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	<description>Poise! Poise!</description>
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		<title>By: piotr</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3770.html#comment-78573</link>
		<dc:creator>piotr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 07:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hal confirms what Ratardo wrote.   When the withdrawal was &quot;informally&quot; agreed upon, &quot;coalition&quot; (that is, USA) enjoyed two days of pointless slaughter before it stopped the attack, killing tens of thousands of unresisting soldiers, many of them using illegal incineration weapons.  Whether incineration weapons are illegal or not (it seems that they are), burning people alive is kind of mediaeval.

It is a bit academic to discuss if it was criminal.   Nobody will make a trial of Colin Powell or either of the Bushes.  But somehow people in Iraq are in vehement disagreement whether to hate us or to detest us.  A few professed no hard feeling and tried to con us (like Chalabi).  Nobody likes us.  Who knows, perhaps an honorable conduct  during wars could help...

A revolutionary idea: conquer moral high ground by moral conduct -- astonished adversaries would be stunned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hal confirms what Ratardo wrote.   When the withdrawal was &#8220;informally&#8221; agreed upon, &#8220;coalition&#8221; (that is, USA) enjoyed two days of pointless slaughter before it stopped the attack, killing tens of thousands of unresisting soldiers, many of them using illegal incineration weapons.  Whether incineration weapons are illegal or not (it seems that they are), burning people alive is kind of mediaeval.</p>
<p>It is a bit academic to discuss if it was criminal.   Nobody will make a trial of Colin Powell or either of the Bushes.  But somehow people in Iraq are in vehement disagreement whether to hate us or to detest us.  A few professed no hard feeling and tried to con us (like Chalabi).  Nobody likes us.  Who knows, perhaps an honorable conduct  during wars could help&#8230;</p>
<p>A revolutionary idea: conquer moral high ground by moral conduct &#8212; astonished adversaries would be stunned.</p>
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		<title>By: hal</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3770.html#comment-78423</link>
		<dc:creator>hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;when we mass-murdered the Iraqis in Gulf War I in the most gruesome way, the targets were soldiers retreating under a white flag and accepted truce, &lt;/i&gt;

Sadly, No! 

According to the BBC - 
Iraqi army starts retreat from Kuwait - February 26, 1991.
Air attacks on the Basra Road - night of February 26/7, 1991.
Unilateral ceasefire declared by coalition - February 27, 1991.
Coalition ceasefire comes into effect - 0400 GMT, February 28, 1991.
Final ceasefire agreement signed - April 6, 1991.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>when we mass-murdered the Iraqis in Gulf War I in the most gruesome way, the targets were soldiers retreating under a white flag and accepted truce, </i></p>
<p>Sadly, No! </p>
<p>According to the BBC &#8211;<br />
Iraqi army starts retreat from Kuwait &#8211; February 26, 1991.<br />
Air attacks on the Basra Road &#8211; night of February 26/7, 1991.<br />
Unilateral ceasefire declared by coalition &#8211; February 27, 1991.<br />
Coalition ceasefire comes into effect &#8211; 0400 GMT, February 28, 1991.<br />
Final ceasefire agreement signed &#8211; April 6, 1991.</p>
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		<title>By: digamma</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3770.html#comment-77989</link>
		<dc:creator>digamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, shit.</p>
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		<title>By: teh l4m3</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3770.html#comment-77988</link>
		<dc:creator>teh l4m3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh...  Where&#039;s tebbitt when you need him?  Gary?  Gary, you out there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh&#8230;  Where&#8217;s tebbitt when you need him?  Gary?  Gary, you out there?</p>
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		<title>By: Kansas Anarchist</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3770.html#comment-77978</link>
		<dc:creator>Kansas Anarchist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And let&#039;s not forget the thousands of Iraqi troops buied in their trenches, many of whom were waving flags of surrender, at the end of the First Gulf War. Colin Powell, the war criminal responsible, was never called to account for this, but instead became a national hero and eventual Secretary of State.

And some people wonder why I&#039;m an anarchist....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And let&#8217;s not forget the thousands of Iraqi troops buied in their trenches, many of whom were waving flags of surrender, at the end of the First Gulf War. Colin Powell, the war criminal responsible, was never called to account for this, but instead became a national hero and eventual Secretary of State.</p>
<p>And some people wonder why I&#8217;m an anarchist&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Flying Rodent</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3770.html#comment-77925</link>
		<dc:creator>Flying Rodent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I read Johnson and his ilk defending Israeli military policy to the hilt, I always like to shower off by having a read through the Ha&#039;aretz.  It&#039;s amazing how seldom the opinions of western far-right bloggers and actual Israelis match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I read Johnson and his ilk defending Israeli military policy to the hilt, I always like to shower off by having a read through the Ha&#8217;aretz.  It&#8217;s amazing how seldom the opinions of western far-right bloggers and actual Israelis match.</p>
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		<title>By: AshPlant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3770.html#comment-77923</link>
		<dc:creator>AshPlant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 10:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Israel is â€˜little brotherâ€™, too: itâ€™s an adolescent country that still has childish hissy-fits&quot;

Hell, America always struck me as an &#039;adolescent&#039; country. I used to think that if you upscaled the behaviour of a selfish sulky preteen that had yet to get used to sharing the world with other people to the size of half a continent, it would look like that. Israel is like a kid that suffered child abuse and grew up to become an abuser. 

i&#039;m British, but I don&#039;t have an appropriate analogy for my country, because I&#039;m not so hot on my own politics. Maybe a dead horse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Israel is â€˜little brotherâ€™, too: itâ€™s an adolescent country that still has childish hissy-fits&#8221;</p>
<p>Hell, America always struck me as an &#8216;adolescent&#8217; country. I used to think that if you upscaled the behaviour of a selfish sulky preteen that had yet to get used to sharing the world with other people to the size of half a continent, it would look like that. Israel is like a kid that suffered child abuse and grew up to become an abuser. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m British, but I don&#8217;t have an appropriate analogy for my country, because I&#8217;m not so hot on my own politics. Maybe a dead horse?</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 06:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus God, Mikey

I googled LZ Albany, about two hours ago. I&#039;d heard of Ia Drang before, but only in the most general of terms. Right now I&#039;m thinking that the lack of specifics was yet another example of how sheltered I&#039;ve been.

I know I can be brave when I need to be (like, for someone else&#039;s sake) but sitting here, just me and the computer, I&#039;m not. I&#039;m shaking; I&#039;m crying a little.

I&#039;m just going to go lie down now, and stare at the ceiling feeling inadequate.
Talk to ya tomorrow. Oh, and thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus God, Mikey</p>
<p>I googled LZ Albany, about two hours ago. I&#8217;d heard of Ia Drang before, but only in the most general of terms. Right now I&#8217;m thinking that the lack of specifics was yet another example of how sheltered I&#8217;ve been.</p>
<p>I know I can be brave when I need to be (like, for someone else&#8217;s sake) but sitting here, just me and the computer, I&#8217;m not. I&#8217;m shaking; I&#8217;m crying a little.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just going to go lie down now, and stare at the ceiling feeling inadequate.<br />
Talk to ya tomorrow. Oh, and thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3770.html#comment-77873</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 02:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War does not bring out the best in people, my friends.  You hear about large horrors.  Millions of small person-level horrors happen every day in war.  Just keep the pictures in your mind - never buy the pretty stories.  

Hiway of death.  Know what that always reminds me of?  In a kind of a soul-shivering mind-recoiling way, because to imagine what the horror of death visited upon you on an industrial scale and dying with the agony of helplesness.  The smell of terror.  And the sound of begging for another minute.  That would be the story of LZ Albany.  If you don&#039;t know the story, look it up.  

C&#039;mon, you guys. War is never gonna get gentle or clean.  Stand against war, and try to prevent your government from using it&#039;s terrifying capability from starting more wars.  I won&#039;t say it&#039;s the moral path, but I will ask how a thoughtful, moral person could be &quot;Pro war&quot;?

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War does not bring out the best in people, my friends.  You hear about large horrors.  Millions of small person-level horrors happen every day in war.  Just keep the pictures in your mind &#8211; never buy the pretty stories.  </p>
<p>Hiway of death.  Know what that always reminds me of?  In a kind of a soul-shivering mind-recoiling way, because to imagine what the horror of death visited upon you on an industrial scale and dying with the agony of helplesness.  The smell of terror.  And the sound of begging for another minute.  That would be the story of LZ Albany.  If you don&#8217;t know the story, look it up.  </p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, you guys. War is never gonna get gentle or clean.  Stand against war, and try to prevent your government from using it&#8217;s terrifying capability from starting more wars.  I won&#8217;t say it&#8217;s the moral path, but I will ask how a thoughtful, moral person could be &#8220;Pro war&#8221;?</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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		<title>By: pastor maker</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastor maker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 01:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shhh...

Israel good. Israel always good.Israel never bad.

You anti-semite!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shhh&#8230;</p>
<p>Israel good. Israel always good.Israel never bad.</p>
<p>You anti-semite!</p>
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		<title>By: ahem</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3770.html#comment-77867</link>
		<dc:creator>ahem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 01:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s what puts the &#039;porn&#039; into war porn. The LGF crowd really does want nukes dropped on the Middle East (with some magic Left Behind shield around Israel, natch) and not getting them will give them a stonking case of blue-balls.

Israel is &#039;little brother&#039;, too: it&#039;s an adolescent country that still has childish hissy-fits, aided by large amounts of US-made and US-paid munitions. Fratboy justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s what puts the &#8216;porn&#8217; into war porn. The LGF crowd really does want nukes dropped on the Middle East (with some magic Left Behind shield around Israel, natch) and not getting them will give them a stonking case of blue-balls.</p>
<p>Israel is &#8216;little brother&#8217;, too: it&#8217;s an adolescent country that still has childish hissy-fits, aided by large amounts of US-made and US-paid munitions. Fratboy justice.</p>
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