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		<title>By: Tehanu</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932731</link>
		<dc:creator>Tehanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naming anything except a garbage dump after Ronnie Rayguns is a disgrace to the nation.  I&#039;m sorry to say that his signature is on both my B.A. and M.L.S. diplomas from UCLA, and even sorrier that his statue is now where Thomas Starr King was and still ought to be, in the Capitol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naming anything except a garbage dump after Ronnie Rayguns is a disgrace to the nation.  I&#8217;m sorry to say that his signature is on both my B.A. and M.L.S. diplomas from UCLA, and even sorrier that his statue is now where Thomas Starr King was and still ought to be, in the Capitol.</p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Transmición</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932730</link>
		<dc:creator>Manuel Transmición</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Djur, I think it&#039;s Buckley&#039;s inflappable self-righteousness that impresses them so.  He was, after all, a man who could never be wrong, at least in his own mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Djur, I think it&#8217;s Buckley&#8217;s inflappable self-righteousness that impresses them so.  He was, after all, a man who could never be wrong, at least in his own mind.</p>
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		<title>By: My Little Anaerobic Chums</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932729</link>
		<dc:creator>My Little Anaerobic Chums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yum yum yum!  Reagan is good for something after all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yum yum yum!  Reagan is good for something after all!</p>
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		<title>By: Djur</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932397</link>
		<dc:creator>Djur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another jim: Interestingly enough, when I talk about the Buckley/Chomsky debates with conservatives, they are equally convinced that Buckley completely devastated Chomsky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another jim: Interestingly enough, when I talk about the Buckley/Chomsky debates with conservatives, they are equally convinced that Buckley completely devastated Chomsky.</p>
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		<title>By: Hoagy</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932299</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoagy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oddly enough the Chomsky Dissection did&#039;nt come up in the BBC love letter. We were informed that WFB changed his mind on civil rights but not, of course, given any examples of the racist bilge he emitted when the issue could have gone either way.
Now why should the Beeb  underwrite a vanity project about such an obscure ( to the British ) figure? Because the BBC mangement suspect that Britain will have a Tory government within 18 months and by indulging Portillo ( a semi-detached member of the shadow cabinet) they hope to avoid privatisation.
In a few months I predict we&#039;ll be treated to the wonders of the Laffer curve as explained by David Cameron ( who&#039;s a big fan of Arthurs)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough the Chomsky Dissection did&#8217;nt come up in the BBC love letter. We were informed that WFB changed his mind on civil rights but not, of course, given any examples of the racist bilge he emitted when the issue could have gone either way.<br />
Now why should the Beeb  underwrite a vanity project about such an obscure ( to the British ) figure? Because the BBC mangement suspect that Britain will have a Tory government within 18 months and by indulging Portillo ( a semi-detached member of the shadow cabinet) they hope to avoid privatisation.<br />
In a few months I predict we&#8217;ll be treated to the wonders of the Laffer curve as explained by David Cameron ( who&#8217;s a big fan of Arthurs)</p>
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		<title>By: RvB</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932298</link>
		<dc:creator>RvB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 12:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They put a crown upon a jackass
Recorded every bray
The commentators told us what it was 
he&#039;d meant to say
But when the time came for him
As it must sooner or later
Above his tomb they wrote
&quot;Here lies the Great Communicator.&quot;

Vicious, stodgy, hypocritical and proudly intellectually vacant, the evil Ronald Wilson Reagan was this nation&#039;s Tiberius, and the 5 year anniversary whitewashing of his sepulcher won&#039;t disguise the stink issuing from it. Even if one gives him credit for ending the Cold War (through nuclear brinksmanship), there&#039;s the little matter of his policies at home and abroad. He was lucky not to end up in stir for what he did in the Iran/Contra debacle, and if you want a memorial to his career, just look at bleeding Baghdad. I&#039;ve hated him ever since they made him governor: &quot;If you&#039;ve seen one redwood, you&#039;ve seen them all&quot;, &quot;If there&#039;s going to be a bloodbath, let it start here&quot; (said in regards to a student uprising at Berkeley). The many years he spent in diapers playing with his drool is supposed to be mitigation for the amount of suffering he caused, but it isn&#039;t. Say, if people want to revisit those happy years, why don&#039;t they go have another look at Watchmen--that film and the book its based on sums up Reagan&#039;s era beautifully. Blood on a happy face badge--there&#039;s your Reagan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They put a crown upon a jackass<br />
Recorded every bray<br />
The commentators told us what it was<br />
he&#8217;d meant to say<br />
But when the time came for him<br />
As it must sooner or later<br />
Above his tomb they wrote<br />
&#8220;Here lies the Great Communicator.&#8221;</p>
<p>Vicious, stodgy, hypocritical and proudly intellectually vacant, the evil Ronald Wilson Reagan was this nation&#8217;s Tiberius, and the 5 year anniversary whitewashing of his sepulcher won&#8217;t disguise the stink issuing from it. Even if one gives him credit for ending the Cold War (through nuclear brinksmanship), there&#8217;s the little matter of his policies at home and abroad. He was lucky not to end up in stir for what he did in the Iran/Contra debacle, and if you want a memorial to his career, just look at bleeding Baghdad. I&#8217;ve hated him ever since they made him governor: &#8220;If you&#8217;ve seen one redwood, you&#8217;ve seen them all&#8221;, &#8220;If there&#8217;s going to be a bloodbath, let it start here&#8221; (said in regards to a student uprising at Berkeley). The many years he spent in diapers playing with his drool is supposed to be mitigation for the amount of suffering he caused, but it isn&#8217;t. Say, if people want to revisit those happy years, why don&#8217;t they go have another look at Watchmen&#8211;that film and the book its based on sums up Reagan&#8217;s era beautifully. Blood on a happy face badge&#8211;there&#8217;s your Reagan.</p>
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		<title>By: another jim</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932216</link>
		<dc:creator>another jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to pile in on William F. - it is such a joy to witness his Viet Nam debates with Chomsky. &#039;Cause Willie F stepped up with his typical patrician air and definite skill in clothing misdirections and excuses in exquisite phrases - and Chomsky just ***took him apart***.

It was truly awesome. Youtube it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to pile in on William F. &#8211; it is such a joy to witness his Viet Nam debates with Chomsky. &#8216;Cause Willie F stepped up with his typical patrician air and definite skill in clothing misdirections and excuses in exquisite phrases &#8211; and Chomsky just ***took him apart***.</p>
<p>It was truly awesome. Youtube it.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian X</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932215</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two things to say about Ronald Reagan, both about foreign policy, neither of them good:

1. I look back now and realize that 1982-3 were the scariest years to be alive in my entire life.
2. There is no way he can ever be forgiven for falling for Edward Teller&#039;s bullshit at Reykjavik.

Put Alzheimer&#039;s, astrology, AIDS, and every other fucking thing he did (as well as the &quot;October Surprise&quot; horseshit) aside. He scared the living shit out of a seven-year-old boy who was just aware enough to realize that the world was a heartbeat away from incineration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two things to say about Ronald Reagan, both about foreign policy, neither of them good:</p>
<p>1. I look back now and realize that 1982-3 were the scariest years to be alive in my entire life.<br />
2. There is no way he can ever be forgiven for falling for Edward Teller&#8217;s bullshit at Reykjavik.</p>
<p>Put Alzheimer&#8217;s, astrology, AIDS, and every other fucking thing he did (as well as the &#8220;October Surprise&#8221; horseshit) aside. He scared the living shit out of a seven-year-old boy who was just aware enough to realize that the world was a heartbeat away from incineration.</p>
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		<title>By: wiley</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932211</link>
		<dc:creator>wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 06:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been seeing troll posts expressing awe about the fifth anniversary of Reagan&#039;s death, and I can&#039;t tell if they think it&#039;s one of his greater accomplishments to stay dead for five years, or if they are expecting him to do something else. 

I don&#039;t remember him being popular with anyone but the media and really old people who didn&#039;t recognize the Alzheimer&#039;s because they had it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been seeing troll posts expressing awe about the fifth anniversary of Reagan&#8217;s death, and I can&#8217;t tell if they think it&#8217;s one of his greater accomplishments to stay dead for five years, or if they are expecting him to do something else. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember him being popular with anyone but the media and really old people who didn&#8217;t recognize the Alzheimer&#8217;s because they had it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932195</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 05:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psst:  Jesse appears to be a good person.  It&#039;s Van Helsing you want to extract money from.  And steaks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Psst:  Jesse appears to be a good person.  It&#8217;s Van Helsing you want to extract money from.  And steaks.</p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932188</link>
		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 05:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a small sum of money I am prepared to set up a website to act as a front-end for Google, that would replace the insouciant logos with ones more to Jesse Taylor&#039;s taste. A version of LMGTFY, in other words, but with added parental-protection features. Perhaps that would assuage his sense of victimised oppression, and his concern that other people have priorities different from his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a small sum of money I am prepared to set up a website to act as a front-end for Google, that would replace the insouciant logos with ones more to Jesse Taylor&#8217;s taste. A version of LMGTFY, in other words, but with added parental-protection features. Perhaps that would assuage his sense of victimised oppression, and his concern that other people have priorities different from his.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Bouffant</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932177</link>
		<dc:creator>M. Bouffant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 04:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;there was no personal depth to which Buckley wouldn’t sink to settle a grudge&lt;/i&gt;

Another reason that filthy rich people who don&#039;t answer to anyone should be eaten, &amp; every penny they&#039;ve stolen from the workers should be kept from their vile, inbred offspring, &amp; returned to the masses. 

Corn Dogs for everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>there was no personal depth to which Buckley wouldn’t sink to settle a grudge</i></p>
<p>Another reason that filthy rich people who don&#8217;t answer to anyone should be eaten, &amp; every penny they&#8217;ve stolen from the workers should be kept from their vile, inbred offspring, &amp; returned to the masses. </p>
<p>Corn Dogs for everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: post partisan</title>
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		<dc:creator>post partisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably true.</description>
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		<title>By: PeeJ</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932157</link>
		<dc:creator>PeeJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t saying he would object to what they are doing.  The inarticulate, oafish way they&#039;re going about it, though, would drive him nuts.  Hence my freudenly schade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t saying he would object to what they are doing.  The inarticulate, oafish way they&#8217;re going about it, though, would drive him nuts.  Hence my freudenly schade.</p>
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		<title>By: post partisan</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932154</link>
		<dc:creator>post partisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PeeJ--What makes you think William of Buckley would have objected?  Buckley was clever, well bred, well read, and had a sense of personal style.  By most accounts he was a kind and generous man to people he knew personally and did not regard as enemies.  He probably tipped well and was kind to the help.

But one need only refer to one of the &quot;RIP&quot; columns Buckley wrote about someone he disliked who had passed away to understand that there was no personal depth to which Buckley wouldn&#039;t sink to settle a grudge.  It&#039;s possible (but inaccurate) to say that Buckley calling Vidal a queer (and, incidentally, losing not just that debate but most debates in that series embarrassingly badly) was theatrics.  But the sorts of personal attacks to which Buckley frequently resorted in print against his enemies (including the elder Kristol) showed not a trace of conscience or personal honor.  Hell, I&#039;m a fan of the guy, but he was a first class son of a bitch.  And being a first class son of a bitch who is an Exonian and a Yalie doesn&#039;t make you less of a son of a bitch.

Which is to say that, uh, one might have thought that, er, vis a vis the bygone age in which the, er, notion of, uh, amour propre was still in what one might call, uh, for lack of a better word in English, the ascendancy it would have been unlikely that, uh, with regard to Buckley or uh his ilk, one might have been so willing to refer to the recently deceased as, uh, a uh, a &quot;frigid little jew girl&quot; the way Mr. Buckley did to Ayn Rand in his, for lack of a better word, published eulogy for her and, whether he was uh, according to what we might call our sentimental impulses, right or wrong vis a vis Ms. Rand, it is nevertheless safe to say that, uh, as Augustine might have said, perhaps did say, in his Confessions (which we read on uh, a warm Autumn day back at uh school in, er, Connecticut or wherever), that particular act falsifies the moral claim one might make with regard to Buckley and that uh, the violation of the sacrosanct suffices to belie and belittle the character of, uh, an individual however, er, expensive and, uh, disheveled his sweater and however toothy his grin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PeeJ&#8211;What makes you think William of Buckley would have objected?  Buckley was clever, well bred, well read, and had a sense of personal style.  By most accounts he was a kind and generous man to people he knew personally and did not regard as enemies.  He probably tipped well and was kind to the help.</p>
<p>But one need only refer to one of the &#8220;RIP&#8221; columns Buckley wrote about someone he disliked who had passed away to understand that there was no personal depth to which Buckley wouldn&#8217;t sink to settle a grudge.  It&#8217;s possible (but inaccurate) to say that Buckley calling Vidal a queer (and, incidentally, losing not just that debate but most debates in that series embarrassingly badly) was theatrics.  But the sorts of personal attacks to which Buckley frequently resorted in print against his enemies (including the elder Kristol) showed not a trace of conscience or personal honor.  Hell, I&#8217;m a fan of the guy, but he was a first class son of a bitch.  And being a first class son of a bitch who is an Exonian and a Yalie doesn&#8217;t make you less of a son of a bitch.</p>
<p>Which is to say that, uh, one might have thought that, er, vis a vis the bygone age in which the, er, notion of, uh, amour propre was still in what one might call, uh, for lack of a better word in English, the ascendancy it would have been unlikely that, uh, with regard to Buckley or uh his ilk, one might have been so willing to refer to the recently deceased as, uh, a uh, a &#8220;frigid little jew girl&#8221; the way Mr. Buckley did to Ayn Rand in his, for lack of a better word, published eulogy for her and, whether he was uh, according to what we might call our sentimental impulses, right or wrong vis a vis Ms. Rand, it is nevertheless safe to say that, uh, as Augustine might have said, perhaps did say, in his Confessions (which we read on uh, a warm Autumn day back at uh school in, er, Connecticut or wherever), that particular act falsifies the moral claim one might make with regard to Buckley and that uh, the violation of the sacrosanct suffices to belie and belittle the character of, uh, an individual however, er, expensive and, uh, disheveled his sweater and however toothy his grin.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cat</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932153</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Best part, of course, is Mr. Ed’s unawaredly ironic “who’s the hitman now?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ironic is not nearly strong enough. It&#039;s beyond projection. Even from his perspective, it makes zero sense. &quot;Hitman?&quot; For politely declining to comment on his identity? That&#039;s not a response, that&#039;s random screeching and poo-flinging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Best part, of course, is Mr. Ed’s unawaredly ironic “who’s the hitman now?”</p></blockquote>
<p>Ironic is not nearly strong enough. It&#8217;s beyond projection. Even from his perspective, it makes zero sense. &#8220;Hitman?&#8221; For politely declining to comment on his identity? That&#8217;s not a response, that&#8217;s random screeching and poo-flinging.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bad Bald Bastard</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932146</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bad Bald Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;If anything, anonymity allows for a freer, more honest exchange of whatever the fuck it is being exchanged here in the blog-o-sphere, as long as it’s kept civil &amp; there aren’t accusations of idiocy &amp; cowardice (Are you listening, Ed?) because someone shows you up for the partisan moron you are. &lt;/I&gt;

Since when have Ed&#039;s ilk supported the freer, more honest exchange of anything?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If anything, anonymity allows for a freer, more honest exchange of whatever the fuck it is being exchanged here in the blog-o-sphere, as long as it’s kept civil &amp; there aren’t accusations of idiocy &amp; cowardice (Are you listening, Ed?) because someone shows you up for the partisan moron you are. </i></p>
<p>Since when have Ed&#8217;s ilk supported the freer, more honest exchange of anything?</p>
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		<title>By: J—</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932145</link>
		<dc:creator>J—</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus, Whelan &lt;a href=&quot;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWJmY2ZiYjMyZDRiZTM2OGQ2ZGZlNTNlYTNiMjQ2MzY=&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;is triumphant&lt;/a&gt; about it, as if having someone tell him someone else&#039;s real name and then broadcasting it is like climbing a fourteener or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus, Whelan <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWJmY2ZiYjMyZDRiZTM2OGQ2ZGZlNTNlYTNiMjQ2MzY=" rel="nofollow">is triumphant</a> about it, as if having someone tell him someone else&#8217;s real name and then broadcasting it is like climbing a fourteener or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Sir Windblown Dentist</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/21965.html#comment-932144</link>
		<dc:creator>Sir Windblown Dentist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who will out Whelan&#039;s source?

Seriously, though, I can see another outing war on the horizon. I, for one, welcome it. Starting with AllahPundit. A knight can dream, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who will out Whelan&#8217;s source?</p>
<p>Seriously, though, I can see another outing war on the horizon. I, for one, welcome it. Starting with AllahPundit. A knight can dream, right?</p>
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		<title>By: PeeJ</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best part, of course, is Mr. Ed&#039;s unawaredly ironic &quot;who&#039;s the hitman now?&quot;   

I wish Willy F. was around to see what they&#039;ve done to his rag.  That would be some sweet schadenfreude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best part, of course, is Mr. Ed&#8217;s unawaredly ironic &#8220;who&#8217;s the hitman now?&#8221;   </p>
<p>I wish Willy F. was around to see what they&#8217;ve done to his rag.  That would be some sweet schadenfreude.</p>
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