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		<title>By: Tommy Yum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy Yum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 11:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Osama reads Kos then surely the NSA has his fucking IP address.  If that&#039;s the case, and he&#039;s still at large, then the question must be asked:

Why does the NSA hate America?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Osama reads Kos then surely the NSA has his fucking IP address.  If that&#8217;s the case, and he&#8217;s still at large, then the question must be asked:</p>
<p>Why does the NSA hate America?</p>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2682.html/comment-page-1#comment-51289</link>
		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 10:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that&#039;s unfair, who; it&#039;s not only the affirmative action hires who are second- or third-rates intellects at the Hoover Institute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s unfair, who; it&#8217;s not only the affirmative action hires who are second- or third-rates intellects at the Hoover Institute.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2682.html/comment-page-1#comment-51288</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 10:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else notice that Steele used the word &quot;stigmatization&quot; with regard to the Abu Ghraib scandal, without being aware that the tortured detainees *may very well have had nails driven through their hands* ?  &quot;Stigmata-&quot;-ization my ass.  I mean, the most iconic image of Abu Ghraib et al was of a hooded figure forced to remain in a crucifix-like pose.  ?!Stigmatization?!  

Of course, Steele is only following British Lord George when he refused to agree to the early 20th century suggested ban on aerial bombardment as a cruel and inhuman weapon, in particular the British penchant to bomb Iraqi tribesmen:

&quot;I reserve the right...to bomb n***ers,&quot; said Lord George.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else notice that Steele used the word &#8220;stigmatization&#8221; with regard to the Abu Ghraib scandal, without being aware that the tortured detainees *may very well have had nails driven through their hands* ?  &#8220;Stigmata-&#8221;-ization my ass.  I mean, the most iconic image of Abu Ghraib et al was of a hooded figure forced to remain in a crucifix-like pose.  ?!Stigmatization?!  </p>
<p>Of course, Steele is only following British Lord George when he refused to agree to the early 20th century suggested ban on aerial bombardment as a cruel and inhuman weapon, in particular the British penchant to bomb Iraqi tribesmen:</p>
<p>&#8220;I reserve the right&#8230;to bomb n***ers,&#8221; said Lord George.</p>
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		<title>By: elendil</title>
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		<dc:creator>elendil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 10:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;a proper response to a &quot;moral accusation&quot; is to either (1) act morally, or (2) defend our actions as moral, with a clear, coherent, and well reasoned argument.&lt;/i&gt;

Pfft, that sounds like work. I think we should all save ourselves a lot of trouble and take a tip from Gary&#039;s method. (3) pretend you didn&#039;t hear the moral accusation, ignore the inner voice whispering &quot;hypocrite&quot;, and regurgitate some more talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>a proper response to a &#8220;moral accusation&#8221; is to either (1) act morally, or (2) defend our actions as moral, with a clear, coherent, and well reasoned argument.</i></p>
<p>Pfft, that sounds like work. I think we should all save ourselves a lot of trouble and take a tip from Gary&#8217;s method. (3) pretend you didn&#8217;t hear the moral accusation, ignore the inner voice whispering &#8220;hypocrite&#8221;, and regurgitate some more talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: who</title>
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		<dc:creator>who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 10:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that all the affirmative action hires at the Hoover Institute universally loathe the reason they actually have their jobs (or any job requiring only the output of their second and third-rate intellects)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that all the affirmative action hires at the Hoover Institute universally loathe the reason they actually have their jobs (or any job requiring only the output of their second and third-rate intellects)?</p>
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		<title>By: pessullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>pessullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 09:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does he have a mirror? He looks like one of the nonwhites.

I think maybe he&#039;s talking about his own &quot;White guilt&quot;. Like feeling guilty he&#039;s not white maybe?

Whatever....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does he have a mirror? He looks like one of the nonwhites.</p>
<p>I think maybe he&#8217;s talking about his own &#8220;White guilt&#8221;. Like feeling guilty he&#8217;s not white maybe?</p>
<p>Whatever&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: elendil</title>
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		<dc:creator>elendil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 08:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We have been too gentle with the enemy in this war.&lt;/i&gt;

Hi Gary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We have been too gentle with the enemy in this war.</i></p>
<p>Hi Gary!</p>
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		<title>By: Tulkinghorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tulkinghorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 07:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[i]Actually, it was David Lloyd George.[/i]

I stand corrected.  And thank you for not mentioning the splt infinitive.  I get carried away sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[i]Actually, it was David Lloyd George.[/i]</p>
<p>I stand corrected.  And thank you for not mentioning the splt infinitive.  I get carried away sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: e_five</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 05:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll bet if he just scrubbed a little harder, that hideous tint would come right out of that inferior skin like magic!  In the meantime, it&#039;s Selfloathingpalooza!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bet if he just scrubbed a little harder, that hideous tint would come right out of that inferior skin like magic!  In the meantime, it&#8217;s Selfloathingpalooza!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Major Woody</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2682.html/comment-page-1#comment-51281</link>
		<dc:creator>Major Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 04:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Osama on DKos? He goes by the handle Armando. I thought everybody knew that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Osama on DKos? He goes by the handle Armando. I thought everybody knew that.</p>
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		<title>By: Demogenes Aristophanes</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2682.html/comment-page-1#comment-51280</link>
		<dc:creator>Demogenes Aristophanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 04:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;And Churchill was just demanding the right to &quot;bomb the niggers&quot;, not to necessarily kill them.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, it was David Lloyd George.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And Churchill was just demanding the right to &#8220;bomb the niggers&#8221;, not to necessarily kill them.</i></p>
<p>Actually, it was David Lloyd George.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 03:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;have very little defense against the moral accusations that come from their own left wings and from those vast stretches of nonwhite humanity &lt;/i&gt;

 see I tend to think that a proper response to a &quot;moral accusation&quot; is to either (1) act morally, or (2) defend our actions as moral, with a clear, coherent, and well reasoned argument.

 I do not think that the proper response to a moral accusation is to say &quot;whites are supreme&quot; and then bomb a bunch of non-white people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>have very little defense against the moral accusations that come from their own left wings and from those vast stretches of nonwhite humanity </i></p>
<p> see I tend to think that a proper response to a &#8220;moral accusation&#8221; is to either (1) act morally, or (2) defend our actions as moral, with a clear, coherent, and well reasoned argument.</p>
<p> I do not think that the proper response to a moral accusation is to say &#8220;whites are supreme&#8221; and then bomb a bunch of non-white people.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuckles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 03:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard Shelby Steele give a speech in Madison in 98 about reparations and affirmative action.  Then he sounded like Malcolm X and was advocating a kind of GI bill for the disenfranchised.

This op-ed, however, is very disappointing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Shelby Steele give a speech in Madison in 98 about reparations and affirmative action.  Then he sounded like Malcolm X and was advocating a kind of GI bill for the disenfranchised.</p>
<p>This op-ed, however, is very disappointing.</p>
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		<title>By: C.I. Dreyfus</title>
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		<dc:creator>C.I. Dreyfus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 03:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and is also a furry.

Now that is truly disturbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and is also a furry.</p>
<p>Now that is truly disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt T.</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2682.html/comment-page-1#comment-51276</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 03:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, I don&#039;t even read DailyKos. Say, Gary, how do you know what websites Osama Bin Laden checks out on a daily basis. You sure seem to know a lot about his likes and dislikes. Why am I suddenly getting the mental image of a notebook covered with scribblings that say &quot;Mrs. Gary Bin Laden&quot;...

 Anyhow, Brother David Neiwert over at Orcinus has an awesome post on this topic, and particularly obliterates Steele&#039;s ludicrous idea that advocates of white supremacy &quot;don&#039;t exist&quot; in modern America. Go read it, is good stuff. I&#039;d post a link, but that&#039;s how life goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, I don&#8217;t even read DailyKos. Say, Gary, how do you know what websites Osama Bin Laden checks out on a daily basis. You sure seem to know a lot about his likes and dislikes. Why am I suddenly getting the mental image of a notebook covered with scribblings that say &#8220;Mrs. Gary Bin Laden&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p> Anyhow, Brother David Neiwert over at Orcinus has an awesome post on this topic, and particularly obliterates Steele&#8217;s ludicrous idea that advocates of white supremacy &#8220;don&#8217;t exist&#8221; in modern America. Go read it, is good stuff. I&#8217;d post a link, but that&#8217;s how life goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2682.html/comment-page-1#comment-51275</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 03:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Shelby misses is that certain American minds are not simply the construct of racist ugliness, but are in fact the cause and breeding ground of such ideas.

How do people like this get accepted by editors?!  Sometimes I feel like giving up my journalism major; I&#039;m obviously not crazy enough to ever get my own column nor am I sufficiently, intellectually dim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Shelby misses is that certain American minds are not simply the construct of racist ugliness, but are in fact the cause and breeding ground of such ideas.</p>
<p>How do people like this get accepted by editors?!  Sometimes I feel like giving up my journalism major; I&#8217;m obviously not crazy enough to ever get my own column nor am I sufficiently, intellectually dim.</p>
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		<title>By: BrooklynRaider</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrooklynRaider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 03:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...and is also a furry.&lt;/i&gt;

Well &lt;i&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; got to be why we couldn&#039;t find him!  We&#039;ve just got to look for the dude in the rabbit suit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;and is also a furry.</i></p>
<p>Well <i>that&#8217;s</i> got to be why we couldn&#8217;t find him!  We&#8217;ve just got to look for the dude in the rabbit suit.</p>
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		<title>By: Laser Potato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laser Potato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 02:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear he also plays Neopets every day and watches Eastenders on his 40&quot; flat-screen plasma TV. He also listens to the Beatles, is an environmentalist, is a vegetarian, supports gun control, and is also a furry.

.....Gimmie a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear he also plays Neopets every day and watches Eastenders on his 40&#8243; flat-screen plasma TV. He also listens to the Beatles, is an environmentalist, is a vegetarian, supports gun control, and is also a furry.</p>
<p>&#8230;..Gimmie a break.</p>
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		<title>By: GTR</title>
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		<dc:creator>GTR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 02:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Meanwhile in other news, Osama bin Laden reads DailyKos:...
...&quot;from various left-wing blogs&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Hot damn! I&#039;m not DKos, for sure, but this certainly explains who&#039;s been visiting me from Dubai, UAE.  Thanks for the heads up, Gare-bear.

***psst, guys, he&#039;s over &lt;em&gt;there&lt;/em&gt;***</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Meanwhile in other news, Osama bin Laden reads DailyKos:&#8230;<br />
&#8230;&#8221;from various left-wing blogs&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Hot damn! I&#8217;m not DKos, for sure, but this certainly explains who&#8217;s been visiting me from Dubai, UAE.  Thanks for the heads up, Gare-bear.</p>
<p>***psst, guys, he&#8217;s over <em>there</em>***</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 01:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The left emboldens the enemy like this all the time.&lt;/i&gt;

Ring Ring

Hello, this is mikey.

Mikey?  al-Zarqawi here.  Got a minute?

Umm, sure.  Brownies come out of the oven in 15 minutes, so sure.  What&#039;s on your mind?

Well, here&#039;s the thing.  This whole insurgency thing?  I&#039;m REALLY having second thoughts.  Y&#039;know, it just drags on and on how do I really know if we&#039;re doing any good...??

Listen, abu-musab.  Stop...Listen to me.  I know, there, there.  Now listen.  It&#039;s like I&#039;ve told you so many times.  You just need to be &lt;i&gt;Emboldened&lt;/i&gt;, y&#039;know?  You&#039;re in a tough struggle, and it&#039;s understandable that you&#039;d lose your nerve from time to time.

Oh, mikey, you&#039;re right.  I feel so...Emboldened.  Talking to someone in America on the left always does that for me.  I&#039;m ready to go fight on.

Hey, listen A-M.  Anytimne you need a little support, you know you can get it from American Liberals, right?  

Thank you, mikey.  Goodbye.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The left emboldens the enemy like this all the time.</i></p>
<p>Ring Ring</p>
<p>Hello, this is mikey.</p>
<p>Mikey?  al-Zarqawi here.  Got a minute?</p>
<p>Umm, sure.  Brownies come out of the oven in 15 minutes, so sure.  What&#8217;s on your mind?</p>
<p>Well, here&#8217;s the thing.  This whole insurgency thing?  I&#8217;m REALLY having second thoughts.  Y&#8217;know, it just drags on and on how do I really know if we&#8217;re doing any good&#8230;??</p>
<p>Listen, abu-musab.  Stop&#8230;Listen to me.  I know, there, there.  Now listen.  It&#8217;s like I&#8217;ve told you so many times.  You just need to be <i>Emboldened</i>, y&#8217;know?  You&#8217;re in a tough struggle, and it&#8217;s understandable that you&#8217;d lose your nerve from time to time.</p>
<p>Oh, mikey, you&#8217;re right.  I feel so&#8230;Emboldened.  Talking to someone in America on the left always does that for me.  I&#8217;m ready to go fight on.</p>
<p>Hey, listen A-M.  Anytimne you need a little support, you know you can get it from American Liberals, right?  </p>
<p>Thank you, mikey.  Goodbye.</p>
<p>mikey</p>
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