    To drive a Hummer is to broadcast to the world that you have a) more money than brains, and b) a teeny weeny little wingwang. (Has anyone ever seen a woman driving one of those things?)

  24. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:14

    Am I the only person who assumes that if some owns a Hummer that that person is an asshole?

    Yes – and a stupid one at that.

    I have never been able not to snicker when I see one of those things. Of all the ridiculous things to blow money on, some guys had to buy a vehicle that’s no longer in production because it’s so absurdly wasteful. I’m trying to think of another vehicle that got snuffed just because it burned excess gas for no good reason, and I can’t come up with one.

  25. jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:18

    That title was my too primary LOL upon returning home from work.
    Bloody good show, Tintin! Keep the Aspidistra flying & all that cal, eh wot?

    Some people’s version of a “Free Market” sure smells an awful lot like a Black Market to me – & that Russian Roulette shark-tank NEVER has any problems with supply & demand, amirite? Wonder if the GOP will be touting the manifold benefits of a “Trickle-Down Corporate Yakuza” economic solution to America’s fiscal colic by 2016. Yeah, the ancient & venerable “whatever the rubes can be bled for” pricing system is what’s made Somalia the global powerhouse it is today.

    Odd that McArdle, Yglesias et al seem so mysteriously reticent to move there & LIVE TEH DREAM.

  26. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:22

    Has anyone ever seen a woman driving one of those things?

    Sadly, yes. Typically they have giant vinyl “Cowgirl Up!” stickers plastered on the rear window. Bonus confederate flag is worth an extra couple points on the stupid scale.

  27. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:29

    What I don’t get about Hummer-love is they are so butt-ugly. I mean, sure, they get horrible gas mileage but there are vehicles I would drive that get bad mileage, they just happen to be either awesome or useful, neither of which you can say about the rolling road box.

  28. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:31

    I… have a terrible secret. I think the regular (H1) hummers were neat. Wildy impractical for driving on roads, but cooler than some absurdly jacked up monster truck. H2s are silly, H3s were getting better, still tonka truck styling but less absurd. I would drive one, for a camping vacation. And I kept thinking that with every generation getting smaller, by H5 or so, GM might have had their own version of a Jeep Wrangler, which is to say a practically sized and fun vehicle capable of going off road.

  29. Marion in Savannah said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:35

    One of the things that still makes Mr. Marion in Savannah and me laugh (out loud too, also) was the time we were following a Hummer into the hospital where I work. There are a series of 3 speed bumps designed to, you know, SLOW YOU DOWN before you get to the hospital building, parking garages, etc. Did the Hummer slow down? Hell, no. Asshole had a HUMMER, fergawdsake and didn’t need to heed no shit like speed bumps. That fucker went airborne, and came down with a mighty thud. It looked like the asshole cracked his head on the roof. From what I understand the seats are made out of sacks of cement, so I guess his landing was comfy too. Asshole CREPT over the next 2 speed bumps, with us howling in the car behind him.

  30. andy axel said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:35

    The jump for “leading people to overconsume” takes you to a Twitter pic of people standing in line with plastic jerry cans. This is “overconsumption?” I call it “not wanting to stand in line for another couple of hours in a few days once all the campstove gas is used up.”

    I am left to wonder if there isn’t maybe some panic buying going on… Nashville TN had a gas panic a few years ago when whispers of a shortage created a metro-wide supply crash. But with all of the talk of service outages lasting for god knows how long, you can hardly fault people for stocking up on necessities like, oh, FUEL.

  31. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:39

    Back in the day a Ford Bronco or Chevy Blazer were similar to a Jeep Wrangler. The Bronco especially was pretty close in size to a Jeep. They had real off road capability.

    They were rugged, utilitarian vehicles that were mostly driven by hunters.

    This was before they became tarted pseudo station wagons useful only for hauling kids to soccer practice.

    Oh, except real station wagons are actually useful. Mrs. Kong drives an Audi A6 wagon.

  32. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:41

    My montorematic friend is right. The original Hummers _were_ neat. They were bare-bones totally non-lux ATVs that you could drive on the roads. Then Ahnold and the rest made a market for luxo Hummers that never saw an unpaved road much less got driven where there was no road at all.

    My brother snorted loudly at the idea of buying a hummer. His Pinzgauer is pretty neat.

  33. gocart mozart said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:41

    I LOL’d

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/41129_Montgomery_Burns_Endorses_Mitt_Romney

  34. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:45

    Oops. FYipad. I was referring to the commenter formerly known as 77South (I think, that’s right)

  35. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:50

    And I kept thinking that with every generation getting smaller, by H5 or so, GM might have had their own version of a Jeep Wrangler, which is to say a practically sized and fun vehicle capable of going off road.

    A 4WD Toyota pickup (extra cab if you need a back seat) would probably fit that bill pretty well. I had an ’80s model and that thing was bulletproof (and Top Gear tried, and failed, to kill one). Did great in horrible conditions, snow, mud, off road, etc.

    Actually, I used to take my old Subaru wagon off road in areas that most H2/H3 drivers would shit their pants in fear of. It had a manual trans with a locking center differential and would damn near climb trees. The only thing the Toyota had that was better was more ground clearance and a two-speed high/low transfer case. And some moar horsepowers.

  36. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:50

    So, the fact that there’s long lines after a major hurricane for gas is not evidence that America is now a Soviet dystopia. Maybe incentives for infrastructure changes should be made in the future, but I don’t think we need to place entire swaths of distressed humanity in a disaster area to the mercy of a unregulated, totally free market….a black market, essentially, with all the perils that entails.

    that’s my favorite comment from MY’s idiotic non-whingeworthy whinge-fest…these people are just plain flat out assholes…also, everything dkw said…

    also, hummer/*celebrity* story…brock lesnar used to frequent the supper club i bartend at…totally annoying because he DID make us change the channel so he could watch himself rassle on the teevee…i am sure you will all be amazed that brock drove a hummer…and he would regularly drive through the ditch and over our lawn area to get into the parking lot instead of using the drive way like a normal person…the first time he did it, i happened to be looking out the window and was like, ‘holy shit! wtf?!?’…he came in LOLing his ass off…

  37. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:52

    Chevy Blazer were similar to a Jeep Wrangler. The Bronco especially was pretty close in size to a Jeep. They had real off road capability.

    oh, the trouble we used to get up to in my first boyfriend evar’s blazer…

    Oh, except real station wagons are actually useful. Mrs. Kong drives an Audi A6 wagon.

    gee whiz, mrs. kong gets all the cool stuff…

  38. D Johnston said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:53

    Am I the only person who assumes that if some owns a Hummer that that person is an asshole?

    To drive a Hummer is to broadcast to the world that you have a) more money than brains, and b) a teeny weeny little wingwang. (Has anyone ever seen a woman driving one of those things?)

    Actually, my aunt used to own one – an H2, one of those ridiculous assault vehicles that looked like it should have been carting around a squad of GIs.

    She told her kids that my dad was going to put grandma in a home, probably because she was afraid that they liked him more than her. Another time, right before I left the country for work, she told a bunch of people I knew that I’d gotten some girl pregnant and that was the real reason I was leaving. Then, at my grandpa’s funeral, she refused to let her family spend any time with my father or uncle and then abruptly vanished before the interment.

    So as to vacuumslayer’s question…I’m going to have to agree.

  39. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:55

    Gasp! you have revealed my secret identity! the horror! No, seriously I realized you were replying to me.

    I used to be a ski instructor, and Ullr willing,when my life settles down, I will be one again. Or a ski patroller, in any case, I like vehicles that don’t get stuck in the snow. I also respect station wagons. I totally like the Subaru Impreza WRX wagon for instance.

  40. CRA said,

    November 2, 2012 at 18:58

    It strikes me as funny that GM or whatever tried to sell the Hummer brand to a Chinese company, but the deal fell through, I assume because even nouveau rich Chinese douchebags cannot be counted on to buy a Hummer these days.

  41. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:02

    i really thing obummer should change his name to bronco bama…and i think this little kid pretty much sums up all of america right now…except for mittens..

  42. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:02

    gee whiz, mrs. kong gets all the cool stuff…

    It’s a 2003. I don’t buy these things new. It is a pretty nice car, however.

    I had her test drive a Cadillac CTS wagon a while back and she said “I’m sorry but I don’t like it. I like mine better.”

    I said “Don’t be sorry! You just saved me $30,000!!! You just keep liking your car as long as you like.”

  43. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:02

    It strikes me as funny that GM or whatever tried to sell the Hummer brand to a Chinese company, but the deal fell through, I assume because even nouveau rich Chinese douchebags cannot be counted on to buy a Hummer these days.

    oh…so that’s why bronco bama sold gm to the italians…it all makes sense now!

  44. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:06

    It’s a 2003. I don’t buy these things new. It is a pretty nice car, however.

    one of the things i miss about my dad the most…he loved getting a deal on stuff like that and loved to fix em up…his brother owned a big salvage yard in st. paul, so he got some neat stuff…some of hubbkf’s best memories are pulling the engine on the ’79 saab turbo my daddy bought me…but admittedly by the third time he had to dis-assemble and re-assemble that vehicle, he wasn’t having THAT much fun…although he no longer needed the numbered post-its anymore…

  45. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:06

    The A6 wagon is a wonderful thing. About the only thing better is the Audi Allroad. Seems you never see those things on the used car market.

  46. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:06

    I totally like the Subaru Impreza WRX wagon for instance.

    The new Impreza hatchbacks are super, I just wish the WRX got better mileage. The BRZ would be my choice, but definitely not a great snow car.

  47. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:07

    should have said some of hubbkf’s best memories of my dad…i think we all know what his really best memories are…

  48. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:08

    i think the windstar is a cool ride…

  49. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:10

    Seems you never see those things on the used car market.

    That’s the problem. I’d like to get her a newer one, maybe a 2006-2008, but they’re hard to come by. They either have a lot of miles on them or they want a lot of money.

  50. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:12

    i think the windstar is a cool ride…

    I had a Chrysler minivan as a rental a while back. It was great. Roomy, good gas mileage and completely invisible to state troopers.

  51. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:13

    Just went out with Mini__B. National Guard helicopters are making regular flights to help the people really fucked in Hoboken and I asked myself “Self, why not make the Guard available first to those who pay for first class service?”

  52. a zillion libertarians like this said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:20

    “Self, why not make the Guard available first to those who pay for first class service?”

  53. a zillion libertarians like this said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:21

    “Self, why not make the Guard available first to those who pay for first class service?”

    we like the cut of your jib!

  54. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:22

    ha, ha…apparently i shouldn’t attempt teh funneh with the nym changing…but i didn’t tagfail, so there’s that…

  55. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:30

    Self, why not make the Guard available first to those who pay for first class service?”

    No, see, you’re not taking it far enough. We need to entirely replace the lame and totally useless “National Guard” with Blackwater or Xe or whatevertherfuck it’s called now. Only when the entire thing is a private enterprise will the Gawds Of The Sublime And Magical Free Market (all hail!) be placated.

  56. Barney said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:34

    A true Galtian Job Creator would pay someone minimum wage to wait in line for them.

  57. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:39

    And I kept thinking that with every generation getting smaller, by H5 or so, GM might have had their own version of a Jeep Wrangler, which is to say a practically sized and fun vehicle capable of going off road.

    One last item on the manly off road car thing: Sometimes Jeep owners are idiots also too. [/blahgwhore]

  58. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:40

    A true Galtian Job Creator would pay someone minimum wage to wait in line for them.

    A true Galtian Jerb Creator would scoff at the evil concept of “minimum wage” and have people fight to the death for the right to earn a scrap of rotten food for waiting in line for them.

  59. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:48

    Galt invented a perpetual motion machine that runs on static electricity in the air, gas is for moocher losers.

  60. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:53

    A true Galtian Jerb Creator would scoff at the evil concept of “minimum wage” and have people fight to the death for the right to earn a scrap of rotten food for waiting in line for them.

    pt 2 of ‘the man who voted no and told me about it at dinner’:
    hates unions and doesn’t think we need them any longer…his son and i were like, ‘um, yeah…it’s nice to THINK that we don’t need unions any longer, but what do you think would happen if we didn’t have them?’ and he was, ‘oh, that kind of abuse wouldn’t happen any more, modern times, blah, blah blah…’ and we’re like, ‘um, have you met man-kind?’ and he’s all, ‘oh, the world isn’t like that any more…people are decent, blah blah blah…’ and we’re like, ‘um, have you met and experienced man-kind?’

    it really didn’t surprise me since he thinks mittens is an alright dude and good businessman…

    also, too…guess who is inordinately overly excited over the pending ‘les mis’ production starring hugh jackman?!?!?

  61. CRA said,

    November 2, 2012 at 19:56

    “… and i think this little kid pretty much sums up all of america right now … except for mittens …”

    Oh the wingnuts are sick of Obama the way they’re sick of Clinton. Fantasy Obama, like Clinton, will be a favorite plaything until the day they die. But yeah, Mitt is not at all sick of Mitt and I’m not sure he’s tired of battling strawmen either. Ryan sure isn’t. Maybe after Mitt loses he can take a few years off to order people around. I bet that’d invigorate him. CEO stuff, a better bubble, sycophants and nothing but.

  62. tsam said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:03

    Same sort of thinking that makes dumbasses think that jacking up the price of gas will reduce usage. It does, but it also fucks the poor HARDCORE. The poor get to choose between eating and going to work to earn money for food and gas. That’s why federal mileage mandates, lower speed limits, and federal mandates on revising and renewing technology are the ONLY way to solve the fossil fuel problem.

  63. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:06

    also, too…guess who is inordinately overly excited over the pending ‘les mis’ production starring hugh jackman?!?!?

    aaaand that would be me…i am listening to soundtrack right now…

  64. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:07

    CEO stuff, a better bubble, sycophants and nothing but

    He really lost interest in actually running Mass loooooong before his term was up, so I don’t understand why he’s running any more than I understood Palin running for VP or George W running for reelection. I mean HOLY CRAP, peeps, you SO OBVIOUSLY hated government executive power when you had it, why are you trying to get back into it?

  65. Gary Ruppert said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:13

    The fact is, liberals….

    Austrian economics. Look it up and learn, or shut up about your class warfare lazy ethics.

  66. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:13

    Austrian? That sounds furrin to me.

  67. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:14

    you SO OBVIOUSLY hated government executive power when you had it, why are you trying to get back into it?

    i think it has something to do with his overabundance of manly man inducing man fluids…

  68. jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:14

    Humvees?

    Face it, fellas: a forehead tattoo reading “I HAVE SERIOUS MOMMY ISSUES” would be much cheaper.

    “Let’s give every wheel its very own suspension system” = proof positive that there are seriously brute cold wake-&-bake permastoners aplenty squirrelled away in the Pentagon’s R&D salt-mines. Soon – but nowhere bloody near soon enough – to join its cultural kin: the Edsel, the Gremlin, the Pinto & the Corvair. Pat Tillman was smoked right before he could ship out because of a fucking busted-ass Hummer. Nuff said.

  69. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:16

    I kind of like Edsels, but then I have a Desoto.

  70. CRA said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:19

    “He really lost interest in actually running Mass loooooong before his term was up, so I don’t understand why he’s running any more than I understood Palin running for VP or George W running for reelection. I mean HOLY CRAP, peeps, you SO OBVIOUSLY hated government executive power when you had it, why are you trying to get back into it?”–Tigris

    When he says he’s doing us a favor, I think he means it. Plus as much as he hates democratic govt. and politicking (as opposed to being CEO/dictator), I think the idea of wielding that much power makes up for the unpleasantness. So he’s running.

  71. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:19

    Austrian economics. Look it up and learn, or shut up about your class warfare lazy ethics.

    There’s only so much money to be made with Lipizzaners and Sacher Torte. Aaaand now I want Mozart Kugeln. Verdammt.

  72. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:21

    I think the idea of wielding that much power makes up for the unpleasantness.

    I suppose also because he knows where the real money is to be made.

  73. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:23

    Same sort of thinking that makes dumbasses think that jacking up the price of gas will reduce usage. It does, but it also fucks the poor HARDCORE. The poor get to choose between eating and going to work to earn money for food and gas.

    The problem is that the price is still too low, giving the poor a choice. If gas were emergency-priced at $1000/gal, the poor would give up on it.

    tsam, why is that forehead vein throbbing like that?

  74. Pryme said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:29

    a forehead tattoo reading “I HAVE SERIOUS MOMMY ISSUES” would be much cheaper.

    True. If only there were signs for the fairer sex as well.

  75. tsam said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:30

    tsam, why is that forehead vein throbbing like that?

    BECAUSE I HATE STUFF!

  76. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:30

    We’d need to have a decent mass-transit system.

    If you’re going to make it cost-prohibitive for people to drive, there needs to be an alternative.

  77. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:34

    If you’re going to make it cost-prohibitive for people to drive, there needs to be an alternative.

    My $1000 suggestion was made in the persona of a Galtite. In reality, I agree with the idea of price and quantity controls under the current circumstances.

    But we need decent mass transit everywhere in the country anyway.

  78. Pryme said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:34

    Also: our future president has a word for the people.

  79. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:34

    If only there were signs for the fairer sex as well.

    I was in Memphis and I saw a rather creepy billboard from some church advertising “Daddy and Daughter Date Night”. Eeeeeeeewwwwww!

    Probably some variation on a “Purity Ball”.

  80. tsam said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:35

    That’s where federal mandates and federal grants for the specific and sole purpose of developing a modern transit system are required. Seems like there was a time in this country when that really wouldn’t have been questioned–like when we built an interstate highway system. Now the idea of doing anything that serves anyone besides rich assholes isn’t even discussed, let alone implemented. But hell, life’s not fair, right? Let’s just keep it that way and watch poor right wingers suffer under the weight of their own stupidity.

  81. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:36

    “Let’s give every wheel its very own suspension system” = proof positive that there are seriously brute cold wake-&-bake permastoners aplenty squirrelled away in the Pentagon’s R&D salt-mines

    Serious question, asked out of genuine ignorance: What’s so bad about independent suspension?

  82. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:44

    What’s so bad about independent suspension?

    Speaking only for myself, contact sports go better with a single cup that cradles both testicles.

  83. Pinko Punko said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:44

    Tintin,

    Remind me to e-mail you some Yglesias P-shops we have. Was John Stossel wanking behind the teleporter when Yglesias tested it out??????

  84. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:45

    But we need decent mass transit everywhere in the country anyway.

    man you liberalcommiesocialists make me sick! don’t you know that mass transit would complete the herd mentality that obummer so, so desperately craves for this once great nation of ours? don’t your realize that liberty is the right to drive hummers and wave our guns out it’s tinted windows…i mean, really WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!

    i for one would LOVE LOVE LOVE a mass transit system out here in the sticks…or that all our towns weren’t spaced 6-8 miles apart…it’s appalling how much gasoline we use here…and in farm/cowboy country, ya gots to drive a big truck…

  85. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:51

    I mean HOLY CRAP, peeps, you SO OBVIOUSLY hated government executive power when you had it, why are you trying to get back into it?

    You were so close with the “HOLY CRAP” part: Great and mighty GAWD has so ordained it. Sheesh, you’d think everybody would know that by now.

  86. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:52

    or that all our towns weren’t spaced 6-8 miles apart

    Google “interurban trolleys” and weep.

  87. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:56

    Actually, want to provide mass transit over the whole country on the cheap? Put trolleys in the shoulders of highways.

  88. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 20:57

    Those Hummers burn through the gas quick! So the rich people need more gas.

    IT IS OBVIOUS.

  89. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:00

    Great and mighty GAWD has so ordained it

    You’d think Mormon God would be too busy. Dude’s got spirit babies to make.

  90. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:02

    This thing that neo-liberals and libertardians share – the blind faith in MARKETS! – funny if it weren’t so depressing. You would think that people so vested in MARKETS! would have some basic understanding of what they are.

    Markets are indeed a useful mechanism to efficiently distribute limited resources. Participants each have their own preferences and are in a good position to place a value on how much they would like certain things. Thus you get your basic supply and demand curves and generally people end up with the things they need to get. BUT this all requires that buyers can accurately assess how much they want things and sellers can accurately determine what they are willing to let things go for. All of it flies out the window during crises.

    How does a market develop in the span of time a disaster occupies? Yglesias imagines novel delivery techniques if prices were allowed to expand without control – but who is going to actually do this sort of thing? Imagine pitching the business model – we’ll wait for a natural disaster and then using this novel technique, deliver goods and massively inflated prices. Caveats – even if gouging were allowed the degree of mark-up will always be unknown as is the frequency at which appropriate disasters will occur. Please fund my company. lol.

    Markets need stability and time. Consumers need time to determine what they want and how much they want it. Producers need to be able to see if the market demand warrants the development costs for bringing a product to the market. Big changes screws things up and perturbs the actual functioning of the market and a crisis / disaster scenario contains the conditions that would skew and break markets the most.

    Here’s a simple example of how shockingly wrong Yglesias has it – he contends that exorbitant prices and gouging would prevent hoarding and stockpiling. What a maroon. The first guy in line sees water bottles marked up from one dollar to two – and then he sees that the line behind him stretches into the next block. How much water does he buy? Note – if it were me, I’d only get what I needed, BUT consider that we’re in neo-lib MARKETS! world where rational actors behave to maximize their own self-interest.

    By allowing gouging and for transiently high demand to set pricing – you are almost certainly guaranteeing hoarding and stockpiling of goods. Especially if you’re looking at things from a MARKETS! perspective. i.e. the EXACT OPPOSITE of what he envisages.

  91. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:05

    Note – if it were me, I’d only get what I needed

    Falsehood! You have many mothers to water.

  92. jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:05

    President Dwayne Elizando Mountain Dew Herbert Comacho FTW, America!!!!!!!!!!!

    Holy mother of pearl: dude does a “Live Chat” vid that’s 28 minutes’ (!!!) worth of DEMDHC power. Eeep.

  93. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:07

    I now provide you something utterly OT for your weekend hangover cure options:

    An Englishman, living in Spain, compares two Pennsylvania Dutch recipes and with help from the local bar patrons decides which is better after a night on the town.

  94. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:07

    Speaking only for myself, contact sports go better with a single cup that cradles both testicles.

    i am so glad i was no longer consuming food items when i read this…beer cheese soup out the nose wouldn’t be fun…

  95. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:09

    Falsehood! You have many mothers to water.

    I don’t need bottled water to make mothers wet. But if I did, it would be Dos Equis I would definitely categorize it as a “need”.

  96. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:17

    An Englishman, living in Spain, compares two Pennsylvania Dutch recipes and with help from the local bar patrons decides which is better after a night on the town.

    i rarely get a chance to say this…okay, i’ve NEVER had the opportunity to say this, but i gotta go with fernando on this one…

  97. DAS said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:28

    I see that Matt Y still is trying to get into McMegan’s pants? Matt … if ya ain’t gettin any now, it’s not gonna happen, so ya might as well just give up

  98. KWillow said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:31

    jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    Some people’s version of a “Free Market” sure smells an awful lot like a Black Market to me

    I do believe you have NAILED it.

  99. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:33

    I see that Matt Y still is trying to get into McMegan’s pants?

    McMegan is price-gouging, but that’s cool.

  100. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:34

    APOLOGIES TO ALL RIGHT-THINKING FEMINISTS.

  101. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:38

    1. There is nothing bad about Independent suspension. In fact, live-axles (the alternative) are so obsolete even the new Mustang will (finally) shed its live-axle rear end.

    2. Imma hafta take a few moments to read those Pennyslavia things – I have made my own souse and scrapple too.

    3. We have in Portland what is often called the best mass transit system in the country. The bus service is good. The streetcar is great (I feel like I’m living in Europe again when I ride the streetcar). Light rail is generally excellent save for a few things. Ray LaHood is here allatime showing off our system to city and county offficials from all over the place. We even manufacture the streetcars right here (albeit under license from Skoda).

    We have more than a few problems however. The redneck Clackistanis (Clackamas county residents), who mostly commute to Portland for work, refused to chip in anything for the new Sellwood bridge which is on the edge of Multnomah county and is the main route between the city and most of Clackamas county. The bridge is falling apart, they need it but NOOOOO, they voted down a measly $5 surcharge on vehicle registration (which are good for two years in OR). There’s a new light rail line going in which will connect Portland and the rest of the Trimet system to Calackistan’s largest city. They’re trying to fuck that up. They had a referendum to prohibit the county from providing ANY funds to ANY mass transit project without referendum. This after the county already agreed to chip in a measly $25 million or something as their share of the multi-billion dollar project. Fucking whingers the lot of them.

  102. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:43

    Clacking the stanis.

  103. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:44

    i swear to bob and all that is holy, that if i could, i would heave my effing pos hp printer out the bobdamn window…

  104. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:44

    it is giving a throbbing vein of tsam proportions in my forehead…

  105. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:46

    Okay then. Those are both passable recipes. Barely. The souse has to be sliced much thinner. Scrapple without the offal isn’t scrapple. Chili powder is an interesting idea but would NEVER belong in scrapple. Wrong character completely. The key to scrapple is in the frying – it MUST have a crsipy crust. And without (real goddam boiled down tree sap) maple syrup I don’t know why anyone would bother.

  106. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:49

    bbkf has an adult-male-sized vein on her forehead! Take her to the carnival: SEE THE AMAZING VEIN-GIRL!

  107. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:49

    Oh, right. I forgot to mention that the new light rail line will reduce the traffic on the Sellwood bridge – among the nastiest choke points in the metro area – greatly.

  108. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:51

    The redneck Clackistanis (Clackamas county residents), who mostly commute to Portland for work, refused to chip in anything for the new Sellwood bridge which is on the edge of Multnomah county and is the main route between the city and most of Clackamas county

    Invisible Hand Markets, Inc. says TOLL BRIDGE THEIR ASSES.

  109. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:53

    Off Topic, but I notice in Nate Silver has got Sparklines all over his most recent post. Sparklines[1]! Your lie-beral biased NYTimes tea leaf reader who is also possibly ghey but most definitely S,N!’s favouritest can-do-no-wrong guy is an Excel user. Microsoft Excel, or rather Micro$oft Excel. There – now all you lib-tards have to convert to Capitalism.

    [1] You know who else loves sparklines?

  110. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:59

    Speaking of Clackamas: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/02/1154413/-Clackamas-County-Oregon-GOP-ballot-officials-fill-in-GOP-on-blank-ballots

  111. gocart mozart said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:01

    What we are gonna have to deal with if Obama wins

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/11/01/election-predictions-from-the-sub-christian-religious-right/

  112. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:10

    When I published my column
    That was making the case
    Against bans on “price-gouging”,
    There were palms to the face.

    Some were outraged
    That I’d pick this to write,
    While others said MY view
    was common to cite.

    But look at these photos
    Of line-ups for gas,
    In messed-up New Jersey
    And you’ll see I can’t pass!

    Christie brought fines
    And talked to the press
    Warning retailers that
    They should not charge to excess.

    But stopping the gouging’s
    Not some magic spell!
    The citizens wind up in
    Long-line-up-hell.

    And what’s worse?
    When they get to the front of the line
    They buy all they can
    Just like hogs, just like swine.

    Without price-gouging
    People won’t try to gouge prices
    And won’t try to ship you
    The fix for your vices.

    Worse than that the gas stations
    Are just selling gas
    And nothing much else
    (Pulled that out of my ass).

    It’s a gas-supply crisis!
    And people want that!
    (But not water or munchies
    or food for the cat.)

    Long story short,
    What’s now rare should be rarer
    The poor won’t waste time!
    For the rich that’s much fairer.

  113. M. Bouffant said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:11

    MY is right! Gas lines will only lead to civil unrest. Lootin’, shootin’ & wailin’!! See?

  114. overabundance of manly man inducing man fluids said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:12

    Don’t blame me for Tagg, Harp, Loot, Gilgamesh and Flounder.

  115. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:13

    bbkf has an adult-male-sized vein on her forehead!

    you make it sound so hawt…

  116. Whale Chowder said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:14

    The new Impreza hatchbacks are super

    We bought an Outback about six months ago. What a great vehicle. Comfy, great in rain, and we’ve probably put more off-pavement miles on it than any six Hummers.

    Best part: over 30MPG highway, over 25 mixed-use. Can’t wait to take it up skiing this winter.

  117. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:15

    hey paleo…where is the place in wi you and the missus went to gorge on wine and such? a friend just gave me a bottle of maiden something or other wine and i was wondering if that was such…

  118. overabundance of manly man inducing man fluids said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:16

    I kind of like Edsels, but then I have a Desoto.

    Gee, our old Lasalle ran great!

  119. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:16

    Speaking of Nate Silver, the most delightful surprise of this election season for me has got to be the fortunes of the Democratic Senate majority. 538′s forecast has a GOP Senate hovering around the same liklihood as a filibuster-proof Democratic caucus. O.o

    There’s some interesting speculation about how FAIL the GOP has been, possibly alluding to the impacts of their social-conservative fueled tea-party chasing. Maybe something about how SuperPACs were apparently not a mechanism for “high net worth individuals” to take over the country (even more than they already have) as is their birthright, but merely a more efficient grift that has as an odd side-effect the dismantlement of any hopes of Republican gains in the Senate. Might make an interesting blog post.

  120. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:16

    Lootin’, shootin’ & wailin’!! See?

    Marshall Law is Jude’s brother, right?

  121. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:17

    Marshall Law is Jude’s brother, right?

    At least two metal bands.

  122. paleotectonics said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:17

    The nym, she has failed. Failed.

  123. M. Bouffant said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:18

    Of course, those w/ equalizers needn’t worry about how much money they have, just about ammo. And the fascist police. Who pays the police? Not the 47%!! They’d better learn who their bosses are.

  124. CRA said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:18

    If the measure of demand is what people are willing and able to pay at market, all sorts of problems are whisked away. The poor people of New Orleans could not effectively take their demands for disaster relief to market. Economy in the broadest sense would have recognized their demands, even if unable to meet them through political means. If the market is the measure of all things, however, nothing can “skew and break markets” but their subordination to politics. The market becomes not a subset of our dealings, but the rightful form all our skewed and broken dealings should take. Should disaster relief address human suffering and repair things, or relieve people of any sense of social obligation? The latter is what market-based disaster response can best accomplish.

  125. paleotectonics said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:22

    Hey bbkf!

    Teh Whispering Winds Winery – Sweetie has a happy, but also a sad, down to 4 bottles. We also order from the Wollersheim Winery, Prairie Du Sac, good wines, grape and fruit.

  126. paleotectonics said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:25

    I see that Matt Y still is trying to get into McMegan’s pants?

    Or McSuderman’s. Or both. Or the $15,000 stainless steel kitchen tool. It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  127. Smut Clyde said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:26

    McMegan is price-gouging, but that’s cool.

    Queuing would be dysfunctional.

  128. vacuumslayer said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:38

    Hey. Did you guys know that Nate Silver is a faggy-fag-fag? That must mean…something.

  129. vacuumslayer said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:38

    BTW, I always thought Nate was kinda cute in a mega-nerdy way, and I’m tiny bit sad he’s a ghey.

    BECAUSE OTHERWISE I TOTALLY WOULD HAVE HAD A CHANCE.

  130. M. Bouffant said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:38

    Important Internet security site.

    Found here. (Lootin’ w/ a twist.)

  131. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:39

    Queuing would be dysfunctional.

    Also.

  132. bbkf said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:39

    Teh Whispering Winds Winery – Sweetie has a happy, but also a sad, down to 4 bottles. We also order from the Wollersheim Winery, Prairie Du Sac, good wines, grape and fruit.

    hmmm…this stuff is maiden head or some such as that…from lovely maiden head or something or other wisconsin…i shall test it out this weekend and give you my review…

  133. eddie said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:41

    Of course, slightly less assholey 4x4s are sooo much better than hummers. But is seems many americans are too stupid to by a better car:

    http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/54250/car_focus/no_opel_corsa_opc_for_the_us_market.html

    *drops and rolls*

  134. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:43

    Okay then. Those are both passable recipes. Barely. The souse has to be sliced much thinner. Scrapple without the offal isn’t scrapple. Chili powder is an interesting idea but would NEVER belong in scrapple. Wrong character completely. The key to scrapple is in the frying – it MUST have a crsipy crust. And without (real goddam boiled down tree sap) maple syrup I don’t know why anyone would bother.

    I like scrapple, and am agreed entirely on frying, and also on the syrup (and so does Rick Perry).

    I’ve never had the souse stuff, and the giant slabs of tongue in that recipe were definitely a little off-putting.

    I do like this series of articles they’re doing. The “bacon sarnie” one has been my favorite by far.

  135. paleotectonics said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:46

    hmmm…this stuff is maiden head or some such as that…from lovely maiden head or something or other wisconsin…i shall test it out this weekend and give you my review…

    Please bbkf, oh please, please, for teh love all that is good and noodly, PRETTY PLEASE WITH BEER ON TOP post a pic of the label – I have GOT to see the marketing for maiden head!

    {/dirty old man}

  136. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:46

    Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:10 (kill)

    When I published my column
    That was making the case
    Against bans on “price-gouging”,
    There were palms to the face.

    That is a thing of beauty. If only I had an iPrecious and $2.99, I could hear William Shatner read it to me. [long wistful sigh]

  137. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:57

    You’ve probably seen it already but I just ran across it.

    http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/32fefff604/ayn-rand-private-access-show

  138. Spearhafoc, who waits dreaming in his house at R'lyeh said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:00

    The Unskewed Polls guy made an electoral map of his predictions. I think we better bookmark it.

    Also, some reporter from a Fox affiliate claimed that he heard a crowd at a rally chanting “Hail Obama”. Wingnut Twitter, at the very least, seems to be going crazy over it.

  139. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:04

    eddie said,

    November 2, 2012 at 22:41 (kill)

    Of course, slightly less assholey 4x4s are sooo much better than hummers. But is seems many americans are too stupid to by a better car:

    http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/54250/car_focus/no_opel_corsa_opc_for_the_us_market.html

    *drops and rolls*

    Wasn’t that from, like 2006?

  140. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:05

    Found here. (Lootin’ w/ a twist.)

    I would totally have looted that cat.

  141. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:05

    The Unskewed Polls guy made an electoral map of his predictions. I think we better bookmark it.

    That map shows Oregon red. Zow. Eee. That is some serious stupid right there.

  142. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:06

    The whole state’s not like Rosedale?

  143. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:07

    Spearhafoc, who waits dreaming in his house at R’lyeh said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:00 (kill)

    I hope I can take credit for introducing my fellow Sadlies to the always worth reading JoeMyGod. I mean, I’m pretty sure I started dropping links to him here way back.

  144. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:12

    Teh Whispering Winds Winery

    “Silent But Deadly Syrah” is their top seller.

    Followed closely by “Flatus Fumé Blanc” and “Gassy Grenache”.

  145. Spearhafoc, who waits dreaming in his house at R'lyeh said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:12

    I hope I can take credit for introducing my fellow Sadlies to the always worth reading JoeMyGod.

    Er, I came across it on Twitter. I’m not a regular reader of too many blogs besides this one.

  146. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:14

    I would totally have looted that cat.

    Pilfering the pussy?

    Nah, too obvious.

  147. tigris said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:15

    The Unskewed Polls guy made an electoral map of his predictions. I think we better bookmark it.

    He thinks Mitt’s gonna lose Massachusetts, where he was governor?!! PESSIMIST!

  148. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 2, 2012 at 23:57

    He thinks Mitt’s gonna lose Massachusetts, where he was governor?!! PESSIMIST!

    Think this’ll be the end of that “Al Gore couldn’t carry his home state” crap?

    Probably not.

  149. Smut Clyde said,

    November 3, 2012 at 0:19

    From M.Bouffant’s link:

    GNAA’s biggest victory–insofar as trolling the public and possibly the police during a widespread emergency can be called a victory–seems to be the article in The Daily Mail,

    It is hardly an accomplishment to fool the Daily Mail, least of all when using racism and classism as the bait.

  150. Smut Clyde said,

    November 3, 2012 at 0:23

    Google “interurban trolleys” and weep.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Bahn

  151. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:04

    Think this’ll be the end of that “Al Gore couldn’t carry his home state” crap?

    Rmoney is going to lose ALL FOUR of his home states. Beat that.

  152. Whale Chowder said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:06

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-Bahn

    That’s them faggy Europeens. Who needs ‘em?

    *sob!*

  153. Whale Chowder said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:07

    Pup, no offense intended!

  154. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:13

    None taken. Specially since I’m an all-American mutt. Many times when I was travelling in Europe with my European colleagues we would meet with some friend or acquaintance at the business class lounge in whatevr airport. It was usually ten or fifteen minutes of conversation (over beers, smokes, snacks, more beer) that people would ask why I speak with an American accent.

  155. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:14

    Tintin, on the other hand, who is French or gay or both deserves an apology.

  156. N__B said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:17

    I thought Tintin was of the Belgish persuasion.

  157. Whale Chowder said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:26

    To all French, fags, both, neither, or otherwise European: I offer my humblest apologies.

    We still don’t need no public transport infrastructure. We’re too tough and individual and We Built That. &c.

  158. tigris said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:28

    If we don’t have a public transport infrastructure doesn’t it prove We Didn’t Build That?

  159. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:33

    I thought Tintin was of the Belgish persuasion.

    Yes he is. “Tintin is French or gay or both” was a thing here a while back. Search your memories, you will recall.

  160. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:40

    Oh please please please please.

    http://www.politicususa.com/vote-jesus-garners-1-6-million-pledges.html

  161. Whale Chowder said,

    November 3, 2012 at 1:53

    Search your memories, you will recall.

    Given my memory, this is an unreasonable request. However, teh googol machiene puts the post of “interest” at somewhere around early July 2009.

    That’s as far as I got before I got bored and quit. Between deletion and disemvowelling, I’m not sure the relevant post even exists any more.

  162. tsam said,

    November 3, 2012 at 2:00

    it is giving a throbbing vein of tsam proportions in my forehead…

    tsam proportions? honey, you have no idea what this proportion is…

  163. Smut Clyde said,

    November 3, 2012 at 2:09

    We still don’t need no public transport infrastructure.

    The other bonus of investment in rail transport over the years is that cities in Nth. Europe have strips of reserved land, which get turned into allotments aka Kleingartens — just big enough for a garden shed and a few rows of beans — so people can live in their inner-city apartments and still have access to somewhere to till the soil drink beer in the shed.

  164. Major Kong said,

    November 3, 2012 at 2:09

    Google “interurban trolleys” and weep.

    Ohio had a big interurban system back in the day.

    http://www.columbusrailroads.com/new/?menu=04Interurbans

    Some of the tunnels are still there:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blackhand_interurbantunnel_southend_102004.bmp.jpg

  165. tsam said,

    November 3, 2012 at 2:21

    The souse has to be sliced much thinner. Scrapple without the offal isn’t scrapple

    I know, right? Fucking philistines.

  166. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 3, 2012 at 2:22

    Oh please please please please.

    http://www.politicususa.com/vote-jesus-garners-1-6-million-pledges.html

    Wait a minute. Don’t you have to be 35 to be president? And don’t even get me started on his birth certificate problems.

  167. tsam said,

    November 3, 2012 at 2:23

    I thought tintin was of the canine persuasion. Add a rin, get a puppy!

  168. tsam said,

    November 3, 2012 at 2:24

    Internet evangelist Bill Keller is urging the faithful to promise to vote for Jesus for president in this election.

    I’m going to kill him.

  169. tsam said,

    November 3, 2012 at 2:27

    Let’s get into the hot tub!

  170. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 3, 2012 at 2:42

    I thought Tintin felt so fresh today.

  171. N__B said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:06

    Have you ever had that not-so-Tintin feeling?

  172. Snorghagen said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:10

    We’d need to have a decent mass-transit system.

    Why can’t we have an indecent mass-transit system?

  173. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:16

    Why can’t we have an indecent mass-transit system?

    Because Smut Clyde is in this country only occasionally. if you think you can do as good a job as he at indecentizing a mass-transit system, well have at it.

  174. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:19

    Okay then.

  175. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:20

    Okay, I clicked on the Duffy link (I had blessedly forgotten about that Tin tin damn you SMcG!). When the utube app opened the search box was filled in. Why was I looking up Janet Flanner?

  176. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:21

    And when?

  177. tigris said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:21

    Why can’t we have an indecent mass-transit system?

    I had some guy try to feel me up on the Metro going home after July 4th one year. I stomped on his foot.

  178. Snorghagen said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:27

    Indecentizing the transit system

  179. Smut Clyde said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:40

    I stomped on his foot.

    I HAVE AN ALIBI.

  180. Major Kong said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:44

    I HAVE AN ALIBI.

    I didn’t do it. Nobody saw me. You can’t prove a thing.

  181. tigris said,

    November 3, 2012 at 3:57

    I HAVE AN ALIBI.

    It was an Indian guy with his wife who wasn’t the fabulous Frau Doktorin, so yes, you’re safe. FOR NOW.

  182. kg said,

    November 3, 2012 at 4:13

    So we’re talking about Risky Business now?

  183. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 4:15

    Herr Doktor Bimmler is as masterful at disguises as Inspector Clouseau. HDB can’t prove he isnt Inspector Clouseau. Did you ever see them together? I didnt think so.

  184. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 4:16

    I had some guy try to feel me up on the Metro going home after July 4th one year.

    IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPHECY.

  185. Pupienus said,

    November 3, 2012 at 4:18

    And if you were going home together you really should have expected it. Slut. You were asking for it.

  186. tigris said,

    November 3, 2012 at 4:46

    So was his foot asking for a stomping.

  187. VCarlson said,

    November 3, 2012 at 5:07

    What we are gonna have to deal with if Obama wins

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/11/01/election-predictions-from-the-sub-christian-religious-right/

    So, reading down, I remembered the title to that classic song, “Happiness is Lubbock, Texas in Your Rear-View Mirror*.” (OK, my favoritest title is “Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Goalposts of Life)

    Some of the other predictions had me wishing it were true. Of course, most were IT’S ALWAYS PROJECTION.

    *Teh Google tells me the actual title is “Texas in My Rear View Mirror” – the above is part of the lyric.

  188. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 3, 2012 at 5:37

    My little buddy, LarryElvis, has been missing for five hours. Door wouldn’t latch this morning, and I was not able to do more than to shim the door closed before leaving for work. You know what happened, next.
    .

  189. tigris said,

    November 3, 2012 at 5:46

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/11/01/election-predictions-from-the-sub-christian-religious-right/

    It’s cool how Obama respects the Constitution enough to actually run for reelection before totally repealing it and destroying the nation in a second term.

  190. tigris said,

    November 3, 2012 at 5:49

    Aw, I hope your handsome kitty comes home soon.

  191. Snorghagen said,

    November 3, 2012 at 5:50

    What we are gonna have to deal with if Obama wins
    - – - – - – - – - – - – -
    Lubbock County, Texas, Judge Tom Head: “[President Obama] is going to try to hand over the sovereignty of the United States to the U.N. … He’s going to send in U.N. troops — with the little blue beanies.”

    UN troops in little blue beanies are very, very bad. But Obama will send in other guys in beanies who are even worse.

  192. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 5:53

    I’ve always liked Hayes Carll’s lyrics, especially:

    She left me for Jesus and that just ain’t fair
    She says that He’s perfect, how could I compare?
    She says I should find Him and I’ll know peace at last
    If I ever find Jesus, I’m kicking His ass

    There aren’t many thinking man’s country artists like Hayes and Lyle Lovett… if you know of more (maybe John Hiatt, if you wanna call him country) please let me in on the secret.

  193. VCarlson said,

    November 3, 2012 at 5:56

    My little buddy, LarryElvis, has been missing for five hours.

    I hope he comes home soon. Having grown up with one, I have a soft spot for seal point apple heads. Oz might have saved my life – he killed a centipede in my bedroom that might have walked over six month old me.

  194. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 3, 2012 at 6:01

    Here’s L.E. when I first met him, almost six years ago. :(
    .

  195. Spearhafoc, who waits dreaming in his house at R'lyeh said,

    November 3, 2012 at 6:17

    I am so sorry. I can’t imagine what I would do if we lost Crafty. I really hope everything turns out okay.

  196. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 3, 2012 at 6:26

    LarryElvis IS HOME!!!! YAY!
    .

  197. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 6:27

    Please bbkf, oh please, please, for teh love all that is good and noodly, PRETTY PLEASE WITH BEER ON TOP post a pic of the label – I have GOT to see the marketing for maiden head!

    sorry to disappoint…it is actually just called ‘maiden wine’ and it is made in maiden rock wisc….judging by the rather cheesy native american lady on the label, i am predicting the drinking of it will be as well…

  198. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 6:29

    LarryElvis IS HOME!!!! YAY!

    yay indeed!

  199. Spearhafoc, who waits dreaming in his house at R'lyeh said,

    November 3, 2012 at 6:29

    Woo hoo!

  200. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 3, 2012 at 6:36

    L.E. was cowering between a privacy fence and some bushes at the other end of the next building, a half-block away. He heard me whistling and talking, and slowly realized it WAS his buddy, come to find him. It was a short hop up to my shoulder for face licks, and a brief, uneventful walk home, at that point.
    .
    *whew*
    .

  201. John Revolta said,

    November 3, 2012 at 7:50

    Just how big was this goddamned centipede?

  202. VCarlson said,

    November 3, 2012 at 8:10

    Just how big was this goddamned centipede?

    According to my folks, pretty damn big. Of course, they were new parents, and pretty recently moved to Havana, so it’s possible they were overreacting a tad.

    And, JP- I’m so happy LarryElvis is back home. I’m having a bit of difficulty, as my Siamese cross resents the attention I’m paying the computer. On my shoulder now. Much better.

  203. CRA said,

    November 3, 2012 at 8:16

    It’s cool how Obama respects the Constitution enough to actually run for reelection before totally repealing it and destroying the nation in a second term.

    He’s like a villain in a badly-plotted story — that’s how they see him.

    His ego leads him to seek reelection. It is the more elegant and fiendish route to power, like inviting a vampire into your house. Or something.

    He’d be ruined if anyone found his journal, but he leaves it lying around.

    When he does evil things he leaves cryptic clues, but not too cryptic.

  204. VCarlson said,

    November 3, 2012 at 8:24

    He’d be ruined if anyone found his journal, but he leaves it lying around.

    When he does evil things he leaves cryptic clues, but not too cryptic.

    He must not have read the Evil Overlord list. Careless of him.

  205. VCarlson said,

    November 3, 2012 at 8:40

    Doggone. Trying again.

    He must not have read the Evil Overlord list. Careless of him.

  206. Smut Clyde said,

    November 3, 2012 at 9:57

    Why can’t we have an indecent mass-transit system?
    Because Smut Clyde is in this country only occasionally. if you think you can do as good a job as he at indecentizing a mass-transit system, well have at it.

    Harumph too also. When Pupienus enters the catering business on a professional basis, he will be running an indelicatessen.

  207. Smut Clyde said,

    November 3, 2012 at 9:58

    LarryElvis IS HOME!!!! YAY!

    Yay on behalf of our own feline overlords.

  208. Suezboo said,

    November 3, 2012 at 10:09

    Oh, JP, I’m so glad for you both. It must have been SUCH a relief when he appeared.And ain’t ya proud that he recognised his Papa calling?

  209. John Revolta said,

    November 3, 2012 at 10:12

    Ah. Commie centipede. Say no more.

  210. vacuumslayer has changed her nym to Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 3, 2012 at 13:12

    I have changed my nym. Bookmark it, libs.

  211. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 3, 2012 at 13:12

    See? I told you.

  212. N__B said,

    November 3, 2012 at 14:02

    I don’t know who you are anymore.

  213. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 3, 2012 at 14:38

    I’m Paul Rudd’s right testicle. I’ve always known…but it feels good to come out of the closet.

  214. Major Kong said,

    November 3, 2012 at 15:09

    I’m Paul Rudd’s right testicle

    Who’s the left one?

  215. CRA said,

    November 3, 2012 at 16:12

    He must not have read the Evil Overlord list. Careless of him.

    Oh that’s a nice list. I stopped reading at 100. It could be condensed into a few generalizations, but that would be no fun at all.

    Working it back to politics, it may be that there are two types of people in the U.S. One type hates Obama, and also fully expects him to commit Evil Overlord errors (not that they’d be capable of making a list), because that’s how the world works. Being black is a fundamental error, a giveaway.

    Setting aside race, we’re also dealing with nitwits who are greatly reassured by a conservative haircut, a nice suit, and a smile — the hoariest con! They think evil men sometimes reveal their natures by growing a beard, and they vote.

  216. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 3, 2012 at 16:25

    Who’s the left one?
    James Westphal.

  217. N__B said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:15

    VS’s revelation that she’s actually a testicle seems to have put a damper on things.

  218. John Revolta said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:19

    I always thought she was kind of a nut.

  219. tigris said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:23

    The bunny ears have suddenly become disturbing.

  220. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:23

    Setting aside race, we’re also dealing with nitwits who are greatly reassured by a conservative haircut, a nice suit, and a smile — the hoariest con! They think evil men sometimes reveal their natures by growing a beard, and they vote.

    a collective of mark trails, if you will….

  221. N__B said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:23

    She learned that there’s a vas deferens between men and women.

  222. N__B said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:24

    Blog whore: a time lapse of Sandy turning out t he lights is up at my place.

  223. Pupienus, who is getting his doctorate in anathematics said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:37

    Now that LarryElvis is home safely I can tell the first thing that came to mind upon hearing he was missing.

  224. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:39

    She learned that there’s a vas deferens between men and women.

    do you stay up nights thinking of these? you really should write a book…

  225. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:44

    enh…last night hubbkf and i traveled to the big town in south dakota to bring maxine in to the apple repair shop over there…he also bought me some cowboy boots…this country obsession of his is getting weird…anyhoo, we availed ourselves of the new b-dubs over there…this morning my fingers resemble sausages…even the ring which usually spins around on my finger is stuck fast…never. again….

  226. Major Kong said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:46

    the big town in south dakota

    Sioux Falls?

  227. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:51

    ha, ha…not that lucky…nope, watertown…its south dakota’s rising star!

  228. Major Kong said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:54

    21,000 people counts as a “big town” in South Dakota? I forget just how sparsely populated it is.

    My suburb of Columbus has 36,000

  229. N__B said,

    November 3, 2012 at 18:58

    this country obsession of his is getting weird

    Has he asked you to put a bridle on him?

  230. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:01

    My neighborhood has a population of twenty two thousand.

  231. N__B said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:06

    Huh. My neighborhood is only about 10,000, but a bit denser: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_Park_City#Demographics

  232. CRA said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:07

    “a collective of mark trails, if you will….”–bbkf

    Do ya visit The Comics Curmudgeon?

  233. Major Kong said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:07

    Is that a nice neighborhood DKW? I’ve never ventured much past The Beaches on the East side.

  234. Major Kong said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:09

    Do ya visit The Comics Curmudgeon?

    No, but I’m going to start.

  235. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:11

    Shit, my university had an undergraduate student body of 25,000 and that was back in 1985. Now I think it’s up to 40k.

  236. CRA said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:13

    “…this morning my fingers resemble sausages…even the ring which usually spins around on my finger is stuck fast…never. again….”

    Related: on the one hand (so to speak), I’m too fat to wear my wedding ring, on the other, women don’t hit on me as much as the used to, ring or no.

  237. jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:15

    Happy to hear that Elvis has re-entered the building.

    I’m Paul Rudd’s right testicle.

    Eh, I imagine the pay is lame … but at least it’s an indoor gig.

  238. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:22

    One of these days I’m gonna remember to take the halloween costume off of my nym.

    It’s kinda like how my mom used to leave the Xmas tree up until Easter…

  239. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:26

    but at least it’s an indoor gig.

    We desperately hope so.

  240. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:30

    James Westphal

    The astronomer or the economist?

    One wears a beard, the other a yarmaluke.

  241. jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:36

    south dakota’s rising star!

    Needs a wee something to rescue that intro blurb, there:

    WELCOME TO FUCKING WATERTOWN!

    COME AT US, BRO! WELCOME TO A STONE-COLD 21,000-STRONG HARDASS-ARMY ABOUT TO FUCK YOUR WORLD! ART? TRY “OVER 150 BRUTAL REDLIN ORIGINALS THAT WOULD MAKE JET LI CRY” ART! SERIOUS STONE PIMP RETAIL? A WIZARD SAFE-HOUSE MASQUERADING AS A FUCKING MUSEUM? A ZOO WHERE THEY KEEP FUCKING GODZILLA? NOT TO MENTION MEGASHARK? THIS BITCH NEEDS TO HAVE TWO GOLF-COURSES FOR WHEN THE LOCALS UNLEASH THE FUCKING POWER & OBLITERATE THE FIRST ONE! YOU EITHER STEP LIGHT & SURE HERE OR BE PWNED FOREVER – IN WATERTOWN, THE WEAK ARE HUNTED FOR SPORT EVERY SPRING! WATERTOWN IS MORE THAN A TEST OF SURVIVAL: THIS SHIT IS A REAL-LIFE COSMIC FUCKING NEXUS OF CONTINUITY – IF YOU DARE TO ENTER IT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE EVERYTHING EVER & SPONTANEOUSLY FUCKING COMBUST!

    Oddly, my local Chamber Of Commerce doesn’t return my calls.

  242. tigris said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:41

    A WIZARD SAFE-HOUSE MASQUERADING AS A FUCKING MUSEUM? A ZOO WHERE THEY KEEP FUCKING GODZILLA?

    It seems a mistake to try to duplicate the museum experience at the zoo.

  243. Pupienus, noted anathematician said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:56

    Time for me to prove once again that I am pop ilculturate.

    What’s a b-dubs?

    The astronomer or the economist?

    I had to google the name. James Westfall is a reference to a movie(?) I have never seen.

  244. kg said,

    November 3, 2012 at 19:59

    Buffalo wildwings, a horrible “eatery”

  245. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 20:30

    The last (and first) time I ate at a Buffalo Wild Wings, I left with a headache and heartburn. And the next day, assburn. “Never again,” is seconded.

    The wings are comparable to Dominos, and at least Dominos will bring them to your door, and you can put them in a toaster oven to finish cooking them.

    Surprisingly, the best wings I’ve found at a chain restaurant are at Islands.

    But in general, I prefer to make my own.

  246. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 3, 2012 at 20:34

    Is that a nice neighborhood DKW?

    I think I mentioned it skews conservative. It’s kinda suburby and working class. I wouldn’t call it a nice neighbourhood, but it is home.

    We got some pretty excellent Hakka Chinese food and some other good ethnic food, but it’s still LEAFS SUCK, everyone has some good ethnic restaurants. It’s car country out here even though I am walking distance to a subway stop. We got a lot of parkland, but it’s mostly smaller plots alongside the Highland Creek, so you are always within a few hundred metres of arterial asphalt.

    I like it where I am, but I mostly stay in with Ultra Ninja and her mom. It’s biggest advantage is that it’s reasonably convenient to get out of.

  247. VCarlson said,

    November 3, 2012 at 20:59

    I think I mentioned it skews conservative.

    But I’m guessing your conservatives are not actually in favor of getting rid of your health care system and replacing it with the USA’s mess?

  248. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:06

    Do ya visit The Comics Curmudgeon?

    every day!

    Has he asked you to put a bridle on him?

    not yet…although i must admit, i keep hoping…

    COME AT US, BRO! WELCOME TO A STONE-COLD 21,000-STRONG HARDASS-ARMY ABOUT TO FUCK YOUR WORLD!

    omg…last night at b-dubs, a group of dusky skinned youth came in….pants on the ground and all that….but one went the extra yard…he was wearing a fur jacket and matching hat….i wanted to tap him on the shoulder and say, ‘uh…you DO know that you’re in watertown south dakota, don’t you?’ but i didn’t want to shake his bad-ass image…

    Buffalo wildwings, a horrible “eatery”

    that fully frontally assaults all your senses…banks of teepees blaring sports and loud, loud music EVERYwhere…even in the cans….we mostly went because it was right there and hubbkf refuses to eat at crapplebees…and he’s not a fan of culvers either, so b-dubs it was!

  249. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:08

    My neighborhood has a population of twenty two thousand.

    ya know, i think every sadly should visit my neck of the woods at some point…i’d love to gauge reactions…

  250. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:15

    This is close to the recipe I use for my homemade wings, except I add a heaping tablespoon of corn starch and a half teaspoon of black pepper to the flour mixture, to get them a little crispier and a little spicier. But they’re baked, not fried. You can’t really tell the difference, except they may be a little more chicken-fattier and a little less crisco-greasier than something deep fried.

    You can also do thickly-sliced sweet onions in the same batter, and cook the same way alongside the wings, and toss in the same sauce. It’s friggin’ awesome. Use white or Vidalia onions and slice about 3/8″ thick, separating them into rings before tossing.

    But if you insist on deep frying your wings, the Hooters recipe looks like an authentic one. Though again, I’d add a half tablespoon of corn starch to the flour mixture… and of course, specify Frank’s Original sauce.

    After researching this, I now have a plan for tomorrow’s game-day munchies…

  251. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:21

    Hmm… however… it is now also Beer and Brats season.

    Oh, the dilemma!

  252. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:30

    One more recipe, something I had to write down after serving at a potluck last week, so I might as well share:

    BUFFALO CHICKEN DIP
    Makes about 4 cups

    It’s really hard to mess this up. Proportions and cooking time don’t really matter. Just be sure to use Frank’s Original Red Hot sauce.

    8oz Cream Cheese, at room temperature
    1/2 cup Kraft Original Ranch Dressing & Dip
    . (Marie’s Creamy Ranch Dressing is good too)
    1/2 cup Frank’s Red Hot Original Pepper Sauce
    1/2 teaspoon ground black pepper
    1/2 cup Shredded Mozzarella Cheese (reserve a pinch for topping)
    2 cans (12.5 oz each) White Meat Chicken, shredded
    . (or about 1.5 cups leftover rotisserie chicken, finely chopped)

    Preheat oven to 375F. Lightly grease the sides of a casserole dish or 8×8 inch cake pan.

    In a mixing bowl, whisk cream cheese with a fork until soft and then slowly beat in Ranch and Frank’s in order, a little bit at a time, until well mixed. Stir in the black pepper, cheese and shredded chicken. Spread evenly in baking dish. Top sparingly with a few sprinkles of reserved cheese. Bake 20-30 minutes until bubbly and cheese is browned. Let rest 10 minutes before serving hot with celery and carrot sticks, Frito scoops, tortilla chips, toast crackers, or toasted baguette slices.

    Leftovers (if any) are good cold on lightly toasted sourdough bread with lettuce and sliced tomatoes.

  253. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:33

    It’s a weird kind of conservatism here. The selfishness is entirely directed within. Scrapping universal healthcare would play extremely negatively, but would also garner a lot of support if coupled with a tiny tax cut. You could probably get some of my neighbours to vote for anything, so long as it came with a tiny tax cut.

  254. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:37

    And ain’t ya proud that he recognised his Papa calling?

    Well, Larry is pretty dim-witted, but he knows who feeds and skritches him, it would seem.
    .

  255. Major Kong said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:42

    ya know, i think every sadly should visit my neck of the woods at some point…i’d love to gauge reactions…

    My wife is from the part of Ohio that is considered part of Appalachia. Geographically and culturally it looks like West Virginia.

    I couldn’t even tell you how to get to my mother-in-law’s place unless my wife was in the car with me.

    They have to drive 40 minutes each way to Chillicothe (population 22,000) just to buy groceries.

  256. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:52

    Heh. Looks like the undersized spares are falling off the Romney campaign, which has already had to repair a flat tire or two on the road to November 6. But, of course, the race announcers have to make it sound like it’s still a close finish.

    Also, Mr. Noun, Verb… 9/11 thinks his opinion is still relevant.

    Also, too: Sometimes “its always projection” is a self-hoisting petard. [snort!]

  257. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 3, 2012 at 21:59

    They have to drive 40 minutes each way to Chillicothe (population 22,000) just to buy groceries.

    Chillicothe has the stinky paper plant, right?
    .

  258. Major Kong said,

    November 3, 2012 at 22:06

    Chillicothe has the stinky paper plant, right?

    I see you’ve been there.

  259. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 3, 2012 at 22:07

    I see you’ve been there.

    Driven by many-a-time on the way to Columbus, yeah. U.S. 52, or U.S. 23… don’t recall which. There’s no good interstate way to get directly to Columbus from my hometown.
    .

  260. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 3, 2012 at 22:14

    Sunday mornings, about a hundred people gather in the closest park east of me. They come with little cages with songbirds. The park to the west, they play cricket.

  261. CRA said,

    November 3, 2012 at 22:20

    They come with little cages with songbirds.

    So they’re airing the birds?

  262. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 22:21

    Nate Silver, translated: Polls Showing Romney With Any Chance to Win Are Biased.

    (alternate title: My critics can go fuck themselves.)

    (rethugs’ take home message: Amp up the e-Vote “corrections” in NV, OH and VA!)

  263. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 22:42

    They have to drive 40 minutes each way to Chillicothe (population 22,000) just to buy groceries.

    yipes…at least we aren’t THAT remote…dkw’s neighborhood sounds pretty interesting…

    bug, i’ve made that buffalo dip…there’s seldom any leftovers…

  264. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 22:45

    i am sick to death of hearing what an amazing business man mittens is…yes, he was very, very good for bain capital…not so much for the businesses they destroyed…why can’t people fucking see that?!?!?

  265. Pupienus, Doctor of Anathematics said,

    November 3, 2012 at 23:12

    I’m wondering whether we will see, after Rmoney loses, the media finally start talking about the Mittster’s egregious mendacity, opacity, et cetera. “Whew, we dodged a bullet, now we can talk about it.” given that he hasn’t answered a question from the press since 22 days ago they aren’t exactly big fans anymore. Oh they’ll play nice until Wednesday then I think we might see them get vicious. I hope so.

    I also expect to see continued revelations about his possible criminal activities at Bain (the E-Toys bankruptcy fraud), talk about how he cadged billions from teh gooverment for the Olympics, and most especially his tax evasion. My thinking is the R party will have to destroy him in order to shift attention away from the real reason their nominee went down in flames.

  266. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 23:19

    bbkf – agreed, although sometimes mrs. bug (fanatic Oakland Raiders supporter) and I (financially-invested fantasy football contestant) can’t eat the entire thing on one Sunday, so we have “buffalo chicken salad sandwiches” on Monday.

    Also, I’ve come to recognize something my Nonna probably was addicted to: watching your family eat and enjoy the food you’ve cooked is a sublime pleasure. I mean, like it’s instinctive.

    Last week it was something as simple as beef and barley soup. This week it’s gonna be buffalo chicken wings (for me and the jr. bug) and buffalo onion rings (for mrs. bug, who will not eat meat on the bone, especially chicken).

    Game On!

  267. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 3, 2012 at 23:21

    I’m still amazed Mitt hasn’t been called out on his pride in his one term of governorship. He wasn’t wanted back…and that’s a strength?

  268. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 3, 2012 at 23:22

    pup – absolutely not. Mitt will be forgotten, like Kerry. The new conservomoderate message will be “Obama must be impeached.” There will be no criticism of the right wing, no analysis of how Mitt lost, no exploration of where America went wrong.

    It’s the same old trope, “Conservatism cannot fail, it can only be failed.”

    Look forward to an even worse contest in 2016.

  269. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 3, 2012 at 23:39

    Oh that Guiliani stuff was just outrageous. This motherfucker appointed a genuine, gold-plated crook, a corrupt bastard in thrall to the Mafia, as his police commissioner. Where does he get the fucking nerve to call anyone else incompetent?

  270. bbkf said,

    November 3, 2012 at 23:49

    Where does he get the fucking nerve to call anyone else incompetent?

    because 911 shut up that’s why?

  271. not a gator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 1:10

    Same sort of thinking that makes dumbasses think that jacking up the price of gas will reduce usage.

    Sounds like the liberals in my burg justifying jacking up power rates. (But, not, say where it would hurt for people with really big houses or businesses or anything.)

    Probably what Yglesias is thinking too (let them eat public transit!).

    Of course, this is transparently stupid–I mean, have you seen the damage to NJ Transit’s rail lines? Some people gotta go to work in person, you know.

  272. not a gator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 1:15

    Seems like there was a time in this country when that really wouldn’t have been questioned–like when we built an interstate highway system.

    Au contraire, rail and mass transit subsidies were opposed with the blazing hot fire of a thousand suns because COLLECTIVISM and PROGRESS.

    We can’t get transit subsidies now because NEARS. Riding or driving, both.

    If you care about this issue, though, tell your Rep to sign on to the Carnahan Bill.

  273. not a gator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 1:17

    Put trolleys in the shoulders of highways.

    Safety first.

  274. not a gator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 1:19

    How does a market develop in the span of time a disaster occupies? Yglesias imagines novel delivery techniques if prices were allowed to expand without control – but who is going to actually do this sort of thing? Imagine pitching the business model – we’ll wait for a natural disaster and then using this novel technique, deliver goods and massively inflated prices.

    The fact is, loony libs, that Yglesias seems charmingly unaware of the existence of “bad people” who make a “dishonest living” and the unpleasant truth that, to some extent, everyone’s bent.

    Libertarians who don’t like law & order should see how they like it in Somalia &cet &so forth.

  275. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 4, 2012 at 1:32

    Kim has an accent. That was voicemail 2 of 3 she left as I was riding home on Wanda, yesterday.
    .

  276. Major Kong said,

    November 4, 2012 at 1:37

    Glad Larry came home.

    The few times my cat jumped the fence and wandered off I was sick to my stomach.

  277. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 4, 2012 at 1:39

    Glad Larry came home.

    Oh, me, too! The people at Eschaton talked me down, and convinced me I’d have a better chance waiting until traffic and noise in the complex died down, then just quietly calling to him and keeping my ears open. That’s what worked, too.
    .

  278. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 4, 2012 at 1:46

    Interesting? Well, I guess so. I am serious about the biggest advantage being the ease of leaving. By subway, it’s 30-45 minutes to downtown depending on delays. There’s an infrequent commuter train that does it in 17 minutes. We are far enough out of the core that getting onto the highway going anywhere other than downtown generally works great.

    It’s mostly low density post war construction, half century old bungalows and back splits with 50 foot fronts and deep front lawns punctuated by clusters of mid and high rise apartment buildings. Distinctly a working class neighbourhood.

    If there’s anything really notable about Eglinton East, it’s the ethnic make-up. I’ve claimed before that LEAFS SUCK is the most multicultural city in the world. My nabe is even more so than the rest if the city. The main drag of this area has the following selection of restaurants: a steakhouse that thinks its on the highway, a steakhouse that thinks its still the eighties, a Guyanese place, two Hakka restaurants, a more traditional Chinese buffet, an Irish pub, an Middle Eastern bakery, a Tim Hortons, a couple seedier hole in the wall bars and one with exotic dancers, a couple Carribean roti joints, an old school sushi restaurant, a sub place, a couple pizza places and a KFC. I guess the other cool part of this area is that the two franchise joints are the only franchise eateries on that stretch of Eglinton.

  279. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 4, 2012 at 1:48

    Oh wait. One of the pizza places is a Pizzaville. So three franchises, the rest independents.

  280. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 4, 2012 at 2:20

    You haven’t had pizza until you’ve had Chillicothe Pizza.
    .

  281. ChaCha Roo said,

    November 4, 2012 at 2:26

    OBS, I went out and had a Chimay Cinq Cents this evening. Thread Bear made me go. It cost way more than five cents but it was worth it.

  282. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 4, 2012 at 2:47

    I should probably open up this huge box of Horny Toadz.
    .

  283. not a gator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 3:02

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blackhand_interurbantunnel_southend_102004.bmp.jpg

    Don’t be ridiculous. Interurban tunnels. The heathen kings of yore built that.

  284. Major Kong said,

    November 4, 2012 at 3:14

    a Guyanese place, two Hakka restaurants, a more traditional Chinese buffet, an Irish pub, an Middle Eastern bakery, a Tim Hortons, a couple seedier hole in the wall bars and one with exotic dancers, a couple Carribean roti joints, an old school sushi restaurant, a sub place, a couple pizza places and a KFC.

    I know where I’m going next time I’m in LEAFS SUCK.

  285. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 4, 2012 at 4:26

    The variety is there, but only a couple of them are really good.

  286. El Manquecito said,

    November 4, 2012 at 4:29

    Other than the Tim Horton’s you have to put a “Canadian’s” around all of those.

  287. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 4, 2012 at 4:41

    WHORE KNEE TOADZ!
    .

  288. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 4:50

    I think I would enjoy poutine.

    In Fornicalia, we have a fast food restaurant called The Hat which sells a dish called “wet fries,” which is french fries smothered in beef gravy with a dollop of grated mozza on top. tres YUM!

  289. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 4, 2012 at 4:51

    a dish called “wet fries,” which is french fries smothered in beef gravy with a dollop of grated mozza on top.

    I’ll be in my bunk.
    .

  290. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 4:54

    Vice President Big Pussy?

    Bada Bing!

  291. jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    November 4, 2012 at 5:18

    i am sick to death of hearing what an amazing business man mittens is…yes, he was very, very good for bain capital

    Siphoning buku lettuce by being a debt pimp?
    Almost as easy as being a Wall Street trader!

  292. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 5:19

    I haven’t posed this until now because I (mistakenly) confused it with Sub’s quote from Nordlinger last thread:

    Frum predicts a wingnut freakout if O wins

    If anything, an Obama re-election will not only aggravate the extremism of the congressional GOP, but also empower them: an Obama re-election raises the odds in favor of big sixth-year sweep for the congressional GOP – and very possibly a seventh-year impeachment.

    No fucking shit. We’re still nowhere near peak wingnut.

    Frum, meet Drum.

    It’s appalling that people are seriously making this argument. What’s worse, it’s the relatively sensible people who are making it. This is simply nuts. No country can survive with this attitude. If congressional Republicans are truly a destructive and irrational force in American politics—and God knows, I agree with Frum about that—the answer is to fight them, not to surrender to them. That way lies madness.

    If I had my way, people like Drum and Krugman would be running this government, not just commenting on it.

  293. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 5:23

    1,$s/posed/posted

  294. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 4, 2012 at 5:29

    Other than the Tim Horton’s you have to put a “Canadian’s” around all of those.

    This is pretty much true. For example, our “Hakka” food has nothing to do with the Hakka people, it’s just Westernized Chinese food with heavy influence of Westernized Indian food. But some of it is delicious.

    Also, you can actually find some more authentic foods here. Agincourt (or rather Asiancourt) is north of me and you can get some pretty good stuff that’s also true to the cuisine it claims to be. Mostly Cantonese / Hong Kong.

  295. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 6:05

    Language… it’s a virus!

  296. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 6:11

    Still mourning for Jaco

  297. John Revolta said,

    November 4, 2012 at 6:59

    i am sick to death of hearing what an amazing business man mittens is…yes, he was very, very good for bain capital…not so much for the businesses they destroyed

    Okay, help me out here…………………..isn’t that pretty much the very definition of a good businessman?

  298. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 4, 2012 at 7:12

    Still mourning for Jaco…

    No regrets, Coyote.
    .

  299. Snorghagen said,

    November 4, 2012 at 7:19

    Frum predicts a wingnut freakout if O wins

    So Frum’s argument is…
    a] the Republican Party is stump-humping insane
    b] the Republican Party will wreck the country if it becomes powerful enough to do so
    c] the only way to prevent the Republican Party from gaining power is to elect the Republican Party’s candidate for President

    Truly, we are living in the Golden Age of incredibly stupid justifications for doing incredibly stupid things.

    - – - – -

    Somewhat related…
    I don’t have the stomach to go to wingnut sites to check this out, but evidently most of them still believe without question that Romney is about to win in a landslide. If the election turns out the way it looks like it’s going to turn out, their reactions should be interesting.

    James Fallows has some comments on this stuff.

  300. Smut Clyde said,

    November 4, 2012 at 7:45

    Vice President Big Pussy?
    Evidently Politico have redefined Ryan from maverick mountain man to “a bookish insider”. OWWWW.

  301. Another Kiwi said,

    November 4, 2012 at 7:53

    That’s gotta sting. Does he have time for a Sexay Librarian photoshoot? Didn’t they try that with the other goofball VP candidate?

  302. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 4, 2012 at 8:04

    Out my door within four wimpy little blocks there’s a Mexican torta place, good pizza, an Italian sandwich place, fine French, a Malay place, Belgian beer place, two Thai places, a few Chinese, crepes and ice-cream, a Dutch breakfast place, an East-European bakery, a hippie bakery, Greek, pho, a pub with dope-smoking area out back…

  303. Suezboo said,

    November 4, 2012 at 12:07

    You guys are making me so jealous. Even bbkf. We have 2 steakhouse-type neighbourhood eateries, a pizza joint whose stuff is edible, to be complimentary, and several Fine Dining (like raspberrry jus and quail eggs) establishments for the rich tourists and one Belgian which I haven’t tried.
    OTOH, we have the best wineries in the country and a Belgian chocolatier so we veer wildly between posh for the tourists and inadequate for normal people.
    When I get a visitor from the Big City (Cape Town approx. 2 hours away), I always beg for Chinese takeaways.I didn’t realise how much I would miss food variety when I relocated.Sigh.

  304. Suezboo said,

    November 4, 2012 at 12:08

    Oh gawd, also, too – bagels and bread varieties.

  305. El Manquecito said,

    November 4, 2012 at 15:08

    Well I knew all y’all are city folks. Within a mile of either of my houses there is NOTHING.

  306. W. Kiernan said,

    November 4, 2012 at 16:00

    Within a mile of either of my houses there is NOTHING.

    I’ll bet there are edible plants and fungi, and small animals you can catch and cook.

  307. N__B said,

    November 4, 2012 at 16:19

    I’ll bet there are edible plants and fungi, and small animals unemployed hominids you can catch and cook.

    Fiqqst for a Romney win.

  308. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 17:12

    @ Revolta; No. That’s a corporate raider. I’m a businessman. I go to work and do stuff. I look out for the future of my company and worry about keeping my people employed. I pay myself a salary and put the rest back into the business. I want socialized medicine so that I don’t have to pay for it, which puts me at an automatic disadvantage against one of my competitors. In other words, I’m a citizen first, profit seeking entrepreneur second.
    Mitt Romney and his ilk are no different than the Gotti family.

  309. Snorghagen said,

    November 4, 2012 at 17:15

    unemployed hominids you can catch and cook.

    That’s not so easy. They’re surprisingly nimble.

  310. N__B said,

    November 4, 2012 at 17:16

    What tsam said.

    Also, my salary and my partner’s salary are all of 110% of that of our most highly paid employee and less than twice that of our lowest paid employee.

  311. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 17:19

    Within a mile of my apartment: one absolutely fantastic Asian restaurant. A subway, Taco Bell, jack in the box, senior froggy’s, McDonald’s, KFC, and zips, a regional burger place. This is a perfect microcosm of Spokane. We have a few fantastic restaurants and a vast array of shit.

  312. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 17:22

    Also, my salary and my partner’s salary are all of 110% of that of our most highly paid employee and less than twice that of our lowest paid employee.

    Ours is very close to that too, though my partner makes quite a bit more than I do, which is using to fund his retirement so he can leave without debt loading the company.

  313. N__B said,

    November 4, 2012 at 17:25

    Ours is very close to that too, though my partner makes quite a bit more than I do, which is using to fund his retirement so he can leave without debt loading the company.

    When I set up the corporation, I was on an egalitarian kick. All shareholders are by definition equal, with equal numbers of shares and equal pay, shares are priced at $1 so buying in or cashing out is meaningless, and all decisions must be unanimous among shareholders. It encourages cooperation, IMO.

  314. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 17:34

    I’m coming into ownership from being an employee. The owner I replaced was an equal shareholder. My buy-in is my partner’s buy out. We’re both focused on retiring without destroying the company. We’re both very even tempered (when it comes business) and share the same values and business philosophy. We’re very lucky in that respect. You’re right though, buying out shares or cashing out should be done the way you have done it.

  315. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 17:38

    Also, the very idea of telling my employees how to vote with not-so-veiled threats about their jobs if they vote the wrong way makes me want to fucking puke. I know it’s free speech, though it walks the voter intimidation line, but if I had a boss who did that to me, I might torch his house or something. That’s fascism. Be a good nazi and vote for the party…

  316. N__B said,

    November 4, 2012 at 18:05

    We have an open office – one room, eight people – and there’s a constant running conversation. The only place I insist on my opinion is making fun of Uggs, otherwise we agree or we don’t.

  317. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 4, 2012 at 18:28

    Out my door,,,

    Nice. Did I mention that I live in the burbs? Off the main drag but still within four blocks, we also have a briyani place, nestled between a fish market and an Islamic centre, next door to a Greek cafe, another sleazy bar and then a fish n chips shop. With pretty authentic (cheap and spiced to hide that fact) briyani, authentically Islamic Islamics and authentically sleazy sleaze. I’ve never been in the Greek place because I have no idea what they serve other than triangle circle squiggle squiggle. And that little strip mall is four actual blocks away, not four of the Scarberia style half kilometer blocks.

  318. DAS said,

    November 4, 2012 at 19:17

    I am really glad my workplace has reopened because I am actually starting to do crazy stuff like think about Matt Y’s econ 101 B- essay attempt of a column. I have actually realized he may have half a point — place a gummint ration or otherwise have a supply limit and people will start queuing up for the product because they don’t know when they will get it again, etc. However, raise the price and people won’t bother. The problem is that this insight about human behavior is just another piece of evidence that homo sapiens is NOT homo economicus. Which rather undermines MattY’s beloved econ 101 mindset, doesn’t it?

  319. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 4, 2012 at 19:18

    Also, the very idea of telling my employees how to vote with not-so-veiled threats about their jobs if they vote the wrong way makes me want to fucking puke.

    The self-regard of these motherfuckers is amazing. They genuinely don’t realize that if every last one of them was stuffed aboard a rusty old ocean liner, towed out to sea and sunk, no one would miss a dollar or a job.

    On my way home from work I’m treated to the sight of a tractor-trailer parked so that the message on its side is clearly visible from the tollway: “OUR FAMILY BUILT THIS BUSINESS WITH NO HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT.” Punchline: It’s an excavation business whose major, if not only, work comes from road projects.

  320. Pupienus, Doctor of Anathematics said,

    November 4, 2012 at 19:29

    HAHAHAHAHA There’s an Asian “fusion” place and a Vietnamese joint in the neighborhood. Also a couple very good food carts – Thai, Oregon seafood and vegetarian joint, and a guy who makes fantastic grilled tri-tip subs and burgers and shit. Oh, a bento place. BUT with a 10 minute ride on the streetcar (which I get on after a 20 second walk) there are a couple hundred food carts with good to excellent just about anything. Not to mention all the brick and mortar restaurants. Gawddamn this is a great place for a foodie.

    I won’t mention the fabulous local wines, or that Portland is also known as “Beervana” and just forget about distillery row.

    HAHAHAHAHAHA suck it beotches!

  321. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 19:40

    I had a carpenter tell me that he wishes Donald dump would have made the nomination. Of course I laughed and said “Gud 1, bro”, to which he replied “I’m SERIOUS”. I thought, “self, don’t go down this road, you’re clearly talking to a developmentally disabled butthole”. But self didn’t listen. Instead, he threw out a suspicious, if disgusted “why? He’s a fucking psycho.”
    Carpenter guy (self employed) replied with a summary of dump’s tax plan, which was a sort of graduated scale by income that ends about 10% for the richest of Americans. I asked how he intended to pay for that. By reducing spending, of course. I rattled off a list of government funded schools, public facilities, hospitals, and other jobs from which I knew he had been paid to paid to provide work. He just pooked at me with the sort of blank stare that a Middle Ages peasant might give you if you were showing them how a cell phone or airplane works. He grabbed his shit and left. I had a sad.

  322. N__B said,

    November 4, 2012 at 19:41

    I had a sad.

    I try to always leave some sad on the plate for the next person.

  323. tigris said,

    November 4, 2012 at 19:41

    You forgot to add how badly Portland sux so nobody should move there.

  324. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 4, 2012 at 19:49

    From this morning’s local rag:

    “I have already voted for Romney. I am a believer of small government, and the current administration believes in more government–it’s getting out of control,” the retired park district employee said.

    I have to go repeatedly slam my face against my desk now.

  325. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 19:53

    Rethuglican Taliban tactic #223: If a non-partisan report undermines the claims that are central to your economic policies, suppress it rather than rebut it.

  326. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 4, 2012 at 20:00

    BUT with a 10 minute ride on the streetcar

    Must I go another block? TWO?

  327. N__B said,

    November 4, 2012 at 20:00

    Shall I eat a peach?

  328. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 20:01

    I try to always leave some sad on the plate for the next person.

    I was really hungry after witnessing a man so cravenly stabbing himself in the eye. The saddest part is this; let’s say all these asshole repigs get their way. Tiny government, some states trying, others just giving up. Who would these assholes blame? Same people they blame now. Unions, socialists, liberals, non-whites, gays…so sadly ignorant.

  329. tigris said,

    November 4, 2012 at 20:06

    FWIW, state government employment grew under Romney (link). The original drop in Romney’ first year was from the implementation of Jane Swift’s policies, once Romney was making policy it grew every year, and it grew faster than the private sector in the state over the same period (link).

  330. VCarlson said,

    November 4, 2012 at 20:08

    I have to go repeatedly slam my face against my desk now.

    That’s one of the terrifying things about the current crop of “conservatives.” This kind of diconnect between their personal reality and the talking points they echo is frightening. Have the Robber Barons perfected a stupid ray? Is my insistence on using the printed word for my news and my horrified avoidance of Fox and Winger sites all that stands between me and a drastic decrease in my ability to reason? Inquiring mind wants to know. Maybe.

  331. sparks said,

    November 4, 2012 at 20:11

    Friend showed me a Jaco instructional video some years ago. First thing I said after it finished, “I’m surprised he lived as long as he did”.

  332. VCarlson said,

    November 4, 2012 at 20:20

    And I highlighted the wrong bit to quote about wingers demanding the gov’t keep its hands off their Medicare.

    I’d like to add to the side discussion of things about Portland that should be kept quiet is that one of the things I found charming about the place when visiting my sister and her family (other than the excellence – and otherwise – of the beer available) was the scattering of small parks throughout featuring water fountains designed to be played in. That were being played in (in summer).

  333. VCarlson said,

    November 4, 2012 at 20:34

    FWIW, state government employment grew under Romney (link).

    I remember reading a post by someone during The Dim Son’s reign in which the poster went to census data (which, btw, is not going to be nearly as useful or informative in future, thanks to budget cuts. And only the Feds have the resources to collect hat kind of data) and historical budgets and showed a very strong pattern of government size and budget increasing under Rs and the opposite under Ds. A really quick search just now turned this up:
    http://thegreatrecession.info/blog/deficits-debts-democrats-vs-republicans-us-national-debt-graphs-year-president/

  334. Smut Clyde said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:00

    water fountains designed to be played in.

    The Doktorling Sonja MADE me do it. Wasn’t my idea.

  335. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:19

    There were some nice walk-in fountains in Ukraine.

  336. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:20

    Old, but from a guy who does some interesting stuff:

    http://waxy.org/2011/09/geeks_guide_to_portland_2011/

  337. N__B said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:28

    Thanks to the NYC marathon being postponed, the city is full of unhappy marathoners from all over. In the words of Carlin, fuck them. I’m twice the size of those ectomorphic freaks and I’ll match my caffeine and general distemper up against their carbo-loaded rage any day.

  338. Snorghagen said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:36

    Within 30 yards of my front door there’s a five-star French restaurant with convenient drive-through service, a Chinese place that specializes in little-known Tang Dynasty recipes that were served only to the Imperial family, an Italian eatery that features nightly Roman food orgies complete with vomitoriums, a barbecue joint that serves Grade Quadruple-A Kobe beef brisket that’s been slow cooking for twelve years, as well as 483 superb Thai diners, 212 magnificent Indian restaurants, 89 internationally admired Greek diners, 957 astounding Tex-Mex outlets, and a Moldavian pancake house. I, however, patronize none of them and will eat only the very finest semi-thawed breaded generic fish pucks from the frozen food section.

  339. CRA said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:40

    Who would these assholes blame? Same people they blame now. Unions, socialists, liberals, non-whites, gays…so sadly ignorant.

    Yup. It’s surreal to hear some of the weakest links clamoring for a harsher world. Conservative pols and pundits blow smoke up the asses of their rank-and-file, telling them that they are the cream of the crop, and the suckers believe it. Of course they’d all get cool jobs in a Romney economy! Why, half of them would become entrepreneurs …

    I like the idea of small business, but in the political sphere, ineptitude is an inconvenient truth. At any given time, a big portion of small businesses are failing at some rate, or limping along one crisis away from failure. Every one of those “entrepreneurs,” however, is hosed down with rhetoric about how well they’d be doing if only the govt. would do / not do X, Y, or Z. No politician is going to tell the guy who owns and runs the town’s shittiest restaurant “sir, I want your vote and donations, but the problem is not govt., it’s you. Your enterprise is doomed to fail, and I’d be insane to seek your opinion about how to run this town.”

  340. DAS said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:42

    Isn’t the marathon a cash cow for the city? I don’t understand why they postponed it. Because people from Staten Island whined? They always do that. Not to minimize thevery real damages there, but considering a Noreaster of the sort that happens EVERY F ING YEAR is enough to cause widespread power outages on Staten Island, I’d say they actually got off easy compared to say Breezy Point.

    Relatedly, what’s with New York being thrown by regular or predictable occurances? It isn’t just this storm. NYers seem to be mystified everytime it snows. Heck,NY drivers seem puzzled every time someone slows down to look for parking. The NYC area gets more rain than SoCal. Yet after Floyd, Irene and now Sandy, which metro area is more prepared for a storm? When LaLa land is more prepared than you are, you should realize you gots a problem! / recovering SoCal ian moved to the NYC are

  341. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:42

    Twitter was all lot up with marathon runni g freaks crying about the cancellation. Some of them called New Yorkers soft. Apparently when it rains New York, you guys forget who it’s REALLY about. Shame on you.

  342. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:45

    It may be a cash cow, but it requires a massive dedication of city resour es and employees that are a bit busy at the moment.

  343. Major Kong said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:51

    For your viewing pleasure I give you:

    Cat riding in a Desoto.

    http://i45.tinypic.com/5v869.jpg

  344. Smut Clyde said,

    November 4, 2012 at 21:53

    Twitter was all lot up with marathon runni g freaks crying about the cancellation.

    Ah, they want government support. Can’t they build their own run?
    I was not previously aware that NYC had a monopoly on 26 miles of consecutive road.

  345. Smut Clyde said,

    November 4, 2012 at 22:00

    He just pooked at me
    You say that like it’s a bad thing.

  346. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 4, 2012 at 22:02

    My bag contains two fortified cities and ten towns, two alchemical alembics, four chess players, a mare and two foals, a stallion and two geldings, two long lances, two hares, a buggered boy and two pimps, a blind man and two far-seeing men, a lame man and two paralytics, a sea captain, a ship with sailors, a Christian priest and two deacons, a patriarch and two monks, and a kadi and two witnesses ready to swear that this bag is my bag.

  347. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 4, 2012 at 22:06

    Obama might be as awful as the vultures who ran Bain!

  348. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 4, 2012 at 22:10

    If I were in NY and they were running the marathon, I think I’d be kind of pissed.

  349. Major Kong said,

    November 4, 2012 at 22:12

    I wonder if it has to do with all the police support that the marathon requires.

    I’m guessing the NYPD has better things to do with their time right about now.

  350. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 22:32

    When the lights are all back on, displaced people in something that can reasonably called shelter, kids back in school, gas stations back to capacity, subways drained and running, then you creepy weirdos can have your little race.

  351. John Revolta said,

    November 4, 2012 at 22:34

    Cheers, you guys, and thanks. Obviously I was snarking a bit and meant no offense. But it seems like the only voices I ever hear from your side of the desk are the Randriods’ and similar idiots. And that’s a pity.

    Also, having known Jaco a bit from playing around the East Village, I’m surprised he lived as long as he did too. Man made pissing people off into an art.

  352. tsam said,

    November 4, 2012 at 22:35

    I’m guessing the NYPD has better things to do with their time right about now.

    They could pepperspray the runners. At least that would be entertaining, and the runners probably aren’t protesters standing on a sidewalk.

  353. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 4, 2012 at 22:49

    Please feel free to AHEM me if this has already been posted.

    Caution: Do not click if you’re feeling head-bangy.

  354. DAS said,

    November 4, 2012 at 23:01

    Yes, we do have a shortage of peoplepower here in NYC to deal with our current crisis. But I have an idea: we have millions of unemployed people in this country; how about the feds PAY people to come to the NYC area to get stuff done and also build infrastructure to prevent future flooding, etc? I even have catchy abbreviations for these two programs: the WPA and the CCC. Maybe instead of having Christine Quinn begging for volunteers in a Sat night presser, we could try to pay people to work instead? Who knows … it might help the economy and hence help increase tax revenues and help pay down the debt in the long run?

  355. Smut Clyde said,

    November 4, 2012 at 23:43

    My bag contains…

    Worst riddle EVAH.

  356. Major Kong said,

    November 4, 2012 at 23:45

    But I have an idea: we have millions of unemployed people in this country; how about the feds PAY people to come to the NYC area to get stuff done and also build infrastructure to prevent future flooding, etc?

    You mean the invisible hand of the free market won’t take care of this if we just get big government out of the way?

  357. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 23:54

    Cat riding in a Desoto.

    [font=IMPACT]Jeebus Chrysler, It’s A Lion! Good thing I’m in the car.[/font]

  358. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 4, 2012 at 23:56

    this bag is my bag
    this bag is your bag
    from the drawstring aglets
    to the floor seam stitching
    this bag was made for you and me

  359. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 5, 2012 at 0:14

    Must read from Ted Frier at They Gave Us A Republic:

    And Republicans call Obama radical?

    What stands out about all these Republican positions is that, looked at another way, they are not about economics at all but rather are the psychological manifestations of white survivalist fears – political positions you’d expect from people who are hunkering down in their bunkers, overcome by their primitive terrors of changing demographics that challenge the historic dominance of white Christians, and white Christian conservatives in particular.

    Conservative attempts to paint President Obama as a radical leftist are “a myth,” says John Avlon, former speechwriter for Rudy Giuliani. Such character assassination is the result “of hate-fueled hyper-partisan projection” much more than President Obama’s actual policies or record.

    In a more sane age, says Avlon, the fact that Obama embraced health care ideas proposed by the conservative Heritage Foundation and put in place by a Republican Governor would have been seen as triangulation and bi-partisanship. “But with President Obama, it is reflexively viewed as socialist instead of centrist,” says Avlon, who adds: “This says more about Obama’s overheated opponents than his presidency.”

    The title is priceless: “No Negotiating with Republican Terrorists”

    And the fact that operatives like Avlon make such accurate characterizations of their constituents implies that the GOP *knows* they’re pandering to a bunch of proto-fascists, and therefore their lies and projections are intentional.

    Mother. Fuckers.

  360. Nym said,

    November 5, 2012 at 0:59

    To be honest, I thought the streets might still have too much debris and water (from clogged drains) to hold the marathon.

  361. CRA said,

    November 5, 2012 at 1:04

    “a buggered boy and two pimps”

    That’s at least one pimp too many.

  362. Spearhafoc said,

    November 5, 2012 at 1:14

    I don’t have access to my computer right now so I can’t make a link very easily, but Bloomberg News is reporting that Romney did indeed pay zero taxes in ten years thanks to a tax shelter called a “CRUT”.

    Shocking, I know.

  363. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 1:14

    Heh. The Truth, masquerading as “Jaspub,” over at Baby Blue Satan:

    “Here is why Obama is a goner: Back in 2008 when Obamamania was sweeping the world and he had EVERYTHING going for him including Sarah Palin, he managed to get 53% of the electorate. Meaning that if just 4 out of every 100 Obama voters has buyers remorse or simply isn’t motivated to vote, BO loses. Very simple to see and understand. Who has the enthusiasm this time? Romney machine will make the McCain turnout look just sick. Also, you really think the Tea Party has somehow just vanished from the face of the earth? Not a chance. They have gone “underground” so to speak and are going to play a HUGE role on Tuesday. Remember, you heard it here first!!”
    .

  364. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 1:34

    Also… while I’m fixin’ the door today, Larry and Curly are curiously, tentatively getting closer to the open door. I didn’t stop them. Curly hung back, but L.E. finally made it outside, and immediately ran down the steps. Before I am done installing the new deadbolt (and I wish I had thought to grab the phone to video-record this!), he’s at the bottom level, HOLLERING with lung strength I would NEVER have guessed any cat could have. This is what Kim meant when she said he was “raisin’ hell.” No shit. That’s one loud cat!

    That’s no cat — it’s a dragon!
    .

  365. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 1:42

    Guess I should bookmark that mathematically challenged prediction, eh?

  366. DAS said,

    November 5, 2012 at 1:50

    Btw, I think my B- grade is too generous. MattY actually doesn’t fully seem to understand the law of supply and demand. The gas lines may obscure this fact, but demand for gas was down due to people not driving so much during the storm. So that prices didn’t go down indicates that the demand curve has already shifted upward.

  367. Smut Clyde said,

    November 5, 2012 at 1:52

    This is what Kim meant when she said he was “raisin’ hell.” No shit. That’s one loud cat!

    Any attempt to describe Siamese vocal performance will eventually enter the territory of Don Martin sound effects.

  368. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 1:54

    Any attempt to describe Siamese vocal performance will eventually enter the territory of Don Martin sound effects.

    His indoor voice is somewhere between a cat and a strangled baby, but it is never even 1/10th the volume of what I heard come out of him, today.
    .

  369. tigris said,

    November 5, 2012 at 1:57

    I guess “Remember, you heard it here first” is the new “Bookmark this, liberals”

  370. N__B said,

    November 5, 2012 at 2:16

    It came to me in a dream: NYC has power outages and a surplus of frustrated runners. SEND HAMSTER WHEELS!

  371. Smut Clyde said,

    November 5, 2012 at 2:20

    JP has a Siamese with an indoor voice!
    I am adding that to my $mas gift registry.

  372. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 2:25

    JP has a Siamese with an indoor voice!

    He’s a mix. Unless you look closely, he seems to be an applehead meezer. But he has some tabby in him, too. It’s subtle, but the markings are unmistakable.
    .

  373. Snorghagen said,

    November 5, 2012 at 2:40

    (Tea Party members) have gone “underground”

    I see that Obama’s Death Panels have been hard at work.

  374. Major Kong said,

    November 5, 2012 at 2:54

    That’s one loud cat!

    Patches doesn’t normally make much noise.

    However, if another cat comes anywhere near her territory, she will make a noise like a woman screaming. The first time I heard it I thought the lady next door was being murdered.

  375. Smut Clyde said,

    November 5, 2012 at 3:00

    Our dude is more of the wedgehead persuasion.

  376. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 3:11

    Our dude is more of the wedgehead persuasion.

    Naw. Looks like classic applehead! The wedgeheads look strangely non-catlike.
    .

  377. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 3:43

    Wedgehead.
    .

  378. VCarlson said,

    November 5, 2012 at 3:44

    Naw. Looks like classic applehead! The wedgeheads look strangely non-catlike

    A little pointier than I think of as classic applehead, but not wedgehead. The wedgeheads look, to me, as though you could use their heads as forms for a railroad spike, and their bodies as forms for the rest of the spike.

    I also have no good words to say for the breeders of persians. Anyone who thinks a cat that looks as though its face is being forcibly pressed against a pane of glass is A Good Thing doesn’t actually like cats. I used to own a Himalayan (“inherited” her from my mom and stepdad when they moved into a no-pets condo), which are basically Persians with Siamese markings. She was born in 1976, and she was not the extreme that Persians are today. She had a short face, but her muzzle actually stuck out, and she had no trouble breathing, and her eye ducts worked properly, too. She, in short, had the adaptations to a cold climate that defined her breed, no more.

  379. Nym said,

    November 5, 2012 at 3:48

    You’d think they’d look at the insanities of dog breeders and have more sense than to emulate them, but Sadly, No!

  380. VCarlson said,

    November 5, 2012 at 3:51

    There must be money in it, and a bunch of people who don’t actually like dogs/cats, but look on them as potential income streams. Seems to be a trend.

  381. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 4:14

    Well, once they are born, they must be loved. Both my guys came from rescue shelters, and they decidedly picked me, rather than the other way ’round.
    ,

  382. Spearhafoc said,

    November 5, 2012 at 4:17

    My cat wandered into our house on a rainy night after we left the front door open.

  383. CRA said,

    November 5, 2012 at 4:23

    Heh. The Truth, masquerading as “Jaspub,” over at Baby Blue Satan:

    [Obama] managed to get 53% of the electorate. Meaning that if just 4 out of every 100 Obama voters has buyers remorse or simply isn’t motivated to vote, BO loses. Very simple to see and understand.

    Christ, he got the math wrong in several ways … it may be “very simple to see and understand,” but it’s too much for him/her.

  384. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 4:36

    My cat wandered into our house on a rainy night after we left the front door open.

    Expedience delivers many a fine pairing, no doubt.
    .

  385. tensor said,

    November 5, 2012 at 4:57

    Christ, he got the math wrong in several ways … it may be “very simple to see and understand,” but it’s too much for him/her.

    MATH IS THEFT

    Teabaggers are our best living exemplars of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  386. Smut Clyde said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:06

    he got the math wrong in several ways

    Hey, the point of trolling is to put less effort into formulating one’s claims than the trollee puts into refuting them.

  387. VCarlson said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:06

    My cat wandered into our house on a rainy night after we left the front door open.

    Remarkably like the way I got SAM (or he me). I was renting a condo, and had an extra panel locked into the slider, in which was a cat door. I’d installed it primarily at the insistence of one of my former cats (Spunky, the Himalayan, who was a mighty hunter – really – the rodent population took a hit with her around), who had recently died at 18 1/2, followed by my male, Chewie (a DLH with seal point markings) who fell behind a bookcase and died at 13. This left me with Peabody, a black female I and some others had rescued as a tiny kitten dodging traffic.

    I’d come home, see black cat in living room, close cat door, go into bedroom, see Peabody, realize black cat in LR wasn’t she, go back and open cat door. This happened a few times, until one nasty, raw night, when he was obviously suffering from a bad cold. I decided he might live or die, but he’d do it in warmth and comfort. He recovered, and when he let me handle him, he went to the vet’s for his checkup and Operation. He developed asthma later.

    But in the meantime, SAM took on the raising of a tiny kitten rescued from the ivy at work, eyes just open, ears still little flaps. He taught Marlowe How To Be A Cat, and they were best buds until he died when he was about 13 (and about 6 months after Peabody died at 19 1/2) and Marlowe (my present Siamese cross) was 10. I got Nani Wai from the vet’s, one of a litter from a pregnant cat one of the techs had rescued when Marlowe was 11. She has about the same attitude towards Nani that Peabody had towards her (interloper! pest!), with about the same age difference. Whatever. It keeps them (and me) entertained.

  388. Major Kong said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:15

    My cat wandered into our house on a rainy night after we left the front door open.

    Mine jumped up on my shoulders at the animal shelter.

  389. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:18

    Mine jumped up on my shoulders at the animal shelter.

    That’s what happened with me & LarryElvis. And it’s still his favorite spot, six years later.

    Curly licked my thumb through the bars of the cage he was in, and once I got the staff to let him out, he followed me through a room with 30-some other cats in it, like a dog. He definitely picked me.
    .

  390. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:28

    I’ve had Curly for 9.5 years. He’s still my favorite.
    .

  391. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:32

    They can read you know.

  392. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:34

    Curly, btw, was once issued a proclamation by the mayor of Kansas City, MO, declaring “Curly’s Day.” He got an official certificate an’ everythang!
    .

  393. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:38

    See? I shat thee not.
    .

  394. CRA said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:51

    “Hey, the point of trolling is to put less effort into formulating one’s claims than the trollee puts into refuting them.”–Smut Clyde

    Looks like I win this time, because I resisted explaining how that person got stuff wrong … It’s hard for me, because I am a pedant of the darkest dye.

  395. Smut Clyde said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:58

    I am a pedant of the darkest dye.

    FULIGIN.

  396. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 6:00

    I am a pedant of the darkest dye.

    The pedant is NEAR!
    .

  397. CRA said,

    November 5, 2012 at 6:03

    This could have been excised: “because I resisted explaining how that person got stuff wrong”

    Fuliginous is a good word. Not sure about “fuligin”

  398. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 6:06

    Fuliginous is a good word. Not sure about “fuligin”

    Perfect cromulence.
    .

  399. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 5, 2012 at 6:18

    For some, teh botanicals are a bit much. But even then, it’s not bad to be fulligin.

  400. VCarlson said,

    November 5, 2012 at 6:27

    Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 5, 2012 at 5:38

    See? I shat thee not.

    Indeed, you did not. Great story, and I have great respect for your Mayor, too. Sniff.

  401. Smut Clyde said,

    November 5, 2012 at 6:31

    teh botanicals
    I believe teh word is ‘simples’; and
    “…to attain their highest virtues they must be pulled from grave soil by moonlight. It will frost soon and kill everything, but our masters require supplies for the winter.”

  402. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 5, 2012 at 6:42

    Yikes. This is why I drink bourbon.

  403. Pupienus, Doctor of Anathematics said,

    November 5, 2012 at 6:59

    “…to attain their highest virtues they must be pulled from grave soil by moonlight.

    Well of course, otherwise it’s NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPHECY!

  404. Pupienus, Doctor of Anathematics said,

    November 5, 2012 at 7:00

    Fuliginous is a good word. Not sure about “fuligin”

    It is on some Urths.

  405. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 5, 2012 at 10:03

    It is on some Urths.

    Ain’t that the truth… and penitence.

  406. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 5, 2012 at 17:18

    I bought champagne for yesterday, ‘cuz I am totally where this little girl is. Just want it be over. And I want to be drunk.

  407. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 5, 2012 at 17:26

    So, if the repukes lose tomorrow, do you think anyone in the party will reflect and decide to be less toxically wingnutty? I think there’s zero chances of that happening. I’m betting on a triple down.

    Also, violence.

  408. Homer said,

    November 5, 2012 at 17:26

    Mmmmmmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,pizza,,,,,,,,,,,,, beer,,,,,,,,

  409. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 5, 2012 at 17:27

    All’s I know is that 23 people spread out all over the country doesn’t seem like much of a riot to me. Hell, it wouldn’t qualify as a rio. Or even a ri.

  410. CRA said,

    November 5, 2012 at 17:54

    Over the weekend, the Republicans left a message on our landline phone, instructing us to vote at the wrong place. The scam works like this:

    1. Conflate vanilla voting with in-person absentee voting.
    2. Call democrats registered in one city (Wauwatosa) and give them the address of the in-person absentee voting site in a different city (Milwaukee).

    These “mistakes” could trick a few Wauwatosans into driving to the Milwaukee Municipal Building, without absentee ballots they could submit there, without any means of acquiring appropriate absentee ballots at that site.

  411. DAS said,

    November 5, 2012 at 18:08

    Umm … wtf?

    For years beginning after December 31, 2012, you may deduct only the amount by which your total medical expenses exceed 10% of your adjusted gross income.

    (from http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc502.html)

    So we now are required to purchase health insurance AND they are decreasing the deductions allowed for said purchase? Why are Obama and/or the Congressional Dems letting this happen?

    Meanwhile my employer now expects me (by 2014 or so, it will be phased in) to kick in about 8% of my gross pay for my health insurance.

    I am sure if pressed, the governor would say “well you people paid by the state should have to contribute to your health insurance just like you would if you were worked in the private sector’. Well, excuse me, Mr. Gov. … if you want to pay me as much as I would get paid if I were in the private sector, you can then ask me to kick in some for health insurance. But I don’t get paid like a drug company scientist, our faculty dining hall ain’t as swanky as the dining halls are at big pharma, etc. So where do you get off cutting benefits?

  412. DAS said,

    November 5, 2012 at 18:10

    Over the weekend, the Republicans left a message on our landline phone, instructing us to vote at the wrong place. – CRA

    Do you have a recording of this? Maybe you could send it into the media, and they will pick up the story. Or you could send it to the justice department and they will investigate — after all, voting irregularities are a big deal nowadays.

    Wait a minute … whom am I kidding. The media won’t bite and anyway, IOKIYAR.

  413. CRA said,

    November 5, 2012 at 18:39

    “Do you have a recording of this?”

    My wife deleted the message. Who knows, maybe we’ll get another one.

  414. bbkf said,

    November 5, 2012 at 18:54

    the best thing about monday morning? leftovers from yesterday’s brunch…bad thing? a gooper ad playing incessantly on the airwaves featuring a kindly, concerned white dude who is bemoaning how this election season has ‘pitted neighbor against’ neighbor and has become increasingly louder with shrill rhetoric…but there’s hope! ‘in the quiet of the voting booth’…where you should ask yourself, ‘do i want to repeat the last four years?’ also, too…’you tried, obama tried…but nothing got fixed…but you can fix it…just pull the big red lever labeled g.o.p…it will be alright, soon…you’re beginning to feeeeeel veeeeeeeery sleeeeepy…’

  415. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 5, 2012 at 19:00

    Wow, wingnuts are trying to spin Obama’s reaction to Hurricane Sandy as equivalent to Bush’ handling of Katrina.

  416. DAS said,

    November 5, 2012 at 19:08

    Spearhoc … not surprised. After the initial realization that Obama did better than Bush, as we still have gas lines, power outages, etc. (and for only a storm equivalent to a Cat 1 hurricane … Cat 2 in terms of storm surge, maybe … albeit in terms of total energy deposited, one of the strongest ever) people no doubt are starting to wonder how much better Obama is than Bush and are starting to realize maybe he’s not good enough.

    But isn’t that the story of Obama’s presidency as a whole?

    In any case, between people saying (as the GOP’s latest ads are urging them to think) “we could do better, Obama just hasn’t done a good enough job” and the fact that many Obama voters are gonna have a tough time simply getting to the polls, we might see a Romney victory. Obviously, people can’t be expected to remember that Romney supports the same policies that got us into the mess we’re in. Heck, my students can’t be bothered to remember what they learned in the previous year of coursework.

    Of course, if Romney wins, no matter by how slim of a margin, the Village Authorized Spin on Even the Liberal Media will be how Obama over-stepped his mandate and that the ‘Murkin People want to have a more conservative president etc. Of course, if Obama wins, it will be a “narrow victory” emblematic of a divided American populace and an increasing influence of minorities (“how dare they have influence”), c.f. the Politico article people are quoting.

  417. DAS said,

    November 5, 2012 at 19:10

    Oh yes … the editorial cartoon is racist — the blog post doesn’t even get into the “Brownie” part. I know where it comes from (Bush’s quote), but still …

  418. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 19:45

    ChaCha Roo said,

    November 4, 2012 at 2:26 (kill)

    OBS, I went out and had a Chimay Cinq Cents this evening. Thread Bear made me go. It cost way more than five cents but it was worth it.

    Good for Thread Bear! I am ashamed to say I haven’t had that Chimay — I’ve only had the “red” and “blue” from them. I’ll have to track down a bottle and try it, the description sounds yummy.

  419. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 5, 2012 at 19:57

    Frum predicts a wingnut freakout if O wins

    If anything, an Obama re-election will not only aggravate the extremism of the congressional GOP, but also empower them: an Obama re-election raises the odds in favor of big sixth-year sweep for the congressional GOP – and very possibly a seventh-year impeachment.

    So, vote for the Republican or the Republicans will make you sorry?

  420. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:02

    Thanks to the NYC marathon being postponed, the city is full of unhappy marathoners from all over. In the words of Carlin, fuck them. I’m twice the size of those ectomorphic freaks and I’ll match my caffeine and general distemper up against their carbo-loaded rage any day.

    Hey, some of us are ectomorphic freaks WITH lots of caffeine and a general distemper to go right along with our carbo-loaded rage. Harumph.

    But yeah, not feeling real sorry for folks that missed out. Races get canceled. Because: reasons. Deal with it.

  421. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:02

    Frum predicts a wingnut freakout if O wins

    Frum could have looked so much smarter if he were a bit lazier. I guess it proves that the more a conservative says, the wrong-er he is..

  422. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:15

    Thanks to the NYC marathon being postponed, the city is full of unhappy marathoners from all over. In the words of Carlin, fuck them. I’m twice the size of those ectomorphic freaks and I’ll match my caffeine and general distemper up against their carbo-loaded rage any day.

    A sizable portion of them have joined in the relief effort.

  423. Major Kong said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:17

    Frum predicts a wingnut freakout

    Agreed. They’re terrible winners and worse losers.

  424. bbkf said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:18

    we might see a Romney victory.

    jesus, das! don’t be saying things like that…poor vs’ stomach!

  425. bughunter said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:19

    Frum could have looked so much smarter if he were a bit lazier.

    Politico has a story on this very topic.

    The fault lines are already clear: True-believers will say, see, this is what happens when you nominate moderates — John McCain lost in 2008 and Romney lost in 2012 because they couldn’t or wouldn’t make the case for conservatism.

    “Structurally, a Romney loss, following a McCain loss, would be a rebuke to moderates who have wanted ideological conservatives to fill the bus but not drive the bus,” said a GOP operative close to one sure-fire future presidential aspirant. “The nominee in 2016, if he is not a President Romney, will certainly be a card-carrying movement conservative with a track record to match.”

    The pragmatists will howl at this and point to the underlying issues in the electorate.

    “If I hear anybody say it was because Romney wasn’t conservative enough I’m going to go nuts,” said [Lindsay] Graham. “We’re not losing 95 percent of African-Americans and two-thirds of Hispanics and voters under 30 because we’re not being hard-ass enough.”

    It’s more stenographic than insightful, but at least it serves to bring the issue to the fore.

    NPR is running a similar story on Morning Edition, and even included the message that the more the voting population resembles the actual US population, the better the Democrats do… followed by a story about the early voting fiasco in S. Florida yesterday. NPR was all but coming out and saying that it’s in the GOP’s interest to make it as hard as possible to vote, especially in Democratic precincts.

  426. bughunter said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:22

    A sizable portion of them have joined in the relief effort.

    I’ve seen marathon runners. I don’t think you can make a sizeable portion out of any of them. You’d have to use two and add potatoes to make a hash or something.

  427. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:28

    I’ve seen marathon runners. I don’t think you can make a sizeable portion out of any of them. You’d have to use two and add potatoes to make a hash or something.

    They’re really good at running water bottles up the stairs to help housebound seniors living in high rises. They’re like… uh… skinny, hairless St Bernards.

  428. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:31

    I’ve seen marathon runners. I don’t think you can make a sizeable portion out of any of them. You’d have to use two and add potatoes to make a hash or something.

    Harumph. We’re just nice and lean so would need to be properly prepared. And you forgot the beer.

  429. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:33

    They’re really good at running water bottles up the stairs to help housebound seniors living in high rises. They’re like… uh… skinny, hairless St Bernards.

    I ….. can’t really deny that.

    And now I’m getting ideas about how to mix running in with a hi-rise craft beer delivery service. I’ll be rich!

  430. Pupienus, Doctor of Anathematics said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:34

    Harumph. We’re just nice and lean so would need to be properly prepared. And you forgot the beer.

    Stringy, lean meat is best braised. In beer.

  431. VCarlson said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:35

    NPR was all but coming out and saying that it’s in the GOP’s interest to make it as hard as possible to vote, especially in Democratic precincts.

    Were they giving pointers?

  432. Whale Chowder said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:44

    And now I’m getting ideas about how to mix running in with a hi-rise craft beer delivery service. I’ll be rich!

    and your beer will be all shook up. I’m seeing a small problem with your idea.

    Not to mention that there really aren’t all that many high-rises in Corvallis. Too.

  433. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:47

    and your beer will be all shook up. I’m seeing a small problem with your idea.

    Not to mention that there really aren’t all that many high-rises in Corvallis. Too.

    Aw, crap.

    I’ll just have to hope that nice fellow from Nigeria gets back to me soon I guess.

  434. gocart mozart said,

    November 5, 2012 at 20:57

    Muir has finally gone comlpetely insane.
    http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2012/11/04/#006727

  435. bughunter said,

    November 5, 2012 at 21:04

    skinny, hairless St Bernards

    With bloody nipples.

  436. kg said,

    November 5, 2012 at 21:10

    poor vs’ stomach!

    Who?

  437. Whale Chowder said,

    November 5, 2012 at 21:14

    Muir has finally gone comlpetely insane.

    “gone?”

  438. bbkf said,

    November 5, 2012 at 21:16

    Who?

    oh, snap…i s’pose i have to refer to her as drkennethnoiswater from now on…much more difficult to type…

    With bloody nipples.

    eck…just another of the myriad reasons why i do not run…although it can happen to kids on the farm as well…humorous story about a friend who was helping bale hay on his uncle’s farm one summer…lifting the bales caused much chafing on his first day…made the mistake of wearing a t-shirt to bed…ripped his nipples taking off said t-shirt…after about three days of baling hay with bandaids on his chest, they decided to go intertubing on the lake…yes, you guessed it…he laid on his stomach on the intertube…he claims his nipples were completely ripped off when he was flung off the tube…youch…

  439. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 5, 2012 at 21:21

    Just as in 1529 when the nigh unstoppable Ottoman empire exhausted its might trying to subjugate a ragtag disorganized rabble on their well prepared, easily defended, home ground, America finds itself in the same strategic situation. But Chris Muir, idiot that he is, isn’t talking about ending the imperial adventure in Afghanistan and Iraq and stopping the all but certain assault on Iran. He seems to think the re-election of Obama would be a capitulation to the forces of the Sultan, and a final end to the American Christian empire that he imagines exists.

  440. Smut Clyde said,

    November 5, 2012 at 21:30

    They’re like… uh… skinny, hairless St Bernards.
    Baldrick performed as a water caddy, but he doesn’t really fit that description.

  441. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 5, 2012 at 21:34

    They’re terrible wieners</blockquote?

    FIFY.

  442. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 5, 2012 at 21:38

    Ahhhhhh!

  443. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:03

    The pragmatists will howl at this and point to the underlying issues in the electorate.

    This is actually true, and I’m less of a pragmatist than an angry idealist. 90% of the reason this country is so fucked up is voter apathy and stupidity. So yes, having two perceived moderates in a row get beat by an OMG N****R is going to drive right wingers even further insane.

    This is why every time I hear this “both parties are broken, the system doesn’t represent me, shit sandwich or giant douche”, I reach for my Beretta. That’s a chickenshit, lazy fucking copout and people who say and act on that need to be pounded into mash.

  444. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:08

    “both parties are broken, the system doesn’t represent me, shit sandwich or giant douche”

    I think that’s true (and has been true for many elections), but I don’t think it has anything to do with how you can serve your interests with your vote.

  445. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:13

    I think that’s true (and has been true for many elections), but I don’t think it has anything to do with how you can serve your interests with your vote.

    Those fuckheads know that the bulk of the voting block is true believers and their bases. If the working poor and youth voted, campaigns would take an entirely different tack.

    I think the same thing is true myself. But dropping off the grid is just capitulation. Why concede the battle to the stupidest assholes in the country?

  446. gocart mozart said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:17

    Muir has finally gone comlpetely insane.

    “gone?”

    O.K. fine, “gone insanerer!” Happy now?

  447. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:19

    Additionally, what kind of pussy sits at home and lets America be overtaken by people who don’t even deserve to live here? The right wing is marching ever closer to outright fascism, and there is a large contingent of people who call that freedom. If nothing else, you should consider your one vote as one check against them.

    I don’t know. I just got insanely angry when some guy on NPR was talking about how many college students he encountered that said they weren’t voting because they were disappointed in Obama, or just thought everything was just all baaaad, man. Just way bad.

  448. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:25

    Why concede the battle to the stupidest assholes in the country?

    I agree, but another thing to take into account is that the votes lost to this are very few, and in an America where only 60% of the registered voters bother to show up there’s no special reason to get mad at people who throw their votes away. The chances are vanishingly small that anyone’s vote makes a difference.

    Of course in some places maybe there’s a reason to get pissy about it. One election the dirty filthy communist candidate I voted for lost by 200 votes; dirty filthy communist roommate came home that day and said “OOPS, FORGOT.”

  449. Whale Chowder said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:28

    Happy now?

    No, because I let you make me look at a Chris Muir “cartoon.” I hate you, almost as much as I hate myself.

    I am still holding out on the latest John McNaughton “artwork” so I can hold on to just the tiniest shred of dignity and self-respect.

  450. jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:31

    Muir has finally gone comlpetely insane.

    The Muir Tell:

    Women have faces & physiques that look human = doubleplusgoodthink bullshit being trowelled on triple thick.

  451. Pryme said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:31

    I think I have an idea for the next Star Wars movie.

  452. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:32

    So my stomach has been all knotty naughty like vacuumslayer TheTesticleFormerlyKnownAsVacuumslayer’s but this along with the soothing balm that is Nate Silver’s nerdy effeminate wonderfulness has me feeling cautiously positive.

    When the righty-tighty pundits/proxies are spending the day before the election saying “don’t blame me!” you have to take that as a good sign.

  453. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:32

    Muir has finally gone comlpetely insane.

    Did he get a new illustrator? The artwork looks nothing like it did last time I looked (more than two years ago). It’s as incoherent as ever, though.

  454. bughunter said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:40

    Were they giving pointers?

    No, but as Andrew Cohen reports, Rethuglicans in FL and OH don’t need any pointers.

  455. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:41

    The artwork looks nothing like it did last time I looked (more than two years ago).

    I think what’s different is the filtered medieval fortress. There’s less T&A though.

  456. gocart mozart said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:44

    “I am still holding out on the latest John McNaughton “artwork” so I can hold on to just the tiniest shred of dignity and self-respect.”

    You win.

  457. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 5, 2012 at 22:50

    So my stomach has been all knotty naughty like vacuumslayer TheTesticleFormerlyKnownAsVacuumslayer’s but this along with the soothing balm that is Nate Silver’s nerdy effeminate wonderfulness has me feeling cautiously positive.

    My stomach is a little less naughty today. 86 is an awfully good number.

    Of course, Republicans being Republicans, I’m still nervous.

  458. Pupienus said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:03

    Additionally, what kind of pussy sits at home and lets America be overtaken by people who don’t even deserve to live here

    Going through life apathetic and stupid is a great way raise the ire of the rest of us, son.

  459. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:08

    I dunno if you wanna be on Dean Wormer’s side.

  460. Pupienus said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:10

    I’m more than a bit concerned about Ohio, where sec state did an end run around the law installing “patches” on the no-audit-trail voting machines. The ones runny Tagg’s company, y’know? I am a wee bit astonished and majorly outraged that the overt vote tampering and voter suppression by the GOP isnt talked about ON THE FRONT FUCKING PAGES and THE FUCKING LAMESTREAM MEDIA.

    I’m ready to put those motherfuckers up against the wall.

  461. bbkf said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:11

    but this along with the soothing balm that is Nate Silver’s nerdy effeminate wonderfulness has me feeling cautiously positive.

    also, too…early polling shows the marriage amendment being defeated…still not uncrossing my fingers…

  462. Pupienus said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:11

    Yeah you too D-KW if you give me any shit.

    Mrfkngdmfknmrfkrs.

  463. bughunter said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:16

    So, the Rmoney has paid no taxes for the 15 years prior to 2010news that , and used the Mormon church as a shelter for his capital gains in order to accomplish this “legally,” has been out for almost a week.

    It’s why he won’t release his returns. He knows it would have ruined his chances to win the election if it had become widespread knowledge.

    But has the media been talking about this for the past six days??

    Looks like Sandy worked in Mitt’s favor after all.

  464. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:18

    Additionally, what kind of pussy sits at home and lets America be overtaken by people who don’t even deserve to live here

    I’m having a hard time coming up with a group that fits that description. Who is he talking about? People who don’t deserve to live here? We got a sign on the big statue in New York harbor talking about how we welcome the tired, the poor, the wretched refuse, so clearly they are welcome and deserve a shot at the American Dream. Criminals? Georgia began as a penal colony, and their descendants are as American as anyone. War criminals? We brought them over by the boatload in Operation Paperclip just after World War II. Billionaire reactionaries? Rupert Murdoch is one of us these days. Back people? We brought them over by the boatload back when they didn’t have a choice in the matter, and hundreds of years later we collectively decided they could be Americans too. A hundred years after that, we even decided we meant it. Who the hell doesn’t deserve to live here?

  465. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:19

    I agree, but another thing to take into account is that the votes lost to this are very few, and in an America where only 60% of the registered voters bother to show up there’s no special reason to get mad at people who throw their votes away. The chances are vanishingly small that anyone’s vote makes a difference.

    I agree too, but the difference between 60% and 90% is astonishingly large. I’m angry that people just don’t show up. What if we got down around 25%? Would Congress maybe decide that this turnout doesn’t meet the criteria for being a mandate? Do we then look at Congress getting involved like they would for an electoral tie? Why is there an even number of electoral votes anyway? Do these khakis make my butt look big?

    2008 turnout (a HUGE year)
    Registered: 230,872,030
    Turned out: 132,653,958
    Percentage: 62.2%

    90% of that same registered figure would be 207,784,827, a difference of 75,130,869 votes! That’s INSANE!

  466. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:19

    Source that I neglected to cite…

  467. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:22

    Who the hell doesn’t deserve to live here?

    Carrot Top.

  468. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:25

    The number here I almost but not-quite pulled out of my ass (but of course all kinds of stuff can fit in there). If Republicans would simply wage war on populous states and get less populous states in line they could win elections (by a bare margin) with an insanely low popular vote count.

    Which is as it should be, as the Founding Fathers created the Earth in seven days and split atoms and invented pornography.

  469. bbkf said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:30

    Which is as it should be, as the Founding Fathers created the Earth in seven days and split atoms and invented pornography.

    it’s just wrong that a canadian knows more about amurkin history than i do…

  470. N__B said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:33

    Say what you want about his disciplinary policies, but Dean Wormer had a hot wife.

  471. Whale Chowder said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:35

    Do these khakis make my butt look big?

    Since you’re somewhere in the neighborhood of my age, I can answer “yes” with some confidence.

  472. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:38

    Who the hell doesn’t deserve to live here?

    People who think that the rights of others are something they can give or take.

  473. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:38

    bughunter said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:16 (kill)

    So, the Rmoney has paid no taxes for the 15 years prior to 2010news that , and used the Mormon church as a shelter for his capital gains in order to accomplish this “legally,” has been out for almost a week.

    That story is far, far, far too complicated to gain traction. Sure, the headline could be “Reid was right: Rmoney paid no taxes” but the explanation for that is so convoluted and arcane no mainstream news source is willing to waste the extra time required to explain it. Because of the complexity, the GOP apologies would just say “Nuh, unh, did too! Nannynannypoopoo!” and ignore it. The story then becomes the typical screwed up “Democrats say water is wet, GOP experts differ” that our “media” lives for.

    Shorter me: our media sucks.

  474. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:39

    Honest question about the standard “does this make my butt look big question”: since when is that a bad thing?

  475. DAS said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:39

    Which is as it should be, as the Founding Fathers created the Earth in seven days and split atoms and invented pornography – Substance McG

    I heard Charles Osgood (I don’t remember him being so conservative in days gone by as he seems to be now) shilling for some or other show or product or something claiming that “our nation was founded by self-starters” who succeeded due to their own hard work, etc. Does he not realize our nation was founded by slave-holders (Jefferson, Washington, Madison) from a hereditary planter class as well as smugglers (Hancock), ne-er-do-wellers obsessed with political intrigue (Sam Adams) and the like?

  476. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:40

    apologies apologists

    Stupid fingers, type what I mean!

  477. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:40

    People who are actively trying to turn this nation into a theocracy.

  478. bbkf said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:41

    Honest question about the standard “does this make my butt look big question”: since when is that a bad thing?

    good answer…

  479. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:42

    … and the like?

    Don’t forget the drunkards!

    Drunkards, rapscallions and ne’er-do-wells. Oh my!

  480. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:42

    People who try to suppress voters and voter turnout.

    Basically, anyone who actively fucks with the system.

  481. bbkf said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:43

    claiming that “our nation was founded by self-starters” who succeeded due to their own hard work, etc

    i bet he also thinks mitten’s *earned* his own money…

  482. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:43

    Honest question about the standard “does this make my butt look big question”: since when is that a bad thing?

    Rmoney’s mom-jeans are waiting on hold on line two.

  483. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:43

    Does he not realize our nation was founded by slave-holders

    Not just slaveholders but leeches looking for government handouts.

  484. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:46

    Basically, anyone who actively fucks with the system.

    Shirley you meant “fucks with the system in a way meant to perpetuate and enhance the rule of our plutocratic/theocratic masters.”

    ‘Cause damn, the system could use some fucking up in several other ways..

  485. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:46

    Yeah you too D-KW if you give me any shit.

    Totes heterosexually, but what do you do with me once I am against the wall? And should I bring lube?

  486. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:49

    The number here

    That being the number THERE.

  487. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:50

    Shirley you meant “fucks with the system in a way meant to perpetuate and enhance the rule of our plutocratic/theocratic masters.”

    Of course. And don’t call me Shirley unless I’m in drag.

    If you can’t live within the system we have here, and need to oppress others to obtain your personal goals, you DO NOT deserve to live in a place that at least advertises itself as a free nation. We also happen to do a relatively good job of delivering on that promise when you stand back and look at the bigger picture–of course that’s not without some glaring exceptions, but generally we have it pretty damn good here, all in all.

  488. VCarlson said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:51

    On a somewhat related note, my paper reported with apparent approval that of 1,100 Republcan primary votes in the Laie region (a LDS enclave – they have a temple there), all but 83* voted for Rmoney. The message I got was that if you’re a Mormon voting for another Mormon because he is a Mormon is peachykeen and wonderful, but wimminz and blahs voting for wimminz and blahs is somehow lazy identity politics and somehow inferior.

    *Betcha someone’s working hard to find out just who those
    83 are, and make sure their business is avoided by all good LDS.

  489. bughunter said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:51

    OBS, it’s not that complicated to explain. “Romney avoided paying any taxes on all of his profits by promising to give LDS a small fraction of them… after he dies.”

    Or better yet, “Romney never paid taxes because he used a loophole that was outlawed in 1997.”

    If the media WANTED to cover it, they WOULD.

  490. tsam said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:52

    Bookmark this, liberals, as this is exactly how it is going to go down. You will be wonder how the hell I was able to call this.

    YOU HUSH YOUR MOUTH! OBUMMER WILL WIN THIS THING.

  491. Karl Rove said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:55

    Bookmark this, libs: Sometime after the cock crows on the morning of Nov. 7, Mitt Romney will be declared America’s 45th president. Let’s call it 51%-48%, with Mr. Romney carrying at least 279 Electoral College votes, probably more.

  492. Michael Barone said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:58

    Hey Libs, Bottom line: Romney 315, Obama 223. That sounds high for Romney. But he could drop Pennsylvania and Wisconsin and still win the election. Fundamentals.

  493. Glenn Beck said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:59

    Story on the blaze on all those who are now saying what I have said for a while: landslide for Romney. 321 electoral votes. And you can take that to the BANK, Libs.

  494. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:00

    bughunter said,

    November 5, 2012 at 23:51 (kill)

    OBS, it’s not that complicated to explain. “Romney avoided paying any taxes on all of his profits by promising to give LDS a small fraction of them… after he dies.”

    Or better yet, “Romney never paid taxes because he used a loophole that was outlawed in 1997.”

    I see your point, but I’ll raise you a “double taxation” talking head, a “Mr. Romney believes in strong charity support and wishes more people would act as unselfishly as he does.” campaign statement, and a very exciting shiny thing RIGHT OVER THERE!

    If the media WANTED to cover it, they WOULD.

    But reporting is hard!

    See also: … ooh, shiny!

  495. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:01

    People who think that the rights of others are something they can give or take.

    Like the slave owners that founded this country?

    People who are actively trying to turn this nation into a theocracy.

    Like the Puritans at Plymouth rock?

    People who try to suppress voters and voter turnout.

    Like the late Strom Thurmond and every other dixiecrat from the 1860′s to Republicans in Ohio and Florida?

    I figure, If you’re hungry enough for high fructose corn syrup and can handle the bullshit and don’t mind getting your hands or the hands of whoever you hire to do your dirty work, dirty, then you’ve got what it takes to be an American. Being American isn’t the culmination of a noble ideal, it’s being able to hang on in the post-information, post-education, post-civility, post-opportunity, post-prosperity, post-democracy funhouse ride that will be the American experience in the 21st century. We all get to work together even when some people are drilling holes in the ship of state while everyone else is bailing. We don’t get the luxury of exclusivity.

    Which is not to be a pessimist, but we have to address the problems facing America with the electorate we have, not the one we wish we had. So, if Obama wins, we get to continue patching up the sorry experiment of Democracy, and if Mitt pulls off the upset, well, crap.

  496. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:02

    Oh, and also the inevitable “Some rich Democrat once also used a CRUT so suckit! You’re it! Hahaha, no takesiesbacksies!”

  497. George Will said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:02

    I forgot my exact number. I guess the wild card in what I’ve projected is I’m projecting Minnesota to go for Romney. Now, that’s the only state in the union, because Mondale held it — native son Mondale held it when Romney was — when Reagan was getting 49 states… Umm… evagelicals! Because, umm… progressives. What Lassie? Timmy fell down the well again?

  498. Dick Morris said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:04

    Pay attention, Libs! We’re going to win by a landslide. “It will be the biggest surprise in recent American political history.” “It will rekindle the whole question on why the media played this race as a nailbiter where I think in fact Romney’s going to win by quite a bit. My own view is that Romney is going to carry 325 electoral votes…I think he’s going to win Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Indiana…Iowa, Ohio, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Minnesota and Colorado. This is going to be a landslide. And you can bookmark that at the BANK!!!

  499. Peggy Noonan said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:06

    Here’s a tip, libs: Romney’s slipping into the presidency. He’s quietly rising, and he’s been rising for a while. Just the tip.

  500. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:07

    Oooh, it’s election day in sadlytime!

  501. Pupienus said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:07

    Who the hell doesn’t deserve to live here?

    What exact values are you using for “here?” I know Canada is a de facto suburb of Detroit and all but there’s still a de jure distinction.

  502. Pupienus said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:08

    Oooh, it’s election day in sadlytime!

    How exciting given that we both voted last week.

  503. gocart mozart said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:08

    Peggy will be in her bunk for awhile.

  504. bughunter said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:09

    (Apologies to Hullaballoo for the above… teh rest of you deserved it.)

  505. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:10

    How exciting given that we both voted last week.

    So you think.

  506. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:11

    What exact values are you using for “here?” I know Canada is a de facto suburb of Detroit and all but there’s still a de jure distinction.

    I was calling ‘here’ the United States of America, but if you want a few of our 27% reliably wrong demographic, help yourself.

  507. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:13

    Oh noes! The evil drone war has expanded yet moar! Has the evil sociokenyanmarxist’s reach extended all the way to the SASQUATCH ISREAL scientists in deeply red Idaho!?

    What can this man not do!?!

  508. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:14

    whoa…would hate to see that mom and ann outhouse in a halloween candy slap-fight…

  509. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:14

    Here’s a tip, libs: Romney’s slipping into the presidency. He’s quietly rising, and he’s been rising for a while. Just the tip.

    I hope I’m not alone in finding that particular imagery, especially when applied to someone who does not seem to recognize that anyone not obscenely wealthy is actually human, more than a little disturbing.

  510. Pupienus said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:16

    So you think.

    I checked with the sec’y of state’s office to make sure my ballot was received and processed. Given that I don’t vote in Clackistan I think I’m good.

  511. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:17

    How exciting given that we both voted last week.

    Well yeah, there’s that.

    But still! Pundits! Polls! Talking heads! Breathless ANALysis!

  512. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:17

    Like the slave owners that founded this country?

    Yes–we had to kill about 400,000 of them to straighten their dumb asses out.

    Like the Puritans at Plymouth rock?

    They were largely disbanded and assimilated by the time we actually became a nation. They were just looking to get away from persecution anyway, and while they were a theocracy, their influence outside of their settlements was nil. I’m not convinced that they intended to ever start their own nation as a theocracy. In any event, by 1800, they were more of cultural influence than anything.

    Like the late Strom Thurmond and every other dixiecrat from the 1860?s to Republicans in Ohio and Florida?

    Do you think that people who actively oppress others deserve to live here? I don’t. I consider that a human rights abuse, and going back to our example of the Civil War and a large contingent of early settlers being refugees from religious persecution as one of the true reasons behind the existence of this nation instead of a colony of an oppressive, theocratic monarchy that, when a different faction of Christian took over, massacres would always ensue.

    So yes, I contend that those who would seek to repress the freedom of others, to persecute, to subvert our constitutional values, do NOT deserve the freedoms granted under the Constitution. There are lots of places still left in the world where the governments are united under one religion and gays are still persecuted, other races are persecuted, immigrants rounded up and expelled, etc…These vestiges of the old system are kindly invited to bugger off to one of those shitholes instead of trying to create one here.

  513. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:18

    Scientist plans to catch Bigfoot with remote-control blimp

    Call me back when the guy can afford a goddamned monocle.

  514. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:19

    Here’s a tip, libs: Romney’s slipping into the presidency. He’s quietly rising, and he’s been rising for a while. Just the tip.

    actually, it gave me a kevin williamson flashback…

  515. gocart mozart said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:24

    Linda McMahon endorses Obama! Or does she?
    http://www.dailykos.com/

  516. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:25

    Do you think that people who actively oppress others deserve to live here? I don’t. I consider that a human rights abuse, and going back to our example of the Civil War and a large contingent of early settlers being refugees from religious persecution as one of the true reasons behind the existence of this nation instead of a colony of an oppressive, theocratic monarchy that, when a different faction of Christian took over, massacres would always ensue.

    I don’t think we have the moral high ground to kick them out. I contend we have to fight them every day, because we are rich enough and powerful enough to do it. We owe it to the rest of the world to figure out how to reform them if we can, and drag them kicking and screaming into a better world, instead of booting them out to ravage another country. We grew those particular sick puppies and they are our problem.

  517. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:25

    tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:17

    while i think ‘tsam for president’ would look spiffy on campaign signs, the tagline ‘i will cut a bitch’ may need some work…

  518. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:26

    Ballot issued on 10/18/2012
    Ballot received on 11/03/2012
    Ballot signature accepted on 11/03/2012
    Ballot completed on 11/03/2012

    This is SO FUCKING COOL

    Yes, sir, that’s my ballot
    No, sir, I don’t mean ….(something that rhymes with ballot…)

  519. tigris said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:27

    Crazy NJ Halloween lady: “Never before have I felt the presence of the government in my home as loudly as I did on Oct. 31. I found it very contradictory to the motto of our country. I did not feel free.”

    E Pluribus Up Yours.

  520. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:30

    I don’t think we have the moral high ground to kick them out.

    That wasn’t what I was saying. I’m saying we can’t let those fuckers outvote us. People who don’t vote increase their chances. After watching Bush Jr get REELECTED WTF, there is not a single justification for not getting your ass out to vote. I’m lucky that we’re all mail-in ballots, but still, it’s just as critical to vote now as it was in 1860 or 1932 or any other time of crisis.

  521. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:31

    ‘i will cut a bitch’

    The last 2 Republican nominees have threatened to cut Iran. Didn’t seem to slow them down any.

  522. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:32

    Linda McMahon endorses Obama! Or does she?

    oh holy mother of pearl…it IS that linda mcmahon?!?!?

    srsly?!? wtf?!? how can anyone over the age of 12 know who she is and still vote for her?!?

  523. CRA said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:33

    If the Ohio Secretary of State manages to steal the election, for ex., I want to see a fight this time. I hope the Obama administration has quietly drawn up plans and recruited people to flip the switch on a legal shitstorm the second we catch a whiff of Florida 2000. Barack can calmly and repeatedly state that no, he’s not conceding unless certain reasonable conditions are met. What the citizens should do is an issue for another post.

  524. CRA said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:39

    I remember in 2004 sitting in a classroom with some self-absorbed bourgeois kid who explained why he wasn’t gonna vote. Something about the two-party system and how his time would be better spent on a fucking sailboat. Oh yeah and the message you send by voting for these people. Looking back I shoulda made the counter-argument, but I didn’t.

    The mental image of him all smug on that sailboat will forever haunt me.

  525. gocart mozart said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:41

    Pretty much no amount of campaigning at this point will change things. Obama’s going to win. However, a question has been on my mind and it won’t leave me alone.

    Did you know that…

    …patients who had a group pray for them, even without their knowledge, show positive effects by healing faster or better in 57% of studies?

    If group prayer can heal people,
    it can change an election.

    http://romneymegaprayer.com/

  526. gocart mozart said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:47

    oh holy mother of pearl…it IS that linda mcmahon?!?!?

    Sadly, Yes!

    Fortunetely,
    FiveThirtyEight Projections

    Chance of winning Murphy 92% McMahon 8%

  527. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:49

    http://romneymegaprayer.com/

    The cartoon boobs at that link are disturbing.

  528. gocart mozart said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:49

    On the other hand:
    http://www.canada.com/news/Obama+gets+endorsement+from+selfdescribed+Peruvian+medicine/7500140/story.html

  529. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:50

    You’d be speaking Turkish now if it hadn’t worked.

    that site is incredibly dumb…the first graphic you see is a pie chart that labels christians as ‘good people’ and the rest as ‘misguided’…also, too…since prayer worked so well and saved the world from the turks, how come nobody has tried it again? ffs…

  530. gocart mozart said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:50

    “The cartoon boobs at that link are disturbing.”

    In what respect Charlie?

  531. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:53

    If group prayer can heal people, it can change an election.

    Satan was powerful enough to take the last election, so concentrating on Mitt Romney while the Slayer is on is probably worth ten prayers.

  532. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:53

    The cartoon boobs at that link are disturbing.

    Indeed. Here are Salma Hayek’s boobs as a palette cleanser.

  533. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:58

    <bl

  534. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 6, 2012 at 0:59

    In what respect Charlie?

    In the disturbingly-badly-drawn respect.

  535. Major Kong said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:02

    Here are Salma Hayek’s boobs as a palette cleanser.

    Impressive, bordering on spectacular.

  536. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:03

    Spear, WTF BRO?

  537. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:03

    After watching Bush Jr get REELECTED WTF,

    Insert my But you have to have been elected before you can be reelected!!11! here. But yeah. The fact that that arrogant little fratboy got within stealing distance of the presidency not once, but twice, really gets up my nose.

    And apologies for the wierdity above. I’m doing this on a mobile, and it just … got away from me.

  538. Pupienus said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:07

    There have been hundreds of scientific studies proving the effects of group prayer.

    No. The link goes to a paper that surveyed a number of poorl;y documented and otherwise questionable “studies.” They conclude that they can’
    t conclude that prayer works. There have also been similar studies (actually, better documented and with better methodology as I recall) that found prayer counterproductive. Fucking religionists and republicans (yes, I know) always trying to prove shit with science all the while railing against all science that does not further their sill-assed notions.

    Sorry, I just can’t stop myself when this kind of shit comes up.

  539. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:08

    Maybe we should get Actor’s opinion, Pup?

  540. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:08

    WHOA–EASY NOW–PUT DOWN THE GUN

  541. Major Kong said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:09

    There have been hundreds of scientific studies proving the effects of group prayer.

    Well hey, if it works so well maybe they shouldn’t bother voting?
    I mean if you really believe it works……

  542. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:11

    Insert my But you have to have been elected before you can be reelected!!11! here

    You have to admit that he ran a pretty solid campaign against a pretty weak and silly candidate, despite his credentials and ability to do the job (Gore).

    However, after the Patriot Act, Iraq, Afghanistan, all the civil liberty invasions, his outright support for dumping Social Security in the laps of Wall Street (those poor, impoverished brokerage firms NEED THAT MONEYZ!)…it’s just amazing that the fucker got reelected (excluding the ..ahem… irregularities in Ohio)

  543. Major Kong said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:12

    tsam

    I’ve been voting in Ohio since 1994. No one will ever convince there wasn’t something hinky about the 2004 election here.

    It was like nothing I’ve seen before or since.

  544. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:18

    or since.

    We hope.

  545. Pupienus said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:18

    Late on Election Day, John Kerry showed an insurmountable lead in exit polling, and many considered his victory all but certified. Yet the final vote tallies in thirty states deviated widely from exit polls, with discrepancies favoring George W. Bush in all but nine. The greatest disparities were concentrated in battleground states – particularly Ohio. In one Ohio precinct, exit polls indicated that Kerry should have received 67 percent of the vote, but the certified tally gave him only 38 percent. The odds of such an unexpected outcome occurring only as a result of sampling error are 1 in 867,205,553. To quote Lou Harris, who has long been regarded as the father of modern political polling: “Ohio was as dirty an election as America has ever seen.”

    The statistically anomalous shifting of votes to the conservative right has become so pervasive in post-HAVA America that it now has a name of its own. Experts call it the “red shift.”

    [...]

    For Democratic legislators and candidates, openly questioning the integrity of American democracy feels like committing political suicide,” says Ben Ptashnik. A former Vermont state senator, Ptashnik ran for office in 1996 specifically to spearhead the state’s Clean Elections Act – whose provisions were largely struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court nearly a decade after its passage. Ptashnik believes that election rigging remains an untouchable phenomenon in American politics. “Very few leaders are willing to fight it, which is probably why Kerry backed off in 2004. But the evidence is piling up. Democrats have to get their heads out of the sand and realize we’re looking at our worst nightmare: Karl Rove’s projected forty-year G.O.P. dynasty.”

    http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/14198-focus-how-to-rig-an-election

  546. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:18

    hinky

    ha…you are like one of two or three people that i have ever heard use that term…and that includes myself…i am more than a little annoyed by ohio right now…if we have to wait for 10 fucking days for a winner to be declared i am going to have tsam cut a bitch…

    Fucking religionists and republicans (yes, I know) always trying to prove shit with science all the while railing against all science that does not further their sill-assed notions.

    ugh…not too long ago, the most annoying/dumb teller at one of our banks asked how my older brother was doing…i don’t know what i replied, since i rarely talk to him, but she did inform me that her christian biker group was praying for him…i am not a big fan of my brother’s right now since he is an alcoholic that has had his disease fuck up his life in myriad and serious ways, but i srsly wanted to grab her by the throat and throttle her sanctimonious ass…the fucking nerve these people have…

  547. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:21

    I’ve been voting in Ohio since 1994. No one will ever convince there wasn’t something hinky about the 2004 election here.

    I’m sure there was plenty of hinkety ass shit going down there. The whole Diebold thing alone should have caused a justice depar…oh…yeah, nevermind.

    I remember Olbermann jumping up and down and screaming about it for a few days, and then everyone just moved on. I had a big old sad over that.

    Hopefully there will be enough of a margin (as the latest polls are indicating) that they can’t cheat this time.

  548. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:22

    oh, ffs! listening to the obits on the local news…one dude is having ‘fellowship’ at pizza ranch after his service…of course being the craven and cynical person i am, i went online and checked out the rest of the obit…he wass 66 and kacked in his home…i think i see a co-relation here…

  549. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:22

    i am going to have tsam cut a bitch

    Call out targets. Ready when you are.

  550. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:23

    Spear, WTF BRO?

    Hey, I can be attracted to more than one woman at a time. Take Miriam Gonzalez here.

  551. tigris said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:24

    If group prayer can heal people,
    it can change an election.

    Jesus is obviously down with the Mammon and the Mormon.

  552. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:26

    Hinky? They used it in 1993′s (ohmuhgawd – is it really almost 20 years?) The Fugitive. though Tommy Lee Jones’ character objected to its use as he’d never heard of it.

    And I had Ohio in mind when I accused Junior of stealing twice.

  553. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:26

    LOL HOLY SHIT THOSE ARE BIG

    I still like them best at around this size, however.

  554. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:27

    he wass 66 and kacked in his home…i think i see a co-relation here…

    further review shows an obit pic of a rather portly man who no longer had a neck…

  555. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:29

    Hey, I can be attracted to more than one woman at a time. Take Miriam Gonzalez here.

    i call pathetic!!! really? there’s a thing called the ‘boobie blog’? and ‘how much do they weigh?’

    you know, if you spent half as much time thinking about important things than you do thinking about tits…oh, never mind…

  556. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:31

    And I had Ohio in mind when I accused Junior of stealing twice

    I DO so hope that history reflects that fact that he won the first time in a contested state where his brother was the governor, and won reelection with new electronic voting machines manufactured with proprietary, locked source code, by a company that gave massive amounts of money to Republicans.

    This should also lend credibility to my point about voter apathy and stupidity (which is partly a product of corporate media, though it existed long before that shit was around). If we don’t vote, we can’t win and have nice things.

  557. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:35

    we can’t win and have nice things.

    or as bronco bama has been saying, ‘revenge’…

  558. Major Kong said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:37

    and won reelection with new electronic voting machines manufactured with proprietary, locked source code, by a company that gave massive amounts of money to Republicans.

    In a state that had a partisan hack as Secretary of State. Of course, we have one now too.

  559. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:39

    you know, if you spent half as much time thinking about important things than you do thinking about tits…oh, never mind…

    Er, I found the picture by Googling. Does the site list the weight of the breasts or the women as a whole? Either way, how could they possibly know?

    Oh well, here’s Diora Baird.

    Last one, promise. Sorry, I’ve been feeling a bit down and I’m just trying to distract myself.

  560. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:41

    And don’t forget Junior sent Jebby lists of names of felons in Texas so Jebby could knock ‘em off the rolls … because names are absolutely unique identifiers.

    I still don’t know why that wasn’t the cause of some serious suits. I can suspect, of course.

  561. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:54

    So I see (online source here) that counties in 31 states (wonder which ones? Any correlation the the party in power in that state?) are allowing “tens of thousands” of US troops to vote absentee electronically, despite it having been shown repeatedly that that’s ridiculously easy to hack. I’m sure that the perception that the military trends conservative has nothing to do with that decision.

  562. gocart mozart said,

    November 6, 2012 at 1:59

    or as bronco bama has been saying, ‘revenge’

    Revenge is a dish best served with arugula and fancy French mustard.

  563. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:05

    OHHHH Diora. SO SO HOT.

    NSFW NSFW NSFW NSFW Diora.

    This is where I first saw Diora. This was such a strange movie–called Hot Tamale. I loved it. This kid, see, drives from like Wyoming or somewhere like that to LA, where he stays with his friend. He ends up with a hitman chasing him (played to perfection by Jason Priestly, BTW, then more hitmen one was Danny Aiello) and all sorts of hinky hijinks ensued. It’s called Hot Tamale because the kid is white, see, and he wants desperately to play in a salsa band. He ends up in a BAD BAD neighborhood to audition…

    Just watch the fuckin movie. It was cool.

    Also, early Tarentino movie called True Romance. BRILLIANT. Just re-watched this weekend and liked muchly.

  564. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:10

    you know, if you spent half as much time thinking about important things than you do thinking about tits…oh, never mind…

    You’re insane. Everything else is just a waste of time. Well, except thinking about vadge and beer and stuff.

  565. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:11

    What about Girl und Panzer warfare?

  566. bughunter said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:13

    Believe me, tits make for perfectly cromulent mentation.

  567. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:14

    Panzers are NO MATCH for Navy Seals and/or Chuck Norris.

  568. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:14

    I see I picked a good time to be busy.

  569. tigris said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:18

    When Pupi starts posting hardbody ass shots you’ll be sorry. ANY MINUTE NOW.

  570. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:20

    I see I picked a good time to be busy.

    Here ya go, Kenneth.

  571. bughunter said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:20

    http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/14198-focus-how-to-rig-an-election

    Pup, thank you for that link.

  572. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:22

    Does this help, Dr K?

  573. bughunter said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:27

    Here’s a less hopeless piece on voting fraud by Naomi Wolf.

  574. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:28

    Boobmark it, libs!

  575. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:31

    Hey, those guys have nice tits.

  576. Smut Clyde said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:31

    Heh. http://romneymegaprayer.com/ claims that “There have been hundreds of scientific studies proving the effects of group prayer”, then links to precisely two notoriously dodgy ones.

    …patients who had a group pray for them, even without their knowledge, show positive effects by healing faster or better in 57% of studies?

    The ’57%’ figure comes from the abstract of an Ann.Int.Med. paper summing up 23 studies, 13 reporting positive results. Of those 23 studies, five involved intercessory group prayer while the others were all about Therapeutic Touch and other non-contact forms of placebo.

    These are not smart people.

  577. Smut Clyde said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:33

    When Pupi starts posting hardbody ass shots you’ll be sorry.

    We can distract him with sloppy statistics.

  578. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:37

    Hey, those guys have nice tits.

    I’d like to help you out more, Ken, but I’m just not attracted to very many dudes.

  579. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:40

    Probably the most blatant tit-shot on my blog.

  580. Pupienus, Doctor of Anathematics said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:40

    http://paddyk.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/prayer-vs-hard-work1.png

  581. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:41

    Probably the most blatant tit-shot on my blog.

    The most historically accurate movie since Caligula.

  582. Pupienus, Doctor of Anathematics said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:47

    Substance McGravitas said,
    November 6, 2012 at 2:40

    Probably the most blatant tit-shot on my blog.

    At last! Tit pics I can appreciate!

    Sort of related, for Major Kong and you other buckeyes: tp://www.advocate.com/politics/politicians/2012/11/05/antigay-gop-senate-candidate-blasted-own-family

  583. CRA said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:49

    “Something Awesome’s 10 Hottest Celebrity Racks”

    I appreciate how the captions deteriorate as the list approaches #1.

  584. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:49

    Bookmark it, Libs!

    ANDREW C. MCCARTHY:

    Mitt Romney wins … decisively.

    ROGER L. SIMON

    Nevertheless the part of me that is not superstitious trusts the one person who knows more about elections than anyone I know — my friend Michael Barone. Michael says Romney will win. So I’m choosing to believe him, when my blood sugar is okay anyway.

    VICTOR DAVIS HANSON

    So I can see why a week ago Romney was starting to create wave-like momentum, but now, based on independent voting and Republican turnout, I think he has just enough thrust left to hang on by a point — if he can barnstorm and give ‘em hell these last two days.

    CLAUDIA ROSETT

    It seems safe to predict that if President Obama wins, it will be close. If there’s a landslide coming, it’s for Romney. But apart from that, I’d be lying to suggest that I could with any confidence foretell which way this election will go.

    Four more pages of that (and I’ve edited down what I’ve quoted).

  585. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 2:57

    Even though it’s entirely my fault, I still think it’s funny that a supposed political humour blog has become entirely about boobs and pecs the night before the Presidential election.

    Anyway, here’s Lin Ketong.

  586. Major Kong said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:05

    Yes, it’s official, America loves boobs.

  587. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:05

    I’m Canadian.

  588. N__B said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:10

    I don’t think this is what Mencken meant when he talked about the booboise.

  589. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:14

    omg…best lifetime movie evar! not even 15 minutes in and there were two swears!!! also, the acting is making even the dog sick…

  590. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:15

    also, greasily ethnic bad guyz…

  591. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:15

    I don’t think this is what Mencken meant when he talked about the booboise.

    “Stupid and gullible”? No, I think it fits.

  592. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:17

    I’m Canadian.

    just another example of our fine friendship with our neighbors to the north…

  593. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:18

    Oh dear, the US is #8.

  594. Major Kong said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:19

    I’m Canadian.

    Yes, it’s official, North America loves boobs.

  595. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:20

    d’oh…that was supposed to say our fine, firm friendship…

  596. Major Kong said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:21

    Oh Canada, our boob loving land…

  597. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:34

    It’s probably wrong that one of the things I’m most looking forward to tomorrow is getting drunk on Wingnut tears. I vote mostly because I don’t want this country to go down the shitter, but Id be lying if I said I vote a little bit just to stick it to all the wingnuts of the world.

  598. bughunter said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:36

    I still think it’s funny that a supposed political humour blog has become entirely about boobs and pecs the night before the Presidential election.

    Funny-strange or funny-haha?

    Or as if there aren’t enough boobs in politics already?

  599. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:37

    Didn’t. Dammit.

  600. bughunter said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:37

    Dr. K – wingnuts don’t shed tears. They just scream, bare their teeth, pound their chests, and throw poop.

  601. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:40

    TV evangelists are pretty good at crying when they get caught. The image of Jim Bakker being led away in tears is a sweet one.

  602. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:42

    . I vote mostly because I don’t want this country to go down the shitter

    i just saw a cottonelle commercial featuring friends coming up with a nickname for the butthole cleaning duo of cottonelle tp and buttwipes…i am not sure this is a country worth saving anymore…

  603. Pupienus, Doctor of Anathematics said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:43

    Say, I’ve been meaning to ask – What’s the frequency, Kenneth?

  604. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:48

    Only Rather knows.

  605. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:52

    What’s the frequency, Kenneth?

    i said this to a friend named ken last week…did. not. get…but then again, he hasn’t listened to anything new since 1974…

  606. N__B said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:53

    Ooooooonly Dan knows
    The frequence I’ve seen…

  607. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 3:58

    Moving on to my other fetish, here’s Lauren Ambrose.

  608. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:08

    I think Spear and I share a fetish

  609. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:12

    There’s a…slight…possibility that I might have seen Who Framed Roger Rabbit at an impressionable age.

    Karen Gillan.

  610. N__B said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:16

    I think Spear and I share a fetish

    Being shot by women?

    To each his own…

  611. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:18

    Not a redhead, but Karen Gillian reminded me of this absolutely divine doll.

    Being shot by women?

    Hell ya, bro!

  612. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:23

    Linda Cardellini is almost a foot shorter than Gillan. Not sure I see it.

    That said…uh, what were we talking about?

    Oh yeah, Freaks and Geeks was really good.

  613. Snorghagen said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:30

    Yes, it’s official, America loves boobs.

    And the rockets’ red glare, the boobs protruding in air,
    Gave proof through the night that her chest was still bare…

    (lyrics from a poem by Francis Scott Cleavage)

  614. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:30

    Is the tit parade about over yet?

    It is creepy.

  615. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:40

    As much as I LOVE BOOBIES, I have to agree with the creepiness assessment. And so, now for something completely different.

  616. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:43

    Wtf. Apologies. good link here.

  617. N__B said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:44

    Softcore is meant to be enjoyed in the privacy of one’s bathroom, closet, and/or kitchen cupboard.

  618. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:46

    Need I remind you that THIS IS INTERNET!?

  619. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:48

    Russian accents don’t threaten ME, mister.

  620. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:49

    Also, my last link contained no boobs.

  621. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:51

    That was a Girard Butler accent. Scared now?

  622. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:53

    Okay, mildly. And it is dark out.

  623. Major Kong said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:55

    It’s probably wrong that one of the things I’m most looking forward to tomorrow is getting drunk on Wingnut tears.

    If that’s wrong I don’t want to be right.

  624. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:57

    I wonder if Butch McConnell is rehearsing his speech about how his only goal in the next 4 years is to limit Obama to two terms.

  625. CRA said,

    November 6, 2012 at 4:58

    Tomorrow we’ll be saying, oh look, “Some of them can’t even wrench tent, they’re too busy crying.” (Expression courtesy of my last link, which was creepy.)

  626. Anonymous said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:00

    That was a Girard Butler accent. Scared now?

    no, not scared…i would say…titillated…i’ll be in my bunk…

  627. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:00

    Hehe. Titillated.

  628. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:01

    Yes. True. Sorry.

    In my meager defense, I’m rather frustrated at the moment due to my high-ish sex-drive and a form of OCD that happens to make is very difficult to –uh…Anyway, early 60s Fashion! Yay!

  629. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:02

    Y’all are full of pepperoni.
    .

  630. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:07

    Look at the 50s-y goodness!

  631. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:08

    Cool hat.

  632. CRA said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:11

    Interesting, if you haven’t seen it yet: The Republican Id

    The one area where Ryan’s libertarian mentor is utterly out of sync with the Republican ticket is on social issues like abortion rights and gay marriage. “I want the Democrats out of my damn pocketbook,” he said, “and I want the Republicans out of my bedroom.”

    That’s Paul Ryan’s fave econ prof at Miami Univ. in Ohio. Good thing your bedroom isn’t much of an issue, dude — Ryan is no social libertarian.

    Oh, and whatever his erudition, in soundbites he comes across as a doctrinaire wingnut posing the same false dichotomies as some twit working the register at a gas station. Socialism vs. free market, green vs. fossil fuel. Govt. dependency vs. bootstraps.

  633. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:13

    Late 60s Space Age fashion.

  634. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:13

    Cool hat.

    Are those … stamens on that hat?

  635. N__B said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:17

    Are those … stamens on that hat?

    Aaaaaand, we’re back to sex.

  636. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:22

    From the linked NYT piece on Rayn’s mentor:

    And if Romney loses, Ryan starts the 2016 campaign for his party’s nomination near the front of the line.

    Is there a history of the VP candidate from a failed campaign going on to success as POTUS in a future campaign? Just curious – I really don’t know.

  637. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:22

    g-dang it…last week when we were in detroit lakes, i saw an exhibit of 7 originals of a local who was some sort of a designer in the thirties and forties…they were just gorgeous and simplistic drawings featuring outdoor sports-wear…rumble seat riding was facetiously considered a ‘sport’…i wish i could find them online, but can’t remember her name…

  638. N__B said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:24

    VCarlson – Have you forgotten the disastrous Lieberman administration?

  639. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:24

    Are those … stamens on that hat?

    I may be alone in this, but I quite like 3D flower-type decorations on women’s clothing. This, for example, and Joan’s dress here (on the right).

  640. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:26

    Not the best examples, but I couldn’t think of any others off the top of my head.

  641. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:27

    i wish i could find them online, but can’t remember her name…

    Ideas.

  642. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:29

    VCarlson – Have you forgotten the disastrous Lieberman administration?

    Damn you! I had! Wait. Wait. Was it his R or D or I administration?

  643. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:34

    Damn you! I had! Wait. Wait. Was it his R or D or I administration?

    If only he hadn’t discovered that loophole that you can run for a third term if you switch parties. His Constitution Party administration was disastrous.

  644. N__B said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:34

    Lieberman would have made a good Know Nothing, but they wouldn’t have taken him.

  645. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:35

    Is there a history of the VP candidate from a failed campaign going on to success as POTUS in a future campaign? Just curious – I really don’t know.

    Palin 2016 bitchez! Bookmark it libz

  646. N__B said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:36

    Palin 2016 bitchez!

    To quote the 1970 version of N__B, PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEEEEEZE.

  647. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:40

    Palin/Lieberman? Cruella Deville and Droppy Dog…

  648. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:45

    i wish i could find them online, but can’t remember her name…

    Have you tried calling the Detroit Lakes library?

  649. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:46

    Palin 2016 bitchez! Bookmark it libz

    ALSO CREEPY.

  650. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:47

    ALSO CREEPY.

    In what respect, Charlie?

    Hey, at the very least, it would make SNL relevant again.

  651. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:51

    Continuing the creepy Palin theme, I thought the cartoon woman at the “prey pray for Rmoney” site looked Palinesque.

  652. Snorghagen said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:54

    Is there a history of the VP candidate from a failed campaign going on to success as POTUS in a future campaign? Just curious – I really don’t know.

    I think the only one in the last century was FDR, who ran for VP in 1920 and lost.

  653. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:54

    Maybe the money will have run out by then and Palin will have to make a show of it.

    God would that be fun.

  654. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:56

    Have you tried calling the Detroit Lakes library

    i may call the cultural center where they are housed…i think spear would get a kick out of them..

  655. tsam said,

    November 6, 2012 at 5:59

    Continuing the creepy Palin theme, I thought the cartoon woman at the “prey pray for Rmoney” site looked Palinesque.

    Not an accident

  656. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 6:01

    damn you, jp…first with the pepperoni and now the daughter is talking about cookies…do some people not understand DIETING!?!?!

  657. Spearhafoc, who is the Lizard King said,

    November 6, 2012 at 6:03

    But seriously though, I really hope we’re done with Palin by this point. Not since Dubya has a voice made me cringe that much.

  658. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 6:09

    , I really hope we’re done with Palin by this point.

    we may be done with her, but she will never, ever be done with us…she has fully succumbed to media whoredom and will always consider herself relevant…

  659. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 6:14

    whoa…this lifetime movie is even more horrendous than the last…it’s got insanity, murder and now spouse abuse…all with a precocious and tough teenage protagonist, who actually just said, ‘what, are you going to hit me, too?’ i was so drawn in, i forgot to flip over to the daily show to catch the last installment of ‘the strategists’…

  660. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 6:35

    New thread.

  661. Cerberus said,

    November 6, 2012 at 6:35

    New post.

  662. bbkf said,

    November 6, 2012 at 6:39

    jinx!

  663. N__B said,

    November 6, 2012 at 6:43

    Is it a thread or is it a post? I HAVE TO KNOW!

  664. VCarlson said,

    November 6, 2012 at 6:48

    Is it a thread or is it a post? I HAVE TO KNOW!

    Yes. It’s also a delicious dessert.

  665. Pupienus, Doctor of Anathematics said,

    November 6, 2012 at 7:06

    Not in MY penis you haven’t.

  666. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 6, 2012 at 7:27

    Teh BEAST

  667. Dr.KennethNoisewater said,

    November 7, 2012 at 0:09

    Let’s all agree to agree.

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