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‘Scuse Mah Figyahs!
Lately the IGMFU crowd on health care reform has been engaged in a curious exercise, arguing that actually 10 million, not 50 million, people in the United States are uninsured. Apparently, from their point of view, 10 million people without insurance isn’t so bad. Of course, it’s sort of an argument that comes around and bites them in the ass because it also demonstrates that insuring the uninsured won’t cost eleventy billion trillion dollars.
Not being one to leave any wingnut meme unturned, we have Paul Mirengoff, Akin Gump’s worst* lawyer, trying to subtract some folks from the number of uninsured:
The fourth group, another 10 million, earns an income more than three times the poverty line. As such, they can afford to buy medical insurance. Taxpayers should not be required to buy it for them.
Clearly this skidmark on the underpants of the universe, who probably can’t tell you the price of a gallon of milk without consulting Peapod first, hasn’t a clue as to what the poverty line is if he thinks that those folks can buy individual insurance. For a single individual that figure in 2009 was $10,830. So, doing the math, Mirengoff says that an individual making $32,490 can afford individual health insurance which, these figures show, costs $3600 per year, not counting deductibles which averaged $2,000. Sure, these guys can just ditch the Beemers that they’re driving and then health insurance, and a bag of chips, is all theirs.
Of course there’s just a teensy, weensy little problem that Morongoff, comfortably ensconced in his law firm’s group health policy, doesn’t take into account. Even assuming that somebody making $32,490 could afford insurance, it’s one thing to be able to afford and another thing to be able to buy. A certain number of these people will have pre-existing conditions or have other risk factors which will make it impossible for them to obtain insurance at any cost. And even if they can get insurance, they risk cancellation once they actually get sick.
They just don’t make loathsome lawyers like they make them at Powerline, do they?
g said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:00
Equally, the argument that OHMIGOD! 47 million people are going to be in my doctor’s waiting room!!!!! is stupid. It’s like they think the minute the bill passes, everyone’s going to get an appointment that week.
47 million people will be insured, so that they can get an appointment with a doctor WHEN THEY NEED IT. As opposed to taking their kids to the emergency room for an ear infection. (which, oddly, I don’t see them griping about. Ever spend 8 hours in an urgent-care waiting room for a non-life-threatening broken arm? This is why.)
noen said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:08
Frist! Oh…. I guess that makes me number two.
Galactic Dustbin said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:14
I have a friend of a friend who’s main problem with health care reform is that his father in law had to wait in offices for his medicare treatments and that many of the health care professionals working for the government have accents of some sort.
pedestrian said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:20
And keep in mind that being uninsured is not the same as having to pay (or pay much) for treatment. I’ve heard illegal immigrants say that they find ways to receive free or inexpensive treatment for themselves and their children. In general, I’ve read (though I can’t find the source) that the uninsured receive about half the amount of money per capita to pay for medical treatment that the insured receive.
Si, si, the doctor behind the refreegerator feexed my wife for a leetle cervesa. Only the messicans can see him though, I theeenk….
mmy said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:24
While not technically correct, I think “IGMFU” crowd rolls off the tongue much better.
[Tintin adds: Agreed. Fixed.]
Jacob Singer said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:30
Speaking as someone who does, indeed, make around 32k a year, there’s no way in hell I can afford to by health insurance, and I don’t even have a car payment to make.
PeeJ of PENIS said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:36
That is the best actual, unretouched totally 100% true photo of MiredGoniff I have ever seen. I pity the photographer, very very much.
pedestrian said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:39
Seriously, the bit about “illegals” having secret access to cheap health care really pisses me off. I spent a few years living with the people that he’s talking about, and health care is no picnic. Mostly you go without. Sometimes you go to the emergency room. There are some clinics set up to help low-income people and you don’t always have to be a citizen, but these are too few and far between. Besides, it is very hard to keep a job and go to the doctor. You don’t exactly get the benefit of our generous labor laws.
I have known people to try to get smuggled back to their own countries, which provide fucking health care, then try to come back. Of course, then you run the risk of being detained in a prison camp, deported, or killed. Those lucky duckies, not knowing whether grandma is living or dead.
Jennifer said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:40
Shithouse Troll hits the BIG TIME!!! Awright!!
Citizen_X said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:41
“I’ve heard illegal immigrants say”
Oh, fuck you, you’ve heard illegal immigrants say. What, did they just happen to stop you on the street corner and talk about all teh free helfkare they get cuz their Meskin, and “Oh, by the way, Seenyor, I am an illegal alien, si”?
Something tells me it was actually some third-hand bullshit some Dittohead wrote on some Reichwing blog, and Mirengoff is helpfully passing it along.
Of course, he’s a licensed corporate lawyer in DC. This does not mean that he’s part of the corporate Beltway parasite class, oh no. It means he’s actually licensed to lecture us all on what TEH HEARTLAND is all about.
R. Porrofatto said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:43
Boy, I have no idea where these USA Today average premiums exist. Here in NYC*, my insurer, Oxford (which is on the lower end of the scale), charges $11,490 per year for individual HMO coverage, and $17,508 individual POS coverage. For families, it’s $34,464 and $52,548 per year respectively. A household income of $32k a year here would require you to borrow and extra couple of K just to cover the family premiums. (And lest anyone think this is only New York City, it’s pretty much the same across the state.)
* http://www.ins.state.ny.us/hmorates/html/hmokings.htm
Pere Ubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:44
OH LAWDY NOT ACCENTS! AIIIIIEEEE SHANIA LAW IS PON US
…and why the fuck can’t I copy & paste text all of a sudden? I SWEAR.
Bitter Scribe said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:45
I’ve heard illegal immigrants say that they find ways to receive free or inexpensive treatment for themselves and their children.
Yeah, and my uncle Louie heard welfare queens aruging over which model Cadillac is the best. It was streaming audio through the website that Ronald Reagan maintains in his brain. That is, until they upped his meds.
In general, I’ve read (though I can’t find the source) that the uninsured receive about half the amount of money per capita to pay for medical treatment that the insured receive.
In general, I’ve read (although I can’t find the source) that you pull your “facts” out of your pimpled butt.
Pere Ubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:47
I’ve heard illegal immigrants say that they find ways to receive free or inexpensive treatment for themselves and their children.
“Oh, yeah, Pedro, I goes to d’ pharmacy and asks d’ doctor there what to do! Eeet’s cheap!”
Speedy Knows EVERYBODY'S Seester said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:51
In Meheeco, we nevaar have to wait for de medecene. Paging Dr. Speedy Gonzalez, Dr. Speedy Gonzalez to de white cooortesy phone!
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:52
Tintin, here’s some screencaps from the next issue of Harper’s.
This reminds me of the real estate bustout, for which we’ll all be paying forever. (But the John and Jane Gaults responsible all paid themselves up front.)
P.S. I got my screencaps from teh Great Gazoogle, it’s not sold in stores until August 29.
PeeJ of PENIS said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:53
You stupid libs just don’t get it. The fact is, PelosiCare is all about using OUR TAX DOLLARS to give illegal immigrants full treatments at Hair Club for Men. Hair is a finite resource – if they give it to the illegals, there won’t be any for me.
LittlePig said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:53
See what you’ve unleashed?
TRUTH FREEDOM POWER said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:55
Last week I was waiting in line at the doctor’s office, and this big family of illegal mexicans was called ahead of me. All they had to do was show their mexican passports and it was free gender reassignment surgery for the lot of them. It must be worse in California.
Jennifer said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:56
See what you’ve unleashed?
I couldn’t be prouder.
Shithouse Troll and Sadly, No! toilet-themed photoshops – two great tastes that taste great together!
PeeJ of PENIS said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:57
Also, Nick Jonas intends to run for President in 2040. Also.
Sirius Lunacy said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:58
I’ve heard illegal immigrants say something in a language I don’t understand that I will translate to mean they find ways to receive free or inexpensive treatment for themselves and their children. Because shut up, that’s why.
PeeJ of PENIS said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:59
I’m wearing my emergency backup glasses this morning which may explain why I read two great testes that taste great together!
Or maybe it’s all in my head.
Pere Ubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 18:59
All they had to do was show their mexican passports and it was free gender reassignment surgery for the lot of them.
Of course, they were there to renew a prescription, but hey, you gonna argue with the doctor?
After the Revolution, of course, we’ll just need to show our Number O’ Teh Beast Happy Purchase Tattoo to get treated.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:01
Hair is a finite resource – if they give it to the illegals, there won’t be any for me.
The gubermint can’t give hair to anyone without taking hair from someone else.
Sirius Lunacy said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:03
“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of hair” -Joe the Plunger
SomeNYGuy said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:06
See what you’ve unleashed?
Shouldn’t that be “See what you’ve unflushed?”
Pere Ubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:07
Hair is a finite resource
A limited good, particularly on my head.
I’ve known a few people who could supply an almost infinite amount of back hair, though.
Arky - Geek God said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:07
Uh. Yeah. “It’s not that bad and really it’s just a few dead beats and cheapskates” was the same “argument” these knobs trotted out when they could no longer ignore the housing crisis.
SomeNYGuy said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:09
Hair is migratory.
I have the same amount of hair I had 30 years ago; it just moved from the top of my head to my ass and my ears.
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:13
Or maybe it’s all in my head.
You have testes IN YOUR HEAD??!?
you should see a doctor about that.
Maybe they haven’t descended yet.
Pere Ubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:34
You have testes IN YOUR HEAD??!?
you should see a doctor about that.
He could get them reassigned for free if he was Mexican.
N__B said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:37
“The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of hair” -Joe the Plugger
Fiqqst.
Snarla said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:42
Dirty stinkin’ foreigners crossing the border without any papers of any kind, using up the healthcare that our taxes pay for…http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090526140844.htm
Nearly One Million Californians Seek Medical Care In Mexico Annually
Mo's BIke Shop said,
August 15, 2009 at 19:46
I noticed earler in the week that the toothless crowd had grabbed hold of the talking point that all the uninsured were illegal aliens. I figure Paul is just trying to smarten up this meme until it’s stupid enough to be used on TeeVee.
Comrade Rutherford said,
August 15, 2009 at 20:03
I haven’t had insurance snce I was 18. I’m now 43, married with three children and I feel lucky to make a whopping $36K.
Even if I could afford a family policy (which as pointed out above would take my entire year’s income), the deductible is still 2 month’s income. So even if I could afford to buy insurance, I’d never be able to use it. I’d still have to pay $430 out of pocket when my daughter dislocated her elbow.
Paul Mirengoff is an anti-American, lying, pile of shit.
owlbear1 said,
August 15, 2009 at 20:03
“If you have what I have then what I have is worthless!”
A sense of self-worth that comes from within versus a sense of self-worth coming from external measurements.
I think this one of the fundamental differences in worldview this debate has highlighted.
The “Liberal” says, “With the wealth I’ve acquired I can ease the burden of others and my actions reinforce my sense of self-worth.
The “Conservative” replies, “The fact they are suffering reinforces my sense of self-worth.
Morgue Hustler says, “If everyone has health insurance then I will lose that as a special status to count as a symbol of my worthiness!”
Meanwhile, a Lawyer spews a string of bullshit to explain why the working poor don’t deserve any of his hard earned paycheck.
Anyway, I think the primary difference in world views is that internal versus external measuring stick.
Which makes me think. If we just sent out gold-leafed certificates (suitable for framing) that praises and congratulates the “Conservative” for being such an important blessing to society we’d have very few of them whining about their taxes.
Then again if every conservative is getting a gold-leafed certificate then it really isn’t worth anything at all, is it?
owlbear1 said,
August 15, 2009 at 20:14
I wonder if some action shots of the Gipper will get them on-board health-care reform? Add a provision to the bill that anyone can request a framed picture of Ronald Reagan once a year?
With today’s tech I bet we could even have Ronnie shaking the conservative taxpayer’s hand?
Maybe it can be scaled on how much taxes they pay?
From just a face shot all the way to a hug! What better way to demonstrate your worth to the USA?
justme said,
August 15, 2009 at 20:23
And above it all, according to that article,
Yep, we get to pay for their bad bets. Suck it, American public.
Also, yeah, those estimates are lowwwwww. Three bills a month won’t get you much around these parts. Those are ‘07 figYAHs, though. Adding in the >20% per year rate hikes might bring them closer to reality.
The Tragically Flip said,
August 15, 2009 at 20:36
Still nothing beats the wingnut in the wheelchair having his lawyer ask the wingnut crowd for donations for his medical bills because he is uninsured.
It’s really hard not to post an image macro of the asian guy from UHF saying “You’re sooo STUPID!” to that one.
Knights in White Satin said,
August 15, 2009 at 20:47
“I’ve heard illegal immigrants say that they find ways to receive free or inexpensive treatment for themselves and their children.”
Well, sure: we’re seeing FREE medical care in action right now in L.A. Those lucky lucky poor people!
cyntax said,
August 15, 2009 at 20:47
I wonder if some action shots of the Gipper will get them on-board health-care reform?
Maybe just some choice quotes from back when he was a union member in Holllywood would get them on board:
“Before the Gipper had his FU money, he was a pro-union, socializing healthcare kinda guy. Check out his views on…”
jurassicpork said,
August 15, 2009 at 21:17
“(T)he mobs and their mentality, for want of a better word, that have almost completely dominated the national debate over health care tend to resemble in their collective mindless mania that obstreperous Rottweiler, one who’s barely worth the trouble he causes but still loved by the family, acting out when he recognizes the all-too familiar route and realizes that Daddy’s driving him to the vet.”
Jennifer said,
August 15, 2009 at 21:39
Caption for that photo:
“Every time I try to get out, they keep pulling me back in!” (say it with a mobster voice)
mark f said,
August 15, 2009 at 21:56
And now we have John Hinderaker arguing that it should be illegal for you employer to offer insurance.
Pere Ubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:10
I’ve heard illegal immigrants say that they find ways to receive free or inexpensive treatment for themselves and their children.
So, um, what’s all the nubbub, bub?
If they’re already getting coverage for free…
oh, never mind. It makes sense only if you’re fucking insane. The rest of us? Not so much.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:10
You can lead John Hinderaker to single-payer, but you can’t make him think.
~
Pere Ubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:15
And that Assrocket column – oy gevalt (or should that be “oy goGalt?):
If an employee changes jobs, the consequence may be a change in insurance companies. A condition that was covered under the old plan is preexisting from the standpoint of his new carrier. Unlike my plaintiff who regretted his decision not to buy insurance on his building, the employee who changes jobs is entirely blameless and didn’t set out to assume a risk.
Why, that Assrocket! Such cleverness!
You know what else would make just as much sense? If we passed legislation that nobody could ever change employers!
*sigh*
henry lewis said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:16
From just a face shot all the way to a hug!
Why stop at a hug? Think what they’d pay for a chance to blow St. Ronnie.
itwasntme said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:17
I think this kind of reasoning put forth in articles is a great sign – wingers are trying to come to grips with facts. Anybody who reads this reasoning will be putting himself through the math and coming up with a more realistic picture of how it rally is for a lot of people. This moran is trying to find a way not to feel like the shitheel he is.
FAIL.
Pere Ubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:21
Wait, now that I think about it, CloacaMissle has a great idea.
Public policy arguements as a standup routine!
“And “life” insurance -” *does the finger quotes* “-what’s up with THAT, huh? You’re not insuring your life, after all! Why, death is a pre-existing condition, after all!”
Pere Ubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:22
From just a face shot
Veiled necro-bukkake reference?
N__B said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:28
CloacaMissle
Wouldn’t Suppository be easier to use?
N__B said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:29
In a verbal sense…
The Truthful Problem With The White House said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:33
Please don’t mock shithouse troll… I’m actually very worried for him in fact. Does anyone know if they’ve let The Troof out of his Volkswagon Beetle yet? It must be hellish being trapped inside your car, knowing your life is over because you gave into your rage, dragged yourself out of your own shit house and started making threats towards the White House instead. Troofus, call us, please? We’ll even laugh as you shout “Fuck you, stop posting on Sadly No!” down the phone… just let us know you haven’t died in a hail of bullets yet, like we always feared you would!
Ole said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:36
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=54162036
That’s just fucking wrong in so many senses of the word.
El Cid said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:42
Considering that everyone is able to afford a package of bandaids or visit a public library with internet access to search WebMD, it may be said that we have 100% medical coverage in the USA.
pedestrian said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:44
Soaring college tuition costs are a result of the democratization of education. The best way for the government to reform education would be to ban need-based scholarships.
Also, we need a maximum wage, because you can’t find good help these days. Unfortunately, we are stuck with a democratic system, so it probably won’t happen… for now.
who is willie gault? said,
August 15, 2009 at 22:54
mark f, I thought you were kidding.
Yes, that’s right. Obama has driven them all so crazy they’re now arguing that the solution to the health care crisis is to raise taxes on small businesses.
How do we get to an efficient market for peanut butter sandwiches? Costco, which has nearly destroyed the individual-serving peanut butter market by selling giant jars of it at low cost, is a central culprit. Only by outlawing big jars of peanut butter can we make the price of peanut butter sandwiches come down.
Sometimes you just gotta keep reminding yourself that they were almost this stupid before the election, too.
El Cid said,
August 15, 2009 at 23:03
The problem with our tax system is that we punish people for what they have earned, when we could be punishing them for failing to earn more.
N__B said,
August 15, 2009 at 23:07
The problem with our tax system is that we punish people for what they have earned, when we could be punishing them for failing to earn more.
Who needs a carrot? A stick and a bigger stick!
kingubu said,
August 15, 2009 at 23:09
Shorter Cloaca: Since the whole point of insurance is to spread the risks/costs across the largest possible pool, the obvious answer is to turn everybody into a Pool Of One.
Stupid or dishonest; its so hard to tell, sometimes.
El Cid said,
August 15, 2009 at 23:17
In fact, we should probably be moving more to an entirely punishment-based economy and revenue cycle, since we’ve pretty much given up employing all but a tiny sector in U.S. manufacturing.
And punishment would be easily available for lower educated and lower skilled workers.
N__B said,
August 15, 2009 at 23:19
And punishment would be easily available for lower educated and lower skilled workers.
Punishment is fungible, too. Why bother finding out who made a mistake in your firm? Just beat the person nearest you.
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days said,
August 15, 2009 at 23:23
Stupid or dishonest; its so hard to tell, sometimes.
Why make it a binary question? Occam’s Razor and all that.
Or, Bill Murray.
Phil: You wanna throw up here, or you wanna throw up in the car?
Ralph: I think… both. (Pronounced, “Boaf.”)
M. Bouffant said,
August 15, 2009 at 23:32
I wonder if some action shots of the Gipper will get them on-board health-care reform? Add a provision to the bill that anyone can request a framed picture of Ronald Reagan once a year?
Probably not. Happened to tune into Sean Hannity on the radio yesterday (It’s the station that carries the Brooklyn Bums of Los Angeles games, & I’m sticking to that story.) & the S.O.B. was playing some anti “socialist medicine” speech of Reagan’s (probably dates from the mid-’60s & the attempt to provide health care for our older citizens). Yes, they still hate Medicare, because, as we all know, as soon as it was passed the U. S. elected Socialist presidential candidate Norman Thomas, who promptly surrendered to the Soviet Russians. Most of you remember that, right?
“I want my Medicare & I don’t want the gov’t. to have anything to do with it!!”
I hear much more crap like that & I am absolutely going to start a “free-market” Death Panel. The best thing is, the old, infirm & fascist won’t have to show up to defend themselves. We’ll make all their decisions for them, & then we’ll show up at their house w/ some leftover Quaaludes® & a big fluffy pillow. Some will deserve a more public departure, however.
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:04
Punishment is fungible, too. Why bother finding out who made a mistake in your firm? Just beat the person nearest you.
Are you my old boss?
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:08
Are you my old boss?
I don’t know. Have I beaten you?
M. Bouffant said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:19
Uh, actually, one of the (many) reasons health insurance sucks is that your employer (remember, pre-WWII health insurance offered & subsidized by employers pretty much didn’t exist) & the insurance co. make deals w/ each other that keep you, the wage slave, from enjoying any benefits of free-market competition between ins. cos. Most get a choice of two or three differently-priced plans from one insurer through their employer (if ins. is offered at all). Where’s the fucking choice in that?
Separating insurance coverage from employment is an important step in getting mandatory free gay abortions for all! Of course, I’d rather see it done w/ single-payer (And we may be lucky just to get some “public option” out of all this hideous non-stop shite.) but getting your boss out of it is a good idea. If you do lose your servitude, change plantations or what-have-you, either gummint subsidies (as part of unemployment, say) or regulation requiring the insurers to cut your premiums by the percentage difference between job & unemployment for a reasonable period, if you want to pick nits. COBRA that people can afford.
And then, if we could get the profit motive out of defense contracting (Where is their PATRIOTISM?) we’d be a hell of a lot farther on our way to being a “civilized” nation.
M. Bouffant said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:21
Is everybody playing outside like Mommy told them to?
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:33
Hair is a finite resource
It is also fungible, which sounds better than ‘dandruff’.
OT — I have to say that these Vancoubans do a good Zombie Walk.
It said ZOMBIE WALK.
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:37
Wouldn’t Suppository be easier to use?
I was under the impression that the Suppository was the room you use when you want to make stuff up. It appears that the Frau Doktorin has been misleading me all these years.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:43
I was under the impression that the Suppository was the room you use when you want to make stuff up.
Only if you sleep in a Repository.
Sheesh said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:47
Hair is a finite resource – if they give it to the illegals, there won’t be any for me.
Need I say that hair is theft?
But speaking of uncoupling insurance from employment… can you believe Frum was making the same argument on Moyer’s last night?! Wingnuts can learn!
Major Kong said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:50
Is everybody playing outside like Mommy told them to?
I tripped over the cat while going down the stairs yesterday. I don’t think anything’s broken but I’m not getting around too well today.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:51
Need I say that hair is theft?
Only if there’s profit involved. A hair net, one might say.
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:54
Is that woven on a hairloom?
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:56
There’s a hairpoon joke waiting there but I’m too tired to make it.
pedestrian said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:57
Barbery is theft.
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:58
Only if you sleep in a Repository.
When I am feeling particularly hopeless about the state of the world, I go to my Disparity.
Smart and lazy Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:59
Barbery is
theftpiracy.FTFY
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 0:59
I go to my Disparity.
Too many steps to go up to your Hilarity?
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:00
Barbery is theft piracy.
Hanna-Barbery is theft of brain cells.
M. Bouffant, a tad cynical, said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:00
Aaaah, Frum is just trying to position himself to be a “reasonable” voice after the first “right-wing extremist” who can be directly linked to birther/bagging activities kills someone or bombs a free clinic in the name of healthcare freedom & property rights.
pedestrian said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:08
Barbery is
theftpiracy.I know, I download all my haircuts online now.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:11
I download all my haircuts
Less chance of viruses if you uploaded excess hair instead.
justme said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:12
Left alone, it might be gross.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:13
A gross of hairs is pretty slim pickings.
Vizzini said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:14
Too many steps to go up to your Hilarity?
STOP RHYMING!
justme said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:15
Especially if they’re nose hairs.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:17
STOP RHYMING!
Chill out. The rime will then appear naturally.
pedestrian said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:18
A gross of hairs is pretty slim pickings.
If you are talking about my nose, I use tweezers. It’s still gross, but less so.
Arky - Geek God said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:24
You mean this.
It ended with this famous quote:
Arky - Geek God said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:26
FYWP!
This.
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:30
Hell, I’ll even give him credit on the illegals thing and assume it’s not from the same rectal cavity all other conservative “facts” are from. I have a friend who became an illegal citizen thanks to Bush’s “reforms” and the damn quota systems we still have on immigrants from Asia. In order to survive in this country and avoid being sent on a death sentence back to China (she’s queer and political) she had to form connections through the underground service of pro bono volunteers and lawyers who essentially try and help the illegals find basic employment, housing, and oh yes medical services usually through free clinics and volunteer organizations. She tends to get suicidally depressed, but there’s no way to really get a regular psychologist or even top up anti-depressants easily even if she could afford it.
It’s a very common story to anyone who’s ever been uninsured in the daily life with the added caveat of now when you go to the hospital and guarantee bankruptcy and debt-slavery, you also need to pre-meditate a friendly hospital that will treat you in the first place rather than denying care until you’re cleared by INS or deported.
Fun times.
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:35
Also, free sex changes…Sigh. Yeah, conservative scare tactic fuckers, rub it in my face that in a year when I’d likely be going through with that procedure I’ll be leaving behind my perfectly free Danish health insurance that fully covers the procedure and coming back to an American system that even if we get lucky and still have a public option will cover laughter-induced hernias before anything related to those evil trans-peoples. No really, I’m looking forward to a trip to Thailand and dropping a year’s wages. It’s a small price to pay for some tax-dodging fucker’s NIMBY syndrome.
On the other hand, I do believe I’d like my tax money back for all of their wars of choice, wingnut welfare programs, and subsidization of corporations and religions in order to pay it out of pocket.
Tintin said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:39
When we have free health care here, I can finally get my AIDS treated.
Wunderkind said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:44
You Americans are the stupidest fucking people on Earth.
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:47
The fear that undocumented aliens are going to get some medical care they didn’t pay for is nothing new. I’ve been hearing for years about how illegals are sucking up all our Medicaid. Which is, of course, complete horseshit but to those competing with illegals for work, it’s just another example of how “liberals” are holding them down. Never mind that it’s their Republican-supporting boss/master/owner who is hiring illegals and giving them a reason to come here in the first place. No, they’re all flocking here to soak up all the fabulous free medical treatment we’re giving away. There’s a corollary to this of course, which is, “these illegals are getting all this free medical care while my insurance company is screwing me out of my house by refusing to cover treatment.” And this, too, is all the fault of the liberals, for giving away all that free health care to illegals when we could spend that money giving free health care to rednecks instead. Except, when we try to give it to them, they start screeching about socialism and death panels and insist that a system in which their insurance company fucks them out of their home and life savings is the “best health care system in the world” except, of course, if a few brown people get treatment they don’t pay for. If we could just fix that bug, everything would be fine with the way things are now.
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:54
Tintin-
Hopefully soon otherwise it’ll transform into Supergay AIDS and that shit causes you to run secret Death Panels that only target the special needs props, i mean children of popular swimsuit pinups, I mean wingnut jesus icons of extra jesusyness.
And then where will literally hundreds of pathetic wingnuts get their daily supply of starbursts. Where Tintin? Where???
islmfaoscist said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:55
Morongo’s cited source:
Mirengoff’s cited source relies on 2007 US Census data for this claim. Inconveniently for his talking point, it turns out there are other (more recent!) studies that don’t rely at all on 2007 US Census data.
What do these studies show? Surely there must be waaaaay less than 46 million of us, right? Sadly, no!
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:58
Jennifer-
Well that cleared it up for me.
Can’t we just skip ahead and send a chain email to the wingnuts saying that if they can pass a bill giving everyone free health care then liberals will cry because it’ll keep rednecks alive longer and with fuller, bigger erections?
I’m reminded how many people are still alive who said back in the 60s “I may be lower than shit, but at least I’m better than the negroes”. Southern peasant syndrome.
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:59
The fact is, PelosiCare is all about using OUR TAX DOLLARS to give illegal immigrants full treatments at Hair Club for Men. Hair is a finite resource – if they give it to the illegals, there won’t be any for me.
WOLVERINES!!11!!NAKED MOLE RATS!!1!!!!I’m wearing my emergency backup glasses this morning which may explain why I read two great testes that taste great together!
Teabagger!
The Fool said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:59
Tintin should have asked The Fool how to attract women, along with some much needed sex ed. Then perhaps Tintin would not have been so desperate as to agree to be fucked in the ass by a tranny streetwalker, thus contracting his AIDS.
The Fool said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:02
The Fool thinks Jennifer would make much more sense if she had The Fool’s cock in her mouth. Then Jennifer’s prattle wouldn’t be so annoying.
bildoreilly said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:16
Mo’s BIke Shop said,
What they also babble about is something that stems from an analysis of the 2007 census by the Kaiser Foundation. It found that of the 46 million uninsured people in America, 9.7 million are non-citizens. That includes all legal residents and presumably illegal immigrants, though I find it hard to believe that many illegal immigrants are going to participate in any census.
But it’s more than enough for the teabaggers to twist into something like ‘12 million of the 46 million uninsured are illegal immigrants11!!!.’
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:19
Not that she needs the help or anything…
But Jennifer stopped chewing on pens and #2 pencils back when she was in grade school. She broke the habit and doesn’t strike me as someone who would backslide or anything. You’re out of luck, Slim.
g said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:24
Separating insurance coverage from employment is an important step in getting mandatory free gay abortions for all! Of course, I’d rather see it done w/ single-payer (And we may be lucky just to get some “public option” out of all this hideous non-stop shite.) but getting your boss out of it is a good idea.
Tying health insurance to employment is an obsolete concept, born from a temporary situation (post-war wage freezes, so employers offered bennies instead) and it’s ludicrous to keep it going. If whatever proposal we get starts to loosen these ties, so much the better.
My coworker recently suffered a traffic accident that had her out for six weeks, with a broken pelvis. Because she was a recent hire, her saved up sick-leave and vacation time was minimal, and she went through it in the first two weeks. Now, even though she was still an employee, if she took “time off without pay” our employer’s HR policies also doesn’t pay your benefits – health coverage or retirement or any other bennies. Fortunately we have a policy in place where you can donate your leave to your co-workers, and she was well-liked, so she managed to stay on the payroll and keep her insurance.
But can you imagine? She needed a walker, a wheelchair, physical therapy, etc – and right at the absolute worst time, she could have lost her health insurance coverage.
Ironically, we have really great coverage. But she would have lost it, because it was all tied into her earnings.
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:29
Laughing. And pointing.
M. Bouffant said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:31
Good spotting, Arky. I haven’t the stamina to click & listen, but I’m sure it was the same one.
They haven’t learned a damn thing in almost 50 yrs., have they? “Facts be damned, full bull ahead!!”
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:31
Tying health insurance to employment is an obsolete concept, born from a temporary situation (post-war wage freezes, so employers offered bennies instead) and it’s ludicrous to keep it going. If whatever proposal we get starts to loosen these ties, so much the better.
A national health plan would be the best thing to happen to small businesspeople, freelancers, independent contractors/consultants, et al. Of course, this is a major reason the rightards oppose it- it would give too much freedom to Joe/Jane Schmo, and give them less incentive to work as intentured servants.
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:38
B4 – I’ve been going on for months about how the Dems are stupid to leave that talking point on the table – you know, the one about how the current system of employer-provided insurance is an unconscienable burden on the free market, restricting as it does entrepreneurship and the free movement of labor. Though I’m sure most teabaggers consider the latter to be a feature, rather than a bug, since it’s never occured to them that “labor” includes themselves.
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:41
Well, at least one of
Sybill’sTroofie’s personalities is back. Don’t tell the one that ran away like a little bitch yesterday, Foolie!g said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:50
The Fool WOULD think that.
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:51
I seriously expect a “Medicare for All” movement to get started pretty soon. It’s simple, easy to understand, and it’ll fit on a sign. If a few thousand people get out carrying signs like that every weekend, it might even get some media coverage. Nobody could talk about an imaginary 1000-page bill that “nobody had read.” The law’s already on the books–just take out one line about age qualifications, and Bob’s your uncle.
If I thought it would do any good here in the Soviet Republic of Washington, I’d start it! At least I don’t think we have too many people here (outside of Eastern Washington) dumb enough to say: “Keep the gummint out of my Medicare!”
SomeNYGuy said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:55
Bob’s your uncle.
All the more reason he should stop touching me in inappropriate places.
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days said,
August 16, 2009 at 2:58
I seriously expect a “Medicare for All” movement to get started pretty soon. It’s simple, easy to understand, and it’ll fit on a sign.
On the money. It asserts an existing reality and expands it. And times have changed. It’s not just old folks that have a hard time making ends meet and that element of the message has to possess broad appeal. “Times are hard? Things tight? Here’s a little bit of help.”
You could get elected with that kind of talk.
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:00
Actually Bob’s my brother-in-law.
And also, the number one choice of NW Territories inhabitants as the official name for their home when they were considering making it a province, or something of the like. Maybe some of you Canuckistanis can set me straight – I seem to recall that the re-naming did occur, though the powers-that-be selected a more dignified type name for the are than “Bob”.
I know, my ignorance over Canadian domestic affairs is shocking & etc. But I do remember the whole “Bob” controversy some years past. Either that, or I’m insane.
Crissa said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:01
Yep, someone making 3x the national poverty level ($30K per person) living in a rich state could pay $2,000 anum for health insurance to have a $3K deductible (1/10 their gross income!) for insurance that leaves you holding 40% the cost of any procedures (like emergencies!) and… Doesn’t let you choose your doctor or hospital.
Terrif! Might I point out that in that rich state said person is also paying $12K per anum to rent the smallest available living space, 10% of any money they spend on sales tax, and I don’t even want to introduce you to the grocery or transportation bill.
Ugh. These guys make me sick.
Pere Ubu said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:04
All the more reason he should stop touching me in inappropriate places.
I thought that was Uncle Ernie.
Pere Ubu said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:05
*sigh*
The idiot son is back. Time to kill the fatted guinea pig.
Your Banhammer is Impotent said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:05
*yawns*
Still here. You guys are slow.
Tintin said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:07
I get so excited at the mere thought of TF. Oh God….I think I just came.
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:08
I watched The Last Indian again the other day–I think that’s where “Bob’s your uncle” came from. The mind is a strange contraption!
Crissa said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:09
Question… How would a tax credit for individual plans make them magically cheaper than employer’s plans? Individual plan cost > employer plan cost – before you put in the taxes.
By the way, the rules change Bush put in at the end of last year – charging employers taxes on plans covering people in the worker’s household not immediately related like your spouse’s children or your parents or inlaws or ‘uncle’ Joe who took care of you like his own blood or same-sex couples or whatever – is costing us another $3K in taxes this year, you know, just to cover me, spouse.
Tintin said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:09
I haven’t blown a load that big since my uncle raped me!
Tintin said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:11
The only guys I get to fuck now are those that have a fetish for getting AIDS. It kind of limits my options.
Crissa said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:15
The argument about Medicaid underreporting is also specious – Medicaid is great once you’ve applied and been approved. But even if you qualify at first glance, you have to apply and be granted it. So it’s not like insurance at all, something you can depend upon, because you have to qualify.
You could be denied because maybe they think you being out of work for two years isn’t enough or some relative makes too much money or your roommate might make too much money or you had this part-time job…
So saying they might qualify for Medicaid is not the same as having insurance or even Medicaid at all.
Up-on-the-Backstroke said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:18
[Redacted re: posted no-asshole policy. No buts! (as it were)]
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:37
No point in psychoanalyzing trolls, but Andrea Dworkin caught a lot of flak for a rather accurate assessment on her part, that to a certain class of male, sex is seen as a tool by which to punish or attack women. That sex in general is a weapon to be used against the feminine in a rape-like manner in hopes of beating down the other sex.
Unfortunately, in the fullness of time, it seems this type of male is stuck. The world more and more is coming to realize that most everyone likes consensual sex, women included and more importantly, many many men recognize consent and pleasure and see these as good things for they and their partners to have in sexual congress.
Indeed this is spilling over into other arenas. Lack of obsession in punishing sluts is increasing public support of reproductive freedom in the concrete if not fully in the abstract and greater and greater support of consensual sexual freedom which includes homosexuality, transsexuality, and of course BDSM and fetish.
And while those who use sex and sexual innuendo as harassment as tools to threaten women with the rape culture are still yet coddled, I suspect they are noticing that the tide is slowly turning against them and every decade or so, less people are as viscerally invested in protecting against examination of said rape culture.
Sadly for our troll, the statue on general acceptance of his level of harassment has long ran out and so he’s left curled up in front of his computer weeping as he paints a tiny eyes and mustache on his hand so it looks more like a real person as he once again succumbs to the forbidden temptations of the naughty soldiers all-male porn site.
And yet he hasn’t given up hope that said shame will disappear if he can just latch onto a woman, even online and make her cry with his penis weapon or somehow lessen the manliness of another man by turning him into that most hated of creatures a woman. If he can just manage it, then maybe he can make his downward spiral a race to the bottom.
And maybe just maybe he’ll solicit a response other than the slow shaking head of piteous laughter and mockery. And maybe just maybe, even if he could succeed, if he’s really lucky and does his homework.
It’ll matter.
El Cid said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:38
Tell me, when Obama finally passes the 2009 Giant Black Erection Health Care Reform and Intimidation of Small Dicked Southern White Conservative “Don’t Kill Sarah Palin’s Retarded Baby” Fucktard Act, how much whining are we going to have to endure from the sullen, defeated rightards?
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:41
2009 Giant Black Erection Health Care Reform and Intimidation of Small Dicked Southern White Conservative “Don’t Kill Sarah Palin’s Retarded Baby” Fucktard Act
That won’t fit in the allocated space in the Congressional Record. It will be published as the 2009 GBEHCRISDSWCDKSPRBF Act.
M. Bouffant said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:46
How much whining are we going to have to endure?
Well, the torture never stops, but I, for one, should be able to put up w/ all their whining if the Big Black Stiffy Act of 2009 goes through.
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:46
I’m more curious about where else they can go. It’s only summer of his first year in office and they’ve already single-handedly reformed the image of communism so that most of the youth are considering a good idea. They’re currently overusing Hitler to the point of completely immunizing people to the shock value of the comparison. They’ve even already started on the random violence and the open calls for assassination.
At this rate, they’ll be firing a gun like Camancho wildly into the air at the start of all their speeches.
I wonder how long until even our lapdog media is tired of them. Well we could report on Senator Asshole calling Obama a pedophile and the physical embodiment of Satan, but we’ve been covering that angle for the last two months, it’s getting old.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:48
I’m more curious about where else they can go.
They can kill people, as they have in the past. And then wring their hands, blame us and lone gunmen, and talk about sexual purity for teenagers.
M. Bouffant said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:48
Maybe the Congreƒs should pull a reverse Terry Schiavo & pass a special law just to kill ‘Tard Palin. You think the other ‘tards would get the irony?
M. Bouffant said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:53
At this rate, they’ll be firing a gun like Camancho wildly into the air at the start of all their speeches.
Dunno who “Camancho” is (I could look it up, sure, & I could give a fuck too. Except I don’t.) but it wouldn’t surprise me much if they ran Yosemite Sam for President. He’d fire ‘em up on the stump!
Sam/Sarah 2012!! “Kill all the
Injunsniggers!”Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:56
Dear Troll,
That was awesome.
For why that was the most hilarious thing ever, I urge you to google:
1)Asexuality
2)Transwoman
3)Dating the psuedo-mythical hot bi poly chick
And what’s worse, she’s totally going to waste because of 1).
Love,
Cerberus’s Future Vagina
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:56
I’m a thirty five year old virgin who couldn’t get a woman’s socks off…
I think this explains why you’re still a virgin, Troofus. You don’t put it in the place the socks cover.
…if I tried.
Further explanation. Though it is hard to understand why the women don’t come looking for you and trying to strip you down. But I can understand why you’ve given up trying…I’m sure it was a puzzling experience for you that time you did manage to get the socks off and couldn’t figure out where you were supposed to put it.
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 3:59
Oh and I sure do hope your statement comes true, thanks to the scare tactics of the conservatives the surgery is less likely to be covered by the public option than any other procedure known to man including abortions, so it’d save me a shit-ton of money if I could just pontificate for an hour or two instead to get it. I could put up a sign, will feminazi for sex change and gay abortion.
Side note, I actually was more radical of a feminazi back when I thought I was a guy. Crazy, huh?
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:02
M. Bouffant-
It’s probably for the best as it wasn’t from a terribly good movie.
Up-on-the-Downstroke said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:02
You’re a real degenerate piece of shit, Cerberus. You’re going to voluntarily cut off your own dick. I just can’t go anywhere with that, other than to repeat it and laugh.
Jennifer, I know exactly where to put it. Right down your throat, bitch.
Up-on-the-Downstroke said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:04
Ahahahhahaha you’re a fucking trannie! Do you drive a Lesbaru?
Up-on-the-Downstroke said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:06
I’m out of here for the night.
Have fun with that whole paying thousands of dollars to have your dick cut off,
CerberusMr. Garrison…er…Mrs. Garrison.El Cid said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:06
Oh no, the guy who’s fascinated that there was this one time when the lady acted happy, who loved all the punk rock chix, and with the hot stripper wife and the CIA contacts, is back and looking for attention again.
They just lose it when they think of Obama and how they’d like to be him, to have him…
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:08
Actually I’m going to split it in half about in the middle, invert it and then shape and mold the nerve endings into their correct positions. Well by me I mean trained doctors, but that’s beside the point.
It’s also funny as a biologist how much of the conservative scare-machine is based on biology is icky. Yeah, it seems harrowing when you’re imagining it, but what do you think the heart transplant you’ll need will look like. Hint, it’s not pretty and the description alone would probably rival my make-a-vagina sculpting project.
Go Team Meat-sculptors.
No, biologists aren’t terminally weird, why would you say that?
Out for the Night said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:08
Have fun with that whole paying thousands of dollars to have your dick cut off thing, Cerberus Mr. Garrison!
TF said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:09
Well, you go have fun with that, Mr. Garrison. Whatever floats your boat!
Ahahahha…later guys. I can’t top that.
TF said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:10
Well, you go have fun with that, Mr. Garrison. Whatever floats your boat!
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:13
El Cid-
There was an interesting article a while back pointing out how many of the conservative sources of general resistance are based on barely disguised feelings of envy used to trigger the human negative response to unfairness.
In essence, they imagine that some unworthy person, i.e. liberal who doesn’t follow their misery-enducing rules, has access to something beyond them (wealth, happiness, a sex life that doesn’t involve intense self-hatred) and turning that into hatred and umbrage.
It does seem like a lot of the responses in general to women’s rights, gay rights, Obama is entirely about “how dare you be happy and unburdened, we’ll burden you the fuck up and then we’ll see how smug you’ll be”.
In short, conservatives are that guy who starts prank calling you at 2 am for two weeks because you blew them off at the bar.
jim said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:23
Yes, it’s true: America needs to reject the nefarious influence of secular humanism from years of using the Arabic Shania-Lawl “zero” & return to good old traditional family-values-oriented Roman numerals – before Osama divides by zero & destroys the world!!!1!1!111!!!
Wingnut Math: because integers have a liberal bias!
Pere Ubu said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:25
GBEHCRISDSWCDKSPRBF
Pronounced “bacon”.
Pere Ubu said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:26
Wingnut Math: because integers have a liberal bias!
SCUSE mah inteGERS!
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:28
Right down your throat, bitch.
Some-bod-y’s cran-ky….
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:32
Isn’t it funny how Troofus always outs himself when he gets all red-faced enraged and stuff? By answering to posts addressed to Troofus and forgetting to switch from posting under his secret identity?
Also.
g said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:34
Somebody needs a time out.
kingubu said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:34
how much whining are we going to have to endure from the sullen, defeated rightards?
I don’t think we have the instruments to measure something that big.
Its fucking despicable, the way they are trying to scare the old folks with made-up threats of ice floes and plug pulling and so forth, but I can’t help but laugh while watching yet another right-wing cargo cult project go down in flames. Yep, theatrical protests will draw media attention– especially if they are coming from people who don’t fit the stereotype of “typical protester”– but getting the press’ attention is only step one. The successful protest movements of the past all had a legit message to deliver once their disruptions drew the Media Eye. The Townhall Trolls have no second act. In an age where the news cycle is counted in 4 hour blocks they’ve had two weeks of constant coverage to get their message out and… nada. The (once again) repeated the form but left out the function.
So, yeah, after the Great Astroturfed YAWP fizzles without leaving so much as a dent in the eventual legislation, I expect the whining to be thick enough to stand a spoon in.
The Red Badger of Courage said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:38
The Truth About Leaving Sadly No said,
August 13, 2009 at 20:57 (kill)
I think I’ve made my point.
Now I will leave here, forever, no longer visiting or posting, but I’m doing this voluntarily out of my own desire.
And this is not a spoofer. This is the real Truth/Authentic.
By, fuckers.
————————————————–
You know what’s coming…
Tintin said,
August 16, 2009 at 1:39 (kill)
When we have free health care here, I can finally get my AIDS treated.
And the winner of our “When will Troofie break his latest “I will troll no more forever” promise is:
roast beef kazenzakis said,
August 13, 2009 at 21:58 (kill)
The “Troofie comeback” pool begins now. Guess when he comes back, and under what horribly transparent guise he will post first.
Two threads from now, and called “real midwestern american”.
Not a total match, but close enough. roast beef, you can pick up your grand prize, a Rev. Swank “Time Never For Homo Nups Global” clock at the Sadly, No corporate offices Monday through Friday between the hours of 8-4. Thanks for playing!
El Cid said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:42
How long would it take for this to become yet another impenetrable reference here on SN!, where it pops up and no one else knows WTF.
YOU HAVE SLAKED A YOUNGER DRYAS!!!
The Truthful Problem With Women said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:42
Troofus! You’re out on bail at last! And it’s great to see that you are just as insane as ever, and that you’ll never let a little something like being a violent social outcast and criminal get in the way of your returning to Sadly No! I’m so glad to see you though, when I turned on the news and there you were, pinned down in your Volkswagen Beetle by the Police after making threats against the White House, I thought “The idiot is finally going to get himself shot at last for his inability to control his temper”. But you’re alive, at least for your usual low definition of living! Now, I know you’ll be saying “I’m not that guy who was on the news, retard”, but it’s ok honey, we know you’ll inevitably sink that low one day; that the only difference between you and him is that he at least had the courage to admit just how pointless his life was, and that he was just putting off the inevitable death by cop, so off he went. It’s just a difference of time not degree! And no, you’ve not yet raped and killed one of those liberal bitches you always rant about, or shot a black man right at this moment… you’re just back here to talk yourself up to it! And no doubt you’ll be back on Salon.com as a new variation upon “The Ugly Truth About Liberals” as well soon too!
Godbless you, you criminally insane, completely self unaware mannequin; keep on jerking away to those demons you think the evil liberals put inside of you! ;-)
El Cid said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:44
I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT MAKING SENSE ANYMORE!!!
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:45
I was wondering who won the pool (but was too lazy to go try and figure it out–so sue me). A toast to The Roast!
g said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:46
What was it like, Troofus, being trapped in your car behind the Federal Building for 8 hours? Did they taze you?
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:47
Re the poll:
GBEHCRISDSWCDKSPRBF to you, roast beef kazenzakis.
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:49
that the only difference between you and him is that he at least had the courage to admit just how pointless his life was
Bingo!
Cerberus said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:52
kingubu-
It’s because of the strawmen. They have to believe in all sorts of things about liberals and their tactics in order to be conservatives and be okay with actively working against your own interest. As such, when they try and stick it in the eye of the liberals by trying to ape them or copy their tactics, they come off like alien invaders, wholly unable to grasp the point to the actions.
In their heads it must go, liberals protest for the act of protesting where they get to hate the president and america and so they ape that like doppelganger aliens, missing the point that the protest for liberals is just the medium.
Not Looch who has way too much time on his hands these days said,
August 16, 2009 at 4:58
And. Meaningful protest movements are essentially about something larger than oneself. A greater good. A problem, an injustice, something that actually exists in reality. And we seem to have gotten to the point where being “reality-based” is now an insult or something dismissed with a wave of the hand.
I may be absolutely delusional, but even with all of my well honed skeptism, I remain optimistic.
Weird.
jim said,
August 16, 2009 at 5:14
Do you drive a Lesbaru?
That was really witty … in 1985.
Carlos Mencia called – he wants his unfunny back.
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 5:30
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
NAKED MOLE RATS!!1!!!!
BBBB appears to be my identical twin, separated at
birthclone decanting.N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 5:35
BBBB appears to be my identical twin, separated at birth clone decanting.
Which one of you got the slow-O2 feed for Betas?
Gary Ruppert Number Two said,
August 16, 2009 at 5:36
the fact is you all suck.
kingubu said,
August 16, 2009 at 5:38
It’s because of the strawmen.
Yup, and that goes back the the ridiculous conservative fallacy that trying to understand your opponents’ motivations/reasoning/etc is the same as APPEASEMENT. The current right wing’s self-righteous rejection of any kind of deeper strategic analysis in favor of BECAUSE THEY HATE MURKA/JESUS AND YOU’RE PUSSY IF YOU TRY TO UNDERSTAND tills the field for a million strawmen to bloom. It isn’t just politics, either. The same bullshit is at the root of their utter and obvious failures in foreign policy, for example.
M. Bouffant said,
August 16, 2009 at 5:38
The fact is, nobody’s sucking on you. Ever.
M. Bouffant said,
August 16, 2009 at 5:39
Utter and obvious failures in foreign policy & their personal lives.
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 5:40
Which one of you got the slow-O2 feed for Betas?
Obviously, whichever of us is spending more time in the RW and thus takes longer to notice that comment.
Doug Watts said,
August 16, 2009 at 5:45
Hey, yet another Tintin toilet photoshop.
Wow, that’s sum original.
[Tintin adds: Hey, yet another complaint by Doug Watts about a toilet photoshop. That's sum [sic] original! Hey, yet another swamp photo by Doug, etc.]
Kronecker said,
August 16, 2009 at 6:00
Wingnut Math: because integers have a liberal bias!
Integers were created BY GOD you fuckers. And have NO BIAS at all. Also.
kg said,
August 16, 2009 at 6:43
Pardon my digits, Madame
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
August 16, 2009 at 6:56
BBBB appears to be my identical twin, separated at birth clone decanting.
Yeah, poor suckers wanted an army of Scarlett Johansson clones but they got us!
Which one of you got the slow-O2 feed for Betas?
No slow-O2 feed, but an immersion in ethanol, an immersion that continues to this day, but sadly, not tonight.
Obviously, whichever of us is spending more time in the RW and thus takes longer to notice that comment.
Spent time in meatspace, watching the sunset over the Hudson River, it put being a sub-epsilon in a more positive light.
The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge said,
August 16, 2009 at 7:02
Ford’s in his flivver, and all’s right with the world?
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
August 16, 2009 at 7:18
Ford’sHudson’s in hisflivverriver, and all’s right with the world?That’s more like it.
justme said,
August 16, 2009 at 8:14
With Toofus taking some Clinton (George) for his name this time, I think this little description of him by the master might be appropriate.
justme said,
August 16, 2009 at 8:19
Audio.
Danny Guam said,
August 16, 2009 at 8:38
Assrocket is over there arguing that pre-existing conditions should not be covered because you can’t insure for something that has already happened.
No, he really said it.
I thought this comment was weird enough to share:
“This is the most sensible commentary on “health insurance” I’ve ever read. Any form of health insurance is simply a mechanism for spreading financial risk to reduce the impact of a catastrophe.
The insurance industry has been spreading risk successfully for centuries. Turn them loose on this problem, free of undue governmental hindrance, and they will come up with a variety of innovative and practical solutions.
However, if catastrophe is what you want, let the government handle the problem. Remember the New Orleans levees.
Walt Grant”
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
August 16, 2009 at 9:34
The insurance industry has been spreading risk successfully for centuries. Turn them loose on this problem, free of undue governmental hindrance, and they will come up with a variety of innovative and practical solutions.
Innovative and practical solutions to land your sick, sorry self in the poorhouse.
Sheesh said,
August 16, 2009 at 10:06
Hey BBBB,
Similarly, innovative risk management products like CDOs and CDSes? What could possibly go wrong?
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
August 16, 2009 at 10:13
Similarly, innovative risk management products like CDOs and CDSes? What could possibly go wrong?
Indeed!
Hey, maybe a fauz wingnut can arrange to indenture the teabaggers to multinational corporations, in the vein of the protagonist of Gibson’s Fragments of a Hologram Rose, and offshore the dumbasses so we can cobble together a sane, humane society.
Sheesh said,
August 16, 2009 at 10:44
OT but, I love the last two photos here (and their captions), as well as the “Keep your laws off my body” sign — the irony is amazing.
http://bluehampshire.com/diary/8028/a-childs-garden-of-teabaggery
Maynard G. Muskievote said,
August 16, 2009 at 13:52
Wingnut Math: because integers have a liberal bias!
‘Scuse mah numBAHS!
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 15:26
Hey, yet another Tintin toilet photoshop.
Wow, that’s sum original.
[Tintin adds: Hey, yet another complaint by Doug Watts about a toilet photoshop. That's sum [sic] original! Hey, yet another swamp photo by Doug, etc.]
Maybe you’d find things more interesting if we talked about guillotines instead, and the heading on the photoshop was “heh, indeed.” Then we could have a deep discussion about how mention of a guillotine absent any linkage to any particular person or persons is the same as making a “death threat” against a political figure, since we all know there’s a long history of lone wackjobs elbowing their way past security, kidnapping politicians, and executing them with guillotines – such a shameful history, in fact, that anyone who uses the word “guillotine” should summarily be banned from posting comments.
No, wait…make that “anyone who uses the word ‘guillotine’ who the host is looking for an excuse to ban because they don’t sufficiently suck up to his band of sycophants” should be banned from making comments. And then you, Doug Watts, can patrol other websites pointing out that making a comment about guillotines is exactly the same thing as making “death threats” against political figures, what with the long and brutal history we have in this country of executing politicians with guillotines. Though you might want to cut and paste your defense of said comment-banning policy at the appropriate site, to make sure you get the brownie points you’ve got coming.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 15:31
Why aren’t cigar guillotines used for the foreskin holocaust? They seem a natural fit.
Public Option--Thrown Under the Bus said,
August 16, 2009 at 15:54
So now HHS Secretary Sebelius has finally stated that there will be no public option, as has BHO. How does it feel to meet the underside of the BHO Bus, liberals? How soon until you’re voting for the Green Party again?
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:09
My guess is that, had either Secretary Sebelius or the president himself stated what you say they stated, it would be all over the news, and the good folks here, all of whom are much better informed than you, would already know about it.
Or, at the very least, you’d be able to post a link to it. I can’t help but notice that you haven’t.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:15
had either Secretary Sebelius or the president himself stated what you say they stated
Apparently they both stated that a public option wasn’t the necessary core of their plan.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090816/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_sebelius_health_care
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:15
IOW, waffling on the administration’s part, reading comprehension fail for troofus.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:18
The South Shall Rise Again!
part MMMCCCXVIII.
Pere Ubu said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:26
Assrocket is over there arguing that pre-existing conditions should not be covered because you can’t insure for something that has already happened.
No, he really said it.
Ahem..
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:26
I guess Troofy lied about leaving forever too.
Again.
I am shocked, I tell you.
Why aren’t cigar guillotines used for the foreskin holocaust? They seem a natural fit.
For some of you poorly-endowed wretches, maybe.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:28
For some of you poorly-endowed wretches, maybe.
What kind of PENII do newborns have in your neck of the woods?
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:36
What kind of PENII do newborns have in your neck of the woods?
Throbbing monsters. Midwestern corn-fed spawn, they are.
Besides, not every foreskin execution happens to newborns.
g said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:37
Maybe we shouldn’t call it insurance. Maybe we should think about health care as a kind of extended warranty. Everyone gets issued one at birth.
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:38
Throbbing monsters. Midwestern corn-fed spawn, they are.
It’s not for nuthin’ that they call them Children of the Corndog.
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:38
[Tintin adds: Hey, yet another complaint by Doug Watts about a toilet photoshop. That's sum [sic] original! Hey, yet another swamp photo by Doug, etc.]
True words.
He’s as repetitive as Brandi coming in to complain about feeding the troll. Or even mikey (and I love ya man) stopping by a troll infested thread to say nothing’s changed and he shan’t be back.
Keep up the toilet p-shops until you run out of toilets or run out of wingnuts.
Jennifer said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:48
True words.
Hear, hear.
Wingnut + toilet photoshops are like a Sadly, No! trademark. You have to wonder why anyone who finds them boring or uninteresting would continue to come around to complain about them. Isn’t that pretty much the classic definition for “trolling”?
He’s as repetitive as Brandi coming in to complain about feeding the troll.
Some of you may recall me causing a stir a year or two back for jumping all over Doug Watts for this exact same thing – I made the point that he never seemed to show up other than to castigate others here or nit-pick what he considers shortcomings of commenters or the site itself. And I cordially invited him to fuck off, to which a few regulars voiced disagreement.
Perhaps I just knew him better than some others here from seeing him over at Sycophant Central.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:52
Besides, not every foreskin execution happens to newborns.
I don’t need to hear about this ever.
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:53
Sycophant Central.
What’s that? And can I rent my own sycophant there?
Paul T. Lazaro said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:56
More toilets please! Less people complaining about toilets!
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 16:58
OT, ZRM – your mayor has balls. http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/53347442.html
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:03
Why aren’t cigar guillotines used for the foreskin holocaust?
I may not have mentioned the 5-blade guillotine that we invented at Bimler Research Laboratories, for the closer shave.
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:12
Yeah, even the zombies stay away from State Fair. ” Wisconsin: Zombies, cannibals, and State Fair. Wear a Cup” was too long to fit on license plates.
He’s thinking of running for gov. The ads write themselves. “Barrett: Tough as Fuck”
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:14
I may not have mentioned the 5-blade guillotine that we invented at Bimler Research Laboratories, for the closer shave.
I believe this may have a place in the Wingnut Processor. does it cut 5 wingnuts at once, or one wingnut five times?
N__B said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:16
does it cut 5 wingnuts at once, or one wingnut five times?
Does it matter?
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:17
or one wingnut five times
If you want to get fancy, we have also perfected the crinkle-cut blade.
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:19
Midwestern corn-fed spawn, they are.
He who walks behind the roes.
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:22
well, I need to know so I can plan the timing. wouldn’t want the pies to be premature.
El Cid said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:25
I think that real health reform would just be to outlaw all this moaning and complaining about it when it hurts or if you have to work when you’re sick. A hundred years ago no one much cared, and weren’t we all better off then?
tigrismus said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:49
Less people complaining about toilets!
FEWER.
Mr. Concerned said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:59
He’s as repetitive as Brandi coming in to complain about feeding the troll. Or even mikey (and I love ya man) stopping by a troll infested thread to say nothing’s changed and he shan’t be back.
How dare you say such mean things about people who are obviously just very concerned for our quality! I shan’t be back, except when I will be, to tell you in detail why I still shan’t be back.
Anonymous said,
August 16, 2009 at 18:01
Actually, I thought the Hinderaker article had some valid points. Although unlike him I can see that a single payer solution would solve all the problems he brings up. His article is one of the best arguments FOR a single payer solution that I’ve seen in a while.
kingubu said,
August 16, 2009 at 18:24
I may not have mentioned the 5-blade guillotine that we invented at Bimler Research Laboratories, for the closer shave.
Oooo! I love the commercial for it, where the guillotine comes zooming in like a fighter jet with Mme. DuFarge in cockpit and she dives down *shoop* and snicks off the guy’s head and then she’s all pew-pew-pew neeeeeeerw pew-pew-pew *shooop* neeeeeeerw…
What?
St. Trotsky, Pope-in-Avignon said,
August 16, 2009 at 18:40
Not a total match, but close enough. roast beef, you can pick up your grand prize, a Rev. Swank “Time Never For Homo Nups Global” clock at the Sadly, No corporate offices Monday through Friday between the hours of 8-4. Thanks for playing!
I demand a recount! I totally said it’d be under some grudge-fuck nym against Tintin.
Tintin said,
August 16, 2009 at 19:00
It wasn’t Troofie. It was another troll who used to come her and spew doggerel and weird sexual crap.
Smut Clyde said,
August 16, 2009 at 20:16
I remember when S,N! used to be fun, before the grammar-pedantry concern trolls started insisting on the mass-noun / count-noun distinction.
Paul T. Lazaro said,
August 16, 2009 at 21:41
#
tigrismus said,
August 16, 2009 at 17:49
Less people complaining about toilets!
FEWER.
Ya, Mein Fewer!
a different mikey said,
August 17, 2009 at 0:10
We’re having a big party in the Northeast in a couple of weeks and I thought about throwing out to the SadlyNauts but that Doug Watts guy appears to live right around the corner. Oh well. That’s the toobz.
Mrs Tilton said,
August 17, 2009 at 11:47
Père,
After the Revolution, of course, we’ll just need to show our Number O’ Teh Beast Happy Purchase Tattoo to get treated
You know, that’s brilliant. Let’s get a law passed prohibiting the provision of any form of medical care to anybody who fails to show their Antichrist Barcode Tattoo. The Christards, loyal to the end to their invisible friend, will refuse to get the tattoo and hence sicken and die. And then they’ll be gone for ever. Natural selection will do that to them anyway over the long haul, but why not goose it along a little?
And there’s really no downside. Since there’s no God, I’m pretty there’s no Antichrist either (more’s the pity). And we can tell everybody that the tattoos will be done in invisible UV ink. Then we won’t even need to actually get them.