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	<title>Comments on: Powerline: The Embarrassment Would Long Since Have Killed Weaker Men</title>
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	<description>Poise! Poise!</description>
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		<title>By: wait a minute</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-70862</link>
		<dc:creator>wait a minute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may get a few seats, but nothing overwhelming.  Certainly no majority in Congress.

The reason is, you&#039;ve got absolutely nothing positive to contribute to America, or even the world, for that matter.

Moral equivalency - that&#039;s your problem.  If you condemn violence, then you cannot condemn the justifiable response to that violence.  You cannot condemn both Hezbollah AND Israel.  If I punch you, and you then punch me back, I should be condemned for violence, not you.

If the Democratic leadership can&#039;t understand that difference, you&#039;ll never get any votes, and you don&#039;t deserve to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may get a few seats, but nothing overwhelming.  Certainly no majority in Congress.</p>
<p>The reason is, you&#8217;ve got absolutely nothing positive to contribute to America, or even the world, for that matter.</p>
<p>Moral equivalency &#8211; that&#8217;s your problem.  If you condemn violence, then you cannot condemn the justifiable response to that violence.  You cannot condemn both Hezbollah AND Israel.  If I punch you, and you then punch me back, I should be condemned for violence, not you.</p>
<p>If the Democratic leadership can&#8217;t understand that difference, you&#8217;ll never get any votes, and you don&#8217;t deserve to.</p>
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		<title>By: OneTopJob6</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-70439</link>
		<dc:creator>OneTopJob6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 04:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait a SECOND...  By saying &quot;no, I am AGAINST VIOLENCE&quot;, in effect Dingell condemns Hezbollah but also Israel. But that won&#039;t with the political orthodoxy, can it? Also, to be an honest broker is step in and actually DO SOMETHING instead of letting the slaughter continue. Clinton did it, Reagan did it, both to varying successes and failures.
No wonder Americans are going to overwhelmingly throw out the rethugs in November... we aren&#039;t swallowing your bullshit anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a SECOND&#8230;  By saying &#8220;no, I am AGAINST VIOLENCE&#8221;, in effect Dingell condemns Hezbollah but also Israel. But that won&#8217;t with the political orthodoxy, can it? Also, to be an honest broker is step in and actually DO SOMETHING instead of letting the slaughter continue. Clinton did it, Reagan did it, both to varying successes and failures.<br />
No wonder Americans are going to overwhelmingly throw out the rethugs in November&#8230; we aren&#8217;t swallowing your bullshit anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: wait a minute</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-70075</link>
		<dc:creator>wait a minute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys are missing the point.  Dingell was asked whether he condemns Hezbollah, a terrorist organization.  He said &quot;no...&quot;  That&#039;s not &quot;yes,&quot; it&#039;s &quot;no.&quot;

He then went on to say that the U.S. should be an &quot;honest broker&quot; in the middle east.  That is a euphemism for &quot;have more sympathy for terrorists.&quot;

No wonder most Americans don&#039;t vote Democrat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are missing the point.  Dingell was asked whether he condemns Hezbollah, a terrorist organization.  He said &#8220;no&#8230;&#8221;  That&#8217;s not &#8220;yes,&#8221; it&#8217;s &#8220;no.&#8221;</p>
<p>He then went on to say that the U.S. should be an &#8220;honest broker&#8221; in the middle east.  That is a euphemism for &#8220;have more sympathy for terrorists.&#8221;</p>
<p>No wonder most Americans don&#8217;t vote Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: fiver</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-70043</link>
		<dc:creator>fiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 18:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Bill B.  I&#039;m not much of a Hitchens fan, but I *will* look into the issue.  That&#039;s what we moonbats love to do, research things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Bill B.  I&#8217;m not much of a Hitchens fan, but I *will* look into the issue.  That&#8217;s what we moonbats love to do, research things.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmah420</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-69877</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmah420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 09:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill B, still not impressed. That link is basically an opinion piece.

But I&#039;m sure it&#039;s just more persecution of conservatives by that damn liberal media right?

Hurr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill B, still not impressed. That link is basically an opinion piece.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s just more persecution of conservatives by that damn liberal media right?</p>
<p>Hurr</p>
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		<title>By: random_guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>random_guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 02:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you seriously posting Christopher fucking Hitchens as a supposedly impartial source? You&#039;re attempting to chastise us about exhibiting group-think, and you read Chris Hitchens and Powerline regularly? What a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you seriously posting Christopher fucking Hitchens as a supposedly impartial source? You&#8217;re attempting to chastise us about exhibiting group-think, and you read Chris Hitchens and Powerline regularly? What a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: kerril</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-69714</link>
		<dc:creator>kerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Jesus Goatboy, glad I wasn&#039;t drinking anything carbonated just then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Jesus Goatboy, glad I wasn&#8217;t drinking anything carbonated just then.</p>
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		<title>By: GoatBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoatBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh aren&#039;t we just above it all.

I say, old bean! the native types get up to some jolly mischief, &lt;i&gt;non&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh aren&#8217;t we just above it all.</p>
<p>I say, old bean! the native types get up to some jolly mischief, <i>non</i>?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timmah420, hi there! Here&#039;s something for you to read about the yellowcake myth. http://www.slate.com/toolbar.aspx?action=print&amp;id=2146475

I know, I know. It&#039;s not from one of your &quot;trusted sources&quot;. That brings me back to the echo chamber thing I was discussing yesterday. I know you people won&#039;t accept anything that doesn&#039;t come from somewhere (blog, etc.) in which everybody already agrees with you. Therefore you won&#039;t ever change your mind or admit you were wrong about something. That&#039;s why I suggested it&#039;s a waste of time for me to try to change your mind (as I stated in a couple of posts upthread).

I read this site mainly because I have an interest in group psychology. Moonbattery and echo-chamberitis represent one of my current fascinations. I&#039;ll comment occasionally when there&#039;s a thread about subject matter I won&#039;t see elsewhere or if I happen to be here when it&#039;s posted (in this instance the Powerline story caught my eye).

Oh, and DanSomeone? Color me &lt;b&gt;shocked&lt;/b&gt; that when you were proven wrong you simply decided to move the goalposts so that you could make yourself feel like you weren&#039;t wrong afterall. See? This place is the gift that keeps on giving, especially for someone like me who has a keen interest in human behavior and group interaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmah420, hi there! Here&#8217;s something for you to read about the yellowcake myth. <a href="http://www.slate.com/toolbar.aspx?action=print&#038;id=2146475" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/toolbar.aspx?action=print&#038;id=2146475</a></p>
<p>I know, I know. It&#8217;s not from one of your &#8220;trusted sources&#8221;. That brings me back to the echo chamber thing I was discussing yesterday. I know you people won&#8217;t accept anything that doesn&#8217;t come from somewhere (blog, etc.) in which everybody already agrees with you. Therefore you won&#8217;t ever change your mind or admit you were wrong about something. That&#8217;s why I suggested it&#8217;s a waste of time for me to try to change your mind (as I stated in a couple of posts upthread).</p>
<p>I read this site mainly because I have an interest in group psychology. Moonbattery and echo-chamberitis represent one of my current fascinations. I&#8217;ll comment occasionally when there&#8217;s a thread about subject matter I won&#8217;t see elsewhere or if I happen to be here when it&#8217;s posted (in this instance the Powerline story caught my eye).</p>
<p>Oh, and DanSomeone? Color me <b>shocked</b> that when you were proven wrong you simply decided to move the goalposts so that you could make yourself feel like you weren&#8217;t wrong afterall. See? This place is the gift that keeps on giving, especially for someone like me who has a keen interest in human behavior and group interaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Nino the Mindboggler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-69631</link>
		<dc:creator>Nino the Mindboggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope... GAAAAHHHH!!!! I-TAG! I-TAG!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope&#8230; GAAAAHHHH!!!! I-TAG! I-TAG!</p>
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		<title>By: Nino the Mindboggler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-69630</link>
		<dc:creator>Nino the Mindboggler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 19:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;/i&gt;...did that fix the italics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;did that fix the italics?</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
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		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 16:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher,

I think you&#039;re forgetting that, if we take over the house, Dingell will be chair of the House Energy and Commerce committee.

I hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher,</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re forgetting that, if we take over the house, Dingell will be chair of the House Energy and Commerce committee.</p>
<p>I hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question is not &quot;Why would a prestigious blog like Powerline do this?&quot;, the question is, &quot;Why would a blog so utterly lacking in substance and merit ever get any prestige?&quot;

Maybe at one point they were insightful, but for the last 3 years they&#039;ve done nothing but repeat GOP talking points, usually without even the embellishment that Rush or Malkin give them.

In fact,m I think this might be a good contest: Find a Powerline post where the boys disagre with mainstream Republican thinking.

Incidentally, I&#039;m completely baffled at Powerline&#039;s retraction (But not surprised). I mean, uh, the Isrealis have killed a fuckload of Lebanese citizens. And as I argued earlier, Isrealis, by being members of a democratic country with a tac-supported military, are actually MORE likely to be providing material aid and comfort to babykillers then Lebanese citizens.

Not that this AT ALL excuses the targeting of Isreali civillians, but I think that was the Congressman&#039;s point; what&#039;s good for the goose is good for the gander, and rationales for Isreali targeting of civilians seem to equally excuse Hezbollah targeting of civilians.

Incidentally, am I the only persn who doesn&#039;t see how Representative Dingell&#039;s views on the conflict have any bearing on the Energy Commitee?

I mean, if anything a neutral view might be slightly helpful, since a lot of Middle Eastern oil producers would be much more sympathetic to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is not &#8220;Why would a prestigious blog like Powerline do this?&#8221;, the question is, &#8220;Why would a blog so utterly lacking in substance and merit ever get any prestige?&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe at one point they were insightful, but for the last 3 years they&#8217;ve done nothing but repeat GOP talking points, usually without even the embellishment that Rush or Malkin give them.</p>
<p>In fact,m I think this might be a good contest: Find a Powerline post where the boys disagre with mainstream Republican thinking.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I&#8217;m completely baffled at Powerline&#8217;s retraction (But not surprised). I mean, uh, the Isrealis have killed a fuckload of Lebanese citizens. And as I argued earlier, Isrealis, by being members of a democratic country with a tac-supported military, are actually MORE likely to be providing material aid and comfort to babykillers then Lebanese citizens.</p>
<p>Not that this AT ALL excuses the targeting of Isreali civillians, but I think that was the Congressman&#8217;s point; what&#8217;s good for the goose is good for the gander, and rationales for Isreali targeting of civilians seem to equally excuse Hezbollah targeting of civilians.</p>
<p>Incidentally, am I the only persn who doesn&#8217;t see how Representative Dingell&#8217;s views on the conflict have any bearing on the Energy Commitee?</p>
<p>I mean, if anything a neutral view might be slightly helpful, since a lot of Middle Eastern oil producers would be much more sympathetic to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cranky Yankee</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-69537</link>
		<dc:creator>Cranky Yankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In other words, they were wrong, but being wrong only makes them more right! Jonah Goldberg called, he wants his argument back. &quot;

Priceless!

&lt;a href=&quot;http://crankyyankee.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cranky Yankee&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In other words, they were wrong, but being wrong only makes them more right! Jonah Goldberg called, he wants his argument back. &#8221;</p>
<p>Priceless!</p>
<p><a href="http://crankyyankee.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Cranky Yankee</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Mordant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-69535</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Mordant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And fiver, if after all this time you still believe in your mythology Iâ€™m certainly not going to waste my time trying to set you straight.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;No indeed, fiver, that I simply will not do. It would be unseemly of me to disparage such unique and interesting &lt;i&gt;views&lt;/i&gt;. I will, however, post several times over the course of several hours repeatedly asserting that I will not waste my time trying to talk sense into you Sasquatch watching, alien abductee moonbats. 

I...said...good...DAY!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And fiver, if after all this time you still believe in your mythology Iâ€™m certainly not going to waste my time trying to set you straight.</i></p>
<p>&#8220;No indeed, fiver, that I simply will not do. It would be unseemly of me to disparage such unique and interesting <i>views</i>. I will, however, post several times over the course of several hours repeatedly asserting that I will not waste my time trying to talk sense into you Sasquatch watching, alien abductee moonbats. </p>
<p>I&#8230;said&#8230;good&#8230;DAY!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Timmah420</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmah420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 09:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill B : So let me get this straight, you click over to a predominately liberal blog, you act condescending and superior because we still buy into some sort of undefined lie about the yellowcake memos and whatever else, and then you fail to properly cite sources for your claims.

Colour me unimpressed.

I&#039;ll remember to look you up when I need half hearted trollery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill B : So let me get this straight, you click over to a predominately liberal blog, you act condescending and superior because we still buy into some sort of undefined lie about the yellowcake memos and whatever else, and then you fail to properly cite sources for your claims.</p>
<p>Colour me unimpressed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll remember to look you up when I need half hearted trollery.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkusB</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3444.html#comment-69513</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkusB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope.
Okay, &lt;em&gt;one&lt;/em&gt; more try.

(Never mind.  It&#039;s a markup thing.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope.<br />
Okay, <em>one</em> more try.</p>
<p>(Never mind.  It&#8217;s a markup thing.)</p>
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		<title>By: MarkusB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkusB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 07:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeesh.
&lt;/em&gt;
I hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeesh.</p>
<p>I hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: GoatBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoatBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BLARGH!  Fatty lawyerbeast!  It is CREATURE did eat the videotape!!1!!!13</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BLARGH!  Fatty lawyerbeast!  It is CREATURE did eat the videotape!!1!!!13</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 02:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then I was just reading this thread kinda randomly and I saw something I missed.  Michael Berube (sorry, don&#039;t know how to make those accent e  thingies) QUOTED me.  Even if it was all snark, I can now die complete....

mikey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then I was just reading this thread kinda randomly and I saw something I missed.  Michael Berube (sorry, don&#8217;t know how to make those accent e  thingies) QUOTED me.  Even if it was all snark, I can now die complete&#8230;.</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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