Comments on: This Had Better Not Be a Tease

By: ghosts of infamous sadly No trolls of yore

ghosts of infamous sadly No trolls of yore — Tue, 16 May 2006 06:40:40 +0000

Thanks, Marq. That makes three. Now we officially have a hat trick.

By: Marq

Marq — Mon, 15 May 2006 16:14:59 +0000

D’oh! I should really get in the habit of scrolling down to where I last visited S,N! and then read up. I posted a comment about this a thread-or-two up. Feh! I said what I wanted to up there, so I’m not gonna repeat it down here. I’m also gonna ignore Asshat 1 and Asshat 2, ‘cos that’s just crazy talk.

By: ghosts of infamous Sadly No Trolls of yore

ghosts of infamous Sadly No Trolls of yore — Mon, 15 May 2006 15:05:00 +0000

Haunt? Gary’s not a ghost. Unlike ghosts of infamous Sadly No Trolls of yore, who were mercilessly crucified here, he is very much alive and well at Sadly, No! He has the power to enlighten those of you who may be benighted, but lacks the power to haunt.

By: olexicon

olexicon — Mon, 15 May 2006 06:07:17 +0000

Gary

If Joe and Valerie wilson are not indicted on monday then you have to leave and never haunt sadily! No! again

By: Dumb Bell

Dumb Bell — Mon, 15 May 2006 04:08:19 +0000

Lying to a grand jury. ‘It’s all immaterial now.’ Plame planned her retirement party a long time ago. She could’nt use Joe enough and no one would leak her right(outing others).

Official A may be Plame. Dont’ be surprised if Plame is indicted on criminal conspiracy charges. This is what DOJ used to do with CIA agents.

By: mac

mac — Mon, 15 May 2006 04:08:13 +0000

How about them Yanks? Things don’t look good today, but it’s good to see them back in their rightful possession of First in the East!

By: mikey

mikey — Mon, 15 May 2006 03:46:51 +0000

I’ve always been particularly amused by this position that she was not a covert agent. Like they have any standing to make that determination. The CIA says she was covert, so she was covert. If you work at safeway and they say you’re a cashier, some asshat in Right Blogistan cannot decide that you are a stockboy. It is your employer who determines your status. And make no mistake, “covert” is a status. If the whole world knew you were an operator, and the agency said your status was covert operator, you would be a covert operator. This is amazingly simple, but the wingnuts have no problem overruling the CIA on the status of their own operator.

None of that even mentions that nobody has been charged with the crime of making a covert operator’s idenity public. The way the statute is written, it probably can never be used effectively to prosecute anyone.

But I recall when we were screaming that they were impeaching our presidend and overturning the will of the people for a BLOWJOB, they told us gazillion times that he was being impeached for lying, not for the act itself. So swallow your own logic, wingnuts. Rove is being indicted for lying and obstructing, not “outing” anybody.

mikey

By: g

Mon, 15 May 2006 03:09:09 +0000

The right has its talking points about the Wilson/Plame affair, some of which at least have logic behind them, such as the (false) claim that Plame wasn’t a covert agent, so outing her wasn’t a crime. But there are some really crazy talking points, which I honestly don’t understand.

First, if Plame did have a role in recommending Wilson for the trip, why is it supposed to be such a bad thing? One professional recommending another professional —even if related — for a duty that person is extraordinarily qualified for doesn’t seem like that bad a thing to me. Although in some circles the story goes that she got tired of her ne-er do well husband wasting his time around the house and decided to give him something to do — but that is so laughable it’s sitcom material, hardly worthy of consideration by anyone who’s the slightest bit acquainted with professional working couples.

Another talking point I’ve always thought was just flaming nuts — and Gary uses it above — is the idea that Rove deserves praise for outing Plame. First of all, if what she did was simply recommend her husband go on the trip, why is outing her as a CIA agent praiseworthy? Even in the sitcom scenario, what’s the big deal worth compromising a CIA agent?

And finally, how do they make the amazing leap over the chasm between truth and lies to conclude that Plame and Wilson “will be indicted?” What, if anything, is the crime? Contradicting the President?

By: blogenfreude

blogenfreude — Mon, 15 May 2006 02:23:37 +0000

Gary, Gary … even if outing Valerie wasn’t a crime, lying to a grand jury is! Taint the crime, it’s the coverup. And in Rove’s case, we’ll take whatever we get.

By: Harry Cheddar

Harry Cheddar — Mon, 15 May 2006 01:02:25 +0000

RLWPoTT? You also fergot teh funnee (a sin not even muthr can forgive).

By: retarded left-wing piece of trailer trash

retarded left-wing piece of trailer trash — Sun, 14 May 2006 23:21:26 +0000

oops, fergot the trailr inn trailr trash abuv. with out that trailr I’m nothinggg

By: retarded left-wing piece of trash

retarded left-wing piece of trash — Sun, 14 May 2006 23:14:57 +0000

beesides that itz muthrs day

happy muthrs day cuzz!!!! (yep my muthr iz my cuzzin Doez eny body hav a problm with thhat,

By: Dan Someone

Dan Someone — Sun, 14 May 2006 23:09:10 +0000

Much as I would like this to be true (as opposed to just truthy), I am concerned that there has been no hint of it in the major media for the nearly 24 hours since this item was posted. I suppose — and fervently hope — that Fitzgerald could be waiting for Monday and a more attentive news cycle. But until I see LGF trying to debunk the CBS report of this indictment, I’m going to remain VERY cautiously optimistic. (But note, still optimistic.)

By: retarded left-wing piece of trailer trash

retarded left-wing piece of trailer trash — Sun, 14 May 2006 22:50:35 +0000

yipEE! i’m gunna git mee a bottel of the besst bunes farm,

By: celticgirl

celticgirl — Sun, 14 May 2006 20:39:29 +0000

Wheeeeeee! Everyone gets a pony!

P.S. Can I start chanting “FROG-MARCH FROG-MARCH FROG-MARCH” now? Pretty please? I’ve been ever such a good girl!

By: Gary Ruppert

Gary Ruppert — Sun, 14 May 2006 17:24:06 +0000

Aw, Ma!

[door slams]

Sheesh.

[alt-tabs back to Barely Legal Muslim Teens]

By: Ma Ruppert

Ma Ruppert — Sun, 14 May 2006 16:11:52 +0000

That.is.IT! young man!

No phone, no wheels, and no Proactiv infomercials for one solid MONTH!

By: Miss Emily

Miss Emily — Sun, 14 May 2006 16:05:32 +0000

g and Gavin,

Yeah, Gary sounded almost creepy tonight, so I went back and…

His whole thesis is loosely hinged on this:

“Joe Wilson, who was in the process of writing an editorial, was concerned that the White House knew that his wife was behind sending him to Niger, so he told a few reporters about his wife with the hint of mentioning her to some White House officials as a way to test the water to see if she was known of by the White House.”

Now, we are talking about the Joe Wilson who was the US ambassador to Iraq when the (Desert Storm) shooting started.

I don’t have links or specifics right now, but by
ALL accounts he showed some courage.

So, Gary’s telling us that a brave man, w/ *years* of experience in the diplomatic corps, all of the sudden went all 7th grader on us and betrayed his own wife over an EDITORIAL!

Is that what you’re trying to tell us, Gary?

By: merlallen

merlallen — Sun, 14 May 2006 15:56:11 +0000

I had a hamburger for dinner.
Now, I’m smoking a bowl and drinking a beer.

By: JK47

JK47 — Sun, 14 May 2006 15:53:23 +0000

Gary Ruppert is the Baghdad Bob of Plameologists. “Karl Rove will never get indicted. If Joe Wilson isn’t indicted tomorrow, I will never come back here again.” The latter is actually a verbatim quote of Gary’s from Eschaton. Guess what? He still trolled there after the Libby indictment. He’s a dumbshit, but you have to admire his relentless optimism even in the face of the overwhelmingly devastating facts.

He’s gone from “Libby and Rove will never be indicted” to “the charges are trumped up” and “Fitzgerald is a liberal,” pretty fucking pathetic if you ask me. Rove is going down, biaaaatch.

This ought to linger like a nice, stinky fart for the rest of the election season. Good luck, ReThugs. You better steal this election good because the American people are itching for some congressional oversight. Lose the House and you are all fucked. Done. Ruined.