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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; A Quick Note</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-70646</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; A Quick Note</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PS &#8212; Message for Pasty: I&#8217;m still mocking you! Bawk! Bawk! Bawk! Bawk! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; Wingnuts In Party Hats: Part Deux</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-69146</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; Wingnuts In Party Hats: Part Deux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;I am a classical liberal, like Glenn Reynolds is a libertarian! No wingnuts here, just cock! LOOK AT IT! BY THE POWERS OF THE MAGICAL COCK FETISH, YOU TOO CAN OUT-SOLDIER THE SOLDIERS!&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;I am a classical liberal, like Glenn Reynolds is a libertarian! No wingnuts here, just cock! LOOK AT IT! BY THE POWERS OF THE MAGICAL COCK FETISH, YOU TOO CAN OUT-SOLDIER THE SOLDIERS!&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Intent Card</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63801</link>
		<dc:creator>The Intent Card</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 14:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re obviouslyate ignorating Jeff Goldsteins editorialite intentinations when he signified the OI with his signation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re obviouslyate ignorating Jeff Goldsteins editorialite intentinations when he signified the OI with his signation.</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Opinions &#187; My Girls Have A Shoe Fetish</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63770</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Opinions &#187; My Girls Have A Shoe Fetish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] UPDATE: I couldn&#8217;t write anything on politics this evening. I had written a couple of posts over on GFAFC and after that I tried to write something about Deb Frisch and Jeff Goldstein. What&#8217;s the use? We know those two deserve each other. They&#8217;re a perfect match. One made sick comments on the other&#8217;s blog, and the other has a reputation of habitually threatening to turkeyslap (an NC-17 term I&#8217;m using to describe Goldstein&#8217;s narcissistic fixation of his own phallus &#8211;read here, here, and here for more details) whomever disagrees with him. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] UPDATE: I couldn&#8217;t write anything on politics this evening. I had written a couple of posts over on GFAFC and after that I tried to write something about Deb Frisch and Jeff Goldstein. What&#8217;s the use? We know those two deserve each other. They&#8217;re a perfect match. One made sick comments on the other&#8217;s blog, and the other has a reputation of habitually threatening to turkeyslap (an NC-17 term I&#8217;m using to describe Goldstein&#8217;s narcissistic fixation of his own phallus &#8211;read here, here, and here for more details) whomever disagrees with him. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63746</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Bimler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 05:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bugger. I meant, &#039;Mother Teresa&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bugger. I meant, &#8216;Mother Teresa&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63745</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Bimler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 05:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ex-Fed said,
Itâ€™s really not fair speaking ill of Patterico when heâ€™s too busy to respond. Heâ€™s occupied spamming every site he can with bragadocio about how heâ€™s braved the lionâ€™s den by coming here and sharing the pure white light of his wisdom with the depraved and raving leper hordes.&lt;/i&gt; 

Lion&#039;s den? Leper hordes? Is this an experiment in recombinant metaphors? If so, a comparison to Roman gladiators is also needed.

[insert image here, of Mother Calcutta ministering to the poor in the slums of Calcutta]

Patterico&#039;s own chosen metaphor was &quot;Descends into the snake pit&quot;. The phrase seemed appropriate enough to the Sadly,Nocracy... It filled my mind with images of ice baths, tranquillisers, shock treatments and straitjackets. Also a good description of my home life.

Who gets to play Olivia de Havilland&#039;s role?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ex-Fed said,<br />
Itâ€™s really not fair speaking ill of Patterico when heâ€™s too busy to respond. Heâ€™s occupied spamming every site he can with bragadocio about how heâ€™s braved the lionâ€™s den by coming here and sharing the pure white light of his wisdom with the depraved and raving leper hordes.</i> </p>
<p>Lion&#8217;s den? Leper hordes? Is this an experiment in recombinant metaphors? If so, a comparison to Roman gladiators is also needed.</p>
<p>[insert image here, of Mother Calcutta ministering to the poor in the slums of Calcutta]</p>
<p>Patterico&#8217;s own chosen metaphor was &#8220;Descends into the snake pit&#8221;. The phrase seemed appropriate enough to the Sadly,Nocracy&#8230; It filled my mind with images of ice baths, tranquillisers, shock treatments and straitjackets. Also a good description of my home life.</p>
<p>Who gets to play Olivia de Havilland&#8217;s role?</p>
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		<title>By: flawedplan</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63742</link>
		<dc:creator>flawedplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 04:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Fox radio news, saw that correspondence yesterday on her blog. She agreed to go on, asked some questions about how it would go, Fox said don&#039;t ask questions and your appearance hasn&#039;t even been cleared yet, at that point Frisch changed her mind. Fox said you know what fuck you, you&#039;re doing it, you said you would and now what&#039;s with this instability, is this a pattern with you, because it seems like you have a pattern of instability ya twitch. 

They will demolish what&#039;s left of her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Fox radio news, saw that correspondence yesterday on her blog. She agreed to go on, asked some questions about how it would go, Fox said don&#8217;t ask questions and your appearance hasn&#8217;t even been cleared yet, at that point Frisch changed her mind. Fox said you know what fuck you, you&#8217;re doing it, you said you would and now what&#8217;s with this instability, is this a pattern with you, because it seems like you have a pattern of instability ya twitch. </p>
<p>They will demolish what&#8217;s left of her.</p>
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		<title>By: Mo's Bike Shop</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63741</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo's Bike Shop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 04:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how he wrestles with the meaning of &quot;Online Integrity.&quot; I gather &quot;online&quot; modifies &quot;integrity&quot; in ways I had not previously imagined.



What percentage of the Constitution can you reject before you stop being pig-ignorant and start being un-American?


?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how he wrestles with the meaning of &#8220;Online Integrity.&#8221; I gather &#8220;online&#8221; modifies &#8220;integrity&#8221; in ways I had not previously imagined.</p>
<p>What percentage of the Constitution can you reject before you stop being pig-ignorant and start being un-American?</p>
<p>?</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Squid</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63728</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 03:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean Patrick Starfish tried doing a triple lindy off his swingset and landed on his face while I was away?

That&#039;ll teach me to go on vacation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean Patrick Starfish tried doing a triple lindy off his swingset and landed on his face while I was away?</p>
<p>That&#8217;ll teach me to go on vacation.</p>
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		<title>By: geoduck2</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63722</link>
		<dc:creator>geoduck2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I&#039;ll just re-quote her:

&lt;i&gt;Goldsteinâ€™s you-talked-about-my-child move is a strong one, but itâ€™s a move nonetheless, made by a person who likes to play the gameâ€¦ hard. Heâ€™s not a victim. Heâ€™s one of the people who has advanced himself in the blogosphere by making it hostile and ugly. Like all of us, he is capable of being hurt by a genuine crazy. But why not just delete the trolls? Why rile them?Some of them really arenâ€™t playing with a full deck. Why push weak people until they lose control? Itâ€™s an ugly game, and I think Jeff knows he plays it.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;ll just re-quote her:</p>
<p><i>Goldsteinâ€™s you-talked-about-my-child move is a strong one, but itâ€™s a move nonetheless, made by a person who likes to play the gameâ€¦ hard. Heâ€™s not a victim. Heâ€™s one of the people who has advanced himself in the blogosphere by making it hostile and ugly. Like all of us, he is capable of being hurt by a genuine crazy. But why not just delete the trolls? Why rile them?Some of them really arenâ€™t playing with a full deck. Why push weak people until they lose control? Itâ€™s an ugly game, and I think Jeff knows he plays it.</i></p>
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		<title>By: kc</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63721</link>
		<dc:creator>kc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see Goldstein has an interview lined up about the Frisch thing; he&#039;s gonna be dining out on this for months to come.

Hell, he oughta start paying her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see Goldstein has an interview lined up about the Frisch thing; he&#8217;s gonna be dining out on this for months to come.</p>
<p>Hell, he oughta start paying her.</p>
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		<title>By: geoduck2</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63719</link>
		<dc:creator>geoduck2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 02:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That Althouse comment was not only not stupid, not only right, it was downright penetrating. That is the dynamic, how she describes it, perfectly.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh yes.  

(Nods head in agreement.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That Althouse comment was not only not stupid, not only right, it was downright penetrating. That is the dynamic, how she describes it, perfectly.</i></p>
<p>Oh yes.  </p>
<p>(Nods head in agreement.)</p>
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		<title>By: The Editors</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63714</link>
		<dc:creator>The Editors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 01:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Althouse comment was not only not stupid, not only right, it was downright penetrating.  That is the dynamic, how she describes it, perfectly.

*shudders*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Althouse comment was not only not stupid, not only right, it was downright penetrating.  That is the dynamic, how she describes it, perfectly.</p>
<p>*shudders*</p>
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		<title>By: Bas-O-Matic</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63711</link>
		<dc:creator>Bas-O-Matic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 01:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What she got right was that Goldstein &amp; Frisch deserve each other. Thatâ€™s all I meant by the link. Well that and itâ€™s funny to link to her wrt Goldstein because he hates her for making fun of his first Peehole Media blogjam â€” hence the great projectionistâ€™s whine that she is carrying a grudge.&lt;/i&gt;

As much as it pains me to admit it, Goldstein was in the right in that whole episode.  Althouse, true to form, refused in the face of overwhelming evidence to acknowledge she had made a mistake.  You&#039;ll notice also that in pointing out the Goldstein matter she points to a post where she relished in Thers&#039;s troubles.  Her and Thers have a history over an incident similar to her and Goldstein&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What she got right was that Goldstein &amp; Frisch deserve each other. Thatâ€™s all I meant by the link. Well that and itâ€™s funny to link to her wrt Goldstein because he hates her for making fun of his first Peehole Media blogjam â€” hence the great projectionistâ€™s whine that she is carrying a grudge.</i></p>
<p>As much as it pains me to admit it, Goldstein was in the right in that whole episode.  Althouse, true to form, refused in the face of overwhelming evidence to acknowledge she had made a mistake.  You&#8217;ll notice also that in pointing out the Goldstein matter she points to a post where she relished in Thers&#8217;s troubles.  Her and Thers have a history over an incident similar to her and Goldstein&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Retardo Montalban</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63708</link>
		<dc:creator>Retardo Montalban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2006 01:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Althouse

What she got right was that Goldstein &amp; Frisch deserve each other. That&#039;s all I meant by the link. Well that and it&#039;s funny to link to her wrt Goldstein because he hates her for making fun of his first Peehole Media blogjam -- hence the great projectionist&#039;s whine that &lt;i&gt;she&lt;/i&gt; is carrying a grudge.

I disavow any and all other endorsement of Ann Althouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Althouse</p>
<p>What she got right was that Goldstein &amp; Frisch deserve each other. That&#8217;s all I meant by the link. Well that and it&#8217;s funny to link to her wrt Goldstein because he hates her for making fun of his first Peehole Media blogjam &#8212; hence the great projectionist&#8217;s whine that <i>she</i> is carrying a grudge.</p>
<p>I disavow any and all other endorsement of Ann Althouse.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Who would win in a fight: Vox Day or Goldsteinâ€™s cock?&lt;/i&gt;

Vox Day.  But it would be a protracted struggle, requiring some tens of minutes and a great deal of &quot;personal lubricant&quot;.

Have fun getting &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; image out of your brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Who would win in a fight: Vox Day or Goldsteinâ€™s cock?</i></p>
<p>Vox Day.  But it would be a protracted struggle, requiring some tens of minutes and a great deal of &#8220;personal lubricant&#8221;.</p>
<p>Have fun getting <i>that</i> image out of your brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Thers</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63689</link>
		<dc:creator>Thers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the &quot;WHAT!&quot; front, I saw &lt;a href=&quot;http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/prominent-right-wing-blogger-today.html#c115265432907270468&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; in a comment at Greenwald&#039;s:

&quot;Deb Frisch has posted about this on a listserv of which I am a member... She was writing to solicit help dealing with Fox News, which was threatening her if she did not appear to discuss this on John Gibson&#039;s show.&quot;

Fox News is doing a piece on this...? Dustups on blog comments sections are deemed worthy of national news programs? Or even John Gibson&#039;s demented little circus act?

Shazbot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the &#8220;WHAT!&#8221; front, I saw <a href="http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/07/prominent-right-wing-blogger-today.html#c115265432907270468" rel="nofollow">this</a> in a comment at Greenwald&#8217;s:</p>
<p>&#8220;Deb Frisch has posted about this on a listserv of which I am a member&#8230; She was writing to solicit help dealing with Fox News, which was threatening her if she did not appear to discuss this on John Gibson&#8217;s show.&#8221;</p>
<p>Fox News is doing a piece on this&#8230;? Dustups on blog comments sections are deemed worthy of national news programs? Or even John Gibson&#8217;s demented little circus act?</p>
<p>Shazbot.</p>
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		<title>By: The Devil's Advocate</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63682</link>
		<dc:creator>The Devil's Advocate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 22:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His restraint? 



LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His restraint? </p>
<p>LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3226.html#comment-63681</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 22:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.

1. Following the whole flapdoodle, someone links to a picture of Frisch in the comments at PW, a picture including a little girl who could be Frisch&#039;s daughter.

2. Frisch politely (!) asks Goldstein to delete the offending link.

&lt;blockquote&gt;    Hi Jeff.

    You allowed someone to post a picture of me at home. Given the many, many threats I have received from your fans, this is not acceptable.  I perceive it as a physical threat.

    Please delete the link to the picture.

    Thanks,

    Deb&lt;/blockquote&gt;

3. Goldstein, in the course of a post talking about what a mensch he is for granting her this &quot;favor,&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://proteinwisdom.com/index.php?/weblog/entry/20649/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;REPRINTS THE LINK&lt;/a&gt; on the front page of his blog.

My God.  What an ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
<p>1. Following the whole flapdoodle, someone links to a picture of Frisch in the comments at PW, a picture including a little girl who could be Frisch&#8217;s daughter.</p>
<p>2. Frisch politely (!) asks Goldstein to delete the offending link.</p>
<blockquote><p>    Hi Jeff.</p>
<p>    You allowed someone to post a picture of me at home. Given the many, many threats I have received from your fans, this is not acceptable.  I perceive it as a physical threat.</p>
<p>    Please delete the link to the picture.</p>
<p>    Thanks,</p>
<p>    Deb</p></blockquote>
<p>3. Goldstein, in the course of a post talking about what a mensch he is for granting her this &#8220;favor,&#8221; <a href="http://proteinwisdom.com/index.php?/weblog/entry/20649/" rel="nofollow">REPRINTS THE LINK</a> on the front page of his blog.</p>
<p>My God.  What an ass.</p>
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		<title>By: jayinbmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>jayinbmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2006 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this answers the real question. Who would win in a fight: Vox Day or Goldstein&#039;s cock?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this answers the real question. Who would win in a fight: Vox Day or Goldstein&#8217;s cock?</p>
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