WWI was 8 million military dead, and almost insignificant civilian deaths.

WWII – some 20 million military dead, roughly the same in civilian deaths.

Since that time “collateral” deaths far exceed military deaths.

But the Conservative ability to be completely uncompassionate is nothing new. Someone in the Churchill circle (don’t recall the name) expressed delight that the Geneva conventions preserved “the right to bomb n-gg-rs”, and Churchill himself said that if it would save one Englishman, he would happily kill all in Afghanistan.

Can I just say that this is the first time I’ve been on television?

The Nazis Wehrmacht, for the most part, was destroyed on the Eastern Front by the Red Army. The U.S. was on the winning side in WWII, but the Soviets did most of the fighting by far and won the war.

THANK YOU! Fuck – it’s difficult as hell to drive this fact home when talking to someone who believes America won the Second World War.

The Russians – they fled ahead of the Wehrmacht, burning their homes; killing their livestock and torching the carcasses so invaders wouldn’t find anything to eat. They poisoned village wells so there’d be no water fit to drink.

Their acts made the Eastern Front – freezing in winter; wet ground above hard ground in spring; hot, damp, and bug infested in summer – even more hellacious. And don’t even get me started on the Soviet citizen-soldiers who booby-trapped their rubble; and, when they ran low on ammunition, attacked German soldiers with rocks, knives, and teeth.

All that time, most of these politicians’ parents – most women, and men too young or old to fight – were back in the US collecting scrap metal for the effort overseas and buying war bonds. That ‘home front’ sacrifice is hardly comparable to what the Russians did – the terrible nightmare they inflicted upon their enemies.

Maybe if there’d been some fight on American soil back then, these idiots now wouldn’t be so quick to vomit their war fantasies all over the Middle East.

You’ve missed this small bit of irony.

If memory serves, the first President elected after Truman/WW2 was Eisenhower, a Republican. JFK beat VP Nixon by the skin of his teeth. Sympathy for JFK gave us Johnson who served only one elected term, followed by Nixon.

If “returning vets were mostly Democrats”, their voting patterns sure as hell didn’t show it. What then is the basis for Barone’s “accusation”?

“None”, I hear you say? Who’da’thunk’it?

But that’s when I’m feeling hopeful. When I’m not, I think that all the thugs will just end up destroying us.

But surely, most people out there, Republicans, especially Jaycee types, don’t really believe we should slay every Muslim on the face of the earth? Hell, it isn’t even good business. I’m waiting hopefully for the truly ‘conservative’ wing of the Republican party, the party of Barry Goldwater, to stand up and put a stop to this Neocon nonsense. For practical reasons, if not for moral or ethical reasons. For fuck’s sake, they’re not all crazy.

I just can’t stop imagining Orwell’s sheep, being coached to scream “Islamofacists, islamofascists! Hate our freedom! Hate our freedom!” ad infinitum.

Way too many Americans have been brought up in a culture that preaches ignorance is bliss. And from that bliss will bring perpetual war.

Aside from the obvious, however, a main complaint with the testically-challenged like Barone is their unwillingness to just say the word “Genocide.” Because that is what they are preaching. Genocide to the Arabs. Because no matter how much they want there to be, there is no country of Terrorista to invade. They are preaching genocide, and Orwell’s sheep are eating it up and regurgitating it.

If they could just start screaming “Genocide!” maybe then enough will turn against the neo-con way, before it the word neo-con takes its rightful place alongside nazi and fascist in the world’s dictionary.

–WKW

I know. My husband and I laughed for about one hour after we came across a goth high schooler’s my space page, with all of these goth photos and drawings, and then her favorite tv show was “Two and a Half Men”. Seriously, I am laughing again just thinking about it.

That still makes more sense than the rightwingnutosphere.