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		<title>By: Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2080</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 23:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I mean to be hateful.&quot;

And I hate to be mean.  That&#039;s what makes each of us unique, guss.  


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I mean to be hateful.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I hate to be mean.  That&#8217;s what makes each of us unique, guss.</p>
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		<title>By: guss</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2079</link>
		<dc:creator>guss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 18:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean to be hateful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean to be hateful.</p>
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		<title>By: yagi</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2078</link>
		<dc:creator>yagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 15:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is true, you did say hate speech and not hate crime. Fair enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is true, you did say hate speech and not hate crime. Fair enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2077</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yagi, I never used the term &quot;hate crime&quot; to describe the verbal abuse directed towards me.  I wouldn&#039;t call it a crime, but it would definately qualify as hate speech.  

spencer, can I quote you on that?  That&#039;s such a brilliant reply.  How long did it take you to come up with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yagi, I never used the term &#8220;hate crime&#8221; to describe the verbal abuse directed towards me.  I wouldn&#8217;t call it a crime, but it would definately qualify as hate speech.  </p>
<p>spencer, can I quote you on that?  That&#8217;s such a brilliant reply.  How long did it take you to come up with that?</p>
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		<title>By: teh l4m3</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2076</link>
		<dc:creator>teh l4m3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Has anyone seen her lately?&quot;

I thought I&#039;d caught a glimpse of her ankles, but then I realized I was in Muir Woods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Has anyone seen her lately?&#8221;</p>
<p>I thought I&#8217;d caught a glimpse of her ankles, but then I realized I was in Muir Woods.</p>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2075</link>
		<dc:creator>spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 12:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;bigotry also has to do with the way one is treated for their political views, and I have experiences some of it here.&lt;/i&gt;

What a load of shit.

Yagi&#039;s got it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>bigotry also has to do with the way one is treated for their political views, and I have experiences some of it here.</i></p>
<p>What a load of shit.</p>
<p>Yagi&#8217;s got it right.</p>
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		<title>By: yagi</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2074</link>
		<dc:creator>yagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen people being physically attacked because of their political views. That qualifies as a crime in my mind. But unkind words exchanged in an anonymous forum = hate crime?

Sadly, No!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen people being physically attacked because of their political views. That qualifies as a crime in my mind. But unkind words exchanged in an anonymous forum = hate crime?</p>
<p>Sadly, No!</p>
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		<title>By: Mal de mer</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2073</link>
		<dc:creator>Mal de mer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could&#039;ve used the words &quot;moist&quot;, &quot;dank&quot; or &quot;loamy&quot; in there somewhere, no?

I mean, when I think of Jonah&#039;s innie, I...*urdle*

...oops.  Threw up a bit in my mouth, there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could&#8217;ve used the words &#8220;moist&#8221;, &#8220;dank&#8221; or &#8220;loamy&#8221; in there somewhere, no?</p>
<p>I mean, when I think of Jonah&#8217;s innie, I&#8230;*urdle*</p>
<p>&#8230;oops.  Threw up a bit in my mouth, there.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2072</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yagi, bigotry also has to do with the way one is treated for their political views, and I have experiences some of it here.  If you had been at the receiving end of some of the comments I have received, you&#039;d be tempted to play the victim too.  But I don&#039;t wallow in my own victimization, not for too long anyway.  I also have found friendly, nice, good people right here at Sadly, No!, so, along with my occasional whining, I must also say thank you to those good friends, ideologically lost, though they may be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yagi, bigotry also has to do with the way one is treated for their political views, and I have experiences some of it here.  If you had been at the receiving end of some of the comments I have received, you&#8217;d be tempted to play the victim too.  But I don&#8217;t wallow in my own victimization, not for too long anyway.  I also have found friendly, nice, good people right here at Sadly, No!, so, along with my occasional whining, I must also say thank you to those good friends, ideologically lost, though they may be.</p>
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		<title>By: Pinko Punko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinko Punko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s get back to Teh&#039;s take on Jonah&#039;s almost certain to be super innie navel.  Boys and girls, that is such an innie, it is like The Forbidden World in there.  I swear there will be dinosaurs in the fleshe enveloped core and K. Lo.  Has anyone seen her lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s get back to Teh&#8217;s take on Jonah&#8217;s almost certain to be super innie navel.  Boys and girls, that is such an innie, it is like The Forbidden World in there.  I swear there will be dinosaurs in the fleshe enveloped core and K. Lo.  Has anyone seen her lately?</p>
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		<title>By: The Dark Avenger</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2070</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dark Avenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now you have to arrest yourself?

Oy vey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now you have to arrest yourself?</p>
<p>Oy vey!</p>
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		<title>By: Mal de mer</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2069</link>
		<dc:creator>Mal de mer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a meeny-bo-beeny to BLT is hate speech...a hate crime, in fact.

So is responding to him sarcasti...oh, great.  Now, &lt;i&gt;I&#039;ve&lt;/i&gt; committed a hate crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a meeny-bo-beeny to BLT is hate speech&#8230;a hate crime, in fact.</p>
<p>So is responding to him sarcasti&#8230;oh, great.  Now, <i>I&#8217;ve</i> committed a hate crime.</p>
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		<title>By: yagi</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2068</link>
		<dc:creator>yagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;as a victim of ridiculous volumes of hate speech&quot;

BLT, that&#039;s laughable on two counts:

1) You, a pseudonym on an electronic bulletin board, are portraying yourself as a victim.
2) Hate speech is at its core bigoted and intended to intimidate a person due to their race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc.

People vociferously and even lewdly refuting your political opinions does *not* qualify as hate speech. But go ahead and play the victim if it makes you happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;as a victim of ridiculous volumes of hate speech&#8221;</p>
<p>BLT, that&#8217;s laughable on two counts:</p>
<p>1) You, a pseudonym on an electronic bulletin board, are portraying yourself as a victim.<br />
2) Hate speech is at its core bigoted and intended to intimidate a person due to their race, ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, etc.</p>
<p>People vociferously and even lewdly refuting your political opinions does *not* qualify as hate speech. But go ahead and play the victim if it makes you happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2067</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have to give Deborah a lot of credit. Anyone who can make Danny Okrent (late of the NYT) look like a passable public editor is a miracle worker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we have to give Deborah a lot of credit. Anyone who can make Danny Okrent (late of the NYT) look like a passable public editor is a miracle worker.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Houghton</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2066</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Houghton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay got this one spot on, as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democraticunderground.com/archive/2006/wapo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the DU&#039;s archive of the WaPo&lt;/a&gt; demonstrates.  

The only way to view it as a &quot;personal&quot; attack is to forget that describing an incompetent, lying &quot;ombudsman&quot; as incompetent and/or lying isn&#039;t a personal description, it&#039;s a job review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay got this one spot on, as <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/archive/2006/wapo/" rel="nofollow">the DU&#8217;s archive of the WaPo</a> demonstrates.  </p>
<p>The only way to view it as a &#8220;personal&#8221; attack is to forget that describing an incompetent, lying &#8220;ombudsman&#8221; as incompetent and/or lying isn&#8217;t a personal description, it&#8217;s a job review.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2065</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As they say, Jay, every rose has its thorn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As they say, Jay, every rose has its thorn.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Brida</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2064</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Brida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The victim, in the end, comes out smelling like a rose.&lt;/i&gt;

Sure. Just ask President Kerry and Senator Cleland.

Anyway, Howell deserved a good 95% of everything she got -- and that 95% wasn&#039;t &#039;hate speech&#039;, nor even overly excessive, given the immediacy of blogs. It wasn&#039;t as threatening as a normal hour at Dean&#039;s World, nor, sadly, as funny as a hour at Sadly No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The victim, in the end, comes out smelling like a rose.</i></p>
<p>Sure. Just ask President Kerry and Senator Cleland.</p>
<p>Anyway, Howell deserved a good 95% of everything she got &#8212; and that 95% wasn&#8217;t &#8216;hate speech&#8217;, nor even overly excessive, given the immediacy of blogs. It wasn&#8217;t as threatening as a normal hour at Dean&#8217;s World, nor, sadly, as funny as a hour at Sadly No.</p>
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		<title>By: larkspur</title>
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		<dc:creator>larkspur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Jay.  I&#039;ll see your Slutskaya and raise you a Smashnova.  I&#039;ll let Dementieva clean up afterwards.  She&#039;s my favorite.

Frankly, I find a huge, non-moderated, online bloggy pile-on to be unsavory.  I can&#039;t stand the heat, so I stay out of those particular kitchens.

Now, I can do this because I&#039;m not a damn newspaper. But it&#039;s astonishing to me that a damn newspaper cannot adjust to this sort of discourse.  Of course, it might mean spending a little money and hiring people to monitor the posts properly.  It&#039;d be kind of stupid for Howell to wade through the raw postings, but once the initial clean-up of the inane &quot;OMFG eat sh*t and die STOOPID C*NT&quot; stuff gets done, I think it&#039;s central to an omsbudsman&#039;s job description to get in there and deal with it.  I hate to see a grown-up, well-paid executive cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Jay.  I&#8217;ll see your Slutskaya and raise you a Smashnova.  I&#8217;ll let Dementieva clean up afterwards.  She&#8217;s my favorite.</p>
<p>Frankly, I find a huge, non-moderated, online bloggy pile-on to be unsavory.  I can&#8217;t stand the heat, so I stay out of those particular kitchens.</p>
<p>Now, I can do this because I&#8217;m not a damn newspaper. But it&#8217;s astonishing to me that a damn newspaper cannot adjust to this sort of discourse.  Of course, it might mean spending a little money and hiring people to monitor the posts properly.  It&#8217;d be kind of stupid for Howell to wade through the raw postings, but once the initial clean-up of the inane &#8220;OMFG eat sh*t and die STOOPID C*NT&#8221; stuff gets done, I think it&#8217;s central to an omsbudsman&#8217;s job description to get in there and deal with it.  I hate to see a grown-up, well-paid executive cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2062</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. BLT, The Song Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion, as a victim of ridiculous volumes of hate speech, profanity and the like, I would have to say this:  Though much of this foul-mouthed billingsgate is intended to discredit the recipient of the verbal abuse, such churlish, junior high school, playground bully rhetoric only discredits the perpetrator.  The victim, in the end, comes out smelling like a rose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion, as a victim of ridiculous volumes of hate speech, profanity and the like, I would have to say this:  Though much of this foul-mouthed billingsgate is intended to discredit the recipient of the verbal abuse, such churlish, junior high school, playground bully rhetoric only discredits the perpetrator.  The victim, in the end, comes out smelling like a rose.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Brida</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/2273.html#comment-2061</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Brida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of world does the Washington Post want to live in? Me, I&#039;m very comfortable in a place where I can point out to total strangers that a woman named &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060120/ts_afp/fskateeurwomen&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Slutskaya&lt;/a&gt; just broke a figure skating record. 

There was no quote from her manager Pimpsboris to note her feat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of world does the Washington Post want to live in? Me, I&#8217;m very comfortable in a place where I can point out to total strangers that a woman named <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060120/ts_afp/fskateeurwomen" rel="nofollow"><br />
Slutskaya</a> just broke a figure skating record. </p>
<p>There was no quote from her manager Pimpsboris to note her feat.</p>
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