I Saw Mommy Nailing Santa Claus

Meet Fay Voshell, who gets to post at the American Genius blog because many years ago she got the high score on some test at University of Delaware, apparently due to the fact that she was one of the few students there who could spell the name of the university correctly.

Evidently it isn’t enough for rabid secularists to take Christ out of Christmas. Now, in a macabre twofer …

What now, Fay? What are the liberals doing to Christmas this year? Putting free abortion certificates in Salvation Army kettles? Are they making the Yuletide gay? Arresting people for saying Merry Christmas to store clerks? What?

Santa is being crucified, too.

Those Jews They just couldn’t stop with our Lord, could they?

The most recent location of the worldwide phenomenon which is characterized by a ritualistic crucifixion of good St. Nicholas has been the Leesburg, Virginia courthouse lawn, apparently merely one of a spate of Santa crucifixions across the world.

You know that Fay belongs in the august company of all the thinkers over at the American Thinker because she uses words like “spate,” except I’m not sure she knows what it means because her link goes to an article that talks about the Leesburg “crucifixion” and says nary a word about any other crucifixions manifesting this “worldwide phenomenon.” I mean, I was expecting to read about the latest Santa-fixions in Riyadh, Tel Aviv and Beijing, presumably some of the more significant fronts in the War on Christmas, but, no, just Leesburg. Sigh. Fay had gotten me all excited for nothing.

But, actually, even in Leesburg, there doesn’t appear to have been any Santa-crucifying going on. Let’s roll the tape:

Gee, Fay. That doesn’t look like Santa to me. Not even Santa after a few months on the grapefruit diet. That look like a skeleton in a Santa suit. No beard. No rotund tummy. No rosy cheeks. I call bullshit.

The crucified Santa is mockery of Christmas and Christian beliefs; mockery similar to the anti-Semitic outbreaks with which we all are familiar.

Yep, put a Santa suit on a skeleton on a cross and the next thing you know, they’ll be pulling children out of Sunday school and sending them off by the railroad car to get gassed. That’s what happens when you forget that the true meaning of Christmas is about the birth of the baby Santa to a virgin in a manger and about how he gave gifts to the Magi and performed the awesome miracle of the flying reindeer and then was crucified by the Jewish merchants because he was hurting Christmas sales and then, on the third day rose again, exclaiming, ere he flew out of sight “Happy Easter to all and to all a good night!” Or something like that anyway.

 

Comments: 232

 
 
 

Ho, Ho, Ho.

 
 

All these posts!!! I could get used to this!!!

 
 

I feel sorry for the guy who has to keep dressing up in a fat suit, year after year, decade after decade, to preserve the illusion that Santa is real for this woman.

 
 

The Santa-zombie in the picture isn’t even being crucified. Feet on the ground, arm slung casually over the crossbar . . . yes, it’s a cross but not a crucifixion.

 
 

Yeah, I’m not seeing a crucifixion either.

 
 

Let it be remembered that the bastards and bastardettes weren’t even happy with the War on Thanksgiving this year.

No, they had to go and make war on Halloween, too.
~

 
 

Will these horrid, horrid pagans stop at nothing to defile our sacred holy pagan Christmas symbols? First they attacked Jesus by hanging condoms on a pine tree; now they’re mocking SAINT Nick by hanging him on a cross? Don’t they know that crucifixtion is only for Jesus and Sarah Palin? What’s next, Rudolph’s head mounted over the door of a whorehouse with his nose serving as the red light?

 
 

Looks to me like a protest of the capitalist exploitation of Christmas, transforming the celebration of the birth of an antimaterialist communalist revolutionary firebrand into a consumer frenzy.

 
 

Will these horrid, horrid pagans stop at nothing to defile our sacred holy pagan Christmas symbols?

Next thing you know, they’ll be stealing our holiday dates to celebrate their own gods! And making a mockery out of the things we worship by setting them up in the living room and putting presents underneath them! And setting up their own Vatican in what used to be our capital city!

Oh.

Ah…

I’ll just be quiet now.

 
 

Zombie Santa wants your BRAAAINS for his cookies.

The milk he’s okay with, though.

 
 

I have no intention of reading the original, but even if there were a “spate” of Santa crucifixions, it seems at least equally likely to me that they were perpetrated by “keep Christ in Christmas” fundies than by “war on Christmas” secularists.

Santa, after all, is perfectly compatible with “X-mas”, “Happy holidays” and all the rest of the non-baby-in-manger parts of the season.

 
 

nary a word about any other crucifixions manifesting this “worldwide phenomenon.”

It’s an vast ongoing worldwide phenomenon that happened once in a single location, in which Santa Claus is crucified by not crucifying a dummy that doesn’t look like Santa Claus. Since Father Christmas derives from the Norse god Odin, this can only be viewed as a flagrant attack on Christianity. The incident has deeply shocked and angered hundreds of millions of people who have never heard of it and who wouldn’t give a shit if they had.

 
 

There’s a story about a Japanese department store putting up a display with a crucified Santa Claus (which I seriously doubt ever actually happened, I’m more often surprised by Japanese familiarity with western culture than the reverse).

 
 

I’d prefer that Santa be sewn in a bag with various venomous and carnivorous animals and the bag thrown in the Tiber, but I’ll settle for crucifixion.

 
 

Oh, FFS – from the “spate of crucifixions” article:

Newly elected Loudoun Supervisor Ken Reid – who as a Town Council member helped craft the compromise allowing a wide variety of religious and secular symbols to be displayed on the courthouse lawn during December instead of banning them altogether – zeroed in on the true intent behind “Crucified Santa.”

“This was clearly designed to provoke angst and offend people,” Reid told The Washington Examiner.

“Just the way Christians have rallied against anti-Semitism and support Israel, I, as a Jew, will return the favor and help lead the fight to stop this mockery of Christmas and Christian beliefs,” he said.

So evidently it’s the Santa skeletons that are going to be loaded into cattle cars and shipped off to the camps if we don’t stop this, or something.

Bonus Fay Voshell FAIL: the display has been taken down already. I guess we’re going to have to destroy Christianity some other way. *pout*

 
 

“Just the way Christians have rallied against anti-Semitism and support Israel, I, as a Jew, will return the favor and help lead the fight to stop this mockery of Christmas and Christian beliefs,” he said.

So he’ll terrorize and discriminate against Christians for a millennium or two then, after a mass extermination, give those that remain somebody else’s country surrounded by people who despise them?

Anyhoo, the “artist” should have claimed it was to remind people of Christ’s death on the cross and to protest the misdirection of modern Christianity as shown by the emphasis on the relatively unimportant holiday of Christmas and the figure of Santa Claus. You can always bluff these folks by doubling down on Jesus.

 
 

I just want to say that, while I am really happy to see you posting so much, I really miss the photo of Jonah Goldberg as a toilet.

 
 

“This was clearly designed to provoke angst and offend people,” Reid told The Washington Examiner.

Furthermore, said Ken Reid, real art is intended to mollify people and put them in the mood to spend money.

Just like Jesus said.
~

 
 

VS just guaranteed herself a large humorously-shaped lump of coal from naughty Santa.

 
 

I saw mommy crucifying Santa Claus…

 
 

I’m sure Mr. Reid thinks “art” is what you buy at the flea market or out of a VW Microbus parked in an empty lot.

 
 

VS just guaranteed herself a large humorously-shaped lump of coal from naughty Santa.

I hope it’s coal.

 
 

OT: I heard Romney challenged one of the other candidates to make a $10,000 bet, just like any average Joe in a bar.

 
 

Pere Ubu said,
December 11, 2011 at 18:03

I’m sure Mr. Reid thinks “art” is what you buy at the flea market or out of a VW Microbus parked in an empty lot.

Actually you can find cool stuff at places like that.

I’m thinking Mr. Reid might patronize Thomas Kincaide galleries.

 
 

I hope it’s coal.

Well it’s hard and black.

 
 

S.–I know! It’s too delish!

 
Liberal and Proud
 

Sorry for the ott-topic post, but I find this very disconcerting:

First Lady Secret Affair?

Hoping it’s just a rumour, but who knows.

 
 

“Just the way Christians have rallied against anti-Semitism and support Israel, I, as a Jew, will return the favor and help lead the fight to stop this mockery of Christmas and Christian beliefs,” he said.

That’s pretty heroic rhetoric for somebody dealing with a dummy in a Santa suit.

This calls for a remake of ‘300’, with Reid tossing atheistic Santa mockers into a bottomless pit and shouting “This is LEESBURG!”

 
 

You have to see the Romney clip to see how casually he says 10,000 like one of us would say five bucks. No wonder people don’t like him, the smug patrician oozes from every pore.

clip: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/snappytv?s=17576

 
address my envelope, lips!
 

vs took the words right out of my mouth – this bozo thinks art is what you get at Kincaide[TM foreverandevermore] galleries.

At least the crap art you find at the thrift and flea markets is on black velvet, so you know what you’re dealing with; the crap TK puts out is sold for $$$.

And I thought skeleton Santa was funneh, but I like Xmas for the pressies. I like Easter for the chocolate eggs, and I like St. Swithin’s day for the look of total incomprehension on people’s faces when I say what day it is.

I think Christianity is so bloated and so overindulged in this country that they have to make up shit just to stay in the news. Next, Jesus will marry a Kardashian to protect the sanctity of marriage, or something.

 
 

So Jesus is a butt man?

 
 

VS just guaranteed herself a large humorously-shaped lump of coal from naughty Santa.

I think she was hoping for an erotically shaped one.

 
 

That reminds me, I haven’t sent my annual “Happy Holidays” card to Bill O’Reilly yet.

 
 

I used to be a rabid secularist, but then I got my shots.

 
 

Yo, Platpus. How you doing? You may remember me from such usernames as Riddley.

 
 

Santa has fuck-all to do with Christianity, Mr. Reid. Does he know that? Crucifixion is overwhelming a criminal punishment used by the Roman Empire.
So really what this is, is, an attack on the adult diaper industry.

 
address my envelope, lips!
 

That reminds me, I haven’t sent my annual “Happy Holidays” card to Bill O’Reilly yet.

You should include a loofah – you know, in case he gets hungry.

 
 

Another Kiwi raises an interesting point. Is it possible that the adult diaper manufacturers are owned by the same media outlets and personalities that keep wingnuts whipped up into a frothy mixture 24/7? Much like I used to speculate that the makers of Mycellex and other yeast medications owned the pantyhose manufacturers?

 
 

The real scandal is the epidemic of scarecrow crucifixions in thousands of cornfields.

 
 

Follow the money stream, Jennifer. Or perhaps the foul smelling stream.

 
 

Rudolph’s head mounted over the door of a whorehouse with his nose serving as the red light?

This is an OUTRAGEOUS TRAVESTY of the fine old Roman tradition of labelling the establishments with wolf imagery.
I am SHOCKED.

Also I call upon tigris to share her collection of on-line Advent calendars with the whole class.

 
 

So who’s going to be the one to point out to Fay the pagan phallic symbolism of the cross in the first place?

 
 

One funny prank in Leeburg is a “worldwide phenomenon?”

 
 

So who’s going to be the one to point out to Fay the pagan phallic symbolism of the cross in the first place?

Me me me!

 
 

Aw, jeez – this concatenation of Christmas and zombies is making me want to read The Stupidest Angel.

A heartwarming Yuletide tale of the flesh-devouring undead.

 
 

One wonders what would have been the outcry if during Ramadan, a bloody and defaced Muslim crescent had been displayed on the courthouse property?

All of the fine people at The American Thinker would have column after outraged column in defence of Islam the artist.

 
 

One funny prank in Leeburg is a “worldwide phenomenon?”

They live in a very small and restricted world. Indeed, the staff rarely let them out of the maximum security ward.

 
 

Luckily the SMcG “me me me” lonk did not work because I clicked on it, damn my eyes.

 
 

It’s nuffin too bad. Buncha dildos. And, hey, we look at dildos every day when we come here, no?

 
 

A heartwarming Yuletide tale of the flesh-devouring undead.

I’m waiting for – It’s a zombie Christmas Charlie Brown!

 
 

re: post title.

Ho ho ho!

 
 

WHY DOES FAY VOSHELL HAET U-S-AMERIKA’S PROUD PURITAN PIONEER HERITAGE?????

PS: A transcontinental wassailing renaissance – cool shit, or coolest shit EVER?

 
 

address my envelope, lips! said, … I think Christianity is so bloated and so overindulged in this country that they have to make up shit just to stay in the news. Next, Jesus will marry a Kardashian to protect the sanctity of marriage, or something.

Can I be the maid of honor?

Also, am I the only person here who instantly thought of The Nightmare Before Christmas?

 
 

Look at these dancing dildos. And no, it’s not a clip of the GOP candidates competing on Dancing with the Pseudo-Celebrities; this is from the really terrible The First Nudie Musical, featured on the late-70s Movie Channel.

Hear that guys? BOOBIES.

One other note of nostalgia – the women all have pubic hair and real breasts.

 
 

Bonus LOL = seeing the strenuous forelock-tugging ritual in the comments on behalf of ***T*e*h***B*e*b*e***I*e*s*u*s*** what with the mewling wee bugger suddenly being brought to dire straits by … by just what exactly? Sesame Street? Trans-fatty acids? HALO 4? Tina Fey?

It gets even lulzier to note that Optimus-Dead-Hippy-Prime, as portayed in the Bibble as a leader of men, was both brutally anti-materialistic (boy, blowing an assload of wampum on oil for a sexy young wench to anoint your feet with when all your best buds are starving … either dude was crushed out past the moon on Le Hussy Magdalen, jumping at a prime opportunity to be one cold harsh douche – or that’s a serious troll against mortal physicality & every single thing in it) & socialist enough to make Che Guevara pop a zombie-chubby right out the side of his urn or box or what have you.

 
 

The most recent location of the worldwide phenomenon which is characterized by a ritualistic crucifixion of good St. Nicholas

Ritualistic crucifixion is so much worse than the plain old execution method crucifixion.

 
 

Look at these dancing dildos.

For some reason, I was expecting a link to Indian safe sex PDA. (Though really, those are dancing condoms.)

 
 

As Snorghagen mentioned, Santa Claus was partially based on the Norse god Óðinn.

This is clearly a representation of the time Óðinn impaled himself on the World Tree, Yggdrasil, with his spear, Gungnir, to learn the secrets of the runes.

 
 

No discussion of Jolly Old Saint Nicholas is complete without this:

 
 

I’m thinking Mr. Reid might patronize Thomas Kincaide galleries.

I think there’s a court order preventing him from approaching closer than 1000 feet.

One wonders what would have been the outcry if during Ramadan, a bloody and defaced Muslim crescent had been displayed on the courthouse property?

It would have been dwarfed by the outcry from the knuckle-draggers about a Muslim crescent being displayed in the first place.

 
 

As Snorghagen mentioned, Santa Claus was partially based on the Norse god Óðinn.

And partially based on the fly agaric mushroom.

 
 

…(Though really, those are dancing condoms.)

Now I know where they got the idea for the Teletubbies.

 
Heavenly homes of Heaven
 

Congratulations Fay, that just earned you 1000 frequent victim points.

Enough for a white picket fence in Heaven.

 
 

the women all have pubic hair and real breasts.

It’s like seeing a unicorn.

 
 

SANTA CLAUS ISREAL!

(Someone had to say it. As far as I was concerned.)

 
 

BTW, not to make this the trim or not to trim the tree thread or anything but…are we not allowed to have hair down there anymore or what? ‘Cuz it kinda serves a purpose.

 
 

It’s just part of the pornification of the culture, vs.

 
 

BTW, not to make this the trim or not to trim the tree thread or anything but…are we not allowed to have hair down there anymore or what? ‘Cuz it kinda serves a purpose.

It’s a generational thing. The current 20s all learned about sex from pr0n because their boomer parents couldn’t be bothered. So they have no idea what real bodies (M or F) look like.

 
 

DAMN YOU JENNIFER!

 
 

‘Cuz it kinda serves a purpose.

Habitat, as per the Snookie wildlife comment the other day.

 
 

To quote David Steinberg, “The genitalia went grazing in the woods.”

 
 

Yeah, well, I’m glad I’m not in my 20’s, cuz I’m not gonna try to look like a porn actress. Meh.

 
 

I tried looking like a porn actress, but the damn “wax application technician” applied the hot wax to the wrong end of my anatomy.

 
 

Hey…speaking of Jesus…and NOT pubic hair…looks like Jesus Boy just won another game.

 
 

I tried looking like a porn actress, but the damn “wax application technician” applied the hot wax to the wrong end of my anatomy.

If you were to glue a maraschino cherry to the top of your head, you could be half a porn star.

 
 

Bees would attack him. He would go all swollen and red and… I see

 
 

If you were to glue a maraschino cherry to the top of your head, you could be half a porn star.

You calling me a boob?

Bees would attack him. He would go all swollen and red and… I see

Forget the beard of bees, I want a bee ‘do.

 
 

Big Bad Beehived Bastard?

 
 

Typically, I leave the bouffant hairdos to that guy in L.A.

 
 

This came up when I ran a Google search for “beehive” but it looks more like a Dalek to me.

 
 

Spearhafoc, you have a one-track mind… many thanks for keeping us all on the most important topic of all, that being exquisite redheads.

 
 

Mitt has hired Ann Coulter to bolster his Con-Cred. Could Newt really be the nominee?

Hey, a boy can dream, can’t he?

What topic?

 
 

It’s a car wreck and I can’t look away!!!

 
 

Can’t make hair pie without hair…

 
 

Why is Spearhafoc posting a picture of NZ’s parliament on the intertubes. It is almost as if he wants the terroirists to know where it is!?!?!?

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Mitt has hired Ann Coulter to bolster his Con-Cred. Could Newt really be the nominee?

Hey, a boy can dream, can’t he?

What topic?

Like I said in the last thread, for his dad, it was the “brainwashed” comment, for Willard it was the $10,000 bet. It’s all over for Mitt. Barring some unforeseen apocalypse, Newton Leroy is it.

OR, if the party Apparatchiks decide Mittens is the “safe” nominee and manage to force him through anyway, the election itself is going to be interesting. Is the “base” going to stay home? Are they going to throw up some Monster from the Id™ as a third-party candidate? It would certainly make it obvious that the GOP doesn’t give a shit about them.

My guess is they’d stay home, say Obama’s reelection is illegitimate, and start pursuing those Second Amendment Solutions of theirs. Of course, they’ll probably do that even when Newt loses.

I will say this: if the GOP nominates a supposedly “not-crazy” candidate like the Mittster and lose, they’re going to open up every laughing academy in the country to find the 2016 nominee.

Now the parties used to have some pretty raucous conventions and go on to win, but the conventional wisdom now is that if your candidate doesn’t go over on the first ballot, you might as well give up. It’ll be interesting to see what happens this time at the quadrennial GOP slimefest.

Yes, Sparrowhawk has a one-track mind. I, on the other hand, have at least a five track mind.

 
 

BTW, not to make this the trim or not to trim the tree thread or anything but…are we not allowed to have hair down there anymore or what? ‘Cuz it kinda serves a purpose.

It’s a generational thing. The current 20s all learned about sex from pr0n because their boomer parents couldn’t be bothered. So they have no idea what real bodies (M or F) look like.

My parents were way too young to be baby boomers and they were also incredibly frank incredibly early about sex, but I still (a) learned everything mechanically from horrible pre-9/11 FAQs and (b) picked up my sexual search image from amateur porno, which you may not have noticed went through something of a renaissance in the last ten years.

So, let’s leave aside that learning sex from swapped VHS tapes actually puts you well on your way to 40 and not in your 20s (and that those of us in our 20s were exposed to way more eclectic and weird stuff by stealing pornography via Kazaa etc.) – have you seen how bunched-up and spiteful the Boomers are about pleasure? If you were raised by Debbie Does Dallas instead of people who think Rabbit Redux is a work of High Art, count your blessings.

Finally and also, modern pro-porno favors weird, fussy pubic configurations for ladies and a bald eagle for men alone. The trend of the bald lady area is actually on the wane now we are no longer prosperous or happy enough for our zeitgeist to include stuff like Baywatch or beach vacations.

 
 

I will say this: if the GOP nominates a supposedly “not-crazy” candidate like the Mittster and lose, they’re going to open up every laughing academy in the country to find the 2016 nominee.

Naw, they’ll do this even if Newt wins, because he is a RINO and a moron and all that stuff about him being able to humiliate Obama in a series of high-school debates was a liberal media lie that no true conservative could really believe, etc.

The momentum for Gingrich is because he’s a stupid person’s idea of a smart man and the baggers think of the President as that awful arrogant black man instead of the President, so they just sort of assume that if he is pinned down by a smartey man he and his scientifically proven 15 fewer points of IQ will wither away in the face of Gingrich, who according to the liberal newspaper Washington Post’s liberal correspondent Anne “Let’s Spraypaint Katyn On Holocaust Memorials” Applebaum, sounds like a law professor instead of a mere politician.

To his credit, he’s not taking it that seriously – he’s stolen a lot of money for himself and his close, politically feckless allies from the sort of people who let GOP frontrunners run a tab, and he’s used his fame mostly to get the media to repeat lines about him – that he’s an intellectual, a skilled debater, a historian, the inevitable winner of a proper Lincoln-Douglas debate – that make him feel warm and fuzzy.

He gets to write the GOP’s talking points so they’re all about what a wonderful man he is and he gets to steal millions of dollars to stuff into his bros’ pockets. He’s got it made. Who cares if he melts down after the first debate?

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Jeeminy Priest! Gingrich has pulled ahead of Romney everywhere—no surprise there—but Obama is leading both of them in fucking South Carolina!

 
 

Mitt has hired Ann Coulter to bolster his Con-Cred.

Holy crap, that’s a move that could seriously backfire.

The trend of the bald lady area is actually on the wane now we are no longer prosperous or happy enough for our zeitgeist to include stuff like Baywatch or beach vacations.

Damn, I’m heavily invested in wax futures!

The momentum for Gingrich is because he’s a stupid person’s idea of a smart man

Newt is the anti-Gurloes: Gurloes Newt was one of the most complex simple men I have known, because he was a complex simple man trying to be simple complex. Not a simple complex, but a complex simple man’s idea of simplicity complexity.

 
 

I thought ladies actually liked being bald below because of that monthly lady thing. That’s what your mom said anyways.

 
 

Gingrich is the closest, the brethren are sure, they have ever come to those dreams they’re having in which Superman – but white, and a hero – crashes into one of Obama’s snooty elitist speeches and humiliates him in front of everybody, and they get to join in, and then he sweeps them up in their arms and they wake up all sticky.

 
 

What are the liberals doing to Christmas this year?

If I’m not mistaken, Eric Cartman has summed this up already:

 
 

Damn, I’m heavily invested in wax futures!

Oh, young Icarus, you should have listened when the old hands in the market warned you – wax on, wax off.

 
 

Now I REALLY want to do that bit of guerrilla art, in which the outlines of a slain Santa and a few reindeer are drawn in tape (a la crime scene) amid brilliant splashes of (fake) blood so that poor parents can tell their kids that Santa was killed in a drive-by so there will be no Christmas presents this year.

Since I simply cannot afford to be arrested and risk my position as an advocate for the disabled, I must resort to inviting others to do this. What could be better than crucifying Santa?

Riddling his body with bullets and killing his fucking reindeer while you’re at it.

 
 

Barring some unforeseen apocalypse, Newton Leroy is it.

That this is even a possibility is fucking amazing. Even when you’ve known for years that the Republicans are stump-humping insane, they can still out-crazy your expectations.

 
 

Barring some unforeseen apocalypse, Newton Leroy is it.

That this is even a possibility is fucking amazing. Even when you’ve known for years that the Republicans are stump-humping insane, they can still out-crazy your expectations.

See, they go tired of hearing about how dumb W and Palin are, so they’re going with a smarty this time.

 
 

OT, but why not…I was reading a description of Victorian NYC earlier today and there was a reference to the “lower million” and the “upper ten thousand.” Hmmm…99% and 1%.

 
 

See, they go tired of hearing about how dumb W and Palin are, so they’re going with a smarty this time.

I’m not dumb! I’m smart! I’m smart and I want respect!

 
 

I used to speculate that the makers of Mycellex and other yeast medications owned the pantyhose manufacturers…

Gasp! You, too! And how about those antibiotics? Have you ever, even once, been warned by a male doctor or dentist that the odds that you won’t have a yeast infection before you finish the regimen are so minute that you might as well buy some Mycellex when you pick up your prescription?

 
 

“Lupanar” (Latin also lupanarium) — a “den of she-wolves?” Sounds like a coffee-klatch to me.

 
 

http://images.google.com/imgres?q=crucifix+dildo&hl=en&biw=1024&bih=581&tbm=isch&tbnid=mKb4mCpgP_J0rM:&imgrefurl=http://www.rationalskepticism.org/news-politics/crucifix-with-a-penis-art-exhibit-riles-catholics-t24442.html&docid=JfJJ8435_u4eFM&imgurl=http://doctore0.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/dickofjeebus.jpg&w=360&h=500&ei=o3rlTqKeHovSiAKlrJSIDg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=248&sig=104943542839562725173&page=2&tbnh=102&tbnw=77&start=19&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:21,s:19&tx=41&ty=14

That’s a mess. I found it in the link Substance gave, so it’s his fault.

I love the depictions where Jesus looks really comfortable on the cross. If that had been realistic, I bet it would have really pissed the Roman guards off. So they pierced his side with spears, and he said, “YES!! YES!!! Pierce me baby! Pierce me!!” Then they poured vinegar in his wounds, and he said, “More vinegar! Oooh! Ahhh! Yeah! More vinegar. More vinegar. Don’t stop!! Why did you stop?! That felt GREAT! Hit me! More!!”

Whether or not that would have resulted in the conversions of more or less Romans at the crucifixion is open to interpretation. It might have been too over the top for event the most decadent of that ilk.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Sorry folks. The words “South Carolina” in my last were supposed to link to this. Maybe two nested layers of tags is the limit?

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

So they pierced his side with spears, and he said, “YES!! YES!!! Pierce me baby! Pierce me!!” Then they poured vinegar in his wounds, and he said, “More vinegar! Oooh! Ahhh! Yeah! More vinegar. More vinegar. Don’t stop!! Why did you stop?! That felt GREAT! Hit me! More!!”

On the completely unjustified assumptions that the event in question happened at all, and that it happened as described:

They pierced his side with spears because they didn’t want to be there in the first place, didn’t want to spend three days (as often happened) supervising the death of some gomer they had nothing against in the first place, and wanted to get the whole thing done with before dinnertime.

The legionary held up some vinegar on a sponge as an act of kindness. Vinegar was the standard Legionary drink on march—water would get scummy, wine would turn into vinegar anyway.*

The standard christers’ interpretations of the wholly babble reveal the most appalling ignorance about the ancient world—the time when the events supposedly happened!

*Yes, you and I would prefer beer, but the Romans just weren’t beer drinkers.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Sorry, Wiley, I was just rereading that, and it read like I was criticizing you for ignorance. I’m talking about the biblethumpers I’ve heard discussing this event (the easiest crucifixion on record) as if it was the most horrific, tortuous death in history.)

 
 

I love the depictions where Jesus looks really comfortable on the cross.

The Romans used foam rubber nails.

 
 

I’m looking at the other side of this & I have to admit … there IS a certain sweetness to picturing Jeebus divebombing kiddies with smartphones & hoodies from aboard his magic carpet pulled by eight tiny donkeys like a midnight Semitic Love-Stuka.

Just sayin’.

Hmmm … yeah … pubes & Newt Gingrich … it just seems to fit.

Gingrich has pulled ahead of Romney everywhere—no surprise there—but Obama is leading both of them in fucking South Carolina!

Barbarism: not quite as sexy IRL as it is in movies like Mad Max or Escape From New York.

Some might argue that if one’s audience applauds & the viewer then expects a panning shot of them to reveal Nazi helmets with Viking horns, chicken-bones through pierced septums &/or a sea of smileyface/crucifix/dollarsign armbands, U HAZ A PORBLEM.

I too would dearly love to see a Barack versus Newt throwdown, just for somewhat different reasons. Watching Newton’s oleaginous tarted-up mug fall when either “I give awards to alternative-energy startups, you give awards to strip-bars” or his abysmal Congressional record as an incompetent & venal emo asshole comes up would be a beautiful thing.

The real upset of 2010 wasn’t Obama being subjected to “a shellacking” – it was a GOP so inept that they couldn’t take over the Senate even with record high unemployment, an epidemic of home foreclosures & public generic butthurt levels through the stratosphere.

It is interesting to me that wingnuts don’t use Obama’s scary middle name at every possible opportunity, opting instead for devastating snark like Obummer & Odumbo that would (were I an oldschool Reaganite Gooper) drive me into the warm embrace of the DNC like the sad schoolyard-taunt stinkbomb of fail that it is.

 
 

The legionary held up some vinegar on a sponge as an act of kindness. Vinegar was the standard Legionary drink on march—water would get scummy, wine would turn into vinegar anyway.*

I remember reading somewhere that it probably would have been spiked with poppy juice- it would have been, in effect, laudanum.

*Yes, you and I would prefer beer, but the Romans just weren’t beer drinkers.

I also remember reading an account of the use of ale by Belgian monks to sustain themselves during days of fasting. Some of the monks would get a little tipsy, so they sent a delegation to the pope, to have him determine if the consumption of ale was acceptable. The pope, being an Italian, and a wine drinker, took one sample of the ale and declared that drinking the bitter stuff was enough of a penance in and of itself, and therefore, the lives of beer drinkers have been much enriched.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Jim:

Yeah, I think the swing in 2010, bad as it was, gave them more confidence than it should have. It was just a standard off-year reversal—look at ’94. It was much worse, and Clinton went on to be decisively reelected, against an opponent that was generally (unjustifiably) respected, and left office with polls showing he could have easily won a third term if he could have run for one.

It’s much more telling that they couldn’t shove through most of their most odious referenda just now in an off-off-year when they should have been able to swamp the usual low turnout. I don’t know, I smell something resembling hope—it’s a faint scent, probably deceptive, but who knows?

 
 

The current 20s all learned about sex from pr0n because their boomer parents couldn’t be bothered.

Oh really? Are you sure about this? Are you sure that the largest generational population alive in the U.S. couldn’t be bothered? I don’t want to pick a fight here, but I’m gonna start fighting back against this “baby boomers are the root of all evil and everything young ADULTS do now is their parents’ fault: horseshit, as if subsequent generations were not influenced by the same commercial interests that affected the tastes of Baby Boomers AND previous generations.

At OSU, I heard a conversation between two young men about waxing their chest hair. They clearly felt dirty about having chest hair. I told them that the bare chest was a fashion thing, and when I was a young (boomer) child (who was not allowed to drop acid or go to Woodstock) thick forests of chest-hair was considered sexy by most women, and a bare chest was widely considered to be “boyish”. I assured him that there were probably young women his age that found chest hair attractive, even if they don’t know it yet, and that if he waited a few years, he might find that his chest hair was in and very popular all of a sudden.

Oddly enough, my step-mother, who had a copy of the “Hite Report” and lent it to me with her highest recommendation was also a dreaded, do-nothing Boomer who raised three successful children of “her own” and had a profoundly positive influence on me, in spite of the disability we supposedly share. My other step-mother— also a boomer—treats all my father’s children with respect and affection and avails herself for them AND gets along famously with my FIRST stepmother.

IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK THAT ON AT LEAST ONE FRIENDLY WEBSITE I CAN HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF NOT HEARING WHAT A USELESS AND DESTRUCTIVE GENERATION I AM A PART OF AND NOT SEE THAT DRIVEL TOSSED OUT CASUALLY AS IF IT WERE NOT A PILE OF HORSESHIT BROUGHT TO US BY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DESTROY SOCIAL SECURITY?

Is that asking too much? Not being disrespected and casually insulted because of the year I was born? Is it too much to ask? Have I not earned enough respect to ask for that?

 
 

*Yes, you and I would prefer beer, but the Romans just weren’t beer drinkers.

Who’s you and I, white man?

“Lupanar” (Latin also lupanarium) — a “den of she-wolves?” Sounds like a coffee-klatch to me.

The Romans had a sexuality revolving around who was on top, and they viewed paying for sex with a woman as bottomy, so had prostitutes wear male clothing and viewed them as predatory – lupa, or she-wolf, which adds a hilarious and only half-unintentional layer to the Romulus/Remus origin story.

“Lupanar” was the usual Roman abbreviation (the ium, ius, and suchlike were usually taken as read to conserve space, and one could do this because a relatively broad section of Roman society was literate) for a brothel, literally a den of she-wolves. It’d be coated in graffito by dudes and ladies and dudes pretending to be ladies, about hookerings felt to be worthy of the ages.

Rome was weird.

 
 

Is that asking too much? Not being disrespected and casually insulted because of the year I was born? Is it too much to ask? Have I not earned enough respect to ask for that?

Have a little empathy. Your generation kind of sucked the marrow from America’s bones and left us to clean up the greasy afters, and I would argue it’s from a basic level of respect for the uncommonly decent minority that we try to avoid talk of putting the lot of you in camps.

Call us back when we use our first crack at the polls to reelect a Nixon and our first representative President is Bush is all I’m saying.

 
 

See also: Prop 13, morning in America, the Me decade, Clinton/Gore ’92, Giuliani time, AMERICA UNDER ATTACK, what I’m saying is your age cohort has been at the driver’s seat since around 1970 and that has corresponded almost exactly with an economic and cultural rot which we are being asked to clean up via a spiteful, bipartisan obsession with austerity and bootstrappery.

Also, in the wider culture the totemic role of the baby boom is sacrosanct and the only thing it’s socially acceptable to harass you guys for is having the gall to once have cared whether black people lived or died so for Christ’s sake.

 
 

Wiley, I see a lot of stuff on da Intertoobz blaming da boomers for just about everything wrong with modern times.

Meh. When I bother to reply I usually point out that blame could more accurately be placed on the Gen X and Y types who basically let 30 years go by without even a HINT of social protest or activism. It’s good, in a way, that greed finally got so out of control as to get a few people to turn off the fucking teevee. Occupy America!!

 
 

Yeah, I think the swing in 2010, bad as it was, gave them more confidence than it should have

Luckily, the Tea Party blew some Senate races for them- their purity-troll insistence on numbskulls like Christine O’Donnell and Sharron Angle worked against the GOP.

 
 

alec said,
December 12, 2011 at 6:33

I’d respond, but I’m too busy enjoying my bunched-up and spiteful boomer pleasures.

 
 

Re: the whole waxing thing, back when I first mentioned having seen the guy driving the obnoxious Hummer in Atlanta with the ad-wrap for Waxing Atlanta, and noted that the message it gave was “I’m so macho that not only am I driving a Hummer, but I can also rip every hair out of your snatch!”, someone on the tubes replied that, after use, they melt down the wax, strain out the hair, and recycle it.

All I could think of for a reply was “recycle it for WHAT? Are they knitting sweaters out of it? Wouldn’t they be scratchy?”

(Yes, I know, they meant the wax. And legally, they can’t re-use it, anyway. But my version is a lot funnier.)

 
 

So they pierced his side with spears

You can never have too many orifices.

 
 

Oh Christ, this is not going to end well…

 
 

Well, I’m supposedly a member of the boomer generation, though I’ve never accepted that. I think there’s a huge gulf between the group born from ’46 – ’59 and those of us who came after. We were too young to have participated in any of the hippy stuff or other cultural upheavals; and sorry if it offends other boomers, but yes, a good bit of the shit gets laid at that doorstep. I vividly recall how enough of our older boomer brethren turned out and voted Reagan so that when I started college in ’81, aid had been slashed. Does that make all boomers greedy awful people? No. But for all the “we marched for civil rights/ended an unjust war” there’s the opposite side of the coin – which is, “then when we got a few years older, we decided that being able to afford a pasta machine was more important than making sure our younger siblings could afford to go to college.”

I’ve looked at the age groups and how they voted in ’76, ’80, and ’84…and the 18 – 30 age group consistently was voting more conservatively than their parents. So, yeah, this shit does deservedly get laid at their feet.

 
 

the Me decade

I was there (albeit quite smaller) … when the media sold feminism as gender warfare while hard drugs, state-sponsored sabotage, commodification & infighting neutered the most awesome social movement in more than a generation virtually overnight.

The 70s may wind up looming larger than WW1.

 
 

My bad – I shouldn’t have said “consistently voted more conservative than their parents;” instead I should have noted that Reagan got a bigger margin of victory amongst boomers than any other age group.

 
 

Well, I’m supposedly a member of the boomer generation, though I’ve never accepted that. I think there’s a huge gulf between the group born from ’46 – ’59 and those of us who came after. We were too young to have participated in any of the hippy stuff or other cultural upheavals; and sorry if it offends other boomers, but yes, a good bit of the shit gets laid at that doorstep. I vividly recall how enough of our older boomer brethren turned out and voted Reagan so that when I started college in ’81, aid had been slashed. Does that make all boomers greedy awful people? No. But for all the “we marched for civil rights/ended an unjust war” there’s the opposite side of the coin – which is, “then when we got a few years older, we decided that being able to afford a pasta machine was more important than making sure our younger siblings could afford to go to college.”

Exact so. My parents were both born just after the boomer cohort stopped and had to come of age in the new, more predatory and self-obsessed American culture. And being as how we’re from out West – where the whole ‘30% marginal tax = slavery’ meme machine got built – I’m pretty close to the bottom limit of second generation fucked over by those guys.

And we don’t, by and large, have mortgages and minivans and little pasta machines of our own to worry about. How we wind up using that free energy is basically in your court – and not to put too fine a point on it, but have you tried ciphering out around how old the audience for these fucking debates looks? You know, the ones cheering every time they’re reminded of the world grinding the helpless bones of those who have commited the crime of having a future left?

Because it ain’t us, and it ain’t Jennifer or my folks either.

 
 

Saint Nick on a stick!

And screw you young people. You’d still be listening to Perry Como if it weren’t for us!!

 
 

Well, I’m supposedly a member of the boomer generation, though I’ve never accepted that. I think there’s a huge gulf between the group born from ’46 – ’59 and those of us who came after.

Same here. I was 1 when JFK was killed and 7 when Woodstock happened. Even though I’m technically a “boomer” I never felt like I was one culturally.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Being a Baby Boomer myself, maybe I’m just making excuses, but it seems to me this term is too broad to be of any use—and it keeps getting broadened. I couldn’t believe it the first time I saw somebody using it for 1946 to 1960, and since then I’ve even seen it stretched to 1964! A “Baby Boomer who turned 3 during the Summer of Love™? Sure, dude, sure—have you checked your meds lately?

I think the assholes Alec talks about are overrepresented in the very first cohort—’46, ’47, ’48—and the later batches are just like anybody else. Even though I was born during the Truman Administration (just barely), I really feel closer to the later group than the Romney/Gingrich cohort. Which makes it seem I was right when I always thought I was at the end of the baby Boom Generation instead of close to the beginning, the way people use the term now.

Sorry for rambling, but it’s Sunday night and I’m bored.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Hey, the minutes in the Sadly, No Time Zone are suddenly correct! Just 10 hours ahead.

 
 

Yeah sure, the audiences for the GOP debates speak for everybody over the age of fifty, amirite?

And I know for a FACT that everyone under 30 is a fixie-riding hipster doofus with a stupid moustache.

And don’t get me STARTED on those lazy coons.

 
 

See also: (a bunch of crap boomers supposedly did)

Got news for ya honey. Boomers have really only been “in charge” since the ’90s. Before that was the Greatest Generation, followed by the Korean War generation.

We boomers were all wound up about how awful they were, too.

Every generation gets to experience that incredible moment when they realize their parents tewtally fucked it up. Huzzah!

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

Yeah, WC, but at least our generation invented sex! We’ll always have that going for us.

 
 

Being a Baby Boomer myself, maybe I’m just making excuses, but it seems to me this term is too broad to be of any use

Right on, daddy-o.

I find most of the generational stuff to be meaningless. Lumping people together by what year they were born and claiming that all of them or most of them behave in the same way strikes me as only slightly less absurd than claiming that individuals’ personalities are shaped by the last three digits of their social security numbers. I have a lot more in common with people in other age groups who share my general outlook than I do with people in my same age group who are wingnuts or deeply religious. What generation you’re in is of very little importance to me and I’m pretty sure it’s of very little importance to most people.

I’ve got no use for the more extreme forms of boomer-bashing. It consists of collections of stereotypes that have little or no relation to what I’ve actually experienced in the six decades that I’ve been stumbling around on the earth. Some bashers are amazingly passionate and obsessive for reasons I don’t understand and probably don’t want to understand. So long as their rage stays online and doesn’t intrude in my real life I prefer to regard it as just another odd intertubz phenomenon.

Again, most people don’t care about this shit, and rightly so.

 
 

And Jennifer, “more extreme forms of boomer-bashing” does not refer to you.

 
 

Okay, on the generational thing.

It’s mostly the conservatives of any era that ruined it for everyone. Even in whatever category you throw the 20 somethings of the 80s in, the era that gave us Yuppies and bizarre adulation for Ronald Reagan of all people, there were good crazed liberal do-gooders ranting to high-heaven trying to get everyone out of their coke-filled hazes and actually address the rampant inequality, criminal neglect of the upper classes, and of course the treatment of homosexuals, women, and etcetera.

And even in the pot-fueled days of the 70s when every manner of liberal protest was really swinging into the “long-belated” victories section, there were any number of young people bitching that those “uppity feminists and n***ers were going too far and needed to be taught a lesson” or committing the unpardonable sin of making disco an inescapable thing.

In short, there are shitty people in every decade making things shittier for everyone else, and when they do the most damage is when the conservatives get the most power. When “nominally liberal” people and moderates find themselves getting scared over the long correction of grave injustices and solutions that will in the fullness of time turn out to be the correct ones and run screaming into the embrace of fear and reactionary rhetoric.

And if we can stop that cycle, both in ourselves and in culture in general, we can do so much more to stop those terrible eras like the 80s than we can by blaming often misplaced generations (they don’t quite overlap with the generations that ended up being more liberal on average from a young age or more conservative on average from a young age) for being solely responsible.

From my generation’s standpoint, you all fucked up, so let’s all just come together and blame the real assholes in every generation that have helped make America the rancid hellhole it is today.

 
 

Even in whatever category you throw the 20 somethings of the 80s in, the era that gave us Yuppies and bizarre adulation for Ronald Reagan of all people

Sadly, I have to admit that I was one of those people. If you’d known me in college I was very right-wing.

I would have joined the College Republicans but they weren’t interested. I guess my background was too lower middle-class and my last name a bit too ethnic sounding. Should have been my first sign right there.

It took a war and a period of unemployment to turn me around.

 
 

You silly people with your ‘birth-cohort’ identity politics. Any fule kno that birth-order is the only factor that matters — whether you’re one of those conservative sense-of-entitlement first-borns, or a chip-on-the-shoulder last-born, or somewhere between.

 
 

Smut-

Or those damn anarchist only childs!

 
 

Definitely a first-born Type A overachiever here.

My parents (born in 1939) were actually pretty liberal. My father left the Army because of Vietnam and both of them hated Nixon with a passion.

 
 

Or those damn anarchist only childs!

That would be me. Tear it all the fuck down!

 
 

Gee, Fay. That doesn’t look like Santa to me.
…The Santa-zombie in the picture isn’t even being crucified. Feet on the ground, arm slung casually over the crossbar . . . yes, it’s a cross but not a crucifixion.

Well duh. What everyone is forgetting is that in Renaissance paintings of the crucifixion scene, whenever the camera angle was wide enough to show the two thieves flanking Christ, the convention was to show them crucified in less dignified manner… usually bound to their crosses with no nails (perhaps they had been rope-makers rather than carpenters), with arms draped over the cross-piece, elbows and knees at ungainly angles.

This example by Baldung Grien comes to mind. I’m sure you all recognise it from the Gemäldegalerie in Berlin. I’m not sure why there is a pole-dancer at the bottom of the central cross.

So obviously the Leesburg skeletal Santa is supposed to depict one of the thieves. I hope this will assuage Fay Voshell’s concerns. If only her university education had included a course on art history, she need never have fashed herself in the first place.
There is probably some iconographic clues to tell whether he is the thief who was saved or the one who was damned, but I can’t be arsed checking the textbooks.

 
 

There’s a story about a Japanese department store putting up a display with a crucified Santa Claus

The fine upstanding people of the McGillicuddy Serious Party were inspired by that story to enter a float in the Hamilton Christmas Parade one year, involving a Santa-on-a-stick. The Chamber of Commerce were not well pleased.

Most years the McGillicuddies were content with organising a “Throw a Sponge at Santa” event, but Santa wasn’t nailed to a cross, and could dodge.

 
 

If only her university education had included a course on art history

I believe Fay Voshell double-majored in Hyperbole and Reactionary Obscurantism. Art history is not a requirement for either degree program.

 
 

…Mitt has hired Ann Coulter…

Yeah, Mitt’s showing he has balls by having Coulter show her balls but I think the right verb is “deployed”. We don’t, for example, “hire” drones to shoot missiles in Pakistan. (Even if we do hire drones. It’s not polite.) I’d guess that Coulter doesn’t give a shit if Romney personally performs a proxy baptism for her, she’s got her eyes on, oh, EPA or NASA head, maybe ambassador to Switzerland.

 
 

That looks like a drunk skeletal Santa trying to support himself on a cross. What is this woman’s problem? Santa drinks. He gets drunk. He falls down. You can’t explain it.

 
 

I tried looking like a porn actress, but the damn “wax application technician” applied the hot wax to the wrong end of my anatomy.

It looks good on you, tho

 
 

Oh yeah…forgot to say…Santa is RIPPED!

 
 

I have the strangest things for breffus. This morning I had my Thai chicken noodle soup.

 
 

Wiley –

I’m (technically) a boomer. I was including myself, my elatives, and my friends,

 
 

My relatives, too.

 
hells littlest angel
 

I’m leaving out spiked milk and cookies this Xmas eve. When Santa comes to, he’ll find himself in a bathtub full of ice with his kidneys missing.

 
 

“N__B said,
December 12, 2011 at 14:03

Wiley –

I’m (technically) a boomer.”

I keep reading this as ” I’m (technically) a boner.”

 
 

I keep reading this as ” I’m (technically) a boner.”

My plan is working! Bwahahahahahaha!

 
 

Boomer here.1947. Folks celebrating the End Of War Forever.
Marcus Aurelius (c180 AD) quote for all you boomer-blamers : The times are bad and this is an ignorant generation.

 
 

The times are bad and this is an ignorant generation.

Ah, but the times, they are a-changing.

(One can hope).

 
 

Ive got a love-hate relationship with Marcus Aurelius’s writings. I like the Meditations, but I keep thinking that’s it’s pretty easy to be a stoic when you’re the emperor of a quarter of the population of the world.

 
 

The times are bad and this is an ignorant generation.

Ah, but the times, they are a-changing.

yea, and we believed that the last time around.

I’ve always thought that politics in America is a pendulum, that it swings a little left, then a little right, ultimately converging on a small swing around the middle.

The conservatives in this country gave it a helluva shove this past go-round.

 
 

Am I too late to joint teh boomer bashing?

Point – I’ll start defending boomers from teh relentless onslaught of unfounded baseless attacks just as soon as I do teh same for straight white males.

 
 

Ive got a love-hate relationship with Marcus Aurelius’s writings.

Pity Commodus didn’t heed them

 
 

Nothing quite sums up the baby boomers as the way they got the drinking age lowered to 18 so they could drink and then raised it back to 21 so their kids couldn’t drink.

 
 

Am I too late to joint teh boomer bashing?

One good thing about technically not being a boomer (the original appelation applied through 1954, altho was later extended by Landon Jones) is I get to make fun of both ends of the spectrum.

 
 

Nothing quite sums up the baby boomers as the way they got the drinking age lowered to 18 so they could drink and then raised it back to 21 so their kids couldn’t drink.

Listen, we…I mean, they…almost got pot legalized. Imagine what we…I mean, they…would have done then?

 
 

What Hilary-Fay doesn’t realize is that it is one’s faith, not one’s dependence in symbols, that is important. The symbols -much like the parables- are a means to relate to those with little imagination* who require more than inspirational words.

Besides, I don’t remember Santa being in the Bible. I mean, there’s “Satan,” but…wait a minute…OHNOESITSATRICKBYDADEVIL!!! Arrrggh!!!!

(* = aka, the truly stupid)

 
 

I’d guess that Coulter doesn’t give a shit if Romney personally performs a proxy baptism for her, she’s got her eyes on, oh, EPA or NASA head, maybe ambassador to Switzerland.

But how will she maintain her legendary journalistic objectivity if she is hired by Mitt, and/or takes a job in his administration? Might some not read that as a conflict of interest?

 
 

Besides, I don’t remember Santa being in the Bible.

Then you weren’t stoned enough

 
 

…Mitt has hired Ann Coulter…

It’s called “self-fulfilling prophecy.” She’s going to help him beat out Gingrich for the nomination, but then say something so disgusting it just turns away a ton of independent voters*, costing Mitt the election

(* = seriously; there are still people who are “independent” from an issue -not a party- standpoint? Does the country have to literally be on fire with Fox News tanks rolling down Main Street before people realize that everything doesn’t have two equally valid points of view?)

 
 

Hey, that’s not a war on Christmas. It’s a war on Hogswatch!

 
 

seriously; there are still people who are “independent” from an issue -not a party- standpoint?

The truly independent vote (e.g. neaderthals who don’t pay attention) is roughly two to five percent of the electorate.

 
 

It’s a war on Hogswatch!

Is that the life guard station for that school of magic? You know, with the Hoff and Pamela Anderson?

 
 

Hey Baby Boomers.

That’s a nice generation you got there. Shame if something happened —

Oh wait you’ve fucked it up yourselves.

 
 

Any fule kno that birth-order is the only factor that matters — whether you’re one of those conservative sense-of-entitlement first-borns, or a chip-on-the-shoulder last-born, or somewhere between.

How bourgeois. Among the knocked-up teenagers working the night shift set, the first-born is more of a test dummy + “free labor for later when we can afford to have children” sort of thing.

So for the older child the trick is to drop the little ones on their heads, lock them in closets, sow a few really deep complexes… you know, prepare them for the real world.

Libertarian, why do you ask?

 
 

The truly independent vote (e.g. neaderthals who don’t pay attention) is roughly two to five percent of the electorate.

Yes, but only because the other neanderthals who don’t pay attention have the sense not to participate. But there is always that little fraction who wander in on polling day like it’s a shampoo sample give-away at the mall, and that is enough to swing many elections.

 
 

Yes, but only because the other neanderthals who don’t pay attention have the sense not to participate. But there is always that little fraction who wander in on polling day like it’s a shampoo sample give-away at the mall, and that is enough to swing many elections.

That’s the inference from what I was saying: the actual neaderthal-who-don’t-care population is more like 52-55% of the electorate, based on voter turnout.

 
 

That’s the inference from what I was saying

YES! I’m going to CRUCIFY the LSAT!!!

 
 

YES! I’m going to CRUCIFY the LSAT!!!

Make sure to poke it in the side with a fountain pen.

 
 

What Hilary-Fay doesn’t realize is that it is one’s faith, not one’s dependence in symbols, that is important. The symbols -much like the parables- are a means to relate to those with little imagination* who require more than inspirational words.

omg…have you been watching ‘pillars of the earth?’

 
 

have you been watching ‘pillars of the earth?’

I spent a week watching that yesterday.

 
 

also, too…a girl doesn’t check in with sadly for a weekend and cerbs is unleased?!?!? imagine my surprise and delight! but i also hope there wasn’t some really good stuff in the mass of posts, i don’t have THAT much time on my hands…

 
 

Make sure to poke it in the side with a fountain pen.

Crown of nibs, too.

 
 

I spent a week watching that yesterday.

as you know, i’ll watch ANYthing with ian mcshane in it…this was okay, i mean i actually watched 8 out of 9 episodes, but i was highly disappointed in the hollywood ending…

 
 

also, too…a girl doesn’t check in with sadly for a weekend and cerbs is unleased?!?!?

I was pleased to see that too, because it means only scrolling past one tedious unfunny post.

 
 

Music for the war on Christmas.

 
 

cerbs is unleased?!?!?

Leasing is a sucker’s game.

 
 

as you know, i’ll watch ANYthing with ian mcshane in it…this was okay, i mean i actually watched 8 out of 9 episodes, but i was highly disappointed in the hollywood ending…

In terms of the marriage of Jack and the killing of the bishop? Or how the “witch” exposes the whole backstory with a dopey declamation at the end?

 
 

that little fraction who wander in on polling day like it’s a shampoo sample give-away at the mall

OMG, WHERE?!!!

Oh, hey, this Newt fellow has a nice smile…not like an evil gnome at all…think I’ll vote for him!

 
 

In terms of the marriage of Jack and the killing of the bishop? Or how the “witch” exposes the whole backstory with a dopey declamation at the end?

yes

 
 

cerbs is unleased?!?!?

unleashed, dammit! i meant unleashed!

 
 

Oh, hey, this Newt fellow has a nice smile…not like an evil gnome at all…think I’ll vote for him!

plus, he geve me a free shampoo sample! how neat is that?

 
 

Why did they take so long to come around to Newt? Guy’s been around for thirty years. Kinda like they wanted, not just a nonMitt, but a nonNewt.

 
Marion in Savannah
 

your age cohort has been at the driver’s seat since around 1970

Ex-fucking-scuse me. As probably the leading edge of the boomer generation (born in 1946) that would place “my age cohort” in “the driver’s seat” when the very oldest of us was 24. That’s bullshit and you know it.

 
 

NEXT year, Santa WILL bring me that new iPad2.

 
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge
 

If I were Mitt, I would have challenged Perry to a slap bet and made Diane Sawyer slap bet commissioner.

 
 

NEXT year, Santa WILL bring me that new iPad2.

i am hoping that quite soon santa will bring me typing and speaking skills…i seem to have lost mine…

 
 

Shorter Tintin: Now that Cerb is here posting awesome long-form fisking rants I guess I’ll have to step up up my game too…

 
 

If I were Mitt, I would have challenged Perry to a slap bet fight

FTFY

At least that would be worth betting on.

 
 

i am hoping that quite soon santa will bring me typing and speaking skills…i seem to have lost mine…

Hey, you asked him for new fingers last year and you got them. Stop whining.

 
 

Why don’t the Repigs just measure dicks and settle this thing once and for all? Then we get Michelle, like we wanted all along.

 
 

The crucified Santa is mockery of Christmas and Christian beliefs; mockery similar to the anti-Semitic outbreaks with which we all are familiar.

I’m sorry…did she just calls Jews “Mockeys”?

What a bigot!

 
 

Then we get Michelle, like we wanted all along.

the poor girl is struggling…she’s been on mnn all morning with her, ‘i’m the only consistent crazy!!!’ and my favorite, ‘there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the two’ meaning newt & mittens, whom she is referring to as ‘newt romney’
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that pause was me holding my sides with laffter…oh, she’s precocious, isn’t she?

she bases their ‘sameness’ on their both advocating for the health care plan…

ehhhhhh…yeah, i’m gonna miss her…

 
 

also, in looking at the pic again, the skelesanta looks to be groping himself! omg…so, he’s sloppy drunk, casually leaning against a cross while masturbating…truly, no one is thinking of the children!

 
 

I’m sorry…did she just calls Jews “Mockeys”?

What a bigot!

 
 

also, in looking at the pic again, the skelesanta looks to be groping himself! omg

It’s the skeleton of Michael Jackson! Oh, wait. No glove, sorry.

 
 

there’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the two’ meaning newt & mittens,

As some said on Wait Wait … this week, it makes a difference whether you say “Mitt or Newt” or “Newt or Mitt.”

 
 

For Pup and Spaghetti Lee on the last thread, there’s a new post.

For everyone else, don’t worry, I’m not becoming Tintin, the name of the game is still full mango overload.

 
 

This example by Baldung Grien comes to mind. I’m sure you all recognise it from the Gemäldegalerie in Berlin. I’m not sure why there is a pole-dancer at the bottom of the central cross.

I note that the backup crucifixees wear daring thongs while the main character is clad in a flowing diaper. What’s up with that?

 
 

From N_B’s link:

He said the urge to become a biological father was “a need that I have.”

Damn; I miss DU’s Top Ten Conservative Idiots. This would have been a solid entry.

 
 

I have the strangest things for breffus.

Nomming: you’re doing it right.

The really strange thing going on is that we space-age minkeys nearly always designate cereal (input that won’t even stick around until lunch) for the morning meal … & meat for our suppertime (whereas if we weren’t such goombahs, we’d have it for brekkies – it takes a long time to fully elaborate meat via the beauty of dissolution, absorption, & peristalsis).

Extra-groggy in the AM from yetserday’s unpercolated flesh-yummies, then crash-groggy from the wake of a too-light, too-early dose of cereal/s, then doped-groggy from a too-overdue meat-feast colliding with my declining pre-ZZZZZ metabolism? Nuts to that! Also, soup!

Considering how epic the chemical alteration of our diet itself has become during the current mainstream meal-regimen, I sometimes wonder how much a devolution to our previous not-so-arsy-turvy way of scarfing our vittles would alter various disease rates.

tl;dr = Chicken pickin’s for breakfast isn’t strange – it’s RETRO!

Also, too: HAPPY ZAPPADAN M00nD@Y!

 
Fully Elaborated Meat
 

Here today, POOP tomorrow.

 
 

I note that the backup crucifixees wear daring thongs while the main character is clad in a flowing diaper. What’s up with that?

The main character’s dick wouldn’t fit in the thong.
Christ’s erection is another convention in Northern Renaissance iconography. Not making this up.

 
 

The Kiwis are stranger than we knew: http://wonkette.com/458090/alabama-wingnut-politician-on-secret-lesbian-impregnating-holiday

Wonkette has it that Johnson is “working for some charity in New Zealand”, which is not true — he works for a disaster-capitalism company, apply enough named after the Goodess of Fertility.
Ceres Environmental sent their equipment and staff to Christchurch when the money ran out in Haiti.

 
 

I spent three years of Reagan’s term in the military, and most of the rest in student housing coops and art school. I knew people who were studying all kinds of things and had the good fortune of learning as much in the living room of the house I was living in as I learned in school—interdisciplinary learning.I knew a LOT of people. I could hardly go anywhere in Austin without running into someone I knew and it was “hail fellow well met”. It was not unusual for me to attend parties with 200 or more guests at any given time. I also spent years cleaning house for elderly women who mostly liberal but there were a few Eisenhower conservatives, and knew people from my life in Austin before I went to college, and new friends of family, and family of friends. We all argued politics freely, agreed to disagree, and did our best not to polarize every issue. I and my fellow airmen spoke more openly and honestly about politics than most people. One of my good buddies in art school was a Republican, gun-loving, former Army officer, and a Calvinist who had a degree in history and was pursuing a degree in art. We could talk about ANYTHING. I could invite all my completely different friends to a dinner party and everyone got along just swell and enjoyed lively, stimulating, pleasant conversation because everyone was comfortable with what they believed and how they thought and didn’t feel the slightest inclination to impose that on others or to make a moralistic judgment about someone over a difference of opinion or perspective. Different people have different perspectives and different opinions. That’s life. That’s a good thing. Variety is the spice of life. If everyone had the same perspectives and opinions, humanity, would in all likelihood die from unchecked stupidity and ignorance. Conservatives could be conservatives without being paranoid and hateful. Liberals could be liberal without trying to tell everybody how to live and shaming people who didn’t adopt their priorities without question.

In all those years— including the years in the Air Force— I knew NO ONE. NOT A SINGLE PERSON, WHO. LIKED REAGAN or had much good to say about him. Most people considered him a sclerotic moron and a plant. A couple of air traffic controllers I knew hated him with a red-hot passion that I have seldom seen since.

I had a very hard time believing that he was really reelected.Too many people are buying the bullshit rewrite— the zombie Reagan and Reagan’s America that the wingnutjobs keep jacking off to.

And anyone who thinks the Boomers are responsible for Bush needs to take a gander at the statistics and see if they see any significant difference between the way Generation X voted and the way Boomers did. What I’ve noticed with Generation X, as a generalization, yet a fact, is the extreme revival and worship of Ayn Rand that occurred at the end of the eighties and the nineties.

When I was in high school, she was just considered to be a really bad writer. We read Heller, Vonnegut, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Jack Kerouac, Joyce Carol Oates, Mark Twain, Marilyn French, Tolkein, Steinberg, and a few others as required reading in my high school literature class, and most of us read more quality literature by great writers on top of the requirements and talked about them as literature— not philosophy. Not prophesy. Not a prescription.

The generation that dominated the campus at the university I dropped out of thought it was acceptable for two thirds of a page of the editorial section to be devoted to a very poorly written screed (I’d put it at seventh grade level) about how awful it was that Dove soap had an advertisement aimed at older women with older women in the ads that committed the outrageous act of suggesting that older women should have esteem for our bodies, and take care of them; because older women shouldn’t be feeling self-esteem when it comes to the health and attractiveness of their bodies, because old women aren’t attractive. Young women are sexually attractive and have a write to respect their bodies. Older women don’t.

I wish I could say that I’m exaggerating, but I’m not. It was one of the most gob-smacking pieces of shit I’ve ever read in my life. Made me feel extra welcome as a student on campus too. One of the side-effects of this Baby Boomer bashing is putting elderly women even further down the totem pole and more or less treating us as worthless bothers and eye sores because we dare not to get Botox treatments or spend an enormous amount of money to make our teeth look like the teeth of a twenty year old with the whiteness of a well-scrubbed toilet bowl.

These attitudes are of consequence and not just harmless little expressions on the internet, anymore than saying, “Yeah, if the niggers hadn’t ruined it all…”

It is ugly. And I say this because I love you sadlynaughts and trust that you are good people who are open-minded and fair in your dealings.

In Muslim societies, when a woman reaches menarche, she is considered to be “as good as a man.” In our society, older women are worthless pieces of shit that should FEEL like worthless pieces of shit and way too few people have serious compunctions about treating us as such in the meat world.

 
 

The really strange thing going on is that we space-age minkeys nearly always designate cereal (input that won’t even stick around until lunch) for the morning meal

IIRC, the Diabetes Cereal Promotion Council worked hard in the 1950s to convince everyone that modern people were shifting to a sugar-&-cereal based breakfast.
They even had Scientific Experiments to prove its superiority, in which hungry kids whose diets were supplemented with sugary breakfasts tended to concentrate better at school than kids who were left hungry.

Marcus Aurelius (c180 AD) quote for all you boomer-blamers : The times are bad and this is an ignorant generation.

I’m gonna have to ask for a citation on that.

 
address my envelope, lips!
 

So I showed this to my SO, and he said the only thing it’s missing is an infant skeleton cradled in Santa’s bony arms.

Santa holding the aborted fetus skeleton of Jesus! OMFG! Sacredlidge!

 
 

What I’ve noticed with Generation X, as a generalization, yet a fact, is the extreme revival and worship of Ayn Rand that occurred at the end of the eighties and the nineties.

When I was in high school, she was just considered to be a really bad writer.

I hope that this doesn’t mean that 30+ years from now “Twilight” will be the foundation of a political ideology.

 
 

I’d prefer that Santa be sewn in a bag with various venomous and carnivorous animals and the bag thrown in the Tiber, but I’ll settle for crucifixion.

Someone’s been reading Steven Saylor.

 
 

Uh oh, chargin’ mah paddlez to zap thee thread.

***CLEAR!***

(znch)

 
 

So I showed this to my SO, and he said the only thing it’s missing is an infant skeleton cradled in Santa’s bony arms.

What has Skelesanta brought in his sack?
HO HO HO.

 
 

One of the side-effects of this Baby Boomer bashing

By some measures I am a Boomer. When I went to school at a state university the town voted Democrat and the dorms voted Republican. AND THEN THEY DIDN’T GET OFF MY LAWN.

 
 

Someone’s been reading Steven Saylor.

No, that’s a standard penalty for minor parking violations in Houston.

 
address my envelope, lips!
 

What has Skelesanta brought in his sack?

Aborted fetuses for all the good little Christian girls and boys!

“You want ’em so much, YOU raise ’em. Ho ho ho! Merry end of the fiscal 4th quarter!”

 
 

I once crucified a cabbage patch doll. On Good Friday. No lie.

 
 

Is that Cliff Peterson from “the Craig Ferguson” talk show? Maybe he’s moonlighting as a Santa because the skinflint Scotsman doesn’t pay him enuff!

 
 

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