http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSSP116150

“We now believe that the CO2 did not cause all the warming, that there were additional factors,” said Richard Zeebe, an oceanographer with the University of Hawaii at Manoa.”

So Surber goes into a AGW is the suxxor rant.

But fails to include the next few paragraphs:

“There may have been an initial trigger,” he told Reuters on Wednesday from Hawaii. This could be a deep ocean warming that caused a catastrophic release of methane from hydrate deposits under the seabed.”

“They estimated about 3 trillion tonnes of carbon (11 trillion tonnes of CO2) was released over several thousand years from the methane deposits, leading to a 70 percent rise in atmospheric CO2 levels from pre-event levels.

But Zeebe said this could only explain a 1 to 3.5 degree Celsius rise in temperatures, adding that a commonly accepted scientific range for a doubling of CO2 is between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees Celsius.

This meant other factors must have been at work to drive up temperatures between 5 and 9 degrees Celsius.

“If this additional warming which we do not really understand, was caused as a response to the CO2 warming, then there is a chance that also a future warming could be more intense than people anticipate right now,” Zeebe said.’

Y’think the wingnuts understand that the deep ocean hasn’t warmed yet because of thermal inertia?

I’d love to see how they deal with health advice:

Doctor 1: If you continue smoking, you’ll die of cancer within a decade.

Doctor 2: With respect to my colleague, I think if you continue smoking a heart attack will get you before the cancer. Maybe 3 years tops.

Surber: Doctors can’t agree what’s going to take me out, so smoking must be fine. I should up my habit to 3 packs a day.

Of course, when I posted a comment pointing out that this was bad, not good news, for AGW skeptics, my comment got deleted. Wingnuts love to open debate, you see.

Love your work, Green Eagle. (Seriously.)

+1 internet. That was great.

Worse than you thought.

I’ve known we’re fucked for 20 years.

At this point it’s about destroying THE bomb, so life “after us” has a fair shot.

hmm. an organism that thrives in warmer arctic waters. Lowering the albedo of the Arctic to lower than than of even seawater, which is already very absorbent. It covers the ice, absorbing sunlight and hastening melting. This might be one of those unforeseen factors that models can’t anticipate.

Every time the climate scientists have been wrong, it’s always been on the side of less change.

I’ve never heard of a study coming out saying “scientists say global warming happening slower than predicted.”

Actually, they were driven in a Plymouth — “And God, in his Fury, drove them from the garden.”

Ed

We always worked very hard to see that what we showed on screen was in accord with the facts.

We are professionals, and I very much resent the notion that we would descend to the slipshod mental level of a Jonah Goldberg.

After all, even working in TV, we still have some shred of self respect.

Fun Ahoy!

“The Raft” scared hell outta me…who knew King was prescient?

Didn’t miss much, four years down the, er, “tubes”.

I hope they sent some samples to Miskatonic U.

Actually, soon-to-be-ex-Governor-but-a-shoo-in-for-Preznit-in-2012 Sarah Palin asked for them to be sent to Wassamatta U. She has a soft spot in her head – uh, heart – for Wassamatta because of their leading edge research into an Anti-Anti-Missile-Missile-Missile, which she will use to protect Alaska from Putin’s head looking over the horizon at them.

Brings to mind a Doughy Galactus.

” I am working on eating a new planet, but the Simpsons are on. If there are any readers out there that can deliver a planet to me…”

Ace o’Play-doh

Heh… looks like something designed by Giger… That’s why I call it a facehugger.

The Palaeocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum was a period around 55 million years ago when global temperatures increased 5–9 °C within a few thousand years.

In Eocene times, in present day Greenland, fossils of deciduous trees with leaves the size of dinner plants were found- the plants had to take advantage of the “midnight sun”, then thrive through six months of winter. This guy would be able to speak about it at some length, even though I can’t be arsed finding a linky.

Oh, & speaking of Alaska … something black & gooey is drifting around up there & nobody knows what the hell it is.
I hope they sent some samples to Miskatonic U

I, for one, welcome our new shoggoth overlords.

I heard that thoat crap was the real problem.

But look at how many homos those horns could help!

Those are Sarah Palin’s tears.

You haven’t noticed the right wing’s flight from the pro-corporate, greed-is-good, my-CEO-right-or-wrong mentality to their new stance as sticking up for the little guy against the combined evil forces of rapacious capitalism and insidious socialism? They don’t care about business any more, and now that all those leftist ideas are actually kind of good for business, why then, business must be as evil as the lefties who are helping it.

I hope they sent some samples to Miskatonic U.

Fun Ahoy!

8. Profit!