Oct
31

But, But, But . . . Tawanna!




Posted at 23:49 by Tintin

Shorter Chris Bedford, The Daily Fucker Carlson;
Gay Republican volunteer invented bias attack

  • Well, yes, the hate beating by gay bigots of a gay conservative that we reported was in fact completely bogus and fabricated by the purported victim, but you should remember that most cases of faked hate crimes are made up by black Democrats.

Just last week, Fucker Carlson’s melange of bullshit disguised as a website breathlessly reported the horrifying attack of liberal gay thugs on a poor conservative gay, proving once again that the real enemies of gays are liberals and not the conservative Republicans who have, of course, only their best interest in mind when denying them equal rights with normal, God-fearing heterosexuals. (“If they had the same rights, they would just spend themselves into poverty purchasing foo-foo frippery for their pretend weddings.”) Let’s hear if from Kyle:

“I was getting ready for work and there was a knock at the door,” Wood emailed The Daily Caller late Wednesday. “I opened it, and a guy wrapped a ligature around my neck, slammed my head into the doorway, and smashed my face into a mirror, telling me ‘You should have kept your [f*******] mouth shut.’”

“He then kidney-punched me, while at the same time saying I was ‘warned,’ and continued to beat me,” he added.

As details of Kyle’s account, including supposed anti-gay graffiti painted on his car, fell apart, Kyle recanted. Seems Mr. Wood was responsible for inflicting on himself the “injuries” shown in the helpful, illustrative photos he passed on to the Daily Fucker Carlson


ABOVE: Kyle Wood (note the dainty ligature marks on neck!)

Of course, rather than simply apologizing for having been completely taken in by a facially absurd story of a ligature wielding gay thug,  Fucker Carlson’s minions decide instead to use it as an opportunity to argue that most hate crimes are self-inflicted hoaxes concocted by liberal darkies as part of the black plot to oppress white people. And to do this, Mr. Bedford dredges up the Brawley case, now a quarter of a century old. At this rate, he should have dragged in the Piltdown Man as well.

This being Halloween and a full moon, you won’t be surprised that another zombie hoaxer came knocking at Sadly, No’s doors. Remember Justin Zatkoff? We talked about Justin at the end of this post. Justin had his fifteen minutes when he claimed that he had been badly beaten by a vicious gay rights group or some other liberal thugs, and there was a picture of poor widdle Justin with a nasty shiner to prove it. Sadly, No!  Justin actually got clocked by one of his own friends who was sick and tired of Justin being a loudmouthed asshole, and then Justin, trying to hide that even his own friends hate him, tried to blame it on some vicious, pumped-up fairies with a grudge against young Republicans.

So, now comes Justin knocking at our door with a takedown notice on the photo we used of him:

October 28, 2012

Re: COPYRIGHT NOTICE

To Whom It May Concern:

The following link contains a picture that is copyrighted and used on [your] hosted site without permission: http://www.sadlyno.com/wordpress/uploads/2007/12/axi41bm2.jpg

Here is the link to the full page where the infringing picture appears: http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/8198.html

The above link contains copyrighted work that I request be removed or access to disabled [sic].

The Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, the Universal Copyright Convention, as well as bilateral treaties with other countries allow for protection of copyrighted work even beyond U.S. borders.

I hereby state that I have a good faith belief that the disputed use of the copyrighted material is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.

I hereby state that the information in this notice is accurate and, under penalty of perjury, that I am the owner, or authorized to act on behalf of the owner, of the copyright or of an exclusive right under the copyright that is allegedly infringed.

Thank you,

Justin Sean Zatkoff
[personal information redacted]

Now take a look at this screen shot of our source for the photograph

Hmm. That photo is credited to Angela Cesere, who was the managing photo editor at Michigan Daily, the student newspaper that ran the story and the photo of Justin’s hoax. So we have to wonder whether Justin is making up things (again!) when he claims to have rights to that photo. Maybe he thinks he has a copyright in his face. If he had hit himself in the face, he might have had a copyright in the injuries, but as it stands the only one with a copyright in that shiner is Justin’s “buddy” who had enough of Justin’s assholery and clocked him.

So what has Justin been up to and why is he now busy trying to expunge the Intertubes of all traces of this embarrassing incident between him and his friend? Well, it seems that Justin is now a law student at a fourth-tier law school (where the copyright doctrine of “fair use” is apparently not on the curriculum) and has high hopes of being a Justice of the Peace in Lower Frogbreath, Michigan, or some other equally distinguished village. Here’s his resume. My very favorite part is where he says he worked as a clerk for a judge who just happens to also be named Zatkoff. Way to go, Justin! That must have been a super hard job to land.

280 Comments »

  1. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:07

    FRST! Lng tm lrkr (nnyms) frm th lst thrd.

  2. Whale Chowder said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:08

    Somebody get out the Troll-B-Gone.

  3. Pupienus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:10

    SUck it Bozo!

  4. CreativelyCommon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:13

    What a wanker. This may not be the first time young Justin tried to get stuff taken down.

  5. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:13

    If there were only some way to encourage teh Google to link notorious fabulist Justin Zatkoff with his prior form.

  6. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:15

    From the Michigan college paper article:

    “It sounds like a lot of people who didn’t know the full story started talking about this and it got blown out of proportion,” [Rob] Scott, [chair of the Michigan College Republicans] said. “It’s the importance of real journalism over blogging, I guess.”

    I presume the young man managed to say this with a straight face.

  7. Babe Ruthless said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:15

    FAIR USE IZ THEFT

  8. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:16

    Mb ‘ll jst hng rnd “fr tw psts” lk Crb sd lst pst r hng rnd snc 2006 lk Ggl sd. N W0lvrtn cld thnk ‘m jst csll hngng rnd snc 2006, rght?

  9. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:17

    No backwards “B” carved into his face? WTF?

  10. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:18

    hz flz, k.

  11. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:19

    off to do my civic duty supervising my key club kids who are helping out at the nursing home with their halloween carnival…hopefully they will restore my faith in humanity which has been sorely tempted as of late…i may stop over at the howlalujah christian halloween party with a super scary mask or something just to see what will happen…then hopefully hubbkf will pour me a huge drink when i get home…

  12. Wingnut Oprah said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:22

    You get a Backwards B! You get a Backwards B! Everbody gets a Backwards B!

  13. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:22

    Flz sz ’r ll n00bz, k

  14. Whale Chowder said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:23

    Anonymous’ dad has a nasty old trait
    Of letting the Hitler boys “work out” their hate
    On Nonny’s dad’s backside
    Which at this point’s quite sore
    But even the Nazis say Nonny’s mom is the whore.

  15. bughunter said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:23

    Before reading Cerb’s article, let me just drop this off for your Hallow’een/Samhain/post-Pagan-Christian-Saints-Day-Eve amusement:

    Before you charter a boat, please look up the collected works of HP Lovecraft.

    (Found on memeorandum, for some reason.)

  16. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:26

    Posted at 23:49 by Tintin

  17. Another Kiwi with extra coal said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:26

    No backwards “B” carved into his face? WTF?
    Exactly! Does tradition mean nothing to him!!!

  18. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:29

    h, WC, whr wr y bck n ’06? ws hr (wth Sb) wndrng whr th rst f y wr. Bt y’r hr nw, nd n n crs.

  19. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:31

    Bckwrds B 4 Rmny, mrt

  20. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:32

    Bckwrds B/NYR 2012!

  21. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:34

    Dck, t t 2012!

  22. Nym said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:35

    No backwards “B” carved into his face? WTF?

    No headshaving or swastikas either. (I can’t be the only one who remembers that.)

  23. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:35

    Oh dear. So what you’re saying is that there still exists a picture of Justin Zatkoff in a story about Justin Zatkoff telling a really big lie and now Justin Zatkoff is trying to get that picture taken off other sites while Justin Zatkoff does not actually own the copyright to it!

    Ho ho, this Justin Zatkoff is a silly person! Let me* go tell my friends on Facebook about this.

    *Note: not an actual Facebook user but someone must be, right?

  24. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:35

    Before you charter a boat, please look up the collected works of HP Lovecraft.

    Too late, I believe AK and Smut have already comandeered a heavily armed steam yacht out of Dunedin.

    Oh, how I LOLed:

    The most wonderful thing in the world, in our opinion, is the ability of the human mind to correlate many seemingly unrelated pieces of information into a jubilant whole.

  25. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:35

    Snd, Dck. 2012 R∓R!

  26. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:36

    Poor nonnie.

    Can’t even afford a vowel. That’s what happens to trools.
    ~

  27. Oregon Beer Necromancer said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:37

    Before you charter a boat, please look up the collected works of HP Lovecraft.

    That is a most excellent paper.

  28. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:37

    What kind of legal career, or any other kind, does this little twerp think he’s going to have now? After this stunt, I bet even the Wingnut Welfare network will shun him.

  29. Tintin said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:37

    Buh-bye “Anonymous” from Tyler, Texas.

  30. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:38

    Justin Zatkoff’s case would be helped if he had carved an encircled “C” into his face.

  31. bughunter said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:39

    Some help for those who would plonk, but have no shovel.

  32. LinguisticallyLustful Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:41

    Can’t even afford a vowel. That’s what happens to trools.

    Ah, disemvoweler, how I missed you!

  33. Whale Chowder said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:44

    Buh-bye “Anonymous” from Tyler, Texas.

    Well that’s a fine how-do-you-do. How will I put my limericking skills to the test now?

  34. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:44

    You know, image searches for Justin Zatkoff do not go well.

    Also, Justin Zatkoff defends himself! Bonus tit-grab photo.

  35. Yastreblyansky said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:49

    he worked as a clerk for a judge who just happens to also be named Zatkoff. Way to go, Justin! That must have been a super hard job to land.

    Indeed! If I needed a judge named Zatkoff I wouldn’t even know where to start. That Justin sure has some of that I-built-it resourcefulness.

  36. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:51

    Note the post date here.

  37. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:53

    That is a most excellent paper.

    Patched coordinate systems! Excellent!

  38. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:55

    How will I put my limericking skills to the test now?

    Thr ws yng trll clld nnms
    Wh njyd rgh sx wth hppptms…

  39. Another Kiwi with extra coal said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:57

    Too late, I believe AK and Smut have already comandeered a heavily armed steam yacht out of Dunedin. We just found it, lying around.

  40. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:57

    ‘ll r sm cwrdly btchs: “Th rqstd RL cld nt b rtrvd” Bn hr snc 2006, s sd. njy yr bbbl.

  41. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:58

    Ths s fml jnt hr, S.C.!
    ~

  42. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 0:58

    Sb? Gv? Wht gvs?

  43. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:01

    Gn’ bck t th dflt prt.

    Dcks fr y’ll, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t, t.

  44. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:02

    You know, image searches for Justin Zatkoff do not go well.

    Mine turned up a picture of a clown about halfway down the page of results. Google is familiar with Justin, apparently.

  45. Another Kiwi with extra coal said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:03

    Oh Dog, Obama says he will send the Army to help in NY. Shut the internet down for a day, it’s going to have more shit than a pig farm on it.

  46. Pupienus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:04

    Y’all are some cowardly bitches:

    I am shocked SHOCKED I SAY to find nnms has misogynist tendencies.

    *How does the disemvoweller deal with ‘y’?

  47. bughunter said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:04

    From Zatkoff’s c.v.:

    Researched noavel topics of law for Judge Zatkoff and his law clerks.

    Proofed for accuracy.

  48. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:04

    Too late, I believe AK and Smut have already comandeered a heavily armed steam yacht out of Dunedin.
    We just found it, lying around.

    We have a map!

  49. Dox Collector said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:08

    Bd chc, h?

  50. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:10

    Golly, the Michigan Federation of College Republicans didn’t like him much. I admit, though, that paying for votes is a pretty good idea.

  51. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:12

    *How does the disemvoweller deal with ‘y’?
    Mynd y, møøs bts Kn b prtty nst…

  52. bughunter said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:14

    You know, image searches for Justin Zatkoff do not go well.

    Challenge accepted.

    (Tip – try a -Jeff modifier to avoid too many hockey goalie pictures.)

    First impression: why is it the obvious assholes are always Republicans, and how the hell can they tolerate each other?

    Next impression: he looks better with the shiner.

    Final impression: with a mug like that, he should be used to getting punched in the face.

    LOL: Young Tim Curry in a white Gothic vampire getup.

  53. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:18

    Sandy remnants means it’s been wet if not raining. Turnout thus far this year seems slightly lower than usual. In other news, an eighteen month old saying “Happy Ween” is fricking adorable.

  54. CRA said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:20

    Young Justin should just stop drawing attention to himself. Cease his quixotic legal gambits, which can only lead to further exposure. Seriously, Justin, if you’re reading this, take my advice. Don’t compound your mistakes.

  55. Another Kiwi with extra coal said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:26

    Zatkoff and Taitz: Our Dentistry is Not Theft (and neither is our law stuff)

  56. Whale Chowder said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:34

    I couldn’t have picked up anything, eh?

    I’d guess a bad case of syphilis based on your writing.

  57. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:34

    Wow. Did it ever pick up! Non-stop stream of ghosts and princesses and fruit and superheroes. Candy is getting desperately low. Will have to start offering shots of bourbon soon.

  58. bughunter said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:38

    Actual References and Sources for the above cited paper, all available for free online.

    Roll a Sanity Check!

  59. bughunter said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:40

    Will have to start offering shots of bourbon soon.

    Well, the older kids start knocking after 7:30 pm, so you’ll be a popular house on the block!

  60. N__B said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:40

    DM-W:

    No bindered women?

  61. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:43

    I dunno. It’s Elmer Lee – not exactly a great kid bourbon. There’s still a couple hits of Woodford though.

  62. Whale Chowder said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:44

    No bindered women?

    That was in fact Young Chowderette’s costume this year. She’s a clever one, that girl, and created it on a college student’s income.

  63. CRA said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:44

    Roll a Sanity Check!

    Lately I feel as if the referee has made a few on my behalf, behind the screen as it were.

  64. Whale Chowder said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:45

    It’s Elmer Lee

    Annie Greensprings doesn’t make a whiskey?

  65. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:46

    Lol. No women in binders so far. I live in a suburby working class neighborhood. It skews kinda conservative and I think such a costume might not go over well with some of the neighbours.

  66. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:48

    So, now comes Justin knocking at our door with a takedown notice on the photo we used of him:

    Threatening to sue Google to have the evidence of one’s dumbarsery expunged from the Intertubes always works well.

  67. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:52

    DKW, no Old Granddad?

  68. N__B said,

    November 1, 2012 at 1:53

    Smut speaks with the authority of experience.

  69. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 2:06

    Frm pst-2006 P blck: Srr, mllnnl dmn, tht ddn’t sb fr . *Rlsng sx rs f R dt* Dcks, frm prx-srvr-lnd, t ‘m. k?

  70. Cerberus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 2:16

    Best defense against being a troll? Immediately bouncing your IPs after getting yourself banned to try and defend yourself.

    On the original Daily Caller post itself, I think what strikes me is how he doesn’t even have a flicker of human reaction to getting caught on his bullshit. It’s just, oh, it was fake, well, niggers lie all the time too.

    Not even a flicker of pretense at shame in how the gaping lack of journalism was revealed on his publication. This is apparently a man with Mitt Romney levels of a lack of investment in his own horseshit.

  71. Anonymous said,

    November 1, 2012 at 2:24

    Whps! Tht’s n th ntrnt frvr. ws ls?

  72. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 2:32

    In OT news, Republican politician argues for forced birth in the event of rape leading to pregnancy, because abortion is “putting more violence onto a woman’s body”.

  73. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 1, 2012 at 2:35

    Too late, I believe AK and Smut have already comandeered a heavily armed steam yacht out of Dunedin.
    We just found it, lying around.
    We have a map!

    Living the life of R’lyeh!

  74. VCarlson said,

    November 1, 2012 at 2:46

    Living the life of R’lyeh!

    Could we send R’Ayn, too?

    On his own, of course, because he did it all himself.

  75. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 1, 2012 at 2:48

    Oh, a screen full of badgers doing jumping jacks!
    .

  76. VCarlson said,

    November 1, 2012 at 2:51

    In OT news, Republican politician argues for forced birth in the event of rape leading to pregnancy, because abortion is “putting more violence onto a woman’s body”.

    I assume this not the same patriarchal control freak who opined that an abortion was worse than rape? I should learn their names and faces, so I know who spit on, should I meet them IRL.

  77. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 1, 2012 at 3:06

    “But on the rape thing, it’s like, how does putting more violence onto a woman’s body and taking the life of an innocent child that’s a consequence of this crime, how does that make it better? You know what I mean?”

    That makes it better because SHE DOESN’T HAVE TO GESTATE HER RAPIST’S CHILD AND PUSH IT THROUGH HER BIRTH CANAL, YOU FUCKING MORON.

  78. CRA said,

    November 1, 2012 at 3:24

    Living the life of R’lyeh!

    Hoho that’s funny.

    “As a final point, our model requires that time passes exponentially more quickly on the outside of the bubble than on the inside. Such bubble of non-Euclidean geometry could be used to endure vast aeons of time while the universe outside it grows brittle with age.”

    I’ve seen this scenario somewhere. You come out and there’s nothing left to do. Smooth move, Einstein.

  79. tigris said,

    November 1, 2012 at 3:34

    Too late, I believe AK and Smut have already comandeered a heavily armed steam yacht out of Dunedin.
    We just found it, lying around.
    We have a map!

    Aw, man, will you wait until I get admitted to Miskatonic University before you get an expedition together?

  80. the vowels said,

    November 1, 2012 at 3:35

    The second time your anonymous post shows up without us, anyone who is aware of all internet traditions should understand that there really isn’t any point to keep posting in this neighborhood. Being disemvoweled may not hurt much, but it’s most definitely pointed.

  81. buy two clues get one free said,

    November 1, 2012 at 3:36

    go home vowelless scum

  82. N__B said,

    November 1, 2012 at 3:40

    Being disemvoweled may not hurt much

    Every man reading just crossed his legs.

  83. Babe Ruthless said,

    November 1, 2012 at 3:57

    Relevant
    http://ow.ly/eVJHu

  84. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 4:04

    PSA:

    If you’re interested in Windows 8, you can get Windows 8 Pro for $40.00 here.

    I’m looking at you from IE10 right now and I gotta say, you’re all way hotter in Windows 8

  85. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 4:08

    It does have an exceptionally nice bootloader for quick and easy dual boot. Windows 7 will partition your disk with a couple of mouse clicks…so it’s very simple to set up a dual boot with Windows 7.

  86. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 4:10

    “how does that make it better? You know what I mean?”

    No. I have no idea what you mean. I mean, I know I’m not a lady and stuff, but, uh, yeah. No clue, bro.

  87. CRA said,

    November 1, 2012 at 4:19

    “If you’re interested in Windows 8, you can get Windows 8 Pro for $40.00 here.”

    I’m concerned that Windows 8 was made to appeal to the type of person who already has certain devices that I don’t have or use, in spite of being able to afford them.

    I have a Blackberry that I pretty much use as a phone, a netbook that never gets used*, an iPod and an old Zune gather dust, and some kinda reader, not a Kindle … you guessed it, never used.

    For whatever reason I make heavy use of a desktop PC, including tower and monitor.

    *At least I used the netbook to try out Linux (Unbuntu). That was interesting.

  88. wiley said,

    November 1, 2012 at 4:49

    A woman and a small fairy princess just showed up at our door. Not knowing what else to do, we offered her a choice of three pieces of candy from a large orange bowl. It worked. They went away.

  89. Scott said,

    November 1, 2012 at 4:52

    Someone should introduce Justin Zatkoff to the Streisand Effect. Oh, wait, he already did that to himself…

  90. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 4:55

    I’m concerned that Windows 8 was made to appeal to the type of person who already has certain devices that I don’t have or use, in spite of being able to afford them.

    I’m using it on a desktop. It was made for those too. I’m one of those early adopter nerds. GOTTA HAVE IT CUZ NEW. That has proven to be a problem for me in the past, but I muddle through.

  91. Jeffraham Prestonian said,

    November 1, 2012 at 5:00

    I couldn’t see Win8 without a touchscreen monitor.

    And something resembling a processor.
    .

  92. Another Kiwi with extra coal said,

    November 1, 2012 at 5:08

    Well done Wiley. We had a toddler Zombie here last night that went away after being given a small chocolate bar. God knows where they come from.

  93. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 5:47

    I couldn’t see Win8 without a touchscreen monitor.

    yeah. I WANT ONE NOW

  94. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 6:06

    Windows 8 looks bad and unfinished.

    http://arstechnica.com/discipline/windows-8/

    Fortunately my Windows experience happens at work, and it’s exceedingly unlikely that I’ll see it within a few years, and maybe not at all if it goes the way of Vista.

  95. 5thKolumnisto said,

    November 1, 2012 at 6:15

    The IP blacklist here seems a bit broad. It took some effort for me just to read this page.

    Someone can fix that, right?

    Please?

  96. 5thKolumnisto said,

    November 1, 2012 at 6:23

    Can anyone between Sacramento and Eugene read this? Or is it just me?

    Derp.

  97. Pupienus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 6:31

    In OT news, Republican politician argues for forced birth in the event of rape leading to pregnancy, because abortion is “putting more violence onto a woman’s body”.

    That’s heinous. The GOP talking points manual section 3 paragraph 4.8 clearly says “two wrongs make a right.” Get it right or fear the wrath of Rove!

  98. John Revolta said,

    November 1, 2012 at 6:48

    Mmmmmmmmmm………………………..roasted punkin seeds…………………………

  99. Pupienus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 7:09

    I’m not between Sacramento and Eugene. I can’t read this either.

  100. Another Kiwi said,

    November 1, 2012 at 7:19

    Eugene don’t live here no more. Iffen you see him tell him to bring back my grill.

  101. Pupienus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 7:47

    Damn! I almost missed wishing everyone Merry Christmas!

    *OCT 31 = DEC 25

  102. bughunter: reanimator said,

    November 1, 2012 at 8:48

    Where I come from, trolls need to be killed using fire or acid to prevent them from coming back.

    Here, it seems much more difficult.

  103. jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    November 1, 2012 at 8:57

    There’s controversy … & then there’s archaeology. Saying that I remember (oh so dimly) the Tawanna Brawley case on the family steam-powered televisor = admitting that I’m old as dirt.

    Yow! Was there perchance a Chappaquiddick reference shoehorned in there too?

    Something strikes me: not that it’s an epidemic by any stretch, but every single REAL case of voter fraud in Amerika that I’ve heard of in the last few years has been on behalf of the GOP … from Coulter’s multiple registrations, to the lone Canuck they found in Florida (who didn’t even vote but was just using a fake GOP registration to get a gun) & a couple more beyond that. HMMMM.

    If you’re interested in Windows 8, you can get Windows 8 Pro for $40.00

    That’s a sweet price.
    IT’S A TRAP!!!

    I used Vista for circa four years, & I think I was the only person in North America who didn’t hate it like Limbaugh hates detox … it just didn’t give me any serious trouble, maybe because I waited for a later version, maybe because I disabled the “Aero” eyecandy. It’s still on my laptop, but I rarely boot it up any more.

    I switched over to Ubuntu on a whim in October, & despite some initial minor emotional trauma (due to my own cyber-derpitude more than the OS itself), I gotta say: I’m fartin’ through silk & shittin’ in clover here. Safe, fast, not a memory hog, with it my laptop now runs slightly cooler than before, relatively easy to pick up the basics of … & TOTALLY FREE? This is some goooooooood shit, yo.

    Also too, because I got a slightly earlier LTS (Long Term Support) system, it’s actually supported beyond the end-date of the most recent version. Precise Pangolin 12.04 FTW!

  104. jim the heretical anti-cliff lemming said,

    November 1, 2012 at 10:07

    Keep score at home!
    FUN!

  105. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 12:08

    I assume this not the same patriarchal control freak who opined that an abortion was worse than rape?
    I think this is a new one. They grow them in vats or something.
    I was impressed that he managed to break previous records for authoritarian paternalism. “A woman who’s been raped cannot be allowed to impose on herself the additional trauma of an abortifacient. For her OWN GOOD.”
    Does this mean that abortion is fine for women who have *not* been raped? Apparently not.

  106. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 15:10

    What blogging software do you blogging types use? I think it’s time I got one rolling-there are such interesting conversations in my head that beg to be shared with the world. The world may not agree, but the world deserves it!

  107. Thread Bear said,

    November 1, 2012 at 15:21

    Those manly, Republican, real American, galtian heroes sure do get beat up by the effeminate, limp-wristed liberals an awful lot these days. Have they caught the evil commies that beat up on Sean Kedzie yet?

  108. N__B said,

    November 1, 2012 at 15:38

    tsam –

    Google’s algorithms, in their infinite wisdom, decided on three separate occasions that I was spamming my own blog when it was at Blogger. Use WordPress.

  109. El Manque said,

    November 1, 2012 at 15:41

    I too vote for FYWP.

  110. El Manquecito said,

    November 1, 2012 at 15:42

    cito. Chingon.

  111. Pryme said,

    November 1, 2012 at 15:49

    there are such interesting conversations in my head that beg to be shared with the world. The world may not agree, but the world deserves it!

    If Creed can do it, why can’t you?

  112. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 16:09

    Google’s algorithms, in their infinite wisdom, decided on three separate occasions that I was spamming my own blog when it was at Blogger. Use WordPress.

    Well to be contrarian, I vote Blogger. My activity rate is such that I will never be flagged for spamming anything other than your mom. And I believe Blogger to be the lazier choice.

  113. 'natch said,

    November 1, 2012 at 16:15

    *How does the disemvoweller deal with ‘y’?

    Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t.

  114. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 16:36

    Jay Nordlinger on why he’ll vote Romney:

    I’m voting for Romney because

    He’s a good and decent man (as far as I can tell). An exceptionally good and decent man. (Though politics brings out elbows, to be sure. So does business.)

    He understands the economy. He’s a free-marketeer. He understands the importance of employers. He has ample business experience — useful in a president, especially now.

    When he says, “The economy is in my wheelhouse,” I believe that. I don’t think it’s merely a boast. During the primaries, he often said, “I’ll get that done.” Meaning the solving of some problem. “I’ll get that done.” I believe it.

    He is a “turnaround artist,” and this country is in sore need of a turnaround. As my colleague Kevin Williamson says, no one has ever been sorry he hired Mitt Romney to do a job.

    He is against abortion. He wasn’t always, apparently. I believe he is now. The testimony of Mary Ann Glendon, about his tenure in Massachusetts, is important. (Glendon is a professor of law at Harvard, and a leading opponent of abortion.)

    He would certainly not have taxpayers pay for abortions, as Obama is.

    Romney would respect the rule of law, I think. He’s very ambitious: Anyone who runs for president is. But I don’t think he’s power-mad. I think he would respect the rule of law — process; the Constitution.

    I believe he’s serious — actually serious — about entitlement reform. (As George W. Bush was. But it’s hard to be as bold as Bush, on Social Security and other matters.)

    I like his running mate, Congressman Ryan, a lot.

    Romney appreciates the rightful position of America in the world. That is, I think he has a good understanding of what America’s position ought to be. He is not ready to accept American decline, at home or abroad. He certainly would not welcome that decline. He understands America to be a force for good. He appreciates, I think, that decline is a choice, not an inevitability. And he chooses against.

    He knows the importance of Israel. He knows its vulnerability. He wants to do something about it.

    He would confront Iran. He would not flinch before it. I think he knows the folly of appeasement — the horrible consequences that so often flow from appeasement.

    While properly “realistic,” he appreciates democracy and human rights. And knows that America can, and should, be helpful in furthering those things.

    At the end of the 1984 vice-presidential debate, George Bush said, “I can’t tell you what a joy it is to serve with a president who will not apologize for the United States of America.” Geraldine Ferraro had the most perplexed look on her face. I knew exactly what Bush meant. I believe Romney would be the same kind of president.

    That does not mean he’d be arrogant, about America. We’re not perfect (as I spend almost every day writing). But we do a lot of good in the world.

    He would cancel Obama’s softness on the Castros — the kinder, gentler approach that has yielded absolutely nothing. (An American aid worker, Alan Gross, has been held hostage in Cuba for three years.)

    He would not be pushed around by the U.N. He would not crave the approval of the U.N. He would recognize the Human Rights Council for the sham it is.

    He would pursue missile defense, which Obama has stalled.

    He appreciates the helpfulness of a market — of competitiveness — in health care.

    He does not think that transferring certain responsibilities from the federal government to the states is some moral abdication.

    He has a sensible view of the environment: He wants to be a good steward, but at the same time is not an earth-worshiper. He does not think that man is automatically a rapist of the earth. I have a feeling he thinks the earth should actually serve man — which is heresy today, of course.

    He is willing to unleash American energy — or “legalize American energy,” in Michele Bachmann’s phrase.

    He is not beholden to the teachers’ unions. When he thinks of education, he thinks of young people, students — not unions.

    He does not go in for divisiveness. He doesn’t hate. He grants the humanity of the other side (even if the other side is unwilling to do the same).

    I like that he’s religious. There are plenty of wicked religious people, and plenty of saintly secular people. But I count his religious outlook and devotion as a good.

    I love — love — that he was willing to tell a left-wing heckler, “Corporations are people, my friend” — which they are. He calmly explained why. One of the best things I have ever seen in a campaign. (Watch it here.)

    I like his occasional goofiness, his squareness. His 1950s language, which the Left loves to mock and revile. Makes me admire Mitt all the more.

    In office, he would talk plainly. He would not call the War on Terror “overseas contingency operations,” or terrorism “man-made disaster.”

    I think he’s the right man at the right time. A turnaround artist who ought to be hired by us, the people, to turn us around, before it’s too late.

  115. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 16:37

    I had a blog deleted by blogger but I kind of WAS spamming it: I had a Google news alert set up to autopost to it and let it be.

  116. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    November 1, 2012 at 16:38

    FYWP has annoyed the hell out of me just as much as blooger (although I hate the new blooger editor).

    And then there’s FSMdamned Typepad…
    ~

  117. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 16:55

    There’s a new blooger editor?

  118. N__B said,

    November 1, 2012 at 16:56

    Tina Brown.

  119. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:04

    Cool. I’ll check ‘em out. Thanks, guys!

  120. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:19

    PENIS.

  121. Chyron HR said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:20

    I’m voting for Romney because:

    He’s the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

  122. Pupienus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:21

    Cockpunch

  123. Pryme said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:25

    Jay Nordlinger on why he’ll vote Romney:

    Sweet Baby Jesus on a Pogo Stick. Every. Single. “Reason” was a projection (I know) devoid of facts, logic and/or precedent.

    What gets me is that these guys get paid in American currency to write this crap.

  124. Pupienus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:25

    Oh please. Limbaugh: Chris Christie is fat.

    Self awareness level: 0

    Also too FYWP

  125. CRA said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:27

    I know Nordlinger is trying to quickly hit all his points, but in doing so he comes across as a bit of a simpleton, doesn’t he?

    During the primaries, he often said, “I’ll get that done.” Meaning the solving of some problem. “I’ll get that done.” I believe it.

    Every single point that could be contested, has; in this format, Nordlinger can just pretend the finer details support his conclusions, but they never do. Then there are Nordlinger’s opinions (vote for Romney’s “1950s goofiness” because it pisses off liberals), which are irrelevant in any case, but also foolish.

  126. Pupienus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:34

    HAHAHAHAHAHA. Latest Republican Family Values sex scandal ma me LOL heartily

    Tom Horne caused more than $1,000 worth of damage when he clipped another car in a parking garage and just drove off, in order, according to FBI agents, to conceal an affair he was having with his passenger. Phoenix police records obtained Tuesday include detailed witness accounts by FBI agents who were following Horne, Arizona’s attorney general, on March 27 as part of a campaign finance investigation.

    http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2012/10/arizona-attorney-general-tom-sanctity.html

  127. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:36

    During the primaries, he often said, “I’ll get that done.” Meaning the solving of some problem. “I’ll get that done.” I believe it.

    oh, yes…but if somebody else simply says, ‘i’ll get it done’ without offering the how, well, that’s a different story all together…see, i read that ‘i’ll get it done’ with an unspoken, ‘in the most lucrative way to benefit myself as humanly possible’…

  128. tigris said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:49

    Jay Nordlinger on why he’ll vote Romney:

    Tribal loyalty

    Because really, there is no other reason these guys would pick a former Massachusetts governor whose only accomplishment in office was what they consider socialized medicine.

  129. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:52

    During the primaries, he often said, “I’ll get that done.” Meaning the solving of some problem.

    If Romney should win, I don’t see how he could possibly govern, given all the absurd promises he’s made. Jobs for everyone, $2 gasoline, mandatory medical care without mandatory insurance, and maybe blowjobs from starlets for all I know (I stopped paying attention last month).

  130. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:57

    woot! i will take it! mnn just reported that in mn, obama’s at 50%, mittens at 47% and those pesky undecideds at 3…last week mittens had the edge…

  131. tigris said,

    November 1, 2012 at 17:59

    During the primaries, he often said, “I’ll get that done.” Meaning the solving of some problem. “I’ll get that done.” I believe it.

    He also said government can’t do many of the things he said he’ll get done. Maybe Nordlinger doesn’t believe that.

  132. Operationally Systematic Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:04

    The best thing about Windows 8 is that I’ll probably finally get around to upgrading some of our old XP machines. To Windows 7.

  133. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:04

    I like that he’s religious. There are plenty of wicked religious people, and plenty of saintly secular people. But I count his religious outlook and devotion as a good.

    mitt told me that when i die i will get baptized and get my own planet and lots of spirit babies! neato! i believe him!

  134. N__B said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:09

    If I get my own planet full of spirit babes, okay. A planet full of babies sounds like a lot of work.

  135. Oregon Beer Jedi said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:13

    DisneyStarPrincessWars update:

    I’ll reserve judgment until I see if and where it actually ends up going, but Lucas is supposedly giving the bulk of the $4 billion he’s making on the deal to “education programs.”

  136. DataSnake said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:16

    If he had hit himself in the face, he might have had a copyright in the injuries, but as it stands the only one with a copyright in that shiner is Justin’s “buddy” who had enough of Justin’s assholery and clocked him.

    If you’ve got a black eye, you didn’t build that!

  137. vacuumslayer said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:17

    tsam, I think blogger is more straightforward, intuitive, and user-friendly. I think wordpress is more elegant, sophisticated and offers more neat perks and attractive themes. I think WP–when it’s not fucking you–has a superior comment system.

  138. CRA said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:21

    … and plenty of saintly secular people.

    Be careful, Jay. Most of your tribe thinks Christian faith is a prerequisite for acting ethically or morally. They categorically deny that secular humanism can provide a person with the guidelines or capacities need a decent (let alone “saintly”) life. Non-Christian religions offer no real help, either.

    We’ve been over this. To be an irreligious or atheistic American is to be told repeatedly that you can’t tell right from wrong, period. If the telling makes you mad or unhappy, say nothing — if you do, you’re victimizing the believers. And it’s not like this stuff is marginal to Nordlinger’s point or choice of candidates. What I’m saying is their party line, really.

  139. CRA said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:23

    Correction: “… capacities needed to live a decent …”

  140. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:34

    One reason I like blooger (other than already having googly accounts) is because it was easy to setup posting via email or sms/mms from my phone. I have no idea if FYWP is better or worse in that regard.

  141. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:36

    One reason I like blooger (other than already having googly accounts) is because it was easy to setup posting via email or sms/mms from my phone. I have no idea if FYWP is better or worse in that regard.

    i went with fywp just because i didn’t know from any others and also, too the foundation’s website is fywp fired…so it was good practice for that…

  142. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:38

    They categorically deny that secular humanism can provide a person with the guidelines or capacities need a decent (let alone “saintly”) life. Non-Christian religions offer no real help, either.

    heard a really good show on mpr a few weeks back about that…they mostly coverd the agnostic/atheist angle, but yeah…if you don’t believe in babby jebus, welp YOU ARE INFRINGING ON MY RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES!!!

  143. Maureen Staplegun said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:39

    I think he’s the right man at the right time. A turnaround artist who ought to be hired by us, the people, to turn us around, before it’s too late.

    Hiring somebody for a turnaround? Is this an endorsement of Romney or a review on Rentboy.com?

  144. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:40

    I have added my thoughts to the Nordlinger piece. I apologize both for it’s length and for America, just cause it seem to piss off Jay

    He’s a good and decent man (as far as I can tell). An exceptionally good and decent man. (Though politics brings out elbows, to be sure. So does business.)

    So he’s a good man, except when he’s at work? When we as the American public need him to be good? I mean it’s great for his family that he’s a good guy when he’s off the clock, (except for the occasional mistreatment of the family dog) but we really need a guy to act with integrity and honesty, when he’s running the country too.

    He understands the economy. He’s a free-marketeer. He understands the importance of employers. He has ample business experience — useful in a president, especially now

    He understands tax loopholes, I’ll give him that. I don’t think the American economy will be fixed by hiding it’s income in the Cayman Islands or Switzerland though. I suppose if he could realize the kind of returns on the economy that he’s been getting on his 401k or his allegedly bind trust, that would be something, but I’m not sure the same schemes that work with a couple million dollars, work with a couple trillion.

    When he says, “The economy is in my wheelhouse,” I believe that. I don’t think it’s merely a boast. During the primaries, he often said, “I’ll get that done.” Meaning the solving of some problem. “I’ll get that done.” I believe it.
    Jay, that’s cause you are what P.T. Barnum referred to as a “Sucker”.

    He is a “turnaround artist,” and this country is in sore need of a turnaround. As my colleague Kevin Williamson says, no one has ever been sorry he hired Mitt Romney to do a job.

    It’s a good thing turnaround artist is in quotes, it implies the title is alleged and demands further scrutiny. As a turnaround artist, Romeny and Bain made hundreds of millions by loading companies up with debt, selling off their assets, outsourcing to china and auctioning off the remains. Maybe no one was ever sorry they hired Romney, but there are thousands who are real sorry he got hired.

    He is against abortion. He wasn’t always, apparently. I believe he is now. The testimony of Mary Ann Glendon, about his tenure in Massachusetts, is important. (Glendon is a professor of law at Harvard, and a leading opponent of abortion.)

    He probably is against abortion. That what he had to say to get nominated anyway. It’s hard to tell where his values are, they appear to change weekly, depending on his audience or which way the wind is blowing. Even if he were rock solid against abortion it’s not like that is some morally defensible position anyway, forcing a woman to carry and give birth to a child she’s not ready to care for, is no definition of compassion or mercy I’ve ever heard of. And don’t give me that crap about the potential life of a child either, given his lack of support for public prenatal health care of any kind shows just how much he cares for the health and well being of America’s babies.

    Romney would respect the rule of law, I think. He’s very ambitious: Anyone who runs for president is. But I don’t think he’s power-mad. I think he would respect the rule of law — process; the Constitution

    Except for the troubling parts of law he doesn’t like. Like the court decisions legalizing abortion, Obamacare and stopping the Keystone pipeline.

    I believe he’s serious — actually serious — about entitlement reform. (As George W. Bush was. But it’s hard to be as bold as Bush, on Social Security and other matters.)

    I too believe he is serious about ending social security and medicare, robbing millions of hardworking American’s of insurance and income they bought and paid into for their entire working careers.

    I like his running mate, Congressman Ryan, a lot.

    because, you are as mentioned earlier, a sucker.

    Romney appreciates the rightful position of America in the world. That is, I think he has a good understanding of what America’s position ought to be. He is not ready to accept American decline, at home or abroad. He certainly would not welcome that decline. He understands America to be a force for good. He appreciates, I think, that decline is a choice, not an inevitability. And he chooses against.

    Because Romney thinks the American dominance of the workd for the second half of the twentieth century was a god given manifest destiny and not the consequence of being the last industrial power not bombed and starved to shit during the second world war. He belives we have the right to run the world for our own benifit with complete impunity and total disregard for the well being of the 5,700,000,000 who don’t have the good luck to be born in America. He doens’t see that like Rome, Spain and England we are exhausting our nation treasury growing and policing the our empire of client states, to the detriment of our standard of living and infrastucture and even, ironically, our own security.

    He knows the importance of Israel. He knows its vulnerability. He wants to do something about it.

    Isreal is important because our only loyal ally in the middle east. It was a colony set up at the end of WWII by Jewish true belivers and allowed to propagate by a combination of international survivers guilt and realpolitik. It has grown into the worst kind of “let’s you and him fight” ally. It also figures prominently in the apocalyptic fantasies of his most religiously credulous supporters.

    He would confront Iran. He would not flinch before it. I think he knows the folly of appeasement — the horrible consequences that so often flow from appeasement.

    Because isolating repressive regimes always works. That’s how come we don’t have to worry about communist Cuba or North Korea any more. Unless you think we need to put a third war on America’s credit card?

    While properly “realistic,” he appreciates democracy and human rights. And knows that America can, and should, be helpful in furthering those things.

    Which means I suppose that he hates torture, but wont go so far as to stop using it, or condemn our realpolitik allies of convenience whose respect for those same values is tenuous at best.

    At the end of the 1984 vice-presidential debate, George Bush said, “I can’t tell you what a joy it is to serve with a president who will not apologize for the United States of America.” Geraldine Ferraro had the most perplexed look on her face. I knew exactly what Bush meant. I believe Romney would be the same kind of president.

    Because the USA has never done anything at all wrong and apologies are for sissies, never mind that sometimes a well timed, appropriate, and sincere apology can do more for international relationships than pounding another village flat, or blowing up another wedding reception from a drone launched missile.

    That does not mean he’d be arrogant, about America. We’re not perfect (as I spend almost every day writing). But we do a lot of good in the world.

    We do do a lot of good in the world, but When is the last time Mitt Romney spoke up about the peace corps or defended public television?

    He would cancel Obama’s softness on the Castros — the kinder, gentler approach that has yielded absolutely nothing. (An American aid worker, Alan Gross, has been held hostage in Cuba for three years.)

    The most relaxed US-Cuba relations in a half century are really terrible. Now travel restrictions have eased the Cuban people are enjoying freedoms they haven’t had since 1960 or so. Yeah it sucks Alex Gross is in prison.

    He would not be pushed around by the U.N. He would not crave the approval of the U.N. He would recognize the Human Rights Council for the sham it is.

    Oh how, we suffer under the yoke of the toothless internation organization, which is still the best forum for resolving international disputes without having to dispatch another very expensive aircraft carrier. Also, way to disparage a very useful and effective organization in fighting disease and famine, or do you miss smallpox?

    He would pursue missile defense, which Obama has stalled.
    because giving more hundreds of billions of dollars to Boeing and Raytheon might give us what? A few more rigged demos? A hundred billion dollar tool that might stop 20- 30% of a serious nuclear attack? A reason for Russia and China to build a new generation of missiles that would render that boondoggle obsolete?

    He appreciates the helpfulness of a market — of competitiveness — in health care.

    As if the creation of a competitive market for health insurance isn’t the core of both Romneycare in Mass. and Obamacare everywhere in the US.

    He does not think that transferring certain responsibilities from the federal government to the states is some moral abdication.

    No it is an unconscionable financial abdication in the face of realitites that are too big for any one state to handle alone. Does he think that Louisiana could have rebuilt after Katrina without federal help? Is he asking the enire northeast to rebuild on their own following Hurricane Sandy? We help each other because sooner or later, we are all in this together.

    He has a sensible view of the environment: He wants to be a good steward, but at the same time is not an earth-worshiper. He does not think that man is automatically a rapist of the earth. I have a feeling he thinks the earth should actually serve man — which is heresy today, of course.

    He is willing to unleash American energy — or “legalize American energy,” in Michele Bachmann’s phrase.

    And the interests of mining, logging and agriculture always trump those of the citizens to breath clean air, drink clean water and have healthy food to eat. No sacrifice is too big if it means we can drill one more oil well, or flatten another mountain in West virginia, because somebody’s losing money if oil isn’t getting drilled or the coal trains aren’t running. And screw solar and wind power, that doens’t make exxon any money.

    He is not beholden to the teachers’ unions. When he thinks of education, he thinks of young people, students — not unions.

    He thinks of all the money somebody can make running charter schools, and how easy it will be to cut funding for public schools when their strongeset defenders, teacher’s unions, have been silenced.

    He does not go in for divisiveness. He doesn’t hate. He grants the humanity of the other side (even if the other side is unwilling to do the same).

    He smiles while he implements an agenda that brings back the monopolies, wealth inquality and general misery of the Gilded Age? Thanks, I guess.

    I like that he’s religious. There are plenty of wicked religious people, and plenty of saintly secular people. But I count his religious outlook and devotion as a good.

    He proudly embraces a frontier patent medicine salesman’s reimagining of bronze age mythology! He unapologetically practices and donates millions to the largest private landowner in Utah. He selflessly spent two years in France spreading the good news instead of fighting the war he supported so ardently in college. He follows in the traditions of his ancestors who fled to Mexico to practice their polygamy unmolested by the US to which they promptly returned when the Mexican revolution started looking dicey.

    I love — love — that he was willing to tell a left-wing heckler, “Corporations are people, my friend” — which they are. He calmly explained why. One of the best things I have ever seen in a campaign. (Watch it here.)

    I will believe corporations are people when Mitt gets indicted for killing any of the ones he has broken up and sold for parts. Corporations are no more “people” than soccer teams, jazz choirs or street gangs. Corporations funnel labor down, profits up and responsibility for cleanup to the taxpayer. They are effcient at making money period, and the public needs to keep them on a short leash to make sure they don’t cut corners on health, safety, pollution, or fraud on the way to the bank.

    I like his occasional goofiness, his squareness. His 1950s language, which the Left loves to mock and revile. Makes me admire Mitt all the more.

    Yep that goofy charm will sure soften the blow when his economic policy puts me or my neighbors out of work.

    In office, he would talk plainly. He would not call the War on Terror “overseas contingency operations,” or terrorism “man-made disaster.”

    He would not refrain from using words that dog-whistle the bloodthirstiest element of America and rule out any kind rational discussion of proportional response.

    I think he’s the right man at the right time. A turnaround artist who ought to be hired by us, the people, to turn us around, before it’s too late.

    He is a turnaround artist. He is ready to do the final turnaround of the American republic and finally put an end to the long suffering government of the people by the people for the people. Romeny’s goal is a government of the filthy rich for the filthy rich by the filthy rich. Every job he’s ever had has been tearing down and selling out. He’s been running the race to the bottom his entire working career, except for that time he spent begging for government billions to “save the olympics” for the benefit of business and property owners in Utah. He will finally end the social safety net that’s been keeping millions in their homes and off the streets since the new deal.

  145. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:44

    The best thing about Windows 8 is that I’ll probably finally get around to upgrading some of our old XP machines. To Windows 7.

    Solid. I like 7 and am giving 8 a pass because the quality of MS OS’s alternates every major release.

  146. kg said,

    November 1, 2012 at 18:54

    OBJ, I just read an interesting article about AB INBEV. Not sure how much you care about the world of mass produced beer but its a pretty good (if depressing) read. Guess this should just give me a kick in the ass to start brewing my own delicious beer.

  147. Pupienus said,

    November 1, 2012 at 19:16

    A planet full of babies sounds like a lot of work tender, milk fed meat .

  148. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 19:30

    OBJ, I just read an interesting article about AB INBEV. Not sure how much you care about the world of mass produced beer but its a pretty good (if depressing) read.

    Yeah, that was a good read. That CEO seems like he’d be best buddies with Rmoney.

    It’s hard to believe they’ve managed to make Budweiser worse. I can’t say I’m too saddened by the changes in Beck’s or Bud. I was amused by the discussion of saving money in Bud by not buying whole grain rice anymore, the broken stuff is fine. Rice is not supposed to be there in the first place, fuckers!

    Guess this should just give me a kick in the ass to start brewing my own delicious beer.

    Yes, yes it should! Until you do, find craft brewers that are local (or as close as possible) to you and buy from them. No reason to buy crappy beer from an international megacorp.

  149. kg said,

    November 1, 2012 at 19:39

    I got a kick out of the rice comment too.
    Actually I’ve done a bit more reading on the Goose Island takeover. It seems that they’re leaving some of the more interesting selections (Bourbon County Stout, etc.) alone and even helping the GI brewers out (more money!). Now what happens to Honker’s Ale or 312 is anyone’s guess but those were somewhat middling to begin with.
    We’ve got an explosion of craft brew here in Chicago so I’ll never have to turn to megabeer.
    I bought the Papazian book and will be gathering supplies in the coming weeks!!!

  150. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 19:41

    I’m not sure about the state of WordPress, but Blogger’s spam filter is really excellent. It’s been a long long time since a false positive.

  151. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 1, 2012 at 19:56

    Rice is not supposed to be there in the first place, fuckers!

    If memory serves, rice, corn and any other shit grain that’s not supposed to be in beer are collectively known as “adjuncts.” I’ve always considered that one of the weirdest euphemisms in the food/beverage industry.

  152. vs only buttchugs classy wines like Riunite Peach said,

    November 1, 2012 at 19:59

    Yeah, Akismet is pretty terrible.

  153. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:02

    Yeah, Akismet is pretty terrible.

    same thing with azkeban…

  154. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:03

    Probably the worst thing about the new blogger interface for me is that I usually only use the HTML editor, and it’s big and blank; seems to take a little more work to remember to title or label or schedule.

    The complaints about the editor change seem to ordinarily involve the Compose option and not the HTML option.

  155. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:08

    tsam, I think blogger is more straightforward, intuitive, and user-friendly

    I like that!

  156. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:11

    I also don’t think you can stick drag-and-drop widgetry or other scripts into the free WordPress option. Obviously you want your cursor to look like a bloody knife.

  157. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:16

    I also don’t think you can stick drag-and-drop widgetry or other scripts into the free WordPress option. Obviously you want your cursor to look like a bloody knife.

    you can drop and drag widgetry with the free one, but i don’t know about other scripts because i never thought of a kick ass cursos such as the bloody knife…how would one go about doing that sort of thing…afafwhoisnottsam…

  158. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:21

    Gee, why did the Michigan Republican Party fire Justin Zatkoff?

  159. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:27

    Hmm, apparently you can do bloody knife with CSS. That seems like the best way to go.

  160. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:31

    Better link:

    http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_class_cursor.asp

  161. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:33

    you can drop and drag widgetry with the free one

    Hmm. I coulda sworn I looked through all the docs for that…but maybe I mean “hosted by WordPress” and not just “free”. Or maybe I’m totally wrong.

  162. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:34

    Hmm. I coulda sworn I looked through all the docs for that…but maybe I mean “hosted by WordPress” and not just “free”. Or maybe I’m totally wrong.

    and i might mean that there are free widgetry you can drag and drop in the free version and not at all what you mean…because knowing you, you meant widgetry of your own making?

  163. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:39

    Dragging the widget.

  164. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:40

    What I mean is I want the ability to drag things onto Scott Stapp’s enticingly large forehead. If I can have that I might want to leave Blogger just because I have a general gripe against the way Google’s doing things lately.

  165. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:41

    well i was just checking it out and to have full css control, you have to upgrade to a paid version…

  166. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:45

    and did you really have to drag that out and show it to me? you are well aware of my weakness for time-wasting…why do you torture me so????

  167. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:46

    also, you guys were funneh all the way back in aught-9…i can’t speak about aught-6, but i bet you were still funneh…

  168. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:51

    gross! a lady on teh radio just dedicated merle haggard’s ‘my favorite memory of all’ which i thought was kinda sweet until ‘the night we made love in the hall’…

  169. N__B said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:54

    Monty Hall?

  170. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:55

    I think such sweet thoughts of grandma.

  171. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:57

    Jay Nordlinger on why he’ll vote Romney:

    What a fortunate coincidence that Nordlinger’s disinterest in writing long sentences should mesh so well with his audience’s disinterest in reading them.

  172. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 20:59

    okay, now i am disturbed because i neglected to mention that she dedicated the song to HER DAD…and sub totally caught on…

  173. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:01

    I want the ability to drag things onto Scott Stapp’s enticingly large forehead.

    That Righteous Bubba was pretty funny.

  174. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:03

    Should have been Daddy’s Girl of course. “He loves me like I was his son.”

  175. vacuumslayer said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:05

    same thing with azkeban…

    bbkf becomes more and more intriguing. Now we know she spent time in a made-up magic prison.

  176. tigris said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:08

    That Righteous Bubba was pretty funny.

    But was he here in 2005? No, really, because I can’t be arsed to looking.

  177. N__B said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:08

    Who hasn’t?

  178. tsam said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:09

    Monty Hall?

    Tom T, actually.

  179. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:11

    Tom T. Hall has some wisdom to share.

  180. Pryme said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:26

    Y’all can listen to Nate Silver and use those “polls” all ya want, but I know the tried and true ways of determining our next president.

  181. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:28

    tried and true ways of determining our next president.

    Gutting Nerdlinger and reading his entrails?

  182. kg said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:32

    Best caption from the Cracked link :

    “To be fair, Governor Dewey did win the majority of deez.”
    “Deez, Mr. President?”
    “Deez nuts!”

  183. Another Kiwi said,

    November 1, 2012 at 21:53

    Tom T Hall International Man of Mystery

  184. bughunter said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:02

    I just read the AB InBev article too, and was disappointed but unsurprised to learn that the same company was responsible for ruining almost all of the once-favorite beers that I’ve largely abandoned in the past decade or so: Boddingtons, Bass, Becks… and Red Hook too. Combined with the commercialization of Harp and Guinness and Tooth Sheaf Stout, I’m left with few good things I can reliably find at food stores. I’m willing to buy locally brewed brands when I can find them… especially on tap at brew pubs. (Yay for Congregation Ale House Chapters!)

    And thank FSM for Trader Joe’s. Murphy’s is still reasonably good, and Full Sail’s universally great beers are also not too hard to find. Most TJ’s carry both.

  185. Caliph Garret said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:05

    Mayor Bloomberg just endorsed Obama for president.

    Bobo must be having a grand mal sad right about now. How—sniff—partisan of his centrist hero!

  186. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:30

    I just read the AB InBev article too, and was disappointed but unsurprised to learn that the same company was responsible for ruining almost all of the once-favorite beers

    I for one am confident that the hostile reaction from consumers — unwilling to drink a beer made from factory sweepings and reduced to the level of an industrial by-product — will force the multinational owner to restore Budweiser to its previous quality.

  187. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:32

    Obama endorsement from the Economist will ensure him the sought-after McArdle vote.

  188. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:32

    And thank FSM for Trader Joe’s. Murphy’s is still reasonably good, and Full Sail’s universally great beers are also not too hard to find. Most TJ’s carry both.

    Stay far, far away from TJ’s house brand beers though, the couple I’ve tried have been absolutely fucking horrible. I mean terribly, undrinkably horrible.

  189. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:36

    restore Budweiser to its previous quality.

    Back by popular demand! “Classic Bud” — with nothing but the finest whole grain rice and GMO corn!

  190. Comrade Rutherford said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:40

    So just for fun I put Justin’s name into Google.

    Oh, dear, he is a naughty boy. Seems to think Karl Rove is a wuss.

    #1 result: His fake story from 2006

    #3 Michigan GOP hires him *because* he “faced allegations of illegal campaign finance activity, immoral behavior (including posing semi-naked for sexually explicit photos, which can be seen at http://leoninjustin.blogspot.com/), corruption, and even filing a false police report”, and that’s exactly the thing the GOP needs him to do for them.

    #5 describes just what he did for the Michigan GOP in just three months: “unorthodox voting tactics at the Mackinac Republican Leadership Conference, a threatened lawsuit against the University of Michigan chapter of the College Republicans, and the ultimate departure of several university chapters from the Michigan Federation of College Republicans.” Because of Justin’s good work for the MI-GOP over those three months, he was “selected as regional field director of the Michigan Victory Center by the Republican National Committee.”

    #7 is an article from 2007 from a blog that was recently taken down (I wonder why?)

    #8 is from an article on TMZ from Oct 2008 that says, “Flashforward to last month — Zatkoff, now chair of the Michigan Federation of College Republicans, was fired from his position within the Republican National Committee’s “Victory ’08″ Campaign. According to the Michigan Review, Zatkoff was fired after he stole 300,000 pieces of campaign literature from Michigan campaign headquarters.”

    #9 is an April 2008 blog about a GOP candidate who actually seems embarrassed by Justin because “…Zatkoff‘s efforts were possibly breaking campaign finance law [because] his “volunteers” are actually being paid to knock doors for Joe Knollenberg.”

    and the number 10 Google search result for Justin Zatkoff: “Justin Zatkoff – Copyright Removal Requests”

    So this guy is quite the criminal: perfect Presidential Candidate for Today’s Republican Party!

  191. kg said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:41

    Stay far, far away from TJ’s house brand beers though, the couple I’ve tried have been absolutely fucking horrible. I mean terribly, undrinkably horrible.

    They put out a “Vintage Ale” under their own label once a year but its actually make by Uniboue (heh). Nobody in my family likes it but I’ve continued to buy and enjoy a few bottles every year.

  192. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:50

    AB InBev has managed to make Bud light worse? Do they now degrease rusty ball bearings with it before they bottle it? I’m not sure the way to fight microbreweries is to make macro-brewed beer even thinner and less flavorful.

  193. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:50

    They put out a “Vintage Ale” under their own label once a year but its actually make by Uniboue (heh). Nobody in my family likes it but I’ve continued to buy and enjoy a few bottles every year.

    Unibroue makes some good stuff, so that makes perfect sense.

    The stuff I tried was made by some mega brewery (from SoCal I think) and labeled by TJ. Can’t remember whether it was a brown ale or a pale or what, but it smelled and tasted like band-aids stewed with broccoli and cabbage. Quite the tasty treat.

  194. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:52

    I’m not sure the way to fight microbreweries is to make macro-brewed beer even thinner and less flavorful.

    People quoted in the article actually dismiss that saying (essentially) “Screw you, the Chinese like lighter beers better anyway.”

  195. Ruthie said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:52

    So Justin will graduate in 2014 from what is commonly referred to as a “third tier toilet” of a law school, STILL having learned nothing about the Doctrine of Fair Use. His academic achievements to date include: nepotism, participation in the Michigan Tea Party’s Phone Annoyance Task Force, and proofreading articles by academic wannabes who couldn’t get published in law journals published by first or second tier law schools.

  196. Bitter Scribe said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:53

    Budweiser should remember what happened to Schlitz. Cheapening the beer, combined with an offensive ad campaign (S,Ners of a certain age will remember the “Drink Schlitz or I’ll Kill You” TV spots) destroyed what had been one of America’s major beer brands in less than two years.

  197. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:53

    i have recently been enamored of shock top’s ‘pumpkin wheat’ also, whoever makes that chocolate stuff…

  198. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:55

    Teh Duck Duck Go results for Justin Zatkoff are headed by accounts of his mendacity, but not overwhelmed by them, so that’s the go-to place for researching Justin Zatkoff’s triumphant career in student politics.

  199. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:57

    Re: Unibroue

    Trois-Pistoles!!!!!

  200. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:59

    People quoted in the article actually dismiss that saying (essentially) “Screw you, the Chinese like lighter beers better anyway.”

    I know, I read the article, and my take away is they are the Bain Capital of macrobreweries. Fire everyone not directly brewing or delivering beer, sell off any assets not nailed down, buy the cheapest ingredients that aren’t labeled ‘wood pulp’ and raise prices. It sure is a strategy for getting record profits for a quarter or two. Until people realize brewing isn’t rocket surgery, and that they can get better beer at better prices by shopping locally or brewing their own.

  201. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:59

    so, i was wondering how the ol’ barrister outhouse fared during last evening’s halloween festivities…either she huddled in a darkened house, had no children dare stop by, or the neighborhood children were completely cowed by her and meade’s diatribe of last year and behaved most excellently this year…she has no halloweenish anecdotes anyhoo…i did find myself quite unsurprised to find further down page that she didn’t think the madison cops should feel bad for taking homeless people’s belongings off of sidewalks…

    also, in-between there appears to be some mockery of east coasters…

  202. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 22:59

    I’m looking at you from IE10 right now and I gotta say, you’re all way hotter in Windows 8

    And a buncha Frenchies are probably watching you.

  203. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:00

    young’s double chocolate stout…that’s it!

  204. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:03

    His academic achievements to date include: nepotism, participation in the Michigan Tea Party’s Phone Annoyance Task Force, and proofreading articles by academic wannabes who couldn’t get published in law journals published by first or second tier law schools.

    Sounds like he’s got a great start on his way to becoming a Republican congressman. Or supreme court justice.

  205. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:05

    Trois-Pistoles!!!!!

    If I’m remembering correctly I like their “Maudite” and “La Fin Du Monde” — and love their naming scheme.

  206. CRA said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:10

    People quoted in the article actually dismiss that saying (essentially) “Screw you, the Chinese like lighter beers better anyway.”

    Hehe. That might matter if the Chinese were any good at influencing American tastes.

  207. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:10

    I never really got Fin du Monde. Too yeasty for me. Maudite, I can say nothing bad about.

    But hands down, my favourite Unibroue is Trois Pistoles. It is also the funniest name to yell out loud in a drunken stupor. TROIS PISTOLES!!!!

  208. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:12

    I believe this Twitter link needs to be countered with Justin Zatkoff’s bio.

  209. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:16

    Re: naming schemes

    Trois Pistoles (Three Coins) is named after a small village of Quebec. Founded over 300 years ago, Trois Pistoles gave birth to several legends, including one about the Black Horse. It involved a local bishop who conjured up a good devil (appearing in the form of bridled black steed) to haul large brick stones to construct a new church. When someone accidentally removed the bridle, the black horse suddenly vanished just as the last remaining stone was to be set. This stone is still missing, as can be seen when visiting the local church.

    The one for Maudite is pretty good too.

  210. bbkf said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:17

    i was just over at my board pres’ office…he gave me a roadkill raccoon, a gummy eyeball and a chocolate coin from his halloween stash…he said the biggest hit at the baptist howlejujah alternative halloween bash was bloody brains…i was all, ‘i thought there wasn’t supposed to be anything gross there!’ and he just looked at me and said, ‘ach…i don’t let that stop me!’ sometimes i really, really like him…

  211. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:19

    The one for Maudite is pretty good too.

    Can’t remember that one. Hic.

  212. Whale Chowder said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:19

    Back by popular demand! “Classic Bud” — with nothing but the finest whole grain rice and GMO corn!

    Filtered through only the finest Clydesdales.

  213. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:25

    This beer discussion is torture — it’s a hour-and-a-half until happy hour starts!

  214. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:28

    I believe this Twitter link needs to be countered with Justin Zatkoff’s bio.

    Some nasty person has hacked Zatkoff’s smartphone so that his attempt to finish each sentence shows up as an exclamation mark rather than a full stop.

  215. Smut Clyde said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:31

    It sure is a strategy for getting record profits for a quarter or two.

    That does appear to be their business model. The only way the corporation can keep its share price high is to impress investors by periodically buying out already-profitable companies and cutting the quality of their products.

  216. El Manquecito said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:39

    After a couple of months on a fone I happen to be sitting at a pooter now and can’t resist some beer talk. In the misty past when we dreamed of quality American beers it never occurred to most of us that there might be a microbrew for every micromarket and they might suck. Now 30 years into the new beer world I’d be hard pressed to say things have improved over 1980. I’m in Maine right now and there are two successful microbrewers on my road, neither of whom make anything I can drink. With the new fad for extreme beers things are even worse; high gravity beers, thick with unfermented sugars and secret ingredients, fermented hot to maximize equipment cost, full of weird, neverbefore tasted off-flavours, non-ethanol yeast byproducts and remote hints of whatever crap the label alleges.

    I know things are lots better out west, that some of the really good brewers from the first wave are insistently making delicious, consistent beer but it’s gotten so bad in the east that I only drink expensive beers if someone else buys.

    Is it so much to ask, a regular session beer made from barley, hops, yeast and water, fermented carefully and served at its peak? Apparently so. I make about 40 gallons a year, maybe I’m addicted to that great tax free taste.

  217. kg said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:40

    Thirded on Trois Pistoles. Had it on tap at a family funtime jamboree and was blown away.

  218. kg said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:47

    El Manq,
    I think Great Lakes out of Cleveland might suit you. Not sure how far and wide they distribute though.

  219. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:53

    Is it so much to ask, a regular session beer made from barley, hops, yeast and water, fermented carefully and served at its peak?

    Oh come on. Who doesn’t long for the taste of amaranth or wild rice or spelt or whatever other weird ass grain momentarily cheaper than barley in their beer?

  220. El Manquecito said,

    November 1, 2012 at 23:57

    Quinoa dude. Nobody uses amaranth any more.

  221. El Manquecito said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:00

    The latest entrant in the mid-coast Maine brewing game is offering a saison (invisible scare quotes) made with spelt from a local farm worked by horses. I know the farmer and like him and wish him the best but the beer is just not any good.

  222. Smut Clyde said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:01

    Quinoa and taro, sir.

  223. bughunter said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:03

    I mean terribly, undrinkably horrible.

    Unfortunately, I discovered this on my own, but if there’s a silver lining, it was so horrible that will not repeat the error.

  224. Smut Clyde said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:06

    An idle glance at a discussion group on gluten-free brewing (amaranth, millet, quinoa and buckwheat) revealed the following ominous words:

    Bottled: Gluten Reduced Hibiscus Biere de Garde, Sudoku Porter, GF Pale Ale, Chili Verde Amber Ale, GF Pumpkin Ale, Threat Lemon Midnight – Experimental GF Lemon Pepper Ale, Vienna Steam

    OTOH last night I was drinking ‘Day of the Dead’ beer — alcoholic mole, with chocolate and chipotle — so I should shut up.

  225. El Manquecito said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:10

    OTOH last night I was drinking ‘Day of the Dead’ beer — alcoholic mole, with chocolate and chipotle —

    I feel your pain.

  226. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:13

    At least they aren’t using kamut. Oops, I mean KAMUT (r).

  227. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:14

    The latest entrant in the mid-coast Maine brewing game is offering a saison (invisible scare quotes) made with spelt from a local farm worked by horses. I know the farmer and like him and wish him the best but the beer is just not any good.

    WTF would anyone put spelt or quinoa in beer?

    In addition to the traditional barley, I’ve used: oats, rye, Belgian candi sugar, brown sugar, and molasses in beer. Not all at the same time, obviously. Oh, and raspberries.

    There are some really fucking terrible craft breweries out there right now. We’ve got two recent super-well-funded ones here in town that consistently make mediocre, and sometimes downright terrible, beer. And I can’t seem to get the capital together to start my own brewery. I’m not trying that hard though — I really like making interesting beer, running an IPA factory isn’t really my idea of a dream job.

  228. El Manquecito said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:18

    Kamut is just wheat and as such can be made into a perfectly acceptable summer beer, iffen there was anybody out there malting it. It makes excellent bread. Slaves built the pyramids on nothing but kamut pita with onions.

  229. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:18

    Bottled: Gluten Reduced Hibiscus Biere de Garde, Sudoku Porter, GF Pale Ale, Chili Verde Amber Ale, GF Pumpkin Ale, Threat Lemon Midnight – Experimental GF Lemon Pepper Ale, Vienna Steam

    Jeebus that’s a horrorshow. [shudder]

    A delightfully mild, light, and flavorful traditional Northern English Brown Ale is fermenting at my house right now. Two barleys (2-row and chocolate), one hop variety for all additions. Sublime.

  230. bughunter said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:20

    Bobo must be having a grand mal sad right about now. How—sniff—partisan of his centrist hero!

    Don’t be so sure. From the horse’s assmouth:

    If the 1994 or 2003 version of Mitt Romney were running for president, I may well have voted for him because, like so many other independents, I have found the past four years to be, in a word, disappointing.

    In 2008, Obama ran as a pragmatic problem-solver and consensus-builder. But as president, he devoted little time and effort to developing and sustaining a coalition of centrists, which doomed hope for any real progress on illegal guns, immigration, tax reform, job creation and deficit reduction. And rather than uniting the country around a message of shared sacrifice, he engaged in partisan attacks and has embraced a divisive populist agenda focused more on redistributing income than creating it.

    Damning with faint praise? Or throwing a bone to Bobo and the teapurity? Even when endorsing, it’s always projection.

    Obama bent over backwards extending olive branches to the GOP, who were too petty to do anything but pout, slander and obstruct. You know what, I’ve been disappointed in a lot that BO has done, or specifically not done, to correct what the Cheney administration did to this nation and punish those who did it. But I don’t have to lie and dissemble to criticize him honestly. And the country is still a whole hell of a lot better off than it would be if McCain had become president, and will also be when Rmoney’s not president.

    What a gigantic asshole. He could take his endorsement, wrap it around a 18″ rubber horse cock, shove it up his ass, and still find room for his head.

  231. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:21

    Yeah, but I meant KAMUT with the R in a circle.

    Also too, not all that fond of wheat beers, but that’s just a personal thing of mine.

  232. Whale Chowder said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:22

    A delightfully mild, light, and flavorful traditional Northern English Brown Ale is fermenting at my house right now.

    So…when should I come over?

  233. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:22

    But as president, he devoted little time and effort to developing and sustaining a coalition of centrists, which doomed hope for any real progress on illegal guns, immigration, tax reform, job creation and deficit reduction. And rather than uniting the country around a message of shared sacrifice, he engaged in partisan attacks and has embraced a divisive populist agenda focused more on redistributing income than creating it.

    Wow, I really like this completely fictitious version of the president. I wish he were real.

  234. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:25

    So…when should I come over?

    It’ll be ready to drink in two weeks, so I’d wait until then.

    Unless you want a really, really, really (really) hoppy imperial IPA which is what’s on tap right now. It was hop harvest time recently…

  235. Smut Clyde said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:26

    I meant KAMUT with the R in a circle.

    [Checks teh Gazoogle] Great googy-moogly, there is some heavy-handed marketing going on there.

    Also too, not all that fond of wheat beers
    All the more Aventinus weizenbock for Smut.

    One of the lads behind the bar at the local is very proud of his beetroot beer. I have been prompting him to put down a batch of Parsnip beer, so far without effect.

  236. El Manquecito said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:26

    There are some really fucking terrible craft breweries out there right now.

    Truer words were never spoken.
    Sorry to beerjack the thread, no worries, I’ll be back on my fone soon.

  237. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:27

    Also too, not all that fond of wheat beers, but that’s just a personal thing of mine.

    I forgot wheat in my list too — that was what the raspberries went with. Belgian wit bier, with raspberries. Mrs. Snob loved it.

  238. Smut Clyde said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:27

    And rather than uniting the country around a message of shared sacrifice, he [...] focused more on redistributing income…

    “Shared sacrifice” here is a term of art meaning “not taxing the people at the top”.

  239. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:29

    Sorry to beerjack the thread, no worries, I’ll be back on my fone soon.

    And I’ll be at the bar.

    I s’pose I should think about putting some beer content on my blahg instead of boring you all here with it. Whatta concept.

  240. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 0:49

    On to the E section of the unheard library. This is kooky.

  241. tensor said,

    November 2, 2012 at 1:09

    beerjacking the thread

  242. gocart mozart said,

    November 2, 2012 at 1:12

    Stupidest ad of the day

    http://wonkette.com/488434/exciting-new-ohio-ad-republicans-are-the-ones-who-love-you-black-dummies

  243. CRA said,

    November 2, 2012 at 1:33

    Oh I dunno Strony, there’s not much to it really.

  244. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 1:42

    Out, Demons, Out!

  245. Pupienus said,

    November 2, 2012 at 1:57

    note cursor:url does not work in Opera. o_o

  246. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 1:59

    Microsoft’s online help:

    Underline blank spaces

    You can underline blank spaces by pressing SHIFT+HYPHEN (-), but it is difficult to line up the underlines — if you are creating a fill-in form, for example. Also, if the AutoFormat option for changing underscore characters into border lines is turned on, pressing SHIFT+HYPHEN (-) three or more times in a row will result in a line that extends the width of the paragraph, which may not be what you want.

    A better way to underline blank spaces for a printed document is to use the TAB key and apply the underline formatting to the tab characters.

    This is awfully stupid to start with, but it’s harder inside a field. Had to cut and paste a tab in.

  247. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 2:23

    The cruelest way to a man’s earhole is through his twin.

  248. Smut Clyde said,

    November 2, 2012 at 2:33

    Strony www cz?stochowa sounds like a bit of a centrist to me.

  249. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 3:10

    Biting the centrist.

  250. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 3:13

    Spent all morning in the simulator getting my semi-annual taste of engine fires, 30-knot crosswind landings, low visibility approaches and other fun stuff.

    After that was all done I managed to drive as far as Louisville. I’ll drive the last leg to Columbus in the morning.

    It’s been a long day.

  251. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 3:37

    I assume buzzing the virtual farms, frying chickens in the coops is frowned upon.

  252. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 3:43

    I’ve been down to 50 feet at 390 airspeed in a B-52. It just wouldn’t be the same in the simulator.

  253. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 3:44

    Holy fuck.

  254. CRA said,

    November 2, 2012 at 4:16

    Fifty feet sounds like nothing at that size and speed.

  255. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 4:23

    Keep in mind the wingspan is 190 feet.

    This was just before the Gulf War kicked off. We were flying a training mission over Saudi Arabia and wanted to practice a “last ditch” maneuver in case we had to do it for real.

    If a missile was tracking you the idea was to get as low as possible and hopefully put a piece of dirt between you and the missile.

    We were well below the tops of the highest sand dunes.

    20/20 hindsight I probably wouldn’t have done it. I get very comfortable flying at 100 feet (still pretty damn low) but 50 feet was not comfortable by any margin.

  256. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 4:30

    Now if you want to see a really crazy-ass low level pass take a look at this French KC-135

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZT4BdI7STE

  257. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 2, 2012 at 4:44

    When I was a youth, at an airshow at Gardemon (sp?) airport in Norway, there was an airplane that passed so low over the runway, that it would have had to gain several feet of altitude to lower its landing gear. It was nowhere near the size of a B-52 or a KC-135.

  258. Smut Clyde said,

    November 2, 2012 at 5:01

    Lowering the landing gear.

  259. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 2, 2012 at 5:11

    Ghost stories, or goatse stories?

  260. Another Kiwi said,

    November 2, 2012 at 5:13

    Harvard planes wetting their wheels. South Africans being all laconic about risking their vintage planes and their lives.

  261. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 2, 2012 at 5:18

    Oh, Major, you’re becoming a celebrity at Roy’s place.

  262. Pryme said,

    November 2, 2012 at 5:25

    Stupidest ad of the day

    http://wonkette.com/488434/exciting-new-ohio-ad-republicans-are-the-ones-who-love-you-black-dummies

    Shorter Ad: We let you free and this is how you repay us?

  263. Spearhafoc, who waits dreaming in his house at R'lyeh said,

    November 2, 2012 at 5:34

    Spent all morning in the simulator

    Is this just an airplane simulator, or does it have other, holodeck-like, capabilities? I ask because there are some unattainable women* of whom I wouldn’t mind having replicas made of lasers and forcefields.

    *Which is to say, any woman.

  264. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    November 2, 2012 at 8:28

    *Which is to say, any woman.

    Chin up, old (young) chum, you just need to examine your approach. You’re a talented artist, how about forming a “drawing from life” group that meets in a local tavern? You’ll meet like-minded people that way, with good chances that a considerable amount of them will be women. You’re creative, get creative!

  265. Calming Influence said,

    November 2, 2012 at 9:39

    If you hold that image up to a mirror, you can see the words “I hate gays like me”, which is further evidence of a [url=http://www.inquisitr.com/6137/ashley-todd-political-victim-or-hoax/]vicious attack[/url] by a rabid Obama supporter.

  266. Smut Clyde said,

    November 2, 2012 at 10:28

    The lowermost watermelon seeds spell out ’666′. SCARY.

  267. Major Kong said,

    November 2, 2012 at 11:35

    Is this just an airplane simulator, or does it have other, holodeck-like, capabilities? I ask because there are some unattainable women* of whom I wouldn’t mind having replicas made of lasers and forcefields.

    If it had that capability I’d want to go more than twice a year. Which makes we wonder how anyone on Star Trek TNG ever got any work done.

  268. Helmut Monotreme said,

    November 2, 2012 at 14:52

    If it had that capability I’d want to go more than twice a year. Which makes we wonder how anyone on Star Trek TNG ever got any work done.

    Maybe they didn’t get any work done? Maybe they were all LARPers playing the 23rd or 24th century version of World of Warcraft? Each and every one of them was playing from the holodeck in their parent’s basement. In fact, I find that more plausible than the actual premise of the show.

  269. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 15:45

    I think there’s a space for a nice rom-com about Picard’s parents, trying to get their 50-year-old son out of the basement.

  270. Substance McGravitas said,

    November 2, 2012 at 16:28

    Would you prefer to be more or less drunk?

    How could you use nakedness to improve 3D printers?

    If you had to give up one or the other, would you prefer to give up hope or pornography?

    What would you do right now if you were forced to become an actor tonight?

    How would you make art out of hamburgers and obelisks?

    Would you rather visit Heaven or Washington? Why?

    Which is a better name for a pet devil ray, Alana Warbonnet or Rocky?

    Is it more important to you that your spouse be imaginary or creepy?

    Discuss the meaning of this proverb from Singapore: “You can’t worship silly putty”.

  271. CRA said,

    November 2, 2012 at 16:33

    Would you prefer to be more or less drunk?

    Yes.

  272. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 16:50

    If I became Actor overnight I’d slit my throat.

  273. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 16:52

    Thought I’d post this in case anyone was wondering: https://www.nyc.gov/html/fund/html/donate/donate.shtml

  274. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:23

    Pssst… Noo Thred.

  275. N__B said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:25

    I was there. I’M NUMBER TWO! I’M NUMBER TWO!

  276. Oregon Beer Snob said,

    November 2, 2012 at 17:47

    Pssst… Noo Thred.

    Although this thred does have the delightfully substantial questions to ponder…

  277. Smut Clyde said,

    November 2, 2012 at 21:55

    How could you use nakedness to improve 3D printers?

    How could you use 3D printers to improve nakedness?

  278. Another Kiwi said,

    November 4, 2012 at 3:31

    It is, of course, a merely personal opinion, but in all too many cases, and I’m looking at you Mr. AK, 3-D only adds to the scariness of nakedness.

  279. Dr Cherry said,

    November 11, 2012 at 19:37

    Republican Justin is trending!

    http://www.quickmeme.com/Republican-Justin/?upcoming

  280. Anonymous said,

    November 11, 2012 at 23:12

    z pfs k. teh?

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