Curiouser and Curiouser and OH MY GOD, DEMONS!
Tintin adds an update: Guess who reads Sadly, No? Krugman does, and he gives Cerberus a link.
I imagine this job looks easy from the outside.
And you’re right!
I just find some wingnut saying something stupid, boot up the automatic witty retort software and hit stop when it hits 3 million words or so (and you thought verbosity like this was organic).
So as a special treat, I’m going to show you how we craft the articles you so love. So join us dear reader on this relaxing mango safari.
Let’s start with something simple. Let’s see… Ah, yes, this:
Steven Hayward, Powerline*:
Keyenes was Right-About the Jews?
So Steve, as a paid flak for AEI, has often had the unenviable task of pitting wingnut fantasies against Paul Krugman’s tyrannical skills of actual facts and history. By the first paragraph, it’s obvious his Washington Generals’ performance to Krugman’s Globetrotters has begun to wear at his soul.
So Paul Krugman phoned in his periodic “Keynes Was Right” column today, arguing that the Obama Porkulus failed only because, like “true” Communism, it wasn’t tried vigorously or faithfully enough.
Yeah, the single watered down version of the economic model that ended the Great Depression totally discredits it and demonstrates why we need to continue trying the model that started the Great Depression and has had zero success (despite being constantly tried).
What officer? Projection? I don’t see any projection here. That must also be something liberals do.
I wonder if Krugman also credits Keynes’s views on Jews, which British blogger Damian Thompson of The Telegraph brings to our attention.
This is Stevie whimpering in the corner and calling time out. He doesn’t even have bullshit anymore to defend his economic worldview. And so he’s taken a page from the creationists and decided to just start throwing shit on the name to see if it sticks to the theory.
Cause hey, if Darwin was a racist then that totally would mean evolution was false, right?
Anti-Semitism used to be a property of the Right, yet it’s worth pointing out that today many of the intellectual heroes of the right are Jews, such as Milton Friedman, Leo Strauss, Irving Kristol, etc., or that anti-Semitism has become almost wholly the province of the Left today.
Why yes, Stevie just used an argument that an early 20th century liberal economic philosopher being anti-semitic is totally proof that modern liberals are anti-semitic. Apparently wingnuts are Time Lords, because that’s the only way that view of time makes sense.
Okay, so we’ve got an accusation of anti-semitism of a really old historical figure as if that mattered for either modern views of jews by liberals or the validity of his economic theories**. Well, let’s see that quote.
[Jews] have in them deep-rooted instincts that are antagonistic and therefore repulsive to the European, and their presence among us is a living example of the insurmountable difficulties that exist in merging race characteristics, in making cats love dogs …
It is not agreeable to see civilization so under the ugly thumbs of its impure Jews who have all the money and the power and brains.
Could be hate, could be snark, could just be that he’s from the early part of the 20th century where anti-semitism was so rampant that even after the Holocaust and the big life lesson that anti-semitism was wrong, none of the big world powers wanted to accept the refugees for fear that they would “Jew up” their countries.
I know, I’ll just follow the link and find the original source of this rapidly propogating smear campaign. That should be easy, right?
Come along readers, road trip!
Damian Thompson, The Daily Outmoded Communication Technology:
John Maynard Keynes on ‘repulsive’, ‘impure’, ‘ugly’ Jews
Did you know that John Maynard Keynes was a venomous anti-Semite who could have given Richard Wagner a run for his money? Me neither.
Wow, that’s bad! So what new quotes of perfidity does he have? Perhaps a stirring deconstruction of bigoted attitudes on par with the legendary breakdown of Gingrich’s defense of Belgium in the Congo?
It’s the same damn quote.
I’m not kidding, it’s just the widely circulating quote.
Well, at least there’s this mango to keep us company in the meantime.
If Keynes was an intellectual hero of the Right, rather than the Left, do you think those quotes would be so little known?
It is nice that sailing in the seas of Outer Wingnuttia, you can guide your ship by the glaring projection of each shore.
Yes, the quote that’s been moving through the wingnut echo chamber at Mach 12 and will probably appear on Fox News within the week is “little known”. I’m not even going to get into the “right wing people are always scrutinized personally and left wing people never are” bit because I fear my head would explode.
Okay, these shores are barren, who’d he link to? (Hmm, we’re getting low on supplies, hopefully that won’t be a problem)
Here are a couple of extracts from his writings, courtesy of Chris Dillow via Clive Davis’s Spectator blog:
Onward Pagan Soldiers!
Chris Dillow, Stumbling and Mumbling***:
The ship’s starting to smoke a little, half the crew has starved to death and we’ve been forced to consume their remains. The shore is a sickly pink color and Typepad shaped. The navigation instruments are shot. We’re in the boonies of the wingnutosphere now. May Bob have mercy on our Poles****.
Well, at least its worth it, we’re here at the original source and hopefully some context and…
A quick look further shocked me. Nina Paulovicova quotes him thus (pdf):
No. Okay, it’s fine, it’s fine. Well, let’s at least sample the local mangos before we depart once again. Cause that’ll happen and we’re not at all drifting in the sea of madness that is the endless circlejerk of wingnut “sources”. Ha… ha haha. Everything’s fine. Nothing to see here.
Even Keynes’ admirers (such as Skidelsky and Moggridge) agree that Keynes was anti-semitic – though in his favour it doesn’t seem to have stopped him supporting Jewish refugees or even Zionism.
My word, that sure is anti-semitic. Supporting Jewish refugees and Zionism. Seeing as how he died soon after World War II, so this would have been at the time like supporting full marriage rights for poly couplings. But don’t let me stop you from disproving the entire chain of fail you’ve unleashed on the world in your own damn post.
And of course, his view of Jews is irrelevant in assessing the relevance of Keynesian economics today; we should avoid the “poisoning the well“ fallacy.
But even so, doesn’t this attitude show that some people should be more careful who they choose as intellectual heroes?
It might just be the fact that I’m stranded at sea and half mad on rotted mangos, but I like this guy. Sure, he’s a right-wing fucknozzle, but he seems half-aware of the shit he’s doing and how off-topic it is.
Who stole my shoes?
But, but, yeah, voices hee hee hee, that would matter if liberals were authoritarian idiots who generated cults of personality around figures rather than acknowledging where their views on one subject align with reality. You know, if they were conservatives.
* It’s surely not good enough to defend Keynes by claiming (rightly) that anti-semitism was common at the time, given that Keynes spent so much of his life rejecting what he regarded as conventional attitudes and beliefs.
Yeah, stupid liberals, lissen to this guy, he makes sense! Why would we want to look at historical context or note that anti-semitism was wide-spread at the time of the writing (what time is it anyways?) and wasn’t really socially addressed until the 1960s. Cause that might cause people to realize that liberals not being perfect in history is the reason a lot of liberals constantly try and improve themselves so they don’t end up believing something that in 50 years will make them look like a real dick. And that would ruin the smear campaign…
Wait, where am I? Why am I covered in mango guts and shit? Sorry about that folks. Let’s just sail on to what is hopefully the primary source to this insanity.
Nina Paulovicova, University of Alberta, I Don’t Fucking Know Anymore:
The Immoral Moral Scientist. John Maynard Keynes.
The ship is gone. Eaten by a polar bear in the frozen Canadian wildnerness. The crew is gone, but I hear the voices of the readers pushing me on, deeper into the snow-peaked maple mountains of my stereotypical understanding of Canadian culture (Eh?).
Is this the original source? Is there an original source? I don’t know. All there is is the journey.
Naturally, one is intrigued by these hints of an
“inhuman” or “immoral” side of Keynes when confronted by
Braithwaite’s contradictory label of Keynes as “moral scientist” or
somewhat traditional classificatory labels such as “scientific political
economist” (Johnson and Johnson), a “great do-gooder” (James
Mead) or “more than economist,” which is Lydia Keynes` rather
simple but poignant assessment of her husband. It is no doubt that
one dimension of Keynes’ immorality refers to his early sexual
experience – homosexuality.
I’ve apparently stumbled into that most horrifying creatures. A wingnut who thinks they can hold their own academically. The long rambling writing thread approximates sense only haltingly. There is the argument that Keynes is anti-semitic, simply plopped down repeatedly before moving on to rant at how biographies don’t fixate enough on her random assertion.
It’s been 20 pages on these cold, cold Steppes and there is no approximation of argument to be seen. Biographers are pigs for not sharing her random obsession. My feet are mushrooms, I will fly into the sun. I fear my brain might be corroding by the second. I pray you all to tell my automatic post writing software that I love it.
When he was seventeen years old, J.M. Keynes wrote a
provocative essay, “The Differences between East and West: Will
They Ever Disappear?” Through the examples of the Chinese and the
Jews, the young Keynes tried to discover whether the European and
Oriental branches of human race would continue to live side by side
or whether eventually one would succeed in absorbing the other.
Jews were, in his teen view, the accursed race…”they have in them
deep-rooted instincts that are antagonistic and therefore repulsive to
the European, and their presence among us is a living example of the
insurmountable difficulties that exist in merging race characteristics,
in making cats love dogs”
Is that…? The quote at last? Is there any context to it or…? Of course not, why would there be? It’s only a scholarly research paper purporting to be about the racial attitudes of a historical figure, why bother deconstructing that shit when you can just reassert over and over again…
We’re trying to discredit Keynesian economics, Keynes, and liberals in general, with something Keynes wrote as a fucking kid? Yeah, that’s going to have a clear picture of shit. I didn’t at all carry social baggage at 17, including worldviews I was embarrassed about a scant few years later. Why, no one did.
And of course, this also means that this was written before the turn of the century. You know, when Britain owned the globe like the ultimate slum lord, was smarting over the Boxer Rebellion and as a society we were still getting over the idea that some white people belonged to a different sect of Christianity (ha ha, racism against Irishmen and Italians), much less unpacking the idea that some people might belong to a different religion entirely.
But you know, why would that matter in how an upper class Brit might phrase things? It’d only be the dominant social views and phrasings of the time? And…
SEVENTEEN? Really, wingnuts? Really?!?
The following is an example of one of Keynes` frequently
cited utterances about which historians are particularly uneasy as
they indicate anti-Semitism as a part of Keynes’ worldview. Upon
meeting Einstein, Keynes reflected his impression as follows:
Yes, please, 20 pages late, give us something, anything!
He is a naughty Jew boy covered with ink –that kind of
Jew – the kind which has its head above water, the
sweet, tender imps who have not sublimated immortality
into compound interest. He was the nicest, and the only
talented person I saw in all Berlin, except perhaps old Fuerstenberg, the banker Lydia liked so much, and Kurt
Singer, two foot by five, the mystical economist from
Hamburg. And he was a Jew; and so was Fuerstenberg
and so was Singer. And my dear Melchior is Jew too.
Yet if I lived there, I felt I might turn anti-Semite.
Okay, I bite. What is the Jewish version of Gay Jungle Fever******?
So Keynes is a gay drama queen. The pages continue on like that, revealing his close advocacy of Jewish interests unlike any of his non-Jewish peers. The hatred, like Wagner’s overwhelms me with its proofs. I sought a simple question, what’s the source, and found only madness in this Arctic snow.
At least that’s what the invisible monkey keeps telling me. No, Beppo, it’s not time to kill them all. There’s one source left. The original teenybopper essay.
John Maynard Keynes, Random Essay written as Teenager:
The differences between East and West: will they ever disappear?
Is it over? Have I finally arrived?
I just wanted to write funny articles for the internet, why is this happening to me? No Beppo, it’s fine. We’re here. The mangos are over. I can read the original quotes in context and see for myself whether this off-topic smear campaign about whether or not a well-meaning liberal showed his privilege and the toxicity of his culture has any validity.
Cause…that would somehow matter. Like the wingnuts even really care about bigotry as anything other than to smear the “suspected heroes” of the people who point out their bigotries. As if it had anything to do with economic policy or modern liberal attitudes towards Jews. As if they could even get that right by actually citing something actually damning. Cause that would make the fish green.
But I need to see. Things have been so fractally wrong on every level, I’ve lost so much, I must know if there is a single thing they managed to get right or if every single thing they did was wrong on every single level possible.
I need to know. Beppo is making me need to know. Beppo says I can’t go home and cuddle my Post-Writing Software until I know. Why won’t you release me Beppo? No, don’t put me in the box. I’ll be good. It’s for the readers, nice mango cruise, no sweat, ha ha! It will all be worth it soon.
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Hello, dear sirs and madams of the internet community, Sadly, No! I regret to inform you that Cerberus has been placed under heavy sedation following a recent…episode. It is unclear when she’ll be fit to post again upon the site
I like pie!
Dear lord, it’s worse, than I thought! When will these mango retrievers learn?
*Doesn’t that sound like the title of a gay skin mag? I can’t be the only one who sees that.
**To be fair, I’m not fully versed in Keynes’s writings, so maybe they are based in grinding up Jews and sacrificing them to a dark God in order to stimulate the economy. If so, I apologize profusely to Mr. Hayward.
***Really?!? REALLY? The uncreativity of wingnuts is beginning to hurt my brain.
****Yes. The reference is so much better with a veil on it.
*****There is nothing. I repeat nothing more painful to slog through than a wingnut trying to write a scholarly paper. It is filled to the brim with rambling half-points and uncited assertions and constantly raises up things without showing a single demonstration of what she’s trying to prove. If you feel like torturing yourself, I recommend you read the full article. I did and now I can’t even remember my own name.
******The Liberal media? Boom!