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R.S. McCain on an average Friday night, wondering why the “sluts” won’t fuck him.

R.S. McCain, The White Supremacist McCain:
A. Because She’s a Slut

I’m going to level with you all, the mangos I’m bringing back aren’t simply just rotten, they are vile disease-ridden pestilence factories, carefully toiled over by seven archdemons to make sure they contain the absolute epitome of the worst of humanity. R.S. McCain isn’t simply a terrible person, he is a man trying to be the worst person in the world.

If you value your good day, I’d urge you to stop reading and just skip to the comments section.

There is no shame in it and I’ll provide a shorter for you. After that, it’s all downhill from there.

Shorter R.S. McCain
A. Because She’s a Slut

    • I am a terrible human being who has figured I’ve gone about as far into racism as I can, so I’d like to break into sexism to diversify my hate portfolio.

  • ‘Shorter’ concept created by Daniel Davies and perfected by Elton Beard. Providing a shorter as a trigger warning concept is created by Cerberus. We are aware of all Internet traditions.™


    Ok, still reading? Well, I warned you. Let’s do this.

    Q. Why does a woman get the “Brazilian wax”?

    Full pubic hair removal, according to Herbenick’s studies, is most common among sexually active women . . . who are not in monogamous relationships.

    Like pierced bellybuttons and tattoos, this is a trend popular with hussies, harlots, trollops, tramps, vamps, floozies and whores.

    How does one expend the thesaurus for the word slut and fail to hit a single term that has been used in the last 50 years? Are they also dolled-up tommies committing scandalous peccadilloes with other rapscallions, daddy-o?

    This question, a citing of an article reacting to shaved pubic hair in traditional wingnut fashion, at the exact time it is starting to be fazed out. Is answered with his charming post title. As you’ll see later, he also reacts to it in the other traditional wingnut fashion, that is interpreting stupid things women do to try and please the patriarchy (like increasing itching and lowering protection of the genitals in order to “please” a man based on his expectations from porn (which are only in place because it makes the vulva look bigger and thus more aroused when the parties dry-hump each other)) as if they were feminist inventions to offend his sensibilities.

    Cause if you are going to be scum, why not be an ignorant hack as well?

    That article was linked by Professor Glenn Reynolds, who can’t be judgmental like that, because it would probably be a civil rights violation or something. He’d have the entire UT Womyn’s Studies Department picketing his office if he dared express disapprobation of ”sexually active women . . . who are not in monogamous relationships.”

    Some sentences try and convey important information or potential arguments. Others simply exist to demonstrate that the writer in question deserves never to have sex with anything other than his right-hand and even then the police should be checking for roofies. This is the latter.

    It’s not just wrong, it’s fractally wrong. Each new section contains more wrong that feeds on other wrongs to just play a painfully loud whistle that this man is a contemptible waste of flesh.

    And they don’t call ‘em “Volunteers” for nothing. IYKWIMAITYD.

    HAHA HAHA HAHA! You are a waste of humanity who should be skullfucked to death immediately by the biggest black man on the planet.

    The fine Southeastern Conference tradition of trash-talking one’s football opponents — 37-6, Roll Tide! — certainly extends to the opponent’s womenfolk. For example, everybody in Tuscaloosa knows why Auburn installed artificial turf at Jordan-Hare Stadium: To prevent the homecoming queen from grazing.

    Remember this every time a Southern Gentleman tries to allude to the “Southern tradition of chivalry” and argue that Southern men are nicer than Northern men because they open doors and say “ullo ma’am”.

    No, not the obvious and insulting sexism. I mean the complete fail of comedy.

    See, you need artificial grass. Because your homecoming queen, see because she’s the prettiest person at your school, would try to graze on it. See, because she’s a cow. See, it’s funny because she’s fat. Do you get the joke yet? DO I NEED TO SPELL IT OUT?

    Fuck, if Sadly, No! paid that much for that quality of jokes, all of my posts would be nothing but me farting loudly and saying “but see, it’s funny because you can’t actually smell it or hear it over the internet.”

    By similar token, while I don’t want to say that all Tennessee coeds are wantonly promiscuous, there are certain words you can’t spell without “UT,” among them “slut” and “put out.”

    R.S. McCain, you may continue your abject hatred of women (everyone knows they aren’t people anyways) in peace, but I beg you to stop murdering comedy in the pursuit. Comedy is an innocent, man. It had nothing to do with this. Just let it walk away and it can just be between you and me. Quick, Comedy, kick him in the nads.

    Do Tennessee fans take umbrage at such ribald putdowns? Of course they do — and that’s exactly my point. If promiscuity did not inspire an instinctive moral horror, then there would be no offense in saying that UT coeds put out like Pez dispensers.

    Holy fuckballs, is he still on about UT? Just because Professor Dipshit teaches there (thus permanently devaluing their education standards) and R.S. McCain worked himself into a frothy mix about how calling all young women sluts might arise a complaint by people who aren’t mouth-breathing competitors for the World’s Worst Person award?

    And yeah, the more you say X women are sluts who put out indiscriminately because you decided to quote-mine some other wingnut’s pulled-out-of-his ass speculations on what type of women shave their pubes (hint, it’s women who are dating men who have such a thin grasp on reality that they think how women look in porn is how they are “supposed” to look and thus hair is “a sign of dirtiness”. These are not feminist enlightened men), the more it just shows you to be a man complaining that X young women you assume are sluts aren’t sleeping with you.

    And going back to the original whine, what would be the problem with either “sexually active” or “in a non-monogamous relationship”? Oh right, the assumption that anything other than repressed Christian woman giving free handjobs in the Church bathroom is a dirty slut who can’t resist spreading her legs for anyone.

    Ah, virgin/whore complex, making men who believe in it look like total prats for most of Western Christian history.

    Contrary to feminist dogma, the stigma attached to “sexually active women . . . who are not in monogamous relationships” isn’t a learned response inculcated by The Patriarchy, but rather a reflection of our innate sense that such behavior is contrary to the social good.

    I have seen a good number of things regarding men and women labeled “natural”. From love of shoes to differences in math aptitude to the ability to read. I’ll admit that “slut-shaming” is a relatively new one on me. By that I mean, the last time I encountered it I was reading an Elizabethean play.

    Who will ever return these poor time-traveling wingnuts to their proper time instead of trapping them in this confusing modern society they are helpless to adapt to?

    Our basic sense of right and wrong can be ignored or suppressed — evil can and is “normalized” by our popular culture — but the moral sense can never be entirely eradicated. However much society tries to pretend that Good and Evil are not valid categories, our moral sense will find expression in some way.

    ABSOLUTE MORALITY says girls are dirty skank poo-poo heads with cooties. Nyah!

    Also, R.S. McCain. Let me just see if I got you correctly? When made aware of the existence of women’s vaginas, you immediately launched into an incoherent tirade about how all young women are sluts, and how refusing to believe that women are slutty vile creatures is a sign of pure evil or part of the secret campaign against men by feminist conspiracies?

    And you expect us to believe you are straight because…?

    The feminist campaign against “slut-shaming” is thus doomed to failure, because being a slut will always be a shameful thing, no matter how strenuously the political correctoids try to prevent us from saying so.

    It is amazing how Slut Walk has managed to take the drooling incoherent cretins of the world and reduce them to even more drooling incoherence. It’s kinda like the gay marriage arguments. Sure they rode a good long while on “it’s bad”, but when asked to demonstrate in court how that was so, all they had left was sputtering outrage.

    If I had known that the question “Why?” was the antidote to wingnuts, I’d have invested in air-dropping the word over the wingnut death camps that Obama is rounding them up into…oh shoot, wasn’t supposed to reveal that.

    And if any feminist is offended by my saying so — good. You deserve to offended and often, and by someone who knows how.

    Yes, be proud of your ability to…offend people by being an asshole. I wasn’t aware being an asshole was a particularly difficult trick, especially when you’re talking about openly attacking the humanity of a segment of people. If that was my job, I could fart that out in a lunch break and go back to my Feminist Conspiracy meetings a fuck ton earlier.

    The sad thing is that you don’t know how. I mean, you manage it, because you are inherently scum, but as far as effort, this isn’t even good trolling. It’s rambly and reveals way more about your personal issues than anything else. I mean, come on, R.S. McCain, if you’re going to be the Worst Person in the World, you need to up your game, man!

    And also thanks for admitting that you and your fellow wingnuts are only in it to “offend feminists” and other liberals. Because everyone knows in times of high unemployment and overly large numbers of people dying from preventable causes, that pissing off a group of people just trying to fix shit is the most important issue of all.

    UPDATE: Roxeanne De Luca asks the key question:

    Young women of the world: have you all gone mental?

    Yes, the key question on all of our lips was whether young women have gone mental.

    Indeed. The insecurities on display — “Will the guy who picks me up in a bar be disgusted if I my nether regions are not ‘well-groomed’?” — are a perfect illustration of how sexual “liberation” has resulted in a new slavery: Women now groan under the yoke of sexual expectations created by pornographers.

    Cause everyone knows pornography didn’t exist before 1969 and the pornography industry is directly connected to the philosophy of the “sexual revolution” and leftist philosophy in general.

    You can tell by how the blue states and areas consume the most porn and have the most strip clubs.

    Oh right, Sadly, no!

     

    Comments: 222

     
     
     

    Oh my. I hope you were wearing a full hazmat suit when you picked those mangoes Cerb.

     
    Quaker in a Basement
     

    And if any feminist is offended by my saying so — good. You deserve to offended and often, and by someone who knows how.

    Channeling Rhett Butler?!? C’mon, dude. You’re taking the whole neoconfederate thing way too seriously.

     
     

    How did I end up at Man Boobz?

     
     

    Soooooooo, can men be sluts? McCain seems to leave men almost entirely out of his little wank. WEIRD.

     
     

    Soooooooo, can men be sluts?

    OUCH! Yes. OUCH!

     
     

    You deserve to offended and often, and by someone who doesn’t know s how to write a sentence.

     
     

    or do html…wev…

     
     

    Silly vacuumslayer, women are sluts because they are receiving sex and are thus degraded by it, whereas men are studs because they are giving sex and thus made manlier by it.

    I mean, duh.

    It’s like you believe 1950s gender norms were changed somewhere in between then and now and now people are expected to at least pretend women are people or something.

    I mean, gawd!

     
     

    What gives fucknut there the idea that ripping all your pubes out is a feminist thing? I mean, don’t conservatives and other dim-witted morons spend most of their time hating on feminists by complaining about their hairy legs and armpits? Yet they think the same women who are too “slovenly” to shave their legs and pits are having all the hair ripped out of their genital area?

     
     

    If you value your good day, I’d urge you to stop reading and just skip to the comments section.

    This video may restore some goodwill: Gay couple told they’re going to be grandparents.

    They’re so happy. It’s sweet.

     
     

    What gives fucknut there the idea that ripping all your pubes out is a feminist thing? I mean, don’t conservatives and other dim-witted morons spend most of their time hating on feminists by complaining about their hairy legs and armpits? Yet they think the same women who are too “slovenly” to shave their legs and pits are having all the hair ripped out of their genital area?

    actual comment:

    I like a big old thick bush myself. As long as it’s not on the armpits, that is. Now that’s some nasty shit. Ditto women who don’t shave their legs.

    while over there i also found out that *stace* was *fast* while he was in college…bleeeeeeeech! i can just hear him paraphrasing his ‘by someone who knows how’ line…oh, god help me…

     
     

    What gives fucknut there the idea that ripping all your pubes out is a feminist thing?

    I’m sure they go out of their way to find porn that is strictly hairy crotches. I’m sure they hate the whole shaved area thing…

    I don’t get it. Women do very nice things like shave that area, and this fucking hump is all bent out of shape about it. Next complaint: Women who get their hair colored and nails done. WHORES!

     
     

    That couple is fucking adorable. Awesome vid.

     
     

    OK, call me old-fashioned, but I don’t get the whole shaved down there thing. Maybe it’s my age, but I grew up looking at Playboy and Penthouse in the 1970s, and women had hair down there dang it.

     
     

    Women who get their hair colored and nails done. WHORES!

    believe it or not, this was actually covered in the comments over there…something along the lines of the ‘husband’ is supposed to be fed proper foods and adore his wife…that means his wife shouldn’t be made to feel she has to pluck her eyebrows, wear makeup, etc. for his benefit…oh, here it is:

    Masculinity requires eating a proper, omnivorous diet, and genuinely adoring your wife. The former is necessary to prevent “ball shrivel.” The latter is “why.”

    And the ability to adore shouldn’t require artificial aids (makeup, surgery, brazilian wax, shaped eyebrows, and on and on it goes until the original person is nearly erased).

     
     

    Major Kong, it’s just the pornification of the culture.

     
     

    I wonder what “Blog Sidekick Smitty” thinks of Robert Stacy McCain’s entry?

     
     

    OK, call me old-fashioned, but I don’t get the whole shaved down there thing. Maybe it’s my age, but I grew up looking at Playboy and Penthouse in the 1970s, and women had hair down there dang it.

    agreed…it really creeps me out…do. not. like. also, i would think the maintenance would be a nightmare…cripes, sometimes just shaving the bottom half of my legs is more effort than i want to put into it…also too…itchy!!!

     
     

    I wonder what “Blog Sidekick Smitty” thinks of Robert Stacy McCain’s entry?

    i’m sure he’s read it but is too busy fapping to a picture of his mom to respond…

     
     

    also too and such, one commentor did point out that it’s hard to take *stace* seriously when his blog ads are full of scantily clad young ladies with their boobs hanging out…

     
     

    bbkf – not to mention the fact that you can’t really do a Brazilian wax on yourself. THAT is the creepiest thing about it, to me…the idea that you’re going to some stranger, or at least some person with whom you’re not having sex, and having them contort you into various positions so they can get to all the areas and smear hot wax all over them before ripping the hair out by the roots.

    And paying to have it done.

     
     

    They get us coming and going. We don’t maintain ourselves we’re ugly hags; we indulge in a bit of artifice and we’re whores. What this really comes down to is the wish that women simply didn’t exist.

     
     

    Therefore Blog Sidekick Smitty.

     
     

    Jennifer said,

    December 20, 2011 at 1:30

    ugh…i know…i can’t even imagine…one of the other commentors who apparently is “in the know” says that in brazil, all the girls know how to do this and do it at home…gah…i don’t even want to know how they came by that info…

    vacuumslayertse said,

    December 20, 2011 at 1:33

    yeah, we’re pretty much fucked if we do and fucked if we don’t…and then get to have ballcheez like *stace* tell us we’re shameful and if we want sex with anyone but him we’re dirty…

     
     

    I wonder what “Blog Sidekick Smitty” thinks of Robert Stacy McCain’s entry?

    i think i see what you did there…

     
     

    Im lost who is sidekick Smitty?

     
     

    If promiscuity did not inspire an instinctive moral horror, then there would be no offense in saying that UT coeds put out like Pez dispensers.

    Contrary to feminist dogma, the stigma attached to “sexually active women . . . who are not in monogamous relationships” isn’t a learned response inculcated by The Patriarchy, but rather a reflection of our innate sense that such behavior is contrary to the social good.

    It is exactly a learned response, and he knows it, hence the the preemptive hand-waving. If it were innate or instinctual, it wouldn’t be vastly different in different ages, regions, or very near relatives like the bonobo. Any horror is precisely because of puritanical little shits like McCain trying to use society to socially enforce bullshit conditional learned morality.

    And my understanding, anecdotally from friends so take with suitably sized grain of salt BUT NOT YOU AB HUGH, is that full hair removal is more a lesbian thing, and they’re not doing it because they’re worried about what guys think about their grooming but because they and their girlfriends like it.

     
     

    Im lost who is sidekick Smitty?

    actually, does sidekick smitty do anything over there? or is his sole purpose to even out the ugly at the top of *stace*’s blog?

     
     

    Erm, I’m not Newt.

     
     

    suitably sized grain of salt BUT NOT YOU AB HUGH,

    can dog make a grain of salt so large that not even ab hugh could consume it?

     
     

    It is exactly a learned response, and he knows it, hence the the preemptive hand-waving. If it were innate or instinctual, it wouldn’t be vastly different in different ages, regions, or very near relatives like the bonobo. Any horror is precisely because of puritanical little shits like McCain trying to use society to socially enforce bullshit conditional learned morality.

    well, of course it is and he does…but he has to keep up his sanctimonious patriachal bullshit so that any ‘chicks’ in his sphere o’consciousness feel just a little bit beneath him…how else would he and his buds get any?

     
     

    or even have women talk to them beyond, ‘here’s your change…please pull up to the next window’?

     
     

    Masculinity requires eating a proper, omnivorous diet, and genuinely adoring your wife. The former is necessary to prevent “ball shrivel.” The latter is “why.”

    He thinks vegetarians have shriveled balls compared to omnivores? Because I have some experience with both omni and veggie balls and not so much. Maybe he needs to open his eyes or turn the lights on next time he’s checking some out.

     
     

    That item from ‘RSM’ fairly reeked of Play-Doh and bacon.

     
     

    Wingnuts are terrified by women who own their sexuality. Just look at when Cain finally self-destructed, it was when a woman said she had a consensual affair with him, but the sexual harassment incidents? Thats just boys being boys.

    I just thank god that their xenophobia at least matches their misogyny; if they ever realized that the Taliban were fellow travelers in the hate department, then things would go sideways real quick

     
     

    That item from ‘RSM’ fairly reeked of Play-Doh and bacon.

    The classics never get shopworn.
    .

     
     

    Plus, I have to echo what Jennifer said: what the fuck does shaved pubes have to do with feminism. Im pretty certain most feminists are pro-pube.

     
     

    The update comment is priceless: apparently feminists are now to blame for making women conform to bullshit beauty standards. Guh?

     
     

    Im pretty certain most feminists are pro-pube.

    I kinda hope most feminists do what they want.

    Go Cunt Go!

     
     

    Substance McGravitas said,
    December 20, 2011 at 2:11

    I kinda hope most feminists do what they want.

    Dat’s what I meant.

     
     

    The insecurities on display — “Will the guy who picks me up in a bar be disgusted if I my nether regions are not ‘well-groomed’?” — are a perfect illustration of how sexual “liberation” has resulted in a new slavery: Women now groan under the yoke of sexual expectations created by pornographers.

    I long for that golden age when women had no expectations to live up to.

     
     

    I long for that golden age when women had no expectations to live up to.

    one ballcheez over there actually said that women shouldn’t have to live up to false expectations…but also, too…they shouldn’t be porkers like most american women…

    god, my head hurts…

    Women now groan under the yoke of sexual expectations created by pornographers.

    by all means, yes…it’s the pornographer’s fault!!! no men watch that icky stuff!!!

     
     

    I long for that golden age when women had no expectations to live up to.

    We’ll never have another now that guys have learned how to read our filthy little minds.

     
     

    Count me as another who can’t understand the “take me back to prepubescence” look of waxed pubes. Especially on men.

     
     

    Wow. It’s not every day that I can disagree with both the original wankstain and the S,N! fisker…

    “Why do women get a Brazillian wax?”
    Because it requires a lot less maintanence than shaving. Wax once, and you’re good for a few months. Shaving is a lot more hassle because you have to shave a lot more often, and you get risks like nicks, cuts, and ingrown hairs. Waxing, while more costly and quite the tactile experience, lets you have the smooth skin without as much maintanence.

    “OK… but why shave? It’s about porn, isn’t it? Or about making women look like little girls?”
    No, and here’s where I get disappointed in the crowd over here. Shaving one’s junk, or waxing it, or using other means to remove all the hair, isn’t about porn, (ask Bobbi Starr or Stoya or Belladonna: big name porn stars who do quite well with a full furry presentation as part of their normal appearance) and it isn’t about infantalizing adult women. (because post-puberty lady bits look quite different in appearance than pre-pubescent lady bits; ask an OB-GYN)

    Let me repeat that just in case anyone missed it: there’s still bush in porn, and not just in fetish-specialty categories.

    You want to know why people shave/wax/etc? Lick your finger, and then stroke your nose. (Kinky, I know, but play along for just a bit longer) Pay attention to the degree of sensation you’re aware of: pressure, temperature, moisture, etc. Now lick your finger, and stroke your eyebrow. Notice how much less sensation you’re aware of? (You can also do this with your head, if you’re not bald, or your forearms if you’re hirsute enough) That’s why anyone shaves/plucks/waxes/lazers off genital hair: because it gives greatly increased sensitivity and sensation!

    Any douche-bag who says “Oh, you’re not fully defoliated in a region visable only to doctors and intimate partners? Well, then I’m no longer attracted” deserves the crotch-kick they have coming. I don’t know anyone who shaves or waxes because of how it looks, either to them or to their partner. They do it because of how it feels.

     
     

    Soooooooo, can men be sluts? McCain seems to leave men almost entirely out of his little wank. WEIRD.

    Gee, it’s almost like these sexual mores are direct effects of a patriarchy that seeks to control women while leaving men with the power to do anything they want.

    If one were applying reason to it, one could also easily see the same patriarchal desires evident in the conservative need to restrict women’s control over their own reproductive options, and the utter freakout/shadow attraction towards male homosexuality.

    Damn sluts are ruining everything.

     
     

    Erm, they do it for a variety of reasons, and not all of them are good.

     
     

    Um, that “Right” was for Sub. AND ONLY HIM !

     
     

    Have the furries weighed in on this yet?
    ~

     
     

    Here, here RoedoBob. I don’t get the “I don’t get” posts. At. All. To each ‘is or ‘er own. You don’t like it? Don’t get it/have it done. But don’t think you can force or browbeat your particular viewpoint all about as if it’s the only right way to go.

    All I’m saying is, instead of, “Guh, I don’t GET hairless balls or shaving pubes”, how about, “Meh, I prefer natural.” Positive declaration rather than negative pseudo attack.

    Or am I being too sensitive about all this?

     
     

    GET RID OF THOSE GROSS FORESKINS RIGHT NOW.

     
     

    Rodeo Bob-

    Yes, that’s one reason some women shave their pubes/wax their pubes. But it isn’t the reason that the porn industry standarized no pubes in their performers (it made the men’s junk look bigger and the women’s vulvas look bigger and more sexually excited). Similarly, the increased sensation isn’t the main reason a lot of girls first try it (and increased sensation isn’t always a good thing, it’s really easy for things to get “too intense” down there and cease to feel good, especially when it’s chafing day in and day out on the underwear and clothes because of the reduced protection).

    A lot of women first shave because one of their more asshole boyfriends demanded they do it and they demanded they do it because they were the type of assholes who internalized messages from porn and more importantly from society (saying that hair on women is “gross” and “unclean” and that “real men” are attracted to youth and younger looks on women so age-play isn’t a kink, it’s a “standard attraction”).

    This is not to say that nobody does it for kink sensation play reasons. Hell, it’s the reason why shave-play is best in a kink-session, but that that attraction isn’t the reason it’s “popular”.

    And yeah, the porn industry is moving away from hair-free, that’s kind of the point of these people being late to the party, complaining about the “trend” as it’s on its way out culturally. And a lot of that comes from the feminists in the porn industry who tried to rally the industry to improve itself.

     
     

    Mind you I have no room to talk, since I look like a freakin’ sasquatch.

     
     

    Yes, you are cuz I’m for people doing whatever the fuck they want with their pubes.

     
     

    I’d think someone who’s such an expert would realize that the really sensitive bits aren’t covered with hair anyway.

    Look, go for your preference by all means, but spare me the bullshit about how a majority of American women under the age of 35 all just woke up one morning about 10 or 12 years ago and thought, “hey, you know what would be great? If I could go to someone and shell out $35 – $50 to have them spread hot wax all over my hoo-haa and rip the hair out by the roots.”

    That’s bullshit, and you know it.

     
     

    And for the shaved out there, the real meaning of the personal is political means we all make our peace with the society we are given. Those who enjoy how they look and feel shaved shouldn’t feel shame just because it has some baggage. We all do things that are our own peace-making with the messages we receive on what “women are supposed to do”. And as long as it makes you feel good, that’s a good and wonderful thing. Just make sure it makes you feel good.

     
     

    I don’t get people who don’t get that I don’t get people who don’t get people not getting stuff, because that is just nuts.

     
     

    The book “Shogun” had a dialog between two Japanese men about the local geisha/courtesan. Apparently she shaved, and as a result the men were able to “get very close” to her. I read that back in… the 70’s? I was a teenager and very interested, tho not so interested that I’d have tried it. Ouch.

     
     

    That article was linked by Professor Glenn Reynolds

    He’s the Libertarian one, isn’t he? As in “If someone’s behaviour isn’t hurting you then it’s not your feckin’ business” libertarianism?

    Groaning under the yoke.

     
     

    In all fairness, Smut, robots don’t have hair.

     
     

    I don’t get people who don’t get that I don’t get people who don’t get people not getting stuff, because that is just nuts.

    Enough with the nuts.

     
     

    You only call us a cow college because we were founded by a cow.

     
     

    Speaking of nuts, the rogue chipmunk continues to warm his on my engine manifold. Literally. I’m having to crank the hood open and sweep off the engine every few days to avoid having wood smoke blowing into the car from the heater whenever I drive more than a couple of miles.

     
     

    The pornography I’ve seen with anyone groaning under a yoke is typically pretty good, where the S&M stuff is framed with interviews where the participants assure you they all enjoy it, for what it’s worth.

    He’s the Libertarian one, isn’t he? As in “If someone’s behaviour isn’t hurting you then it’s not your feckin’ business” libertarianism?

    Yes, like Amy Alkon too.

     
     

    Jennifer, you should get him some little warm trousers or fleecy undies.

    What?

     
     

    Similarly, the increased sensation isn’t the main reason a lot of girls first try it…
    A lot of women first shave because one of their more asshole boyfriends demanded they do it…

    Yup, and I very explicitly said anyone who makes those kinds of demands has earned a croch-kich coming their way.

    Those are good claims about why women first try shaving. It’s not a very good argument why women would continue shaving, and they’re terrible arguments for why anyone would get a wax. I can see accepting a little discomfort for shaving to make someone happy; I can’t see the significantly increased cost and exceptional 24 hours of discomfort of a wax for the same purpose. But maybe I’m a selfish partner…

    The question that I keep seeing is “I don’t understand why people would get a wax; I don’t get why you’d want to remove your hair down there?” and I’m trying to provide a reasonable, rational answer that’s consistent with not just a lone experiment in defoliation, but with a repeated, continued practice that goes beyond “to please my partner”.

    To take this back to the wingnut mindset, I’ll just say that whenever someone says “why would a person do this strange thing?” the wingnut never thinks to try it themselves, or even to talk to a person who’s tried it and find out. If they had, they’d know that shaving is tricky, even if you remember not to slap on the avershave when you’re done.

     
     

    Both of my womenfolk alternate between shaved, trimmed, ‘lightly organized’, and outright furry on a schedule of roughly a year or so per ‘look’. Actually now that I think about it, senior wife flips through about every 9 months, and junior wife about every year. Currently, one is trimmed, and one is cue-ball smooth.

    Both of them are quite emphatic, however, that I am to be neatly trimmed at all times, and testicles are to be as smooth as a baby’s ass. That’s how they like it, and frankly it’s just not that big a deal to be accommodating. I am quite certain that if I had a strong preference, they would be just as happy to oblige me.

    So of course this is sort of a TMI thing, but what I am trying to get at is that it’s just hair. It ain’t moral, nor immoral, nor anything else but the business of the individual.

    Which is why you are all now uncomfortable knowing what i and my wives look like under our belt buckles. And you should be, cos it ain’t your business.

    Just like it ain’t McCain’s business, and for him to even venture an opinion on the matter reveals him to be a sexual fascist and the kind of guy who figures he has a right to tell strangers what to do with their junk. I make it a policy to never ever listen to people like him, nor to even dignify their arguments with recognition. When I hear about them I simply laugh scornfully and do precisely as I please, and I suggest we should all do the same. Even ridicule dignifies this asshole with entry into discourse, and we don’t need that.

     
     

    Even ridicule dignifies this asshole with entry into discourse, and we don’t need that.

    DON’T JUDGE ME!

     
     

    I think I understand: Gold is valuable, paper is not. You cannot pass a law making paper valuable — that’s just “fiat money.” What the feminists want for women is not natural, it’s just fiat respect.

     
     

    Just make sure it makes you feel good.

    Long time lurker. I just wanted to say that the problem with this, which is fine in theory, is that it ignores the fact that you are often trying to make peace with some people who have taken serious damage from society, religion, gender roles or just outright rape and sexual abuse… and sometimes, sometimes they can’t find an easy route towards self acceptance, and saying “I like that about you” is a useful short term step to security for them.

    And it doesn’t even have to be a damaged, or disproportional dom/sub relationship for some people to just be naturally happier being a giver rather than a taker for that matter. Isn’t this what we should be aspiring too? A little display of selflessness sometimes?

    More importantly still, it ignores a huge part of reality to pretend that it should be any other way; no one looks beautiful when having a crap, or writhing in pain from illness… but true respect and love accepts that as part of the totality of experience and commitment to another. Sometimes it is just not your time to be lucky or happy or attracted to something about someone else, but we shouldn’t fear this; only fear that others aren’t mature enough or strong enough to be there when we fall down.

    What am I trying to say? Simply this; people like McCain treat women like idealized dolls, and hate them because they can’t always be that, and they can’t command that women submit to it either. But there’s nothing wrong with a bit of either idealizing or repulsion as such; even coprophiliacs turn their noses up at other things! The important thing is to love and respect other people despite them being different and being flawed and not always what we want. Embrace the whole. And to respect and love them when they give us a little time with our fetishes in turn, because we understand it’s a true gift…

    … not condemn them for “wanting to make someone else happy.” As long as it’s done out of love, in love, to support love, it’s all beautiful. Shaved or not, and for what ever rationale they think makes it attractive or not.

    Not saying Cerebus your quoted reply misses that; but an awful lot of feminist blogging does, and turns loving men into assumed enemies because they express an interest in seeing cunt; when there’s nothing wrong even with the word, in the right context. Just don’t dirty talk when grandma is coming to tea, and always use it when it can turn her on, as a creative act, and never to reduce, emotionally cripple or belittle her. But otherwise, cunts are dirty, wicked things right? Hurrah for that! Let’s get dirty! And tomorrow you’ll tell me your opinion of the art gallery we went too, and I’ll genuinely be interested in that part of who you are too…

     
     

    I’d say it’s you who are making assumptions: AT NO TIME did any woman here say that people should not be able to do what they want with their junk.

    And the straw-feminist bashing can stop RIGHT NOW.

     
     

    Ok I’m still with “groan” but after that kennyg goes puritan

     
     

    Wait, aren’t these the same guys who express disgust at the slightest glimpse of female armpit hair?

     
     

    I am rather incredibly nearsighted. I have been in close proximity to Mrs__B’s nethers – one might even say in intimate contact – and I have no real idea what they look like. And that matters to me not in the least…which is good, because there are times in a marriage when one cannot say “Stop for a minute while I put my glasses on.”

     
     

    Wait, aren’t these the same guys who express disgust at the slightest glimpse of female armpit hair?

    You’re supposed to conform THIS way, not THAT way.

     
     

    It’s true – I deserve to offended!

     
     

    Wingnuts are terrified by women who own their sexuality. Just look at when Cain finally self-destructed, it was when a woman said she had a consensual affair with him, but the sexual harassment incidents? Thats just boys being boys.

    This.

    The double standard has been commented on by many people before and is probably as old as society itself. (At least as old as our “Judeo-Christian” values which codified that it was a woman’s obligation to submit to her husband, with all the implications that has for equality of treatment).

     
     

    bare genitals are beautiful and horrifying. keep em shaved/waxed

    or grow that shit out. wtf do I know?

     
     

    Bear genitals are generally furry. And dangerous to get near.

     
     

    Mr. Thread, he dead.

     
     

    But it was about dirty parts and everything!

     
     

    It wouldn’t have died if it was about RON PAUL’s vagina.

     
     

    OK, call me old-fashioned, but I don’t get the whole shaved down there thing. Maybe it’s my age, but I grew up looking at Playboy and Penthouse in the 1970s, and women had hair down there dang it.

    It’s a bit to prepubescent girl for me.

    bbkf – not to mention the fact that you can’t really do a Brazilian wax on yourself
    One of my neighbors did in fact DIY.

     
     

    Speaking as a former slut, I can assure you that none of my fuck-buddies ever put sex with me and “horror” in the same sentence. Slut-shaming is pretty much the provenance of right-wing women and men— men I wouldn’t fuck on a bet and the wives of men I wouldn’t fuck on a bet. It’s supposed to fun, not like wearing a flaming hair-shirt or only o.k. if you pledge your whole life to some POS like this guy. Is that the problem?

    Of all the pain and injustice in this world, of all the disorder crying out for remedy, and all the mind-numbing mechanization of life itself crying out for REAL freedom—not that shit the wingnuts are always carrying on about— with all that is truly wrong about this world that this man could say and even DO something about— what does he do? He combs the web for something women are doing for themselves and the people of their choice with their very own mons areas and deciding to label and shame them as if they were the problem and not his perverse aversions and shaming of the characters of many random women because of how they like to have their pubic hair styled.

    Just goes to show— you don’t have to have a pussy to be a pussy. How fortunate it would be if the hand of Gawd would punch this pathetic piece of whining, bitching, moaning misogynist shit right in the kisser, then sock him in the nuts til he doubles over in pain and vomits.

     
     

    On the hairy subject at hand (heh) Can everyone get over the whole “shaving pubes is all about infantilization or pornification or whatever of women” already? It’s a matter of taste (yum!), fashion and personal preference. Like a big ol’ hairy wookie bush? Great, grow one, or find a ladyfriend who’ll grow one for ya. Prefer the baldie beav, or something in between (heh)? Do that. But don’t pretend you’re somehow all superior about it. How many of you guys would enjoy it if your ladylove decided to let her pits go all au naturel? Be honest. How many of you wimmins would be willing to stop shaving your legs if hubby decided he liked that? Would you still wear shorts? Hmmm? Believe it or not, shaving legs and armpits was virtually unknown until quite a bit less than a hundred years ago. One day, we may be “allowed” to stop arbitrarily removing hair from certain parts of our bodies, but until then, we not only accept the style of our time, we come to view it in the same way, as attractive or repulsive according to what we are raised to believe is the standard of beauty. Be thankful you don’t live in pre-20th Century China, or we would all truly believe that a woman with normal-sized, non-crippled feet would be as hideous as we now feel a woman with naturally hairy arms, legs, pits and pubes is.

     
     

    Funny, I keep seeing these admonishments about how everyone should be able to style their pubes to their own choice, yet no one here ever suggested otherwise.

    But yeah, sorry, it’s a fashion and it didn’t just materialize out of the ether. It came from porn, and then probably filtered down through the “beauty” and fashion magazines, though I wouldn’t know because I don’t look at that tripe, like it or not. In other words, it wasn’t just a bunch of women suddenly deciding they didn’t want hair down there; it was another fashion trend they decided to conform to, and while everyone is free to do as they like, and no one here, again, has suggested otherwise, that was a trend that a lot of us finally said, “Now we’re expected to make the parts that almost no one ever sees conform to a certain ideal? Go fuck yourself.”

    By the same token, fuck those stupid fucking platform heels that make most women look like they’re wearing Frankenstein boots while at the same time, crippling themselves. They look like shit and I’m not about to fucking ruin my feet so I end up hobbling in my old age to wear something that looks ridiculous in the first place.

    That’s the point. Fuck the conformity, and again, sorry, but the “you must go bare” was where the conformity was just a few short years ago. Like 2 or 3. Let’s not pretend that the pressure for conformity is or was coming from anyone here, or that speaking an opinion that says “no way would I pay to do that” for whatever reason = equating women who DO do that with “sluts” or anything else.

    Are we clear now? Good.

     
     

    How many of you guys would enjoy it if your ladylove decided to let her pits go all au naturel? Be honest.

    The amount of time I spend thinking about armpits is near zero. Indeed, some may wish to encourage me to think just a little bit harder about armpits.

     
     

    thunder —

    I’ve been retired from the fandom for a while, but from what I remember, male furries express a marked preference for being thoroughly shaved, weirdly enough. This may have something to do with the high percentage of gays and bi men in the fandom. Plus furries tend to stack other fetishes on top of the one for petting zoo people (this got annoying real fast, btw).

     
     

    But yeah, sorry, it’s a fashion

    If I had all kinds of money I’d pay Kim Kardashian or some other fashion trendsetter to walk around with a duck on their head just to see how many people would start doing it.

     
     

    OK, I have to throw in on this one. I have never liked shaved genitals. I would not demand it of any lover, and I refuse to do it myself. That’s my right.

    On the other hand, I know a guy who asks all his girlfriends to shave, and shaves himself. I used to think he was kind of a db for making them shave, but they usually come around to it, and like it. Not always, though, and getting it done is a bitch.

    Are my shaved friends having better sex than me and my lady? Hard to say. But whatever, it’s their choice. I just can’t help but think, though, that it’s a painful waste of money. There’s my 2c.

    (Also, this is why I do not watch very much white people porn produced over the past decade and a half)

     
     

    Enquiring minds want to know where RSM comes down on manscaping.

    Wait, no they don’t. I apologize for any emetic violence my comment may have caused. I mean, eeeeeewwww.

     
     

    wow…it’s pretty weird to go from watching the george c. scott ‘christmas carol’ with hubbkf and then jump right into the hair/no hair down there convo again…

    i seriously don’t get the waxing down there people only because fucking OUCH…but then again, i almost threw up trying to wax my own legs…and i should say one small strip of one leg because after ripping the first strip off, i could not get myself to do it again…

    anyhoo, what it all comes down to for me is that yeah, do what you want with whatever parts of your body…but like cerbs and others have said, do it for you…and don’t be the asshole that forces someone to do things they don’t want to do…

    and the fact that *stace* wrote this post AT ALL is just disgusting to me…like the d00d with 2 wives (wtf?) said, what’s below others’ belt buckles ain’t nobody else’s bidness…the post, like *stace* himself is demeaning in so many ways…none of his fucking business, it’s other people’s junk, women are sluts, porn…i mean, it’s just fucking juvenile and hypersexual at the same time…men like this bring out the vigilante in me…i have a feeling he’s the same kind of guy who didn’t like to take ‘no’ for an answer and really meant it when he said ‘put out or get out’ when he as *fast* at college…

    his line (that the dumb fucker can’t even get right thereby proving once again that wingnuts cannot tell a fucking *joke*) that these sluts need to be offended ‘often by someone who knows how’ is all the proof needed…he makes me sick…

     
     

    Enquiring minds want to know where RSM comes down on manscaping.

    one of his commenters says that men who shave their backs are fagz…

     
     

    also, too…they think men who take off their shirts and still have on a sweater vest are pretty fucking manly…

     
     

    not that i’m judging…i am quite close to someone who has a sweater vest and i love him dearly…

    also too, i always knew it would be something like the sweater vest that would kill a thread…

     
     

    Heh. Mentions of chest and back hair kill a thread that’s all about pubic hair.

    Only at Sadly, No!

     
     

    wow…it’s pretty weird to go from watching the george c. scott ‘christmas carol’ with hubbkf and then jump right into the hair/no hair down there convo again…

    Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? Are there no effective methods of eliminating razor rash?

     
     

    Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? Are there no effective methods of eliminating razor rash?

    ahaha…the ghost of christmas present could certainly have used a bit of manscaping…

     
     

    Heh. Mentions of chest and back hair kill a thread that’s all about pubic hair.
    Only at Sadly, No!

    right?! although i now have visions of sadlies doing some mad plucking, shaving, yanking…oh, right…the yanking is usually always going on…

     
     

    speaking of annoying things that keep coming back:

    argh!

     
     

    speaking of annoying things

    Alaskan residents as we build a natural gas up here this summer even to see what way the political wind’s blowing? They’re waiting to see war ended. We end war when we see victory, and we have the stringent and safe oversight that is the whole goal here in Alaska, though. My goodness. It is what it leads to.
    And, Charlie, you’re in Alaska. We have not had a plan. Alaska should be a multi-faceted solution that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that should allow some perspective there also. But you know, that has shown his foresight, his pragmatism, and his leadership abilities. And that is the right reasons and serving for the right to invade, we’re going to work with these leaders around our world is through education, through books, through mediums that have provided me a lot of other senators and representatives did for us. I’ll try to find you some and I’ll bring them to you. I’m all about and up on the table.

     
     

    Believe it or not, shaving legs and armpits was virtually unknown until quite a bit less than a hundred years ago. One day, we may be “allowed” to stop arbitrarily removing hair from certain parts of our bodies, but until then, we not only accept the style of our time, we come to view it in the same way, as attractive or repulsive according to what we are raised to believe is the standard of beauty.

    No shit. I remember being actually shocked and repulsed watching the ’72 olympics and seeing the hair in the armpits of the German women. Then I was suddenly shocked that that struck me as dirty. We don’t think the hair in men’s armpits is dirty. Why would we think the hair in women’s armpits is any different? I was twelve, and I got over it immediately upon being exposed to it and examining my (over)reaction. I have yet, however, figured out what’s wrong with grownups who get all bent out of shape over something that one would think that their god created if they just stopped to think about it for a few seconds. It’s especially odd that so many professed Christians are so quick to judge as if their savior had said, “Judge away! Judge your little brains out! Don’t stop to think why— just judge, judge, judge, judge, judge, judge, judge! I like that!!! I’ll reward that!! Every time you proclaim something to be accursed you get rewards points to purchase gold and jewels in heaven!”

     
     

    Speaking of how gross hair is, my favorite part of this fraudulent ‘honor killing’ memoir is the obviously European author, while pretending to be a Palestinian, dwelling over what she perceives to be the degenerate body-hair policies of her disgusting race: she is simultaneously upset that, as far as she is concerned, Palestinian women are forced (presumably at scimitar-point) to depilate their pubic hair for the men who write the laws and also are never made to shave their legs, even though that’s super gross to have hair down there.

    Any aspect of patriarchy to do with coquetry is most viciously and closely enforced by women clawing at one another for being gross, slutty, trashy, etc; on that token, I can’t but suspect a man who has more interest in a lady’s area hair than her hair area is mostly in the business of having sex with women so as finally to get a chance to fuck down; that is, that they’d be happier with men if they didn’t (probably rationally) expect every other man they met to top them without mercy or humanity.

    Because who in God’s name is going to bottom for Bob Stacy McCain.

     
     

    I’ve been retired from the fandom for a while, but from what I remember, male furries express a marked preference for being thoroughly shaved, weirdly enough. This may have something to do with the high percentage of gays and bi men in the fandom.

    I’d have expected furries of all people to be more bear-friendly than the mainstream. (No, that’s not a pun. Okay, a little.)

     
     

    One day in the future, if we survive that long, when people start looking back at history. And start to uncover the “correspondences” of the political right and left in the US. Then there’s going to be a specific narrative explaining all of it, and it will go about like this:

    “In the early 21st century, with the ascent of internet culture, previously secluded autistic man-children with unlimited spare time rose from their bedrooms and – thanks to popular media and online culture gaining influence in 24h news generation – conquered the political debate.

    The rule of NEET culminated in the now infamous 2030 legislation regarding prohibition on making fun of fat children, and the 2029 referendum on outlawing cooties. NEET rule reached the nadir with the successful outlawing in 2036 of the word “mother””.

     
     

    Maybe it makes certain fursuits easier to wear? (There’s some latex costuming out there, I think.)

     
     

    a flaming hair-shirt
    Doubling down on the masochism there.

    How many of you guys would enjoy it if your ladylove decided to let her pits go all au naturel? Be honest.

    Finding it very hard to give a damn. I can’t even imagine giving a damn.

    He combs the web for something women are doing for themselves
    Combing the web.

    Plus furries tend to stack other fetishes on top of the one for petting zoo people
    Stacking the fetish.

    I don’t even want to know who “petting zoo people” are. That’s getting into restraining-order territory.

     
     

    Maybe it makes certain fursuits easier to wear? (There’s some latex costuming out there, I think.)

    It’s possible. I’d have guessed that any body suit that could benefit from shaving would benefit way more from a good coat of talcum powder or some other absorbent dry lubricant.

    Mostly it just seems striking and inappropriate that a culture which is ostensibly supposed to be especially indifferent to human imperfection would have a bug up its ass about body hair – especially male body hair, which doesn’t generally get a bad rap as ‘imperfections’ go. (Or were you talking about female body hair, lurker?)

     
     

    I don’t think I could handle being a furry. I always found the chem warfare suits very hot and claustrophobic.

     
     

    — evil can and is “normalized” by our popular culture —

    Really? This, from someone who thinks waterboarding ay-rabs is an ethical duty. “Normalizing” torture: moral pinnacle. “Normalizing” women having sex how and with whom they choose: moral atrocity.

    That’s one deeply damaged individual.

    That item from ‘RSM’ fairly reeked of Play-Doh and bacon.

    Came across this the other day and thought it would make the perfect xmas gift for ol’ Ace.

     
     

    Cerb. Really. There’s a *more* tag. Learn it please.

     
     

    I always found the chem warfare suits very hot and claustrophobic.

    Well, the bushy tails don’t help

     
     

    The amount of time I spend thinking about armpits is near zero.

    Well, you’d need to actually have sex to care…

     
     

    You people who think this pubis-shaving business was invented in the 1990s, go Google “Harrison Marks.”

     
     

    What’s the difference between shaving and other issues involving sex? I don’t care what consenting adults do in terms of fucking, so why should I care what they do in terms of depilation? I have some interest in what Mrs__B does with her hair, but I wouldn’t coerce her to shave (if I wanted that and I don’t) any more than I’d coerce her to a style of sex she didn’t like.

    Unlike a lot of socialization issues, this one is completely private. Thanks to my subway commute, I see a few hundred people each day and I have no way of knowing if they shave because it’s hidden. So who cares?

     
     

    a culture which is ostensibly supposed to be especially indifferent to human imperfection

    HAHAHAHA OH WOW

    I hung around the fandom for a while. Indifferent to human imperfection? They *revel* in it. It’s why so many of them want to ditch their humanity for something else in the first place.

     
     

    Actor. Really. There’s a *scroll* wheel. Deal with it, please.

     
     

    Funny, I keep seeing these admonishments about how everyone should be able to style their pubes to their own choice, yet no one here ever suggested otherwise.

    I know, Jennifer. Reading comprehension. Some people need to work on it.

    Let me type this slowly for some of you:

    Jennifer mentioned that popularity of shaved pubes had to do with the pornification of the culture. THAT IS TRUE. That being said, people should be able to be as bare or hirsute as they want down there. NO ONE. SAID. OTHERWISE.

    Pornification of culture? Freedom to pube or de-pube as people see fit? These two concepts can co-exist peacefully.

     
     

    If the culture has been pornified, I need to order in pizza more often.

     
     

    ‘Cuz you want some guys to bring you the sausage?

     
     

    I want the chix to bring the sauce.

     
     

    I make the best marinara. Sexy? No. Yummy. Yes.

     
     

    Pubes to pasta sauce. I love S,N.

     
     

    I make the best marinara

    Recipe?

     
     

    It’s moral to give oral to a cunny less “floral.”

     
     

    Our democracy:

    Could be worse: we could be Hungary.

     
     

    HAHAHAHA OH WOW

    I hung around the fandom for a while. Indifferent to human imperfection? They *revel* in it. It’s why so many of them want to ditch their humanity for something else in the first place.

    I know, I know. ‘Supposed to be’ and all that.

    A lot of growing up is learning to expect disappointment from the high hopes you have for nerds. The first thing a lot of people do when finding a community is learn how to kick down, you know?

     
     

    I was a little bit Hungary, but then I had a couple of handfulls of Czechs Mix, and now I’m Lithuanian to my iPod.

     
     

    Recipe?

    For brunch it is Caçouppe au Marin*, served in novelty dildo self-molder; towel wringings flambé garnished with rancid brazil nut powder; for brunch pastry it is six mouffins anglais soaked in raw egg. Wine: Pinot Grigio, in its own phlegm.

    * An old family recipe for Ketchup Marinara: mix sun-dried W Ketchup – America’s only ketchup, left in the sun for at least a day – , mirin, Marmite, lard, red wine, anchovy paste; add an equal mix salt and cornstarch until your sauce is the texture of silicone rubber.

    Perfect for guests or meals alone with your hateful cat.

     
     

    The thread has apparently succumbed to ptomaine poisoning.

     
     

    I make the best marinara

    Recipe?

    You know it’s nothing very fancy, which is why it’s so good. It’s a great base sauce, but I think i like it best just on its own.

    I saute about a 1/4 cup finely diced onions in around 1/4 cup good quality olive oil. Right as they are about done sweating I add in around 3-6 medium to large smashed and roughly chopped cloves of garlic and a generous dash of salt and pepper. I let them release their fragrance then throw in 28 oz. San Marzano tomato–any kind, really. Mixing maybe crushed with chopped is ideal. (I like a chunky sauce.) I like to put in a little pinch of dried oregano or Italian seasoning, but that’s optional. I add in a couple generous tbsp. of tomato paste and a generous pinch of sugar. I let this mess simmer, UNCOVERED, for around 20-35 minutes, until it thickens up. At the very end, before serving, I toss in a huge honkin’ pile of fresh roughly-chopped basil.

    O
    M
    G

     
     

    Oh, N_B, happy birthday a day late, if my memory is working properly. And to Helmut likewise. Hope you both had great days.

     
     

    A day early, but who’s counting?

     
     

    Pooped your pants yet?

    If anyone says boo, you can say “COME ON! It’s my birthday!”

     
     

    Also, Happy B-day to you and Helmut. Not to get all ass-kissy, but both your posts have always been a delight to read.

     
     

    Oops! So memory not working. I hate getting old, dammit. I have to use a mirror to shave my pits now, can’t see the damn things anymore otherwise.

     
    Whale Chowder from his phone
     

    He combs the web

    If the web were properly shaved, this wouldn’t be necessary.

     
     

    I have to use a mirror to shave my pits now

    Your ears are sagging that far?

     
     

    If the web were properly shaved, this wouldn’t be necessary.

    Obviously the web has not been socialized enough through exposure to pornography.

     
     

    Thanks to my subway commute, I see a few hundred people each day and I have no way of knowing if they shave because it’s hidden. So who cares?

    Then why are there mirrors on your shoes?

     
     

    I have to use a mirror to shave my pits now, can’t see the damn things anymore otherwise.

    See my last post.

     
     

    Pah! To get the real insults in the SEC you have to go to inbreeding.

    What does an Auburn co-ed say after sex?

    “Get off me Daddy, you’re crushing my cigarettes.”

     
     

    Auburn

    More ginger-bashing.

     
     

    If I could see any of you clearly I’d smack the fool out of you with my granny purse.

     
     

    If I could see any of you clearly I’d smack the fool out of you with my granny purse.

    And yes, I know I already said it wordpress you motherfucker but I reloaded 80 times and it’s STILL not there so FUCK YOU.

    Yes, the little old lady has a potty mouth.

     
     

    Fucking wordpress is eating my comments

     
     

    Ha ha, tigris has shaved comments.

     
     

    Ha ha, tigris has shaved comments.

    I have deep interest in this concept and would like to know if there is a website or perhaps newsletter available that I might subscribe to.

     
     

    It’s cuz I used THE FORBIDDEN WORD. What I said was: if I could see any of you clearly I’d smack the fule* out of you with my granny purse.

    *HELP HELP I’m being word-oppressed!

     
     

    *HELP HELP I’m being word-oppressed!

    The word-violence inherent in the word-system?

     
     

    There are obnoxious people who have no idea how obnoxious they are. And there are obnoxious people who glory in their obnoxiousness.

    It’s clear which category this McCain pimple belongs in. It’s less clear which one is more contemptible.

     
     

    Smut —

    “Petting Zoo People” is not a term from the fandom, but from tvtropes.org (a fantastic site, btw). It pretty well describes the kind of “anthros” that are typical in furry art; i.e., characters with very naturalistic humanoid bodies (that translate easily into effective p0rn) from the neck down. As opposed on one hand to “funny animals,” like Bugs Bunny or Snoopy, and on the other to characters with minimal or no physical anthropomorphism on the other, e.g. Stuart Little.

     
     

    ack, strike one of those “on the other”‘s. moar coffee needed

     
     

    characters with very naturalistic humanoid bodies

    So, like, Adam Sandler?

     
     

    N__B said,
    December 20, 2011 at 18:07

    Auburn

    More ginger-bashing.

    First, they came for the ginger and I said nothing, then they came for the lemongrass and I said “WTF, YO!? LEMONGRASS IS WONDERFULLY FRAGRANT, FUCKNUTS!”

     
     

    cerbs! tintin! anybody!!! give us a new topic!!! please!!! i cannot take any more thoughts/references/ideas/ about *stace*!!! he is the worst ballcheez imaginable and does not deserve any further attention…apparently even the mighty alaskan grifter is not powerful enough to shift this thread…

     
     

    Shifting the thread.

     
     

    i cannot take any more thoughts/references/ideas/ about *stace*!!!

    Lie back, close your eyes, and think of Adam Sandler.

     
     

    you two are not helping…i keep trying to think happy thoughts…like this morning, my son said for christmas he is going to go to ‘build a bear’ and make his sister a mn twins bear…how fricking sweet is that?!?!?

     
     

    like this morning, my son said for christmas he is going to go to ‘build a bear’ and make his sister a mn twins bear…how fricking sweet is that?!?!?

    Do they still play the base ball?

     
     

    my son said for christmas he is going to go to ‘build a bear’

    I thought bears were born, not made.

     
     

    Do they still play the base ball?

    hey now!

    I thought bears were born, not made.

    or maybe my son’s slowly becoming a furry…who knows?

     
     

    Do they still play the base ball?

    Better than the Vikings play the foot ball.

    Screw it, it’s hockey season.

     
     

    my son’s slowly becoming a furry

    “American Werewolf in Minnesota”

     
     

    Screw it, it’s hockey season

    hockey has taken our minds off our dismal vikes…that and the wnba…

    “American Werewolf in Minnesota”

    shhhh! he’s already worried he’s going to inherit his father’s sweater vest!

     
     

    he’s already worried he’s going to inherit his father’s sweater vest!

    Well? Did your husband leave it to your son in his will or what?

     
     

    Well? Did your husband leave it to your son in his will or what?

    dang, if that’s possible, imma see about giving him his inheritance early!

     
     

    Screw it, it’s hockey season.

    Are the Wild still in Minnesota?

    It almost seems, between the Atlanta to Winnipeg move and the rumoured Phoenix to Toronto (or Ontario) move, that we’re giving back hockey down here.

     
     

    I thought bears were born, not made.

    Only if they’re gay bears.

     
     

    dang, if that’s possible, imma see about giving him his inheritance early!

    but actually, i don’t think either one of them would go for the skin-grafting…

     
     

    imma see about giving him his inheritance early!

    Errrrrrrrrr, should we be calling the state troopers here?

     
     

    Are the Wild still in Minnesota?

    indeed…

     
     

    Errrrrrrrrr, should we be calling the state troopers here?

    nope…all i’ll need is a sharp knife, a steady hand and some needle and thread…

     
     

    all i’ll need is a sharp knife, a steady hand and some needle and thread…

    It puts the shampoo in the basket…

     
     

    imma see about giving him his inheritance early!

    You could always ask hubbkf to wax. Then he’ll look just like a Calvin Klein model!

     
     

    You could always ask hubbkf to wax.

    we’ve tried teh hair removal lotions and the grow back was an annoying process…he’s too much of a wuss to wax…although i am really, really tempted to do it sometimes anyway…like when he’s snoring super loudly at night…

    but anyhoo…waxing teh bod is icky and hubbkf is not slutty like that…

     
     

    Then he’ll look just like a Calvin Klein model!

    he already does!

     
     

    Ha! CK models are more hairless than a hairless thingamabob.

     
     

    he’s too much of a wuss to wax…although i am really, really tempted to do it sometimes anyway…like when he’s snoring super loudly at night…

    And I thought that throwing water on someone’s face was a cruel way of waking them up.

     
     

    It’s like you believe 1950s gender norms were changed somewhere in between then and now and now people are expected to at least pretend women are people or something.

    I have nothing to add other than I initially read this as “gender noms” and that was ridiculously funny to me for some reason.

    Om nom nom!

    I think I need moar sleep.

     
     

    I think I need moar sleep.

    or more waxing…

     
     

    Ha! CK models are more hairless than a hairless thingamabob.

    c’mon! a girl can dream, can’t she?!?!?

     
     

    Not if she’s busy waxing the sleeping people around her.

     
     

    “Wax on, whacks off”

     
     

    or more waxing…

    The pain and screaming would probably make me more alert for a few moments at least.

    Honestly, now that I think very briefly about the “down there hair” issue, I guess for as little as I’ve ever thought about it I always figured that teh wymminz were simply waxing/shaving the “proper” amount necessary to not have hair poking out everywhere when wearing swimwear. And that the “brazillian” thing was because of how fucking tiny those “brazillian” bikinis are. And that y’alls didn’t worry about it in the winter.

    But now I’m so happy to know it’s cause you’re all a bunch of slutty sluts.

     
     

    The thread has apparently succumbed to ptomaine poisoning.

    This being S,N!, I’d be more inclined to suspect Petomane poisoning.

     
     

    Then he’ll look just like a Calvin Klein model!

    Of course, if he was a Calvin and Hobbes model, he could make a great furry

     
     

    Pubic Topiary … kick-ass albums, but I hear they suck live.

     
     

    ha, ha…linda brecke just said ‘quarter trim loins’ during the market update…

     
     

    I hear they suck live.

    Any port in a storm, my friend, any port in a storm

     
     

    OT: Vaclav Havel’s death reminded me of his connection to Frank Zappa and just how big a bunch of assholes James Baker and the whole PMRC, especially Susan Baker and Tipper Gore were.

     
     

    linda brecke just said ‘quarter trim loins’

    If someone is offering trim and loins for a quarter, I’d want a body condom. Extra large.

     
     

    Skip the sugar, vs. Add a bit of grated carrot with the garlic. Gives that perfect hint of sweetness.

     
     

    Skip the sugar, vs. Add a bit of grated carrot with the garlic. Gives that perfect hint of sweetness.

    i started doing this when the kids were little…i got really good at sneaking extra veggies in lots of stuff…

     
     

    Perfect for guests or meals alone with your hateful cat.

    I have no hateful cats! Just two love sponges.
    .

     
     

    i got really good at sneaking extra veggies in lots of stuff…

    My mom never had to sneak. She’d turn her ring around and smack heads. We ate veggies.

     
     

    She’d turn her ring around and smack heads.

    You got a piece of the rock.
    .

     
     

    That “OMG We’re gonna be grandparents video? Allow me to further warm your hearts.

     
     

    Skip the sugar, vs. Add a bit of grated carrot with the garlic. Gives that perfect hint of sweetness.

    I do put carrot in my Bolognese. It is does add lovely sweetness.

     
     

    Perfect for guests or meals alone with your hateful cat.

    BTW, I forgot to say how funny I found this.

     
     

    You got a piece of the rock.

    My dad wasn’t that generous, It was more like a piece of a window

     
     

    Bbkf: yeah, you might be startled to know there are lots of polygamous families around. It’s just that since junior wife isn’t 13, none of us are cultists, nobody finds us entertaining enough to put on reality tv.

    And as we all know, if you ain’t on reality tv, you don’t exist.

     
     

    I do put carrot in my Bolognese.

    Sometimes it’s too easy.

     
     

    Sometimes it’s too easy.

    I was just sitting here, sipping my herbal tea, thinking the same thing

     
     

    Ok, you bastiches, new post is up. It probably has typos and might ramble, but I don’t really have the time. Today and tomorrow are a bit crazy for me, but might be crazy awesome and end in enough part-time employment to actually pay rent every month.

     
     

    Carrot is lovely in bolognese. Also white wine is better than red, and I use ground pork instead of the more common beef. If you have a meat grinder you can fresh grind the pork very coarsely, then simmer for about 8 hrs before reducing quickly to the right consistency…Mmmmmm

     
     

    It probably has typos

    WHAT?!!!!! This will not stand! I never make such mistakes!

    Carrot is lovely in bolognese. Also white wine is better than red, and I use ground pork instead of the more common beef.

    Oooh, pork sounds good. Imma try that next time.

     
     

    Bbkf: yeah, you might be startled to know there are lots of polygamous families around. It’s just that since junior wife isn’t 13,

    hmmm…i did not know this…am relieved to hear that junior wife isn’t 13…and didn’t sister wives guy get busted by being on reality tv?

     
     

    Vaclav Havel’s death reminded me of his connection to Frank Zappa

    Pigs throughout the Warsaw Pact countries railed in vain against “that damn Zappa music” while Samizdat nerds cunningly distributed it as shite flexi-singles & LPs pressed right into the pages of magazines … & there’s no doubt he didn’t make any friends in high places by drawing a direct analogy from how his albums were reacted to by the KGB/Stasi/etc. to the PMRC & their Congresshubbies’ backroom bros.

    Censorship takes many forms. Zappa also had a prime teaching gig at a major music institute scuttled because someone/s were VERY CONCERNED about having a guy on staff who’d call songs things like “G-Spot Tornado” or “Nanook Rubs It” – which is (as he pointed out at the time) absurd, given his level of musical skill & knowhow … & his proposal for a late-night TeeVee series (“Night School”) likely succumbed to identical concern-trolling.

     
     

    Cerbs, got my fingers crossed for you.

     
     

    hussies, harlots, trollops, tramps, vamps, floozies and whores.

    Is it just me, or does that sounds like a line from a Mel Brooks movie?

    I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.

     
     

    i have a feeling *stace* would need even a mel brooks movie explained to him…except for the fart jokes…

     
     

    My wife and i have shaved for about 13 years. Why? Cause i can “get to her” better. Mouthfull of salty hair is not very pleasant, for either of us. And as for the porn industry, the shaven look has been around in films/mags since the early 70’s. And the main reason for it is not to make wee-wee’s and woo-woo’s look bigger. It’s so you can see them better! If there is any case for waxing, watch “Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice” and see Elliott Gould’s shoulder/back hair floating in the pool. It was gross in 1969, let alone, 2011.

     
     

    And yet I’m left wondering what he would say about women who don’t shave their armpits and legs.

     
     

    Porn hatred. Is that really what Sadly, No! has come to?

    I expect that from Amanda Marcotte, when she’s trying to figure out why the guys she likes won’t fuck her (at least, that’s what I took her “Men’s standards are too high because PORN!” post to be about), but this is just ridiculous.

     
     

    The Brit’s have a term for the likes of him, wanker.

     
     

    “Cause everyone knows pornography didn’t exist before 1969 and the pornography industry is directly connected to the philosophy of the “sexual revolution” and leftist philosophy in general.”

    Heh. He said sixty-nine!

     
     

    You all do know that I just jacked off to that photo-shopped picture of RS McCain sitting naked with a Coors, don’t you? Rule 34 of the Internet!

    (And now aren’t you sad that you skipped to the comment section first?) 😛

     
     

    Het male furries I know are into chicks who don’t shave anything.

    I know it’s not very feminist of me, but shaved legs turn me on. Hair obscures the curves, I think.

    My wife and I trim and shave because otherwise you end up choking on hairs during oral sex. NOT. FUN.

    We trim our nails for similar reasons.

     
     

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