Dec
14

Uh, no




Posted at 22:03 by Brad

Jon Chait — who still owes the entire world an apology for supporting Joe Loserman back in 2006 when it was obvious to all involved that he’d lost whatever credibility he’d previously had as a Democrat — gives it the old college try and attempts to defend Loserman from charges of dishonesty. How does he do so, you ask? By claiming the poor Joe is just too principled and stupid to actually know what he’s talking about:

Understanding Joe Lieberman

I also think liberals, myself included, might be driving ourselves a little nuts trying to divine Lieberman’s motives. He keeps flip-flopping and explaining his shifts by making demonstrably false claims. What’s his game? Why does he keep saying these wrong, uninformed things?

I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart. He speaks, and seems to think, exclusively in terms of generalities and broad statements of principle. But there’s little evidence that he’s a sharp or clear thinker, and certainly no evidence that he knows or cares about the details of health care reform.

[...]

I suspect that Lieberman is the beneficiary, or possibly the victim, of a cultural stereotype that Jews are smart and good with numbers. Trust me, it’s not true. If Senator Smith from Idaho was angering Democrats by spewing uninformed platitudes, most liberals would deride him as an idiot. With Lieberman, we all suspect it’s part of a plan. I think he just has no idea what he’s talking about and doesn’t care to learn.

Uh, well, OK. I admit that Joe’s not the brightest senator I’ve ever seen. But at the same time, he’s pretty obviously trying to shaft over Democrats and kill health care reform outright. Yesterday Lieberman rejected a policy compromise on Medicare expansion that was actually less progressive than something he supported as recently as September. Greg Sargent, being the good gumshoe that he is, has obtained the damning video:

Now there’s dumb and then there’s duuuuu-huuuuu-huuuuuuumb. And while I’m more than willing to concede that Joe’s not that bright, he’s never struck me as the sort of person to inadvertently oppose a policy that he once supported a mere three months before. That’s a level of dumb that forces you to be fed with rubber safety forks and I’m pretty sure Joe isn’t that freaking stupid.

120 Comments »

  1. actor212 said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:08

    It’s easy to be hypocritical when you are supporting a position spoon-fed to you by those who own you.

    It’s like the quarterback who doesn’t call his own plays. You can’t expect him to get them right all the time.

  2. zombie rotten mcdonald said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:15

    I prefer Molly Ivins quote:

    “if his IQ slips any lower, he’ll have to be watered twice a day”

    Not saying that’s Holy Joe, necessarily, but I find it hard to argue with this:

    He speaks, and seems to think, exclusively in terms of generalities and broad statements of principle. But there’s little evidence that he’s a sharp or clear thinker,

    Although admittedly, it seems that there is a large, mean, bitter streak running through him also.

  3. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:17

    Chait is as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    He’s clearly smart enough to make a fool of you, Jon.

  4. noen said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:17

    That doesn’t even rise to the level of damming with faint praise. “Don’t mind my friend, he’s too fucking stupid to know what he’s doing.”

  5. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:18

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    Also FYWP

  6. Steerpike said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:20

    It’s like the old debate about W:

    Stupid, evil…evil, stupid…

    Wait! Who says he can’t be both!

    It’s a dessert topping and a floor wax!

  7. noen said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:20

    oh… is this a good time to recall that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama came to the aid of this walking abortion when his campaign was failing?

  8. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:21

    Hello? IS this thing on? Is anybody out there?

  9. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:21

    FYWP I DID NOT POST this comment. It’s NOT A DUPLICATE. FYWP

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    Also FYWP

  10. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:23

    FYWP FYWP FYWP

  11. actor212 said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:24

    is this a good time to recall that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama came to the aid of this walking abortion when his campaign was failing?

    Is there ever a bad time?

  12. actor212 said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:25

    Hey, PeeJ?

    PENIS

  13. Zifnab said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:27

    Trust me, it’s not true. If Senator Smith from Idaho was angering Democrats by spewing uninformed platitudes, most liberals would deride him as an idiot. With Lieberman, we all suspect it’s part of a plan. I think he just has no idea what he’s talking about and doesn’t care to learn.

    What the crap is he talking about?

    If this were a Senator from Idaho (say – one Larry Craig or one Mike Crapo – take your pick) voting against health reform because of ludicrous claims of death panels and creeping totalitarian socialism, we’d say he was an idiot because the claims are on their face idiotic. The legislation doesn’t convey the power they claim.

    If one claims the legislation will destroy the insurance industry or that it will bankrupt Medicare or that it will balloon the national debt, we’d say he is an idiot because there is no research outside the wingnut think tanks to support such a claim and a great deal of evidence to suggest the direct opposite.

    But he wouldn’t be idiots because he has “no idea what he’s talking about and doesn’t care to learn”, he’d be an idiot because he knows he is lying and doesn’t think he’s going to get caught.

    Lieberman, like his (not so hypothetical) Idaho counterparts, is lying and doesn’t think he’s going to get caught. But he caucuses with the Dem party, which makes him an idiot to be sure. But it makes him our idiot. And it starts raising alarms when we can’t keep our own idiots in line.

  14. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:27

    Testing 1 2 3 goddamn fucking wordpress

  15. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:27

    Let’s try this ONE MORE FUCKING TIME

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    Also FYWP

  16. Marion in Savannah said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:31

    “That’s a level of dumb that forces you to be fed with rubber safety forks.”

    That line is the only thing that could possibly redeem the inexpressibly hideous day I’ve had at work. Bless you, Brad.

  17. S. cerevisiae said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:31

    I still think he is one of the main reasons Gore lost in 2000. I hope the senate Dems have the stones to kick him out of the caucus.

  18. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:32

    FYWP FYWP FYWP

    Clearing cache, deleting cookies and restarting opera for every comment I want to make SUCKS FYWP FYWP FYWP

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    Also FYWP

    Also, for actor

  19. Felonious Monk said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:32

    I don’t think he’s stupid or sneaky. I just think that the health insurance industry has him by the balls and won’t let go.

  20. zombie rotten mcdonald said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:37

    Felonius, I also get the impression that he likes it that way. Both for the cash rewards, and…other reasons.

  21. laym said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:37

    It’s shocking that a man who supported McCain for the presidency last year, and who did not concede gracefully when he lost the support of CT Democratic primary voters, would now be opposing legislation by the Dem party in the Senate. And by shocking, I mean, not in the least bit surprising.

  22. zombie rotten mcdonald said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:40

    it seems to have surprised the hell out of the Village though.

    everybody else, not so much.

  23. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:41

    Can I try this one more fucking time? WordPress is very very angry with me, it seems. FYWP FYWP FYWP

    Clearing cache, deleting cookies and restarting opera for every comment I want to make SUCKS FYWP FYWP FYWP

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    Also FYWP

    Also, for actor

    Also FYWP

  24. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:41

    Why? Why does WordPress hate me?

  25. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:43

    I deleted the cookies. I cleared the disk cache. I rebooted. I used a different browser. And this enables me to make precisely ONE comment. Each time.

  26. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:44

    I’ve been trying to post this for half an hour.

    FYWP FYWP FYWP

    Clearing cache, deleting cookies and restarting opera for every comment I want to make SUCKS FYWP FYWP FYWP

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    Also FYWP

    Also, for actor

    Also FYWP

  27. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:46

    Chrome? Can you help me?

  28. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:46

    PENIS.

  29. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:48

    GODDAMN FUCKING WP FY FY FY FYWP

    Clearing cache, deleting cookies and restarting opera for every comment I want to make SUCKS FYWP FYWP FYWP

    Been trying to say this ever since their were only two comments.

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    Also FYWP

    Also, for actor

    A quick prayer to Murphy and……

  30. laym said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:48

    He speaks, and seems to think, exclusively in terms of generalities and broad statements of principle.

    And he gets a lot of calls from the Sunday morning teevee shows, who apparently seek out that kind of talkin’.

  31. Looch said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:49

    PENIS.

    “Sin Chew Daily”

    Heh.

  32. Scott said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:50

    What I wouldn’t give to get a personal one-on-one interview with Joe so I could ask him what the fuck.

    And then trank him, stuff him in a weighted sack, and dump him in the mid-Atlantic.

  33. actor212 said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:50

    I will support any healthcare package that allows me to euthanize my annoying relatives. Private, public, I don’t give a rat’s ass. My own health would vastly improve.

  34. Coach Urban Meyer said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:50

    Ding dong dilly, silly Sadlies, does Joltin’ Joe ever have you loony libs in a fever fit! Ya better believe that Da Cool Coach isn’t the only votin’ American who sees Lead-berman as the true post-partisan king of the Capitol Hill! It certainly ain’t your crazy crew- Obummer, Bummer Biden, Hitlery, Nancy Ped’oh!si, and Horrible Harry! You wanna rethink 2010, libs? Because with Joltin’ Joe leading the way, the GOP is ready to sack you sillies in a comeback attack! Badoodle-boo-yeah!

    Hear that? The SPREAD’s the WORD, libs. Urban out.

  35. actor212 said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:51

    “Sin Chew Daily”

    Heh.

    Totally staying away from the “Yellow River” By I P Freeley

  36. mary b said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:52

    “I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart. He speaks, and seems to think, exclusively in terms of generalities and broad statements of principle.”

    The operative words here are “seems to think”. The only thing Jowls Lieberman thinks about is all those Insurance Companies in CT who finance him at election time.
    He is another freakin corporate whore, like most of them, only he doesn’t even try to hide it.

  37. Substance McGravitas said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:52

    Ding dong dilly, silly Sadlies, does Joltin’ Joe ever have you loony libs in a fever fit!

    Now that’s something the JanusNode has a hard time pulling off.

  38. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:52

    Says a prayer to Murphy…..

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    Also FYWP

    Also, for actor

    </prayer>

  39. Willy said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:55

    I don’t know why the Dem caucus puts up with him. It’d make just as much sense to give a committee chairmanship to Boehner, as much help Lieberman is.

  40. not a gator said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:56

    Fuck off, Urban

  41. tigrismus said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:58

    Now that’s something the JanusNode has a hard time pulling off.

    Bang it with a hammer a couple times.

  42. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 22:58

    Yet another fucking test in my valiant but (so far) vain attempt to make one teeny tiny comment. If I don’t use the effwyedoubleupee maybe w_r_d_r_s_ will take pity on me.

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

    Also FYWP

    And this, for actor but naked due to the mystical nature of doubleupee thwarting me all morning. s3.amazonaws.com/ember/L0gC1NMY5MKIjQoGWUyKQUSDUurNFhTY_m.png

    please please please STOP THE TORTURE

  43. actor212 said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:01

    Bang it with a hammer a couple times.

    That’s what she said.

  44. laym said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:05

    Now that’s something the JanusNode has a hard time pulling off.

    Bang it with a hammer a couple times.

    Feed it a spread of truth.

  45. D.N. Nation said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:07

    OT-

    Glennzilla is (semi-)endorsing Jake “Dat Ass” Tapper for host of This Week.

    So, you know, I kinda won’t be taking Greenwald seriously much anymore.

  46. Whale Chowder said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:10

    That news story is straight out of The World According to Garp.

    Color (colour?) me dubious.

  47. N.C. said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:11

    Lieberman might’ve been a centrist or a Blue Dog or whatever at one time, but nowadays he’s running on pure spite. He isn’t even hiding it behind the excuse of being fiscally responsible or not wanting to move things too fast; he’s clearly just being a prissy primadonna to sate his own ego and get back at his colleagues who apparently didn’t bend over backwards quite enough for him.

  48. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:28

    POOP.

  49. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:28

    FYWP POOP

  50. Steerpike said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:34

    I don’t think “backward” is the way Lieberman wants his colleagues to bend over for him.

  51. N.C. said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:36

    He likes the dual teabag/fellatio combo. Saves time.

  52. actor212 said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:41

    I don’t think “backward” is the way Lieberman wants his colleagues to bend over for him.

    It fulfills his Vietnamese hooker fantasy.

  53. sarah said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:48

    the only redeeming thing about joe lieberman is that he reminds me so much of droopy dog, who is actually kind of cute as the bellhop in “who framed roger rabbit?” “nhyer fehloor, sir. heafve a ged dhay, sir.”

    other than that, i think he’s owned by the healthcare industry, powered by a volatile mixture of spite and ego, and not particularly the brightest congresscritter we’ve got. (but while we’re getting really specific about our diagnoses, i’ll assert that his corporate ownership, his spitefulness, and his massive ego each constitute individually sufficient reasons for him to be doing his part to ruin any chance at healthcare reform.

    ps: harry reid really needs to take his committee chair away. i don’t think he’s going to…but he really, really, really should.

  54. stogoe said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:49

    And then trank him, stuff him in a weighted sack, and dump him in the mid-Atlantic.

    Why not the icy waters of the North Atlantic?

    Also, Cut it out Peej. Also.

  55. PeeJ said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:49

    I’ve been trying to make this comment for well over an hour, fy very much wp.

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart.

    Either LIEberman is smart enough to make a fool of Chait or Chait is being as disingenuous as LIEberman.

  56. wiley said,

    December 14, 2009 at 23:52

    Raise your hand if you’ve been thinking that Lieberman must be real smart because he’s Jewish.

  57. tigrismus said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:00

    Bang it with a hammer a couple times.

    That’s what she said.

    Oh, did you also have “a hard time pulling it off?”

  58. actor212 said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:02

    Oh, did you also have “a hard time pulling it off?”

    It got all swolled.

  59. tigrismus said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:09

    Rest, ice, compression, elevation. ESPECIALLY ICE!

  60. actor212 said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:12

    It’s the compression bit that intrigues me.

  61. tigrismus said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:15

    Ace bandages? Or a wet suit, but only one unless you’re a preacher.

    Uh oh…

  62. actor212 said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:15

    I scuba dive, I’m allowed one.

  63. M. Bouffant said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:43

    “DIving for Dildoes,” f/ actor212.

  64. Whale Chowder said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:49

    “Rest, ice, compression, elevation. ESPECIALLY ICE!”

    Ideas, newsletter, you know the drill.

  65. kingubu said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:49

    DIving for Dildoes

    Obviously, Cousteau used a French Tickler.

  66. Rosebuddear said,

    December 15, 2009 at 0:58

    Always. ALWAYS. Trust. the Shorter.

    In the end, though, I can’t quite root for Lieberman to lose his primary. What’s holding me back is that the anti-Lieberman campaign has come to stand for much more than Lieberman’s sins. It’s a test of strength for the new breed of left-wing activists who are flexing their muscles within the party. These are exactly the sorts of fanatics who tore the party apart in the late 1960s and early 1970s

    I actually had a subscription to The New Republic in the early 2000s. It was exactly this kind of neocon drivel on the part of Jon Chait, Peter Beinart, and others of that ilk that had the nerve to call themselves Democrats that led to me cancelling my subscription and telling them to never darken my door again.

  67. gocart mozart said,

    December 15, 2009 at 1:06

    What primary will he lose: The lieberman for Lieberman Party? He is not a Democrat and his support among Connecticut democrats is shit.
    “Lieberman’s overall approval rating is 49%, with 44% disapproval. Among Republicans, his approval is 74%-20%, with Democrats against him by 31%-62%, and independents approving by 52%-40%.”
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/poll-connecticut-voters-see-lieberman-as-being-more-republican-than-democratic.php

    His only chance of winning reelection is as an independant in a three way race or as a Republican.

  68. J— said,

    December 15, 2009 at 1:19

    that Jews are smart and good with numbers

    And the shiksas flock to us. I know what Joe Lieberman suffers.

  69. Shorter Jon Chait said,

    December 15, 2009 at 2:07

    It’s not MY fault for helping re-elect Lieberman in the first place, it’s YOUR fault for being too anti-Semitic to realize Lieberman isn’t smart enough to remember what major domestic policy positions he took three months ago!

  70. Matt T. said,

    December 15, 2009 at 2:19

    One thing. I saw an interview with Urban Meyer just before UF got whipped by ‘Bama, and he did not say “ba-boodle” once nor did he mention Sarah Palin. I don’t know what to believe anymore.

    Second thing. Just saw on the toob that Dennis Miller is hosting the WWE “Slammie” Awards. It’d almost be worth watching for the comic mismatch, ’cause that’d be funnier than anything that comes out of Miller’s mouth.

  71. Xecky Gilchrist said,

    December 15, 2009 at 2:50

    It’d almost be worth watching for the comic mismatch, ’cause that’d be funnier than anything that comes out of Miller’s mouth.

    And best of all, you’d only have to watch for about 30 seconds to get the full effect of the comic mismatch.

  72. J— said,

    December 15, 2009 at 2:58

    Speaking of wrastling.

  73. Matt T. said,

    December 15, 2009 at 3:09

    From J— ‘s link, Jeff “Animal Mother” Goldstein:

    I’ve probably gotten into it with about a half dozen people over the years, some of whom if I ran into them in the street I would beat their ass without hesitation.

    And me, I READILY ADMIT TO THREATENING TO BEAT CERTAIN PEOPLE’S ASSES. And you know what? I’d still do it to most of them if we ever met up. So?

    Notice how he doesn’t say he has beaten deserving ass in his time, just that he’s willing if those miscreants ever are so unfortunate to cross his manly path. I’d be willing to be good money that this dingleberry has never, ever been in a physical confrontation of any kinds, much less beat anyone’s ass.

  74. Arky said,

    December 15, 2009 at 3:20

    I think one answer here is that Lieberman isn’t actually all that smart. He speaks, and seems to think, exclusively in terms of generalities and broad statements of principle. But there’s little evidence that he’s a sharp or clear thinker, and certainly no evidence that he knows or cares about the details of health care reform.

    Not smart, thinks in broad terms, can’t be bothered with the details. Hmmm.

    All we need is “Trusts his gut,” and we’ll have Gee Dubya Bush Bingo.

    Christ, these people tire me.

  75. POOP said,

    December 15, 2009 at 3:27

    This Jeff Goldstein?

    http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/06/hottest_new_media_guys_on_the.php

    My neighbor’s cat could take him.

  76. Mo's Bike Shop said,

    December 15, 2009 at 3:35

    Hmm. Little Boy Rustle has picked up on the video…

    http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/12/14/2151687.aspx

    I CAN HAZ YOUZFUL IDIOTS, ALX? FOR ELLEBBEN?

  77. Jennifer said,

    December 15, 2009 at 3:36

    Speaking of POOP, as I commented over at TPM earlier today:

    Didn’t I hear that Conrad Burns suffered a stroke the other day? If he can’t be in the Senate, doesn’t that change the math for cloture votes? And if so…

    Maybe the way to get a good health care bill through the Senate is to engage in some biological warfare, infecting a few people like Lieberman with some agent that will cause violent illness for a week or so…while they’re out, pass the damn bill. My vote would be for an agent that causes explosive diarrhea, so Joe can have the shit shooting out of both ends for a while.

  78. Daphne Chyprious said,

    December 15, 2009 at 3:43

    seems to me the writer assumes the reader isn’t that bright and doesn’t know what he or she is talking about, and doesn’t care to learn but take Chait’s word for it.

  79. Substance McGravitas said,

    December 15, 2009 at 4:29

    Didn’t I hear that Conrad Burns suffered a stroke the other day? If he can’t be in the Senate, doesn’t that change the math for cloture votes?

    Conrad Burns was defeated by Jon Tester.

  80. N__B said,

    December 15, 2009 at 4:39

    Conrad Burns was defeated by Jon Tester.

    Before or after the stroke?

  81. The Tragically Flip said,

    December 15, 2009 at 4:39

    Also, cloture requires 60 affirmative votes. The 40 filibusterers don’t matter, they don’t even have to vote, 59-0 is a failure to invoke cloture.

    That was part of the deal struck when it changed from 2/3 “present and voting” to 3/5 “duly chosen and sworn” in the 70s.

  82. N__B said,

    December 15, 2009 at 4:42

    when it changed from 2/3 “present and voting” to 3/5 “duly chosen and sworn” in the 70s.

    We need to change it to “a majority present and breathing.”

  83. PeeJ said,

    December 15, 2009 at 4:44

    Haven’t looked in here in hours. Lemmee guess: It’s the Joe LIEberman show.

  84. Poor Cock Sucker said,

    December 15, 2009 at 4:44

    Just consider, idiot Loserman looked like Einstein correcting doddering old fool McCain on the campaign trail last year (in the few moments when his head was extracted from Lindsay Graham’s crotch).

    This is what your tax money pays for – short bus riders escorting dementia patients.

  85. Substance McGravitas said,

    December 15, 2009 at 5:03

    PENIS for PeeJ.

  86. Substance McGravitas said,

    December 15, 2009 at 5:03

    FYWP.

  87. Dorothy said,

    December 15, 2009 at 5:03

    Best suggestion for dealing with Joe the Chummer was here:

    If he were doing this kind of thing and weren’t a senator, there’d be a pretty clear case for a conservatorship and perhaps involuntary commitment. He apparently can’t remember statements he made in public only a few days or weeks ago, his behavior has become erratic…

    See, Joe’s not a bitter, vindictive, narcissistic asshole with low self-esteem and an even lower ethical standard: he’s just getting senile!

  88. jim said,

    December 15, 2009 at 5:04

    Evil, yes … but stupid?

    I can think of no better indicator of foolishness than being able to campaign for one party, then get the other party to let you keep your high-prestige cabinet portfolio in their new government when the candidate you shilled for loses – even while you’re helping their opponents to slap around one of their core initiatives in public … yeah, what a buffoon!

    He’ll be pimping a tell-all book just like Palin once he finally loses his seat – & given that there were enough bipedal grommets walking around unsupervised to re-elect him, I’m betting it’ll make him some sweet lettuce too.

  89. Substance McGravitas said,

    December 15, 2009 at 6:08

    Thanks to the comment releasing fairies!

  90. Obama & Clinton said,

    December 15, 2009 at 6:20

    Aww, I say we give Joe one more chance.

  91. M. Bouffant said,

    December 15, 2009 at 6:20

    This is what your tax money pays for – short bus riders escorting dementia patients.

    No, it’s not our tax money that’s to blame, it is WE, who elect sacks of shit like Holy Joe, Closet-case Graham & John Sidney III. Shame on all of you.

  92. M. Bouffant said,

    December 15, 2009 at 6:23

    Thanks to the comment releasing fairies!.

    I am NAH GUNNA go back up there & look!

  93. Mo's Bike Shop said,

    December 15, 2009 at 6:46

    Thanks to the comment releasing fairies ferrets!.

    Fxrd for Great RIM!

  94. Nom de Plume said,

    December 15, 2009 at 6:57

    He keeps flip-flopping and explaining his shifts by making demonstrably false claims. What’s his game?

    Umm…I’m gonna make a really big leap here…

    My answer is…he’s flip-flopping and making demonstrably false claims.

    It’s not often that I wish harm on fellow human beings. But I’ll just say that if Joe Lieberman were to develop, say, pancreatic cancer…well, I’ll just say that I wouldn’t cry a whole lot.

  95. uberuber said,

    December 15, 2009 at 6:57

    I suppose it would be indelicate of me to imagine, with a slight smile, Lieberman being ‘Berlusconi’d’ right about now?

  96. Knights in Black Satin said,

    December 15, 2009 at 7:01

    Pretty good photoshop of Lieberman over at Firedog Lake.

  97. justme said,

    December 15, 2009 at 7:10

    Hmmm.

    Something something something, rusty Garden Weasel, something.

  98. justme said,

    December 15, 2009 at 7:11

    fywp

  99. Nom de Plume said,

    December 15, 2009 at 7:11

    who still owes the entire world an apology for supporting Joe Loserman back in 2006 when it was obvious to all involved that he’d lost whatever credibility he’d previously had as a Democrat

    You know, there were those of us who realized all of the above back in 2000. But…

    Aw, screw it…I’m simply not willing to have that argument again. I hated Joe Lieberman’s lying fucking ass back in November of 2000, which is why I voted against him then. I continue to be thankful to this day that I never cast a vote for him. My conscience is clear. As for the rest of you, I’ll leave it to you to sort it out for yourselves. After all, things would have been so much better if he’d been the Vice President…

  100. Knights in Black Satin said,

    December 15, 2009 at 7:12

    In the 2000 election I checked out Lieberman’s voting record as compared to Cheney’s, and Liberman’s was really quite liberal and reasonable. Something… twisted… him inside, maybe loosing the election, although he conceded early on, didn’t he? I think his support of McCain was a vain hope that Lieberman would be VP. I smirk at the picture of his ugly face when Sarah Palin was chosen. What a slap in the face! And no one deserved it more than Lieberman.

  101. justme said,

    December 15, 2009 at 7:18

    Once more.

    Blah blah blah, Garden Weasel, blah blah blah.

    So, he’s still “With us on everything but the war” I see.

    feh

  102. Gary Ruppert said,

    December 15, 2009 at 7:34

    Don’t worry DKos Dems, if you just keep supporting Obama and Harry Reid, eventually they’re gonna take you seriously and not treat you like the fringe lepers that you are.

    The fact is that Republicans will take back both houses in 2010, and we’re taking back the White House in 2012

  103. LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL said,

    December 15, 2009 at 7:40

    BOOKMARK IT!!!!!!!!!

  104. God's Fire said,

    December 15, 2009 at 7:46

    Hi vulgar socialists. Closed-mindedness is all you can hope for, you decrepit bitches!

  105. M. Bouffant said,

    December 15, 2009 at 8:11

    Still too literate. You gotta work some humerus misspellings in there.

    Sorry, I meant humourous.

  106. stibbert said,

    December 15, 2009 at 8:16

    or, mebbe, humorless. or mechanical.

  107. Porlock Junior said,

    December 15, 2009 at 8:22

    @Shorter Jon Chait:
    I do believe the shorter, I DO I DO believe the shorter.

  108. Lesley said,

    December 15, 2009 at 8:55

    Joe’s a Republicrud, so why doesn’t he cross the floor already and get it over with.

  109. Jennifer said,

    December 15, 2009 at 9:16

    I wonder if we could get that chick from the overstock.com commercials to do a voice-loop saying “it’s all about the Joe”, and then run it in ads inciting Lieberman hatred. I can hear it now: “Lieberman is blocking health care reform for every person in America because he’s got an axe to grind with the people who are most supportive of it. Never mind that 45,000 people die from lack of insurance coverage each year. Never mind that a million Americans go bankrupt every year because of medical expenses. Never mind that we pay more and get less coverage than citizens in every other country. Because when it comes to health care reform, just like in the Lieberman for Lieberman Party, it’s all about the Joe.”

    Not that anything like public pressure could change the spiteful little troll’s mind about fucking over everyone in the country. At this point, just pissing him off would make me feel better.

  110. Prospero said,

    December 15, 2009 at 11:26

    Seriously, why do I even care. I don’t live in the US and never going too. And still I read this blog and Balloon Juice every damn day, even though most of the stuff I read about here just pisses me off enormously >.<

  111. xxx said,

    December 15, 2009 at 12:57

    He is dumb – but he is AIPAC’s favorite dumb Senator, which means he has considerable standing despite his obvious failings.

    the game is rigged – (you) we always lose

  112. Major Kong said,

    December 15, 2009 at 13:03

    Joe’s a Republicrud, so why doesn’t he cross the floor already and get it over with.

    I doubt he could pass the new GOP purity test. Even Joe’s not batshit crazy enough for them right now.

  113. Ted the Slacker said,

    December 15, 2009 at 13:14

    Even Joe’s not batshit crazy enough for them right now.

    Yeah but he’s a big enough asshole to fit right in.

  114. DAS said,

    December 15, 2009 at 15:07

    He speaks, and seems to think, exclusively in terms of generalities and broad statements of principle.

    This is why the media loves them some holy Joe. I remember when I was (as an undergrad) trying to get on the staff of my university newspaper, I wrote an article about a one-off event and the editor insisted that the even was the “first annual” [X] because if it wasn’t going to be weekly or monthly, etc., it would be annually. News-types lurve to think in tropes.

    And Joe “thinks” like one of them.

    *

    Meanwhile the genius 11-dimensional chess players on Team Obama are gonna sign into law a bill that 53% of people oppose even though health care reform was popular before the wanker caucus got to it. And the wanker caucus and their allies in the so-called liberal media say that ‘Murka is a center-right nation and moderation is politically advisable to appeal to the hoi polloi?

    Well, “moderation in all things” is a trope, ain’t it?

  115. actor212 said,

    December 15, 2009 at 15:26

    “DIving for Dildoes,” f/ actor212.

    Sure would explain all those “sea slugs” I keep leaving behind.

  116. actor212 said,

    December 15, 2009 at 15:27

    I suppose it would be indelicate of me to imagine, with a slight smile, Lieberman being ‘Berlusconi’d’ right about now?

    Only with a ninja throwing star.

    With frikkin’ lasers.

  117. actor212 said,

    December 15, 2009 at 15:29

    Notice how he doesn’t say he has beaten deserving ass in his time, just that he’s willing if those miscreants ever are so unfortunate to cross his manly path.

    I’m tempted to go in there, incite him to threaten me, then make a point of standing on his front doorstep.

  118. jaf said,

    December 15, 2009 at 21:57

    Please no one forget that Obama actively supported Lieberman and bears responsibility for this debacle.

  119. King said,

    October 28, 2012 at 22:30

    Is Joe Lieberman a real cocksucker?

  120. King said,

    October 28, 2012 at 22:32

    I have no respect for this men. He will never remember as a good senator or good American citizen.

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