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Shorter Byron York
- If I ignore the fact that black people really like Obama, I can make a case that he hasn’t been a very popular president so far. And hey, if I just kick it old skewl and restrict Obama’s popularity ratings to those of white male property owners, then I can make the case that… what, why are you all looking at me like that?
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OneMadClown said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:07
Holy shit, its Harry Potter at 40.
El Cid said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:07
The real measure of Barack Obama’s success or failure is to be found by surveying the conservative white men of Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, and Texas, because they represent the true spirit of remaining loyal to one’s country. That the country to which they’re loyal isn’t the USA is immaterial. It’s the unquestioning loyalty what counts.
mt said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:09
He needs to go outside now and then. I see why he’s hung up on the white thing.
Righteous Bubba said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:12
My fellow Americans except you folks over there…
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:13
Come on, Brad, there are douchier pictures of Byron Ladouche to be had!
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:14
He’s a dumbass, but he sang that Les Miz song great on that British tv show
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:14
On his 100th day in office, Barack Obama enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are.
“….because, as we all know, blacks are only 3/5s of a real person.”
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:15
Holy shit, its Harry Potter at 40.
Quick, someone Photoshop a lighting bolt on his forehead.
Um, better yet, just hit him in the head with a real one.
TomMil said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:16
jeez, couldn’t he count 3/5’s of the black folk.
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:17
the conservative white men of Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, South Carolina, and Texas
You mean the noble patriotic citizens of the USA who still celebrate the racially-based treasonous sedition of their forefathers?
Lawnguylander said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:19
There are many people with less pigmentation than him but Byron York is still the whitest man in the world.
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:19
jeez, couldn’t he count 3/5’s of the black folk.
That’s the beauty of that whole concept tho!
“Thay’res too many black folk! Sense thay onnee count foah 3/5’s of a poisen, Ah demand you remove eleventy-one dozen of them!”
Marco said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:20
Some of America’s white people have a problem with a black guy as their boss? You don’t say, Byron.
(it’s like he never watched Fox News last year)
owlbear1 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:20
York does he impression of ‘caught-in-the-headlights’ made famous by Benny Hill.
That Girl said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:21
Um, I think Mr. York is playing the race card, which we all know is NOT OK.
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:22
Holy shit, its Harry Potter at 40.
I think he looks like the son of Harry Potter and Chuckles LGF Johnson.
Nom de Plume said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:23
and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are.
What Actor said above, but I am just at a loss over this one. There really is no plainer way of saying “Black people don’t count” than this, with the possible exception of “Black people don’t count”.
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:24
“Thay’res too many black folk! Sense thay onnee count foah 3/5’s of a poisen, Ah demand you remove eleventy-one dozen of them!”
Actor, baby, it seems you let a little “Brooklynese” slip in here. I believe the proper Southron pronunciation is “pus-son”.
Candy said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:27
Do these idiots ever actually think about what they’re saying? If this doofus read what he wrote back to himself, surely he wouldn’t publish such an obviously racist pile of feces? Would he? Just how dumb is he, anyway?
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:27
I believe the proper Southron pronunciation is “pus-son”.
The Men of Southron seem to say it closer to “puh-suhn”, actually. More – I dunno, palatized or some linguistic shit like that. What the hell do I know, I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and work for a Bircher. SCience? The hell is that? That’s the thing with the mayonnaise, right?
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:30
The comments under BY’s screed are even more batshit insane than the original post.
The Men of Southron seem to say it closer to “puh-suhn”, actually. More – I dunno, palatized or some linguistic shit like that.
I wonder how the Variags of Khand would pronounce it…
Matt T. said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:31
You mean the noble patriotic citizens of the USA who still celebrate the racially-based treasonous sedition of their forefathers?
There was a big stink on the local fishwrapper’s online comments because there was a Confederate Memorial Day celebration last week where an original copy of the Confederate Constitution was on display, and no one actually came to the event. Also, at one of the statues Downtown that’s connected to some Civil War something or other, there’s like maybe a dozen Confederate and Bonnie Blue flags and six or seven bouquets, and it’s a big statue, too, so it looks kinda pathetic. Same people who’re pissed about the lack of attendance are pissed that the rest of us in the Classic City aren’t properly honoring the Confederate dead, and we’re all like “Dude, that was 140-something years ago, we have a drought and no friggin’ jobs to deal with now, plus it’s finals and some asshole shot some amatuer actors for some reason no one can figure out, so piss off okay?”
White people are so funny sometimes.
Candy said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:32
I actually clicked on the link because I wanted to see what it was he actually said or wrote, but my stupid internets refuse to open the link. I think they’re in cohoots with WP to make my intertoobz experience suck.
I’m pretty sure I can trust that Brad has it right, though.
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:33
White people are so funny sometimes.
Yes, but it’s black humor.
Bmacsnm said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:33
Read the comments @ Mr York’s column, folks. Hokey smokes. “Blacks pay no taxes” “When your income consists of a goverment check, there is no bad economic policy”, and on and on. When I read this crap coming from pundits, I figure it’s just crap to stir up the masses. Somehow, I can’t grok that the masses actually buy it.
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:33
Actor, baby, it seems you let a little “Brooklynese” slip in here. I believe the proper Southron pronunciation is “pus-son”.
Sorry. I slipped from Alabama over to Norleans. Dat right dere wuz mah probem.
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:33
Actual unretouched York commenter:
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:34
Yes, but it’s black humor
D’Oh!
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:35
Just how dumb is he, anyway?
At least as dumb as Byron Yor–
Oh.
PeeJ said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:37
Twenty-one percent of whites say their view of the president is unfavorable…
Hmm, there’s that number again. Where else have I seen that number – or one very very close to it – lately?
Also, I note with some surprise that he did not use the phrase “working class whites.”
clb72 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:37
The reason he and other Republicans wouldn’t see this opinion as racist is the same reason they can’t figure out why they can’t get into double digits with African-American voters. They really just cannot see it.
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:39
clb72 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:37
Agreed.
It’s like going out and carefully cultivating the Hispanic vote (which should have been a slamdunk after Elian Gonzalez, with the implication that any Hispanic would be deported back home) and then, I don’t know, scream about closing the borders.
Candy said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:39
Sorry. I slipped from Alabama over to Norleans. Dat right dere wuz mah probem.
Irish channel Nawlins. ;-)
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:39
See, now when I said Norleans, I was speaking as a Yankee.
JM said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:39
Oh NOES!!!!!1
Obama lost the trailer park!
Higgs Boson said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:42
Instead of thinking that more black people like Obama, he acts like everybody is rating Obama on a 10 point scale or something, and since black people are giving him 10s and other people aren’t, the results are skewed. Byron York is a very stupid chundermuffin.
Matt T. said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:42
The monolith of the black voter must be corralled and controlled at any cost.
I said it a number of times during the election and I’ll say it again unashamedly: a surprising number of my fellow Honky Americans have never, ever interacted with a person of the African-American persuasion with any sort of real depth and they’ve never made a real, personal connection with one single, solitary black person. They might know someone in passing, but that’s about it.
That’s the only explanation for so many people thinking dumb shit like that. “Monolith of the black voter” my foot.
ignatov said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:42
I like this comment from one of York’s readers: “These numbers clearly indicate that white people are only opposing Obama and his policies because he’s black.”
laym said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:46
Those blacks are cruelly hiding York’s pony. Cruel, cruel blacks.
That Girl said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:46
Holy cow. The lack of self-awareness is stunning. How can that first sentence go with those last two sentences?
Sarcastro said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:47
I wonder how the Variags of Khand would pronounce it…
Correctly.
Southron isn’t just one dialect. While someone from LA (Lower Alabama) would say pu-son a fellow Alabamian from, say, Sand Mountain up at the ass end of the Appalachians, would say it Peer-sin (you have to say that with your teeth clenched together for the proper effect).
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:47
Same people who’re pissed about the lack of attendance are pissed that the rest of us in the Classic City aren’t properly honoring the Confederate dead
You know what would really honk them off? A statue of “Stonewall Jackson” as a Leatherman, commemorating this event.
The monolith of the black voter must be
corralled and controlled at any costunearthed near Tycho crater, ushering in a new era of cosmic communion with benevolent aliens.Matt T. said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:50
Or “pie-son”. Or if you’re from my part of Mississippi, it’s one syllable. Actually, it’s not so much a word as it’s an exhalation of air that sounds like a syllable: “POIs’n”.
When I went to school at UF in Gainesville, those people thought I was from somewhere in Central Europe. Or, as we say in Enon Holler, “Centr’l Yurp”.
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:50
Best Headline About York’s Piece:
Investigative Reporter Byron York Exposes Black Support for Democratic President
Bitter Scribe said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:50
Quick, someone Photoshop a lighting bolt on his forehead.
Um, better yet, just hit him in the head with a real one.
Good idea. We wouldn’t want to hit him where it might do some damage.
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:51
When I went to school at UF in Gainesville, those people thought I was from somewhere in Central Europe. Or, as we say in Enon Holler,
“Centr’l Yurp”“Whar????”.Fixed your post
kc said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:51
Shorter Byron York commenters: “The trouble with blacks is, they’re all racists.”
Harry Potter said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:52
Don’t compare me to that muggle dickwad. I’d expelliarmus his ass.
Matt T. said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:52
I didn’t say they knew where or what it was, just how they’d pronounce it, Mr. Smartypants.
laym said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:53
The monolith of the black voter must be corralled and controlled at any cost. Racism is over except in the imaginations of the Media and the Politicians (but I repeat myself). The rest of us could care less about the color of someone’s skin.
Could care less, except when they all vote as a group!
Repeat from beginning.
PeeJ said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:54
B⁴, I’d have him as a drag queen, seeing as how they were the foremost rioters.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:55
The via is a definite must read. I’m left with but one small bit of snark to add:
OMG! Byron York totally disses Thomas Sowell. I demand a “to-the-death” gladiatorial contest to determine who is the most conservative!
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:56
I didn’t say they knew where or what it was, just how they’d pronounce it, Mr. Smartypants.
Mea culpa.
Oh wait, they might take that as an offer, and next thing you know, I’d be squealing like a pig….
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:57
B?, I’d have him as a drag queen, seeing as how they were the foremost rioters.
Thanks for the correction. It would also serve to eliminate any possible “I think he’s supposed to be a cop of some sort” interpretations.
tigrismus said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:57
The monolith of the black voter must be corralled and controlled at any cost.
My read: you just can’t keep the black monolith down, you have to manhandle it, and he’s just the cowboy to do it.
SomeNYGuy said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:58
Also, I note with some surprise that he did not use the phrase “working class whites.”
When has Lord Byron, Duke of York given a fraction of a shit for the “working class”?
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:59
I like this bit, too:
The Obama Effect even spills over to the subject of Vice President Joe Biden. Forty-four percent of white respondents say they approve of the way Biden is handling his job, while 81 percent of blacks approve.
I wonder if anybody’s going to adopt the hairplugs/combover look in solidarity.
Paul T Lazaro said,
April 29, 2009 at 21:59
Put a tiny lil’ sammitch between his smooth white hands….
There. Fixed.
PeeJ said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:03
OT, Did someone spread a big load of trollbane around here? Maybe the Motel 6 has blocked his MAC address.
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Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:04
No wait, I’ve got one more.
Ummm, why? Because shut up that’s why. And in that case, it seems reasonable to guess that if Byron York starts fellating strange men in public washrooms, he will likely swallow and not spit.
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:04
OT, Did someone spread a big load of trollbane around here? Maybe the Motel 6 has blocked his MAC address.
He can’t type, his hand is all cramped up from his “enjoyment” of the previous thread’s photo.
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:06
And in that case, it seems reasonable to guess that if Byron York starts fellating strange men in public washrooms, he will likely swallow and not spit.
It would be irresponsible yada yada yada…
Smut Clyde said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:07
The monolith of the black voter must be corralled and controlled at any cost.
“2001: Space Odyssey” as a Western?
Worst remake EVAH.
Smut Clyde said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:09
cosmic communion with benevolent aliens.
I see what you do there.
PeeJ said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:10
And in that case, it seems reasonable to guess that if Byron York starts fellating strange men in public washrooms
Whattaya mean, starts?
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:11
Whattaya mean, starts?
Yeah. York’s been sucking for years.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:14
The important part was about the public washrooms… no you guys are right. My bad for trying to imply that Byron York can’t help sticking stranger’s PENISes into his mouth.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:15
Ummm, I meant strangers’.
And yes I am trolling for NOM de Proon with ‘pos’trophe’s’
D.N. Nation said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:15
Matt T.:
Are you talking about the anchors on Broad Street?
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:16
OMG! Byron York totally disses Thomas Sowell. I demand a “to-the-death” gladiatorial contest to determine who is the most conservative!
As the “fight music” from the old Star Trek series plays in the background.
BA BA BA BA BA BABA BA BAH eeeeeeYRUMP eeeeeeYRUMP!
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:16
I vote 20 quatloos on the pasty white one!
El Cid said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:16
Conservatives are working very diligently at finding more voting demographic blocs whose votes they do not want. York is simply reinforcing them in their task.
Bitter Scribe said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:19
Conservatives are working very diligently at finding more voting demographic blocs whose votes [they say] they do not want [because they stand no chance of ever getting them].
Fixed.
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:19
Forty Quatloos on the Oreo!
Matt T. said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:23
D.N. Nation,
No, the statue thing in front of the anchors on Broad. Right there at the crosswalk in front of the Arches.
That Girl said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:25
This is also a classic from the Weigel piece:
Smut Clyde said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:25
The Obama Effect even spills over to the subject of Vice President Joe Biden. Forty-four percent of white respondents say they approve of the way Biden is handling his job, while 81 percent of blacks approve.
Oh that’s good. If white respondents favour a particular black politician less than black respondents do => OMG teh blacks are
racistblindly invested in their group identity…But if white respondents favour a particular white politician less than black respondents do => OMG teh blacks are still blindly invested in their group identity.
I can’t think of any sufficiently strong epithets for this fucknugget and his impervious belief system. Someone should get Just Alison out of bed.
D.N. Nation said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:29
Oh, that, right. Good for drunk-leanin’.
D.N. Nation said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:32
To be fair, I’ve always thought of Tom Sowell as “too small to measure.”
MzNicky said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:38
Holy cow. The lack of self-awareness is stunning. How can that first sentence go with those last two sentences?
As a Suthrener who hears this shit every day, let me try to interpret.
The monolith of the black voter must be corralled and controlled at any cost.
Blacks comprise a racially-identifiable group, which means their capacity to overpower everything with their blackness must be controlled before they start running EVERYTHING!, and blacks are obviously the racists because they’re black, and scary.
Racism is over except in the imaginations of the Media and the Politicians (but I repeat myself).
Now that we have a black president, who isn’t really black anyway he’s “mixed,” racism no longer exists, except on the part of Lie-brul politicians and their lie-head minions, the Lie-brul media, who just want to keep pretending there’s racism so their BLACK PRESIDENT will keep spending money on special programs that will benefit lazy blacks and bankrupt the white man who is the only one who works for a living in this socialist country.
The rest of us could care less about the color of someone’s skin.
Because all those monolithic blacks hate whites, God only knows why, that means they’re the real racists, not us Suthren whites who know by now to not be racist out loud, which we aren’t anyway. Racist, that is.
See? Completely logical and most of all not at all racist.
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:41
Can someone clue me in on something?
I admit, I haven’t paid much attention to politics these past few weeks because the hockey playoffs were gearing up….fuckingRangerscan’tputapuckintoanocean,butIdigress…has Obama proposed a single piece of legislation that could even remotely be construed as benefitting blacks ahead of whites?
D.N. Nation said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:44
YES! YES! YESSSSSS!
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:44
OMG! Byron York totally disses Thomas Sowell.
Imagine how hurt Alan Keyes, “leader of the resistance” must be.
OT, but that “Sun Ra” website unintentionally exposes an extraterrestrial connection to the plot to put BHO in the White House.
“Equally as mystifying is the fact that Sun Ra has no legal birth certificate”
Chief Editor Korir must be informed!
actor212 said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:47
YES! YES! YESSSSSS!
I gag…with jaws wide opennnnnnnnnnn….
Mouthful of Kelp said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:48
Where’d you get that old photo of Chevy Chase?
LittlePig said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:49
Southron isn’t just one dialect.
Lord no. Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia are all quite distinct from each other, and each state varies north to south. And Cajun is still a whole ‘nother animal. But, while I have misidentified a Cajun accent as Manhattan a time or two, the only creature saying “poisen” comes from around toity-toid and toid avenah.
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:50
bankrupt the white man who is the only one who works for a living in this socialist country
The truly wild thing about this? White guys down here seem to actually believe it, in spite of the fact that if you go into any damn goods/services distributor around here which could be categorized as “low-wage”, inevitably there’s a cracker in the front office and the car repair/loading dock/cleaning crew – ie. the people who do the actual freaking labor – are all inevitably black, with a couple white folks thrown in as a token.
tigrismus said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:50
OMG! Byron York totally disses Thomas Sowell. I demand a “to-the-death” gladiatorial contest to determine who is the most conservative!
ALAN KEYES. I would pay cash money to see that death match.
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:51
I gag…with jaws wide opennnnnnnnnnn….
Somebody please hit Steve with a Sapp.
LittlePig said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:51
YES! YES! YESSSSSS!
As I noted over at TBogg’s joint, that’s the sixth seal. We’re dead meat.
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:52
Or is that Scott with a S(t)app?
You can see how much attention I pay to the lil’ Jesus-creep.
LittlePig said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:53
“2001: Space Odyssey” as a Western?
Worst remake EVAH.
“Maw Gaud, Pahdnah, Hit’s fulla sta-ruhs”
MzNicky said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:53
LittlePig: Accents vary from one part of my state to the other. East Tennesseans from way way up in the northeastern corner have the high twang usually associated with media-stereotyped “white trash.” Down Memphis-way they sound more like folks on the Andy Griffith show.
tigrismus said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:54
GodDAMMIT, Bastard, you and your goldurn fast typing fingers.
cowalker said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:55
The ending sentence is just too precious.
He had no purpose in listing all the poll results except to try to show that black Americans are racist. So how to summarize? He goes with the lame “I’m just trying to be helpful here and remind Obama that he’s got a deep well of support among black Americans in case he might forget. Heaven forbid he should one day find himself in political trouble. Or that crazy white people should be forced to commit violent acts by the black blackity black agenda of Obama.”
I’ve read better endings in essays by fourth-graders about a class trip. “We’re very lucky that the hard workers at the George W. Bush Wastewater Treatment Plant can stand the smell so we can have clean, safe water.”
Fuck on Toast said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:56
Cameron Mackintosh: bite me.
MzNicky said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:56
White guys down here seem to actually believe it
Oh yes. I wasn’t snarking in that interpretation. Dead serious. This is how these people think.
LittlePig said,
April 29, 2009 at 22:59
The rest of us could care less about the color of someone’s skin.
I don’t know that it is all outright hate, MzNicky. I think a lot of it is that concept of black people as inferior is so ingrained in that mindset, a lot of them really *don’t* see it (fish don’t see the water, etc.). They think more blacks are poor, more blacks are in prison, blah blah blah is just how things are in their “equal” world. The thought of treating a black person as just a regular old human being *is* special rights, as far as they are concerned.
But hey, if Republicans want to be the party of the Klan, more power to ‘em. They’ll be annoying, and shameful to decent people everywhere, but they will also be a permanent Republican super-minority.
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:04
they will also be a permanent Republican super-minority
Oh, that’s just because the International Globalist Bankers are keeping them oppressed.
LittlePig said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:05
LittlePig: Accents vary from one part of my state to the other. East Tennesseans from way way up in the northeastern corner have the high twang usually associated with media-stereotyped “white trash.” Down Memphis-way they sound more like folks on the Andy Griffith show.
Yep. The Carolina (High English) influence shows on the east side, while Memphis has more of the flat Delta tones. It sounds that way all the way to Little Rock (here) then starts getting more “hillbilly” as you head west to my native Ozarks. My neutral (un-affected) voice is only-slightly-flattened hillbilly.
My father-in-law lives in Union City these days, right up there by Kentucky in NW Tenn. I enjoy heading up into Kentucky and hearing that variation (the drawls get longer the farther from Old Man River you get)
tigrismus said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:06
they will also be a permanent Republican super-minority
I don’t care how super they are, NO SPECIAL RIGHTS.
sarah said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:06
damn.
LittlePig said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:12
“Open the pod bay door, Pilgrim, or ah’ll shoot ya where ya stand”
MzNicky said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:12
I don’t know that it is all outright hate … a lot of it is that concept of black people as inferior is so ingrained in that mindset, a lot of them really *don’t* see it … The thought of treating a black person as just a regular old human being *is* special rights, as far as they are concerned.
I think what you’ve just identified is what I indeed would call “hate,” although I don’t think I used that word before.
Wyatt Watts III said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:15
Dear Miss Margie,
Today on our field trip to Republicanland, we met Miss Foxx who told us a story about a boy named Matthew Shepard whose murder was a hoax, and then we met Mr. York who told us all a fairy tale about some scary white people who hate President Obama. But there weren’t many people in Republicanland, and a lot of us kids got really scared. When I finish writing this report, can I go see the school nurse? I don’t feel very well.
Sincerely,
L’il Joey McQuincunx
LittlePig said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:20
I think what you’ve just identified is what I indeed would call “hate,” although I don’t think I used that word before.
You’re right, I misconstrued.
I think of “hate” as being active, and there is surely that, but hate requires fear, and I think a lot of (especially older) Southern folk aren’t afraid of black people as much as they really believe they are less-than-human. It’s more a passive astonishment that people would actually *want* to treat them as equals.
If anything, hate would be a step up for these folks. With hate they would have to admit to themselves they were racist. For the congenitally bigoted, they really don’t think they are racist.
Pere Ubu said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:22
L’il Joey McQuincunx
Oh, come on now!
With a name like that he must be a liberally-biased Frenchy treasonous agent of the International Banker You-Know-Whos.
Another kiwi said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:30
They could be brothers although Roddy had talent
Jacob Singer said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:31
Though I’m no big fan of Bill Maher, I do love it when a one or two of these racist wingnuts are on the panel and get confronted by an Acual Black Person Who Calls Them On Their Bullshit. The stammering, backtracking, and muttering denials are highly entertaining.
Jacob Singer said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:33
“If anything, hate would be a step up for these folks. With hate they would have to admit to themselves they were racist. For the congenitally bigoted, they really don’t think they are racist.”
You see this in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution all the time.
“I’m no racist. I know I’m better than black people.”
That Girl said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:43
Yes, it’s pretty clear they’ve convinced themselves of that. It’s tough to label, but to me it looks like an actual pathology. I mean, how else could they look at their own written words and not see what is there, plain as day? It seems delusional.
Zandar1 said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:46
“It’s okay,” York was quoted as saying later. “The only black liberals who read the internet are Eugene Robinson and that Willy Yam guy.”
MzNicky said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:54
That Girl: Well, see, they’re fucking stupid.
That Girl said,
April 29, 2009 at 23:55
MzNicky: Yes, I think you nailed it.
Lord Byron said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:00
“But, but…
some of my best friends,a couple of the families in my neighborhood,a couple of my co-workersOh, to hell with it, you win this round, Libs!
tigrismus said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:01
But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are.
As a commenter pointed out at TAP, it’s actually the case that Obama’s low ratings among racist crackers make some of his positions seem less popular overall than they actually are.
Smut Clyde said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:15
As a commenter pointed out at TAP
It’s just as well that you passed on that comment now, rather than mention it a couple of hours ago, which would have left the rest of us with nothing to say.
trizzlor said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:15
I think York could have some sort of twisted point that black people blindly support a black leader regardless of his policy (not dissimilar to the way we often marginalize the 22% Bush supporters as blind followers and bigots) except for the fact that, as he mentions in his piece, blacks also have sky-high approval of Biden, who’s not very black last time I checked.
Regardless, now that our guy’s in charge and seems to be handling things rationally, I’ve relaxed a bit about the wing-nut pundits and simply see their role as that of cheerleaders rather than analysists; Bill Kristol seeks the silver lining in republican failures (“Specter switching is good for the GOP!”) and York takes the “reverse-racism” wedding dress out of the closet every once in a while and wonders what could have been if he didn’t get jilted.
Pere Ubu said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:16
which would have left the rest of us with nothing to say
Not that it would have prevented us, of course.
acrannymint said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:18
I have it on good authority (a coworker with a husband from Tenn and my sister who lives west of Nashville) that when you want think someone is an idiot you say ” Bless his heart” so “Bryon York -bless your heart”. If your from Baltimore – it is “Lord love em”
acrannymint said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:20
at the risk of riling whomever was so concerned about people posting to correct typos – if you’re from Baltimore ….
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:37
Here in our heathenish lands, we just say, “Fuck! Fuckin’ fucker’s fuckin’ fucked!”
Candy said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:40
Here in our heathenish lands, we just say, “Fuck! Fuckin’ fucker’s fuckin’ fucked!”
Do you live in Iowa* too? Cause that sounds like Des Moinese.
*People have lots of misconceptions about Iowa.
LittlePig said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:45
“Bless his heart” is Southern for “Lord, please forgive me for what I am about to say/have just said about this person”.
Examples I have heard (not as jokes, mind you, in conversations):
“He was such an ugly baby they had to tie a pork chop around his neck to get the dog to play with him, bless his heart”.
“Poor little thing, bless his heart, he ain’t got the sense God gave a grasshopper’s be-hind”
“Bless her heart, she’s too mean to ever get a husband”.
LittlePig said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:47
And I have heard “God love ‘em” as a Northerly alternative (not ‘Lord love ‘em” though).
Doctorb said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:55
You really ought to give Iowa a try (provided you are contrary).
PeeJ said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:59
I believe that’s the first time I’ve ever seen quincuncx anywhere except in a crossword puzzle grid.
handy said,
April 30, 2009 at 0:59
Praise Jesus!
Smut Clyde said,
April 30, 2009 at 1:03
Has PeeJ never read any James Blish?!
‘Quincuncx’ is of course the Belgian spelling.
Smut Clyde said,
April 30, 2009 at 1:09
In the interminable story that I’m sporadically writing for the my daughter, the most recent chapter contained the phrase “a squad of police bore down on him like a quincunx of bowling-balls converging on a skittle.”
She didn’t even complain.
PeeJ said,
April 30, 2009 at 1:15
That writing certainly is sporadic.
I haven’t read Blish since I was barely a teenager. Always meant to revisit but never got around to him.
Knights in White Satin said,
April 30, 2009 at 1:24
It could work both ways. For instance, Bush’s ratings would have been a LOT higher if not for those Arab Americans and Sikhs (anyone wearing a turban) dragging them down with their disapproval and all that.
Euripides said,
April 30, 2009 at 1:29
Thanks for the laughs LittlePig !
HAL: Luk Dave, I can see yew’re really upset about this. I honestly recon yew ought ta sit down calmly, tekk a stress pill, `n` recon thangs over
MzNicky said,
April 30, 2009 at 1:51
LittlePig: As I’m sure you know, the “bless his/her heart” also serves as the ultimate passive-aggressive Suthren shibboleth, as in: “Oh, she just ain’t been the same since she lost her mind and started screwin’ every man in town and her husband left her for that red-haired waitress down t’ the SuperX, bless her heart.”
bayville said,
April 30, 2009 at 1:54
…And he is really unpopular in regular people places like Utah, Oklahoma and at NASCAR events which the librul media, of course, ignores.
Barry da man Obamacan said,
April 30, 2009 at 1:58
Let me take this opportunity to thank you for your support.
Now, go back to your regular programming.
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 30, 2009 at 2:06
As I’m sure you know, the “bless his/her heart” also serves as the ultimate passive-aggressive Suthren shibboleth
I thought that “I’ll pray for you” had that distinction.
Barry da man Obamacan said,
April 30, 2009 at 2:13
Don’t make me call Scare Force 1 on yur azz.
Another kiwi said,
April 30, 2009 at 2:26
Here in New Zild, when we wish to diss someone, we first say. “that fucker deserves this”
ie “That fucker deserves this, he is very shaky about the past perfect continuous tense in Latin translation”
MzNicky said,
April 30, 2009 at 3:08
B4: The “I’ll pray for you,” while certainly p/a, also is distinctly sanctimonious and is usually hissed out with overtones of envy and petulance.
Rightwingsnarkle said,
April 30, 2009 at 3:09
Shorter York: “I’m a fucking wanker.”
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist said,
April 30, 2009 at 3:47
Re: Southernspeak, I don’t get to hear it much here in Utah, which is a pity because I think it’s beautiful. I visited New Orleans not long pre-Katrina and was utterly smitten by all the different regional accents I heard (and languages; I encountered one guy yelling on the phone in what I’m pretty sure was honest-to-God Cajun French).
Nobody called me “cher”, which was a bit disappointing, but one very Elvis-ish waiter did address me as “baaaaaaaaby.”
N__B said,
April 30, 2009 at 4:18
Nobody called me “cher”, which was a bit disappointing, but one very Elvis-ish waiter did address me as “baaaaaaaaby.”
Nobody’s ever called me “cher” but several waiters have called me “sonny.”
Mentis Fugit said,
April 30, 2009 at 5:39
Holy shit, its Harry Potter at 40.
So who cast Ludicrus Tonsorius on him?
Johnny Pez said,
April 30, 2009 at 6:05
“Pardner, this here palaver ain’t got no useful purpose.”
Johnny Pez said,
April 30, 2009 at 6:35
1849: A WESTERN ODYSSEY
by Stan Kubrick & Art Clarke
ACT 1, SCENE 1
(Pull back from a dusty trail to reveal a team of horses pulling a covered wagon. Two men sit on the buckboard, DAVE and FRANK, dressed in buckskins and cowboy hats. Behind them is HAL, a vintage Babbage-type Analytical Engine. Behind HAL are three men in open coffins. As we pan across the three we can see they are asleep rather than dead.)
FRANK
How long you reckon till we reach Jupiter City?
DAVE
Bout a year, I reckon. How bout you, Hal?
HAL
Yup. Bout a year.
FRANK
Figure we can get those three drunks up an about by then, Hal?
HAL
Yup.
DAVE
Frank, you see them Injuns back there throwin’ bones around?
FRANK
Yup.
DAVE
What do you reckon all that was about?
FRANK
Don’t rightly know, Dave. Reckon we’ll find out when we reach Jupiter City.
HAL
Wouldn’t count on that, Frank.
Gabriel Ratchet said,
April 30, 2009 at 6:36
Ah, so it’s the Southern version of “With all due respect,” then?
Smut Clyde said,
April 30, 2009 at 7:08
1849: A WESTERN ODYSSEY
by Stan Kubrick & Art Clarke
This is why I spend every waking minute compulsively reloading S,N! threads.
Gabriel Ratchet said,
April 30, 2009 at 7:47
Yeah, a fuckin’ classic that was.
pedestrian said,
April 30, 2009 at 8:18
Black people are so racist that their racist support of Obama even buoys Bill Clinton’s ratings.
Bigots.
sjelly said,
April 30, 2009 at 8:51
White people have been voting for white people for president for ever. Where’s the analysis of why they keep doing that? (Could it be that they voted for them *because* they were white? No, of course not!) Black people have voted for white people for ever (I mean, once they were freed from slavery, once they got they right to vote, and could pay the poll tax, and avoided getting lynched on their way to the polls, and like that) sometimes in huge numbers, occasionally even choosing white candidates over black ones. Where’s the analysis of why they would do that? Apparently, black people can’t see beyond skin color, whereas white people are past masters (yes, I know) at it. Racism is dead people, why can’t you see that?
Smut Clyde said,
April 30, 2009 at 10:49
Holy shit, its Harry Potter at 40.
The most recent binding legal opinion I received from my sartorial advisors is that it’s OK for Stephen Fry to look like that; not so much anyone else. Not that I ever paid much attention to advice from my sartorial advisors.
Paging Dr Freud said,
April 30, 2009 at 13:15
The
monolithGIGANTIC PENIS of the black voter must be corralled and controlled at any cost.Rusty Shackleford said,
April 30, 2009 at 16:43
I visited New Orleans not long pre-Katrina….
Coastal Zone ‘05 by any chance, Xecky?
MzNicky said,
April 30, 2009 at 19:24
Paging Dr. Freud: Yeah, there’s that too.
[smacks forehead]
How could I have forgotten that one!
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist said,
April 30, 2009 at 20:22
Coastal Zone ‘05 by any chance, Xecky?
I was in N.O.LA for a friend’s wedding.
Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist said,
April 30, 2009 at 20:24
Nobody’s ever called me “cher” but several waiters have called me “sonny.”
Did they charge you for that, or was it pro bono?
actor212 said,
April 30, 2009 at 20:38
Did they charge you for that, or was it pro bono?
ow.
rabit said,
April 30, 2009 at 21:47
Has anyone noticed that Byron York is Ozzy in conservative drag? About as articulate, too.