Yeah right – just like they condemned the 2001 anthrax attacks that Cheney ordered.

Gary, can’t bring yourself to condemn a criminal act huh?

So lets go through the sequence of events:

Gary says (in a rationalization for the 6 year investigation of Clinton)

“No, Clinton was committing crimes.�

and He was challenged: “And what crimes would those be? Name one”

To which Gary responded “Perjury and Obstruction of Justice.”

Gary. Here’s a concept for you. Time.

It flows in one direction. Now. These crimes you reference, the ones you say validate the 6 years of investigation of the Clinton White-house occurred on March 15, 1998.

Now here’s the thing there Gary. You get to explain how you can say the previous 4 years of constant investigation by the republicans of Clinton was justified because “Clinton was committing crimes” when even the crime you say Clinton committed didn’t take place until 1998.

Go ahead – I’ll pop some popcorn.

What part of the constitution authorizes gay marriage?

The constitution does not “authorize”. That’s not it’s role. The constitution spells out the inherent rights, responsibilities and expectations the country has for it’s citizens, and that the citizens may expect from their country. It says that people may expect to be secure in their home and posessions, that no one can deprive them of the right to bear arms, the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Y’know, I’ve read the constitution a lot, and I don’t remember it mentioning the rules for marriage. But it does seem to indicate that all citizens may expect to be treated equally under the law.

Shouldn’t we abolish jails too if we want to stop people from facing the consequences of their so-called mistakes?

Another classic gary-wingnut tactic. You conflate the consequences of commiting a criminal act with the consequences of sex. Hmm, kind of interesting – maybe they have sex and crime all tangled up in their brain. But, whatever, it’s a specious argument, and it’s lousy debate. Again, the moral thing is to allow our citizens to live their lives the way they want to, now that science has advanced to make the option available to women. Not to try to force your antiquated ideology on them, in spite of the ruin it will cause.

The fact is that Abortion is also prohibited under the constitution.

Now that’s just stupid. Abortion is in no way discussed in the Constitutioin. Gary, you can read it for free on line, give it a shot.

The Constitution says in the 5th Amendment that “No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law�

Wow, interesting take on the 5th amendment. You are truly a groundbreaking constitutional scholar, gary. Hmm, I wonder why nobody thought to break that one out during the Roe v Wade case. OH! I KNOW!! It doesn’t fucking apply!! Oh yeah!

Gary, you are not only an idiot, but a lying idiot. I hope you have the balls to say some of this shit to a vet someday, right out to his face. Especially the part where he’s glad american soldiers are dying and the part where he’s pro-terrorist. Yer gonna wake up LUMPY!!!

mikey

The fact is the anything the Democrats do is political, while anything the Republicans do is patrotic.

The fact is that marriage is based on who has the penis and who has the vagina. If two men or two women marry, who is going to go into the kitchen to fetch the beer and sandwiches for the other one?

The fact is that Bush has magical powers, you just have to clap louder.

Ruppert, just on this thread:

…the fact that they are politicizing the deaths of American soldiers

The fact is that this will help the GOP…

The fact of the matter is that caskets weren’t shown…

The fact is that the media is not on our side here….

The fact is that when you consent to sex…

The fact is that Abortion is also prohibited…

It’s not enough to overwhelm my certainty that we’re all gonna die stupidly and soon, though.

Sheldon Wolin has an interesting essay.

I honestly believe that people think that America/Americans are just instrinsically different. They think drawing comparisons to some pretty nasty historical precedents for this kind of government behavior are ridiculous — for heaven’s sake, we’re not Germans! Or Italians! Or Russians! Even if we are! They think — I don’t know why, but they do — that It Can’t Happen Here. I’m talking about the rank and file, not the powerful, of course; the powerful are above the consequences. So far.

Well, a while ago i remember conservatives saying things like “Now is equality really served by creating a new kind of marriage for niggers to marry our daughters?”

Hahaha. Oh, shit, I think I’m going to die laughing. Let’s count it off, shall we? In the last five and a half years:

– Al-Quada has tripled it’s number of operatives. It’s cells have carried out successful attacks in England, Spain, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia and Turkey. It’s affiliate group in Iraq is contibuting to the complete collapse of that country. Muslims hate us.

– Hamas and Hizbollah have both made stunning election gains, in the former case actually winning majority control. Israel has recently gone to all-out war against it’s neighbor to the north, killing score of innocent people, in response to two soldier-nappings. Fears are rising that a regional escalation is eminent.

– Iran is standing up against the exact same rhetoric the American Warmongers used against Iraq — and we couldn’t ask for a better situation to duplicate, could we? Also, such rhetoric has empowered the hardliners and weakened the position of moderates in Iran, so even if there isn’t another disastorous war, we’ll still be faced with many more years of a hostile government in control of Tehran and influencing events in Iraq. Woo, good call, neo-cons!

– Obviously, if the acquisitions made by the warmongers that Iran and Syria are responsible for the current trouble in the holy land are true, which is possible but unlikely, then Bush and Co. really aren’t doing a bang up job dealing with them, now, are they?

So, if you simply look at the last few years, it’s hard to argue that conservatives are all that well equiped to “get the job done” themselves, isn’t it? In fact, the evidence that they are completely incompetent, disgustingly greedy and indefensibly stupid is stacked pretty damn high.

Shorter Gary Ruppert: …

JK47: “Something tells me no one has ever consented to sex with Gary.”

Well, there was that incident involving Gary’s right (naturally!) hand, but that was clearly a case of date rape.