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		<title>By: Justine</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-2#comment-220635</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 11:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUOTE:
&quot;All I have to do is look down at the keyboard and there’s my hairy white gut slopping over it, and there’s crumbs between the keys from the fake homemade soft’n&#039;chewy big cookies in the vending machine downstairs.&quot;

I almost choked on my diet coke as I read this.  It reminds me so much of the guy in the cubicle opposite me right now!</description>
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&#8220;All I have to do is look down at the keyboard and there’s my hairy white gut slopping over it, and there’s crumbs between the keys from the fake homemade soft’n&#8217;chewy big cookies in the vending machine downstairs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I almost choked on my diet coke as I read this.  It reminds me so much of the guy in the cubicle opposite me right now!</p>
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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; Dolchstoss Chronicles</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-2#comment-129109</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; Dolchstoss Chronicles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 13:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] say in the plainest way what Glenn Reynolds, Rush Limbaugh, Redstate.com White Trash, Mark Steyn, Jim Pinkerton, Patrick Bateman Stephen Green, Marie Jon&#8217;,  Michael Barone, and, especially, Jeff Goldstein [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] say in the plainest way what Glenn Reynolds, Rush Limbaugh, Redstate.com White Trash, Mark Steyn, Jim Pinkerton, Patrick Bateman Stephen Green, Marie Jon&#8217;,  Michael Barone, and, especially, Jeff Goldstein [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Herr Doktor Bimler</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-2#comment-60650</link>
		<dc:creator>Herr Doktor Bimler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are precedents. Wasn&#039;t the &quot;Protocols of the Elders of Zion&quot; based largely on another author&#039;s satire? It&#039;s a while since I read Norman Cohn&#039;s analysis, &#039;Warrant for Genocide&#039;, so feel free to correct me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are precedents. Wasn&#8217;t the &#8220;Protocols of the Elders of Zion&#8221; based largely on another author&#8217;s satire? It&#8217;s a while since I read Norman Cohn&#8217;s analysis, &#8216;Warrant for Genocide&#8217;, so feel free to correct me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bodhisattva</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-2#comment-60647</link>
		<dc:creator>Bodhisattva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still fail to see the satire/parody.</description>
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		<title>By: DairyStateDad</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-2#comment-60635</link>
		<dc:creator>DairyStateDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t the first time Pinkerton has relayed &quot;War Nerd&#039;s&quot; satire as trenchant wisdom about the conduct of War.

See this:

http://www.cosmiciguana.com/2005/11/fox_newsday_columnist_pinkerto_1.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t the first time Pinkerton has relayed &#8220;War Nerd&#8217;s&#8221; satire as trenchant wisdom about the conduct of War.</p>
<p>See this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cosmiciguana.com/2005/11/fox_newsday_columnist_pinkerto_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cosmiciguana.com/2005/11/fox_newsday_columnist_pinkerto_1.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pollen Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-2#comment-60595</link>
		<dc:creator>Pollen Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do right-wingers want to lose civil rights? I doubt it. They just don&#039;t care if those of a certain economic class do.</description>
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		<title>By: Bodhisattva</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-2#comment-60577</link>
		<dc:creator>Bodhisattva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 15:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you guys sure that War Nerd is a parody? He seems like a bona fide paleocon.</description>
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		<title>By: Karatist Preacher</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-2#comment-60557</link>
		<dc:creator>Karatist Preacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easy to laugh at these douchebags but it&#039;s really getting frustrating to hear them gladly give up everyone else&#039;s civil liberties so they won&#039;t wet themselves.  Go hide under your beds and STFU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easy to laugh at these douchebags but it&#8217;s really getting frustrating to hear them gladly give up everyone else&#8217;s civil liberties so they won&#8217;t wet themselves.  Go hide under your beds and STFU.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-2#comment-60552</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I e-mailed Mr. Pinkerton saying that since &quot;War Nerd&quot; is considered parody, he may want to refrain from using it in support of his arguments.  Here is his reply:

Dear Ms. ____________:

Thanks for a thoughtful e.  
 
Please tell me how it is you know that &quot;War Nerd&quot; is a parody.   I tend to think of him merely as a vivid writer, with a broad, even ghoulish, sense of humor.  But whoever he is, he knows his stuff, and writes with intensity, as opposed to mere irony.   
 
At least that&#039;s what I thought--and still think.
 
Best,
 
Jim Pinkerton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I e-mailed Mr. Pinkerton saying that since &#8220;War Nerd&#8221; is considered parody, he may want to refrain from using it in support of his arguments.  Here is his reply:</p>
<p>Dear Ms. ____________:</p>
<p>Thanks for a thoughtful e.  </p>
<p>Please tell me how it is you know that &#8220;War Nerd&#8221; is a parody.   I tend to think of him merely as a vivid writer, with a broad, even ghoulish, sense of humor.  But whoever he is, he knows his stuff, and writes with intensity, as opposed to mere irony.   </p>
<p>At least that&#8217;s what I thought&#8211;and still think.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Jim Pinkerton</p>
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		<title>By: pbg</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-1#comment-60544</link>
		<dc:creator>pbg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, after all..Ann Coulter is a satirist!</description>
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		<title>By: flawedplan</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-1#comment-60523</link>
		<dc:creator>flawedplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, we&#039;re agreed then; &lt;i&gt;Tory shitstain&lt;/i&gt; it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, we&#8217;re agreed then; <i>Tory shitstain</i> it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Zachary Drake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zachary Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I realize that War Nerd is an extreme caricature and a fictional personality. I should have put that in my post. I also think he makes a heck of a lot more sense than the extreme caricatures and real personalities that do run the war. Which is very scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I realize that War Nerd is an extreme caricature and a fictional personality. I should have put that in my post. I also think he makes a heck of a lot more sense than the extreme caricatures and real personalities that do run the war. Which is very scary.</p>
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		<title>By: telly</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-1#comment-60509</link>
		<dc:creator>telly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œIâ€™d rather lose our civil liberties than lose the war.â€?

Well, I&#039;d like to know how giving up my civil liberties is going to win that utterly unwinnable war. Not that I&#039;m willing to make that trade. And I am amazed that any true conservative would go along with it. But I guess these aren&#039;t true anything-- they&#039;re inconsistent and incoherent.

I think we ought to start a whispering campaign...  &quot;They&#039;ve decided the 4th and 5th and 1st amendments are toilet paper. Know what&#039;s next??? the Second Amendment!  They&#039;re going after our guns next! They&#039;re going to tell us that if we have guns, we&#039;re going to cause the US to lose the war!&quot;  Get the NRA all paranoid, and there goes the Repub base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œIâ€™d rather lose our civil liberties than lose the war.â€?</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;d like to know how giving up my civil liberties is going to win that utterly unwinnable war. Not that I&#8217;m willing to make that trade. And I am amazed that any true conservative would go along with it. But I guess these aren&#8217;t true anything&#8211; they&#8217;re inconsistent and incoherent.</p>
<p>I think we ought to start a whispering campaign&#8230;  &#8220;They&#8217;ve decided the 4th and 5th and 1st amendments are toilet paper. Know what&#8217;s next??? the Second Amendment!  They&#8217;re going after our guns next! They&#8217;re going to tell us that if we have guns, we&#8217;re going to cause the US to lose the war!&#8221;  Get the NRA all paranoid, and there goes the Repub base.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeg</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/3085.html/comment-page-1#comment-60496</link>
		<dc:creator>mikeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War Nerd is John Dolan.  Compare &quot;Brecher&quot;&#039;s and Dolan&#039;s prose styles.  They are identical.  &quot;Brecher&quot; talks about war the same way Dolan talks about, say, &quot;The Corrections&quot;.  Same person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War Nerd is John Dolan.  Compare &#8220;Brecher&#8221;&#8217;s and Dolan&#8217;s prose styles.  They are identical.  &#8220;Brecher&#8221; talks about war the same way Dolan talks about, say, &#8220;The Corrections&#8221;.  Same person.</p>
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		<title>By: Sadly, No! &#187; Oh Yeah, Media Matters? Well, Have Some of This</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadly, No! &#187; Oh Yeah, Media Matters? Well, Have Some of This</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All right, Media Matters, I admit it. A clip and transcript of a wingnut who cites War Nerd, volunteers to give up everyone&#8217;s civil liberties, and accuses the press of stabbing us in the back, is pretty fucking impressive. It&#8217;s almost as good as your clip and transcript the other day of Bill O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s most hilariously explosive batshittery since he shattered poor C-SPAN&#8217;s fragile mics with a bellowing &#8220;SHuuuuuuuut upp!&#8221; directed at a stunned Al Franken. So yeah, Media Matters: big props. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] All right, Media Matters, I admit it. A clip and transcript of a wingnut who cites War Nerd, volunteers to give up everyone&#8217;s civil liberties, and accuses the press of stabbing us in the back, is pretty fucking impressive. It&#8217;s almost as good as your clip and transcript the other day of Bill O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s most hilariously explosive batshittery since he shattered poor C-SPAN&#8217;s fragile mics with a bellowing &#8220;SHuuuuuuuut upp!&#8221; directed at a stunned Al Franken. So yeah, Media Matters: big props. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait... Pinkerton isn&#039;t a parody?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230; Pinkerton isn&#8217;t a parody?</p>
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		<title>By: I.F. Thunder,Esq. (I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on the internets)</title>
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		<dc:creator>I.F. Thunder,Esq. (I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on the internets)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retardo, surely you&#039;re not insulting &lt;a href=&quot;http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2004_08_08_patriotboy_archive.html#109246154122390412/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
the General!!11!&lt;/a&gt;

P.S. &lt;a href=&quot;http://sadlyno.com/archives/002902.html/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Jeff Goldstein&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retardo, surely you&#8217;re not insulting <a href="http://patriotboy.blogspot.com/2004_08_08_patriotboy_archive.html#109246154122390412/" rel="nofollow"><br />
the General!!11!</a></p>
<p>P.S. <a href="http://sadlyno.com/archives/002902.html/" rel="nofollow"><br />
Jeff Goldstein</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vaughan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vaughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, and catch about &quot;War Nerd&quot;.  The photo looks an awful lot like the nerd character in the sit-com &quot;The Office&quot;. Clearly, this is rich parody. Check out the following text (From Montalbon&#039;s link above):

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The best war is when you can hate both sides, and that&#039;s how it was with the WTC. I cheered those jets. I work in like a ten-story version of those towers, and I know for a fact that I&#039;m not the only one who perks up every time a plane gets close to the building. Everybody cheers the planes now. Until those planes hit the WTC nobody dreamed you could knock down an American corporation building. Nobody ever thought one would come down. And when they did, damn! It was like the noche triste, when Aztecs made the Conquistadors bleed for the first time and said, &quot;Hey these aren&#039;t magic six-legged metal monsters, they&#039;re just a bunch of victims like us!&quot;&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, and catch about &#8220;War Nerd&#8221;.  The photo looks an awful lot like the nerd character in the sit-com &#8220;The Office&#8221;. Clearly, this is rich parody. Check out the following text (From Montalbon&#8217;s link above):</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The best war is when you can hate both sides, and that&#8217;s how it was with the WTC. I cheered those jets. I work in like a ten-story version of those towers, and I know for a fact that I&#8217;m not the only one who perks up every time a plane gets close to the building. Everybody cheers the planes now. Until those planes hit the WTC nobody dreamed you could knock down an American corporation building. Nobody ever thought one would come down. And when they did, damn! It was like the noche triste, when Aztecs made the Conquistadors bleed for the first time and said, &#8220;Hey these aren&#8217;t magic six-legged metal monsters, they&#8217;re just a bunch of victims like us!&#8221;"</i></p>
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		<title>By: Retardo Montalban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retardo Montalban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, War Nerd is sometimes sensible in the same way that Tony Clifton sometimes ripped into a truly snotty and deserving heckler. It doesn&#039;t take away from the fact that the general act is a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, War Nerd is sometimes sensible in the same way that Tony Clifton sometimes ripped into a truly snotty and deserving heckler. It doesn&#8217;t take away from the fact that the general act is a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Retardo Montalban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Retardo Montalban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one here hates War Nerd; we think he&#039;s hilarious. The point is that his is a schtick, a comedy schtick that is admittedly knowledgable with regard to historical fact but is also, obviously, depraved -- all of which is part of the joke.

War Nerd is a character. Think of him as the Tony Clifton of warbloggers. Now imagine if a music reviewer had seriously praised the &quot;real&quot; Tony Clifton&#039;s *singing ability*. That about the right analog to what Pinkerton has done with War Nerd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one here hates War Nerd; we think he&#8217;s hilarious. The point is that his is a schtick, a comedy schtick that is admittedly knowledgable with regard to historical fact but is also, obviously, depraved &#8212; all of which is part of the joke.</p>
<p>War Nerd is a character. Think of him as the Tony Clifton of warbloggers. Now imagine if a music reviewer had seriously praised the &#8220;real&#8221; Tony Clifton&#8217;s *singing ability*. That about the right analog to what Pinkerton has done with War Nerd.</p>
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