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African-American: Your Doin It Wrong
Step 1: Engage Right-Wing Message Machine
Call the Boston FOX News affiliate (their headquarters is right off the Common, diagonally across the street from the Statehouse) and tell them you’re a student at Harvard Law School where you work for Alan Dershowitz, and you’re a former speechwriter for the South African, uh, not black-people party, and president of Students Against the International Muslim Conspiracy, and X and Y conservative groups, bla-bla, this-that, and hey, Barney Frank is speaking at the Kennedy School of Government, and how about you come and cover it and we’ll give him some hell about his responsibility for the financial crisis?1 And FOX is like, Barney Frank? Ding-ding-ding! Heh-heh. Okay, sure, nothing definite, but if nothing else is going on we’ll send a guy. What’s your name — Adam? Joel? Okay, whatever, great. Maybe we’ll see you there.
Step 3: Hero! Of! Conservatism!
Step 4: Engage Liberal WTF!? Machine
roy edroso said,
April 9, 2009 at 8:46
Blargh First Amendment! January you became Chairman? But conservative I care about poor people AIG billions! Bush? Paulson? YOU LIE! BLARGH! HITLER OBAMA JESUS! I trust I have made myself clear (retucks shirt).
Have you, sir, no decency, whatever that is? At long last. Blargh.
Johnny Pez said,
April 9, 2009 at 8:49
Blackface and jazz hands? You’d think in South Africa of all places there’d be a law against that.
g said,
April 9, 2009 at 8:57
God, I love Barney. He just knows what he’s talking about, and isn’t afraid to say it.
g said,
April 9, 2009 at 9:00
And so nicely, too.
Enraged Bull Limpet said,
April 9, 2009 at 9:27
Barney is my little brother’s name, and I love him too. As a translucent mosty-Irishman, I welcome these expositions of the other side’s color deafness.
Keith said,
April 9, 2009 at 10:26
Heh, on Hardball, they played a heavily edited clip where the student just assails him with the accusations and then it cuts, without warning, to the part where he calls the student a “right-wing” something or other and the girl shouts all hysterically, “YOU SHOULDN’T LABEL HIM!!” Then the host of the show was all, “I agree! He should have answered the question rather than just label the guy, ‘right-wing’!” Jeezum crow… Someone should really dig up that clip too. Just to show the contrast. It wasn’t Mathews, by the way. That guy who’s always on Morning Joe was filling in as the host.
islmfaoscist said,
April 9, 2009 at 10:27
Meanwhile, from a drafty hotel penthouse somewhere in College Station, as they watch the manufactured controversy to blame Barney Frank on FoxNews, Phil and Wendy Gramm chortle from the jacuzzi tub they are sharing, passing each other little moist bits of frozen cheesecake and trying to guess from the sounds the bubbles make whose farts are whose.
MFB said,
April 9, 2009 at 10:40
Thank you, thank you, thank you, America, for taking Joel Pollack away from us. Pleez keep him!
(Admittedly, he wasn’t a police spy or a death-squad commander like a lot of his Democratic Alliance colleagues, but he is an appalling little squirt, just like his former boss Tony Leon.)
M. Bouffant said,
April 9, 2009 at 11:04
trying to guess from the sounds
There are better ways to guess.
d said,
April 9, 2009 at 11:04
this is good too. for some reason wapo published an op-ed written by little joel whining about propaganda in arabic language textbooks. but, he’s a moron:
I have been a student of Arabic at Harvard University for several years. In his July 5 op-ed, “Teaching Arabic and Propaganda,” Joel Pollak distorted the content of Georgetown University Press’s “Al-Kitaab” textbook and Harvard’s Arabic language program.
Mr. Pollak claimed that the maps in “Al-Kitaab” do not include Israel. There are three maps in the book: On Page 13, Israel is represented without the West Bank and Gaza. On Page 389, two historical maps (from the Ottoman era to World War I) predate Israel’s existence.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/08/AR2008070802590.html
Darth Revan said,
April 9, 2009 at 12:52
You forgot Step 5: ???? and Step 6: PROFIT!
Anyway, yeah – Joel Pollak does strike me as being an annoying little dweeb. Something tells me that he will be getting a ‘fellowship’ from the Heritage Foundation or some other front for the WWM in a few weeks’ time – if he doesn’t have one already.
OTB said,
April 9, 2009 at 13:06
>You forgot Step 5: ???? and Step 6: PROFIT!
I think step 5 in this case is: Hero Of Conservatism pens op-ed for CNN telling us the thrilling behind the scenes story of how he chose his questions, how his hand trembled as he wrote them, how the gravity and importance of his heroic act stirred in him….blah blah blah
Then: Profit!
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
April 9, 2009 at 13:11
Speaking of the WaPoo…
for some reason wapo published an op-ed written by little joel whining about propaganda in arabic language textbooks.
As the common taters at TPM suggested, there is a firewall between the WaPoo editmatorial pages and actual facts.
RvB said,
April 9, 2009 at 13:18
“Jump[ing] into little Chaplinesque jigs and pumping their parasols to and fro” does exactly sound like the war dance of the conservative columnist.
Doghouse Riley said,
April 9, 2009 at 13:52
Mr. Pollak claimed that the maps in “Al-Kitaab” do not include Israel.
That how he wound up at Harvard Law instead of the Israeli army?
Arky said,
April 9, 2009 at 14:19
Res ipsa loquitur:
Slightly Surprised said,
April 9, 2009 at 14:27
Really? You think Barney Frank got the best of this?
Look, Barney knows he’s going down in history as the sleazebag who took money from {insert financial player here} while heading up the committee supposedly watching over the financial industry. It is slightly surprising to watch him try to brazen out a position where he just happened to be a close observer of this meltdown, with no power or control.
Barney is scum. It is puzzling to me to watch you liberals act like any criticism of taking
bribesmoney from the people that destroyed our economy is a conservative plot. I don’t think history is going to judge Barney and Chris Dodd and Paulson and Bush kindly.J— said,
April 9, 2009 at 14:42
Pollak:
More Pollak (from a few years back):
Theatre!
And, of course, he has a blog.
This excange with Frank is a break for him, as it appears his usual shtick is to run around challenging the current Israel/apartheid South Africa comparison whenever it raises its ugly head.
By the way, here’s how the Harvard University Gazette reported Frank’s talk. Pollak is an aside.
Legalize said,
April 9, 2009 at 15:18
Nuts, lack of Flash ruins my enjoyment of pwnage yet again!
J— said,
April 9, 2009 at 15:23
Joel Pollak, March 6, 2008.
Joel Pollak, November 2, 2008.
J Neo Marvin said,
April 9, 2009 at 15:26
O’Reilly’s already milking this.
Legalize said,
April 9, 2009 at 15:26
Is Joel Pollak Twoofie?
Jon H said,
April 9, 2009 at 15:37
” That guy who’s always on Morning Joe was filling in as the host.”
That would be Ass Barnacle.
a different mikey said,
April 9, 2009 at 15:45
“Ass Barnacle” wins in the category of band name for the day.
Chris said,
April 9, 2009 at 15:47
Um, am I missing something? How Mr. Harvard Law get pwned? Did Frank give him a smackdown?
Smiling Mortician said,
April 9, 2009 at 15:47
Is Joel Pollak Twoofie?
There is a similar aroma. Smells like [sniffs] angrily self-righteous pouty delusion.
Smiling Mortician said,
April 9, 2009 at 15:50
Did Frank give him a smackdown?
Or three.
And I’d like to welcome back the hamsters. Although I’m wondering whether maybe one of them has, like, a sprain or something.
Chris said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:05
Oh, thanks. I see. Youtube is blocked at my place of enslavement. Carry on.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:06
Ha! That law student sure showed Barney Frank! No one can escape the sneers of conservatives who think their pointed questions devastate any target and are invulnerable to any response!
Fuck on Toast said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:28
In right-wing reality that clip shows Barney Frank getting pwned.
BlackBloc said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:32
I, for one, welcome our new socialist overlord.
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:35
I guess they cropped out his quote about how he’d wanted to do that to Frank ever since he saw some badasses totally PWN Steve Biko.
Michael G. said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:44
Oh, thanks. I see. Youtube is blocked at my place of enslavement. Carry on.
I was thinking like you. Usually just scroll past videos. But then I clicked, and it was worth every kilobyte. Frank is a bit tense, but defends himself very well. He’s fairly intellectually honest about his own culpability, but also addresses how he tried but failed to head off some of the trust fund problems. As far as apologia go, the “I fought really hard to douse that fire and was hideously burned, but I’m sorry your record collection got melted” is pretty good. Maybe the best, in my book.
The gravy is that it’s being replayed with the smackdown edited out. As if we’re in some sort of pre-internet world.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:52
PENIS.
Um, am I missing something? How Mr. Harvard Law get pwned? Did Frank give him a smackdown?
Your General Hospital watching soap opera fans have this to offer:
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:54
“Coon Carnival”?
The kid’s in Harvard and the most clever moniker they could come up with was “Coon Carnival”?
“Coonival” would have been the minimum humor I’d expect, but no, not even that clever.
“Coon Carnival”. Sheesh! That white affirmative action program (e.g. the old boy’s network) sure is pulling from the shallow end of the gene pool lately…
The Goddamn Batman Still Misses Phil Lamarr As "Funky Walker Dirty Talker" said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:54
OK, I can understand that Michael McDonald doesn’t want to be stuck on Mad TV the rest of his career, playing that obnoxious kid, but still, you’d think that he could come up with a better replacement shtick than–wait, what?
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:55
Next up in Pollak world…
Mr. Hussein Obama X, why did you invade Iraq and entrench us in this horrible quagmire? I mean, all these US servicemen dying happened on your watch!
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 16:58
I happen to think of myself as of as a conservative, and I rent and I think of myself as someone who cares about poor people
“Why, just last week, I put blackface on and pretended to be one!”
Rightwingsnarkle said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:08
trying to guess from the sounds the bubbles make
As a young kid I always thought that farts in the tub generated brown-tinted bubbles.
Till said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:11
Coonival has gotten so commercial in recent years. I prefer Coonevale, in Venice.
Dan Someone said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:12
Would that be Mike Barnicle? Disgraced former Boston Globe columnist, reborn as a conservative commentator, like some kind of fecal phoenix rising from the ashes of his own flaming bag of shit?
jim said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:14
An asshole is born … it’s the cycle of life. I’m … I’m getting a little teary-eyed here – no, wait, that’s just my eyes burning from the smell. Carry on, then.
That’s FOX for ya – always keepin’ it classy.
Gary Ruppert said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:15
The fact is, the MSM and the liberals are biased against other points of view like Joels and shout him down and label him in a biased, not bipartisan way. Liberals and Obamafascists should realize that real Americans do not support them and are always for freedom.
Follow my tweets.
Gary Ruppert said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:17
The fact is, what Obama is doing is just like Hitler, which is why we are having our Tea Bag Parties across USA for Free Speech and Freedom of Economic Choice, something liberals want to shut down with socialism. You liberals get to vote and breathe, which is wrong. And do not say I am an extremeist since you were “Bushitler”ing for years about everything, so shut up.
Follow my tweets.
#teabagparty
Gary Ruppert said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:19
The fact is, Obama is not at all popular, despite MSM bias and propaganda. Your hate does not work in the Heartland. We are teabagpartying for freedom.
Follow my tweets.
#teabagparty
Principal Blackman said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:20
OK, I can understand that Michael McDonald doesn’t want to be stuck on Mad TV the rest of his career, playing that obnoxious kid, but still, you’d think that he could come up with a better replacement shtick than–wait, what?
Ha! That’s exactly what I thought, too.
Anyway, this kid’s gonna make all the necessary wingnut rounds (first up, Hannity!) so he can get jerked off by the noise machine about what a brave, great ‘Murrican he is. Prepare for an onslaught of teh stoopid.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:21
Did you see how Obama had to take his teleprompter everywhere with him on that European trip? He even uses it at press conferences and town halls! You libs love to say what a bad speaker Bush was, but he never had to use a teleprompter at press conferences! If the media was half as hard on Obama as they were on Bush in the press conferences, Obama would melt. Or talk about “speaking Austrian” or how he visited “fifty-seven states”, lol.
It’s no wonder the “clean and articulate” one (h/t Joe Biden) won’t release his SAT scores, LSAT scores, and academic record. Because he’s just an empty Affirmative Action suit. All he does is make guilty white liberals feel good about themselves, but at the expense of the country.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:23
It must be really frustrating for an aspiring right wing douchebag law student at Harvard who thinks he owns the universe to get f***ing slapped around by Barney Frank on live TV.
lobbey said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:26
but our tolerant Dutch have Black Peter, which I guarantee you, is even weirder than it looks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Peter
tigrismus said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:28
Since everything one needs to know is learned in kindergarten, I demand his kindergarten GPA be released as well, with details; did he play well with others? Did he talk to much or refuse to raise his hand? Did he dip girls’ pigtails in inkwells? Only the vault copy will be acceptible.
tigrismus said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:28
Or acceptable, even.
Gary Ruppert said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:30
The fact is, nothing says “cred” like bugging liberal blogs to follow my Beck-fed talking points. It helps me pretend like my mother loved me.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:33
I still think bleating about teleprompters frightens Obama supporters. Also, we conservatives seem to have some kind of weird fetish for demanding the release of documents. Oh yeah, take ALL the staples out, baby.
Knights in White Satin said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:34
Barny Frank should have asked Joe P if he is any relation to “Joe The Plumber”
Arky4That1 said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:35
Joel Pollack, proud member of the Order of the Queef.
Gary Ruppert said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:39
The fact is, I just copy and paste these things. I had to take a break to look up the spelling of “Joel”, though.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:40
Gary Ruppert is on Twitter, which only confirms my hypothesis that Twitter is for twits.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:40
Given his only qualification for the Presidency (or at least most of it) was that he went to Harvard, I think his academic scores are kind of important.
Its pretty clear after listen to him unscripted he’s just not that bright, and his SATs probably reflected that. Which is why they refuse to release them.
jim said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:43
Not-Joe-The-Nonplumber went over so well, they couldn’t wait to unleash the fucking fury that is Joel The Whiner?
Knights in White Satin said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:43
To Paul: Paul, will you please give me your name, address, social security number and the number of your checking account? I’m a numerologist, you see, and by examining these numbers I will be able to predict whether or not you will be the next Ben Shapiro or Doughy Loadpants. The uncertainty must be killing you. Advice: get a face mullet.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:45
I knew a man JoelPollak and he’d dance for you
In worn out shoes
With shoeblacked hair, a painted face, and crappy pants
The old soft shoe
He jumped so high, jumped so high
Then he lightly touched down
I met him at Coonival in Sofrica I was
down and out
He looked to me to be the eyes of rage
as he spoke right out
He talked of negroes, talked of debt, he laughed
clicked his heels and stepped
He said his name “JoelPollak” and he chanced to lick
across my jeans
He grabbed his pants and spread his stance…wide,
Oh he jumped so high and then he clicked his heels
He let go a laugh, let go a laugh
and shook back his clothes all around
Mr. JoelPollak, Mr. JoelPollak
Mr. JoelPollak, dance
He danced for those at minstrel shows and county fairs
throughout the south
He spoke through tears of 15 years how his keffer and him
traveled about
The dog up and died, he up and died
And after 20 years he still grieves
He said I lick now at every chance in honky tonks
for drinks and tips
But most the time I spend behind these Fox news cameras
’cause I drinks a bit
He shook his head, and as he shook his head
I heard someone ask him please
Mr. JoelPollak, Mr. JoelPollak
Mr. JoelPollak, dance..
Marco said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:46
First there was Joe the Plumber, now we Joel the______?
It’s just too bad Joel’s unrehearsed spontaneity didn’t happen before CPAC or he would have won the Super Medal of Freest Freedom or something.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:46
KiWS,
We also need to know what his kitchen countertops are made of.
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:47
I think it’s far more likely that Paul will be the next “Guy with a sign in his yard reading ‘Obama- half-breed muslin [sic]‘”.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:48
Yeah. Obama unscripted is a complete dumbass. Unlike the magically insightful conservative beacons of speechfulness like George Will, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Sean Hannity, John Boehner, Dick Armey, or anyone else in the Marching Moron battalion.
I love you idiots. Keep it up. Keep talking in your own private language about ‘teleprompter’ and ‘unscripted’ and ‘Harvard’ and ‘vault copy’ and ‘Fannie and Freddie’ and ‘Barney Frank’ and ‘Chris Dodd’ until there are only like 3 of you retards left in Congress. Please.
Marco said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:48
Oh, is that Paul for realzies?
Mr. Wonderful said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:52
Frank’s asides are priceless–as when he has to explain to the “disingenuous” jerk that “on your watch” is never used neutrally or in the context of a compliment.
He’s had a lot of practice fielding questions like this, after all. The more Pollak claims this is a victory, the more his blatant dishonesty becomes cemented in the public record.
The Internet not only sees all. It remembers all.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:55
Just be honest with yourselves and admit BO is a fuck up and just not very smart.
Soon his celebrity status is going to fade, then BO and his policies will be seen in the harsh light of reality.
Deep down you know BO isn’t the messiah you thought BO was when the MSM hyped him.
Wyatt Watts III said,
April 9, 2009 at 17:58
Joel the Fluffer?
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:04
Not bad, but with a little work you could be a wingnut on the internet. Not a paid wingnut, I mean real salaried one, but you might get the standard trolling fees.
I mean, you know you’re the people who thought idiots like Bush Jr. and Cheney and co were ‘smart’, so, you know you’re kind of in a hole with the public on judging who is and isn’t ‘smart’. You people don’t like smart people anyway — why is this a complete? You’re always insulting professors and scientists and academics and ivory tower and educated liberals. Make up your minds — either it’s good to be smart, or it’s bad, and everyone ought think with their gut and reject evolution and global warming and blame Jimmy Carter and Barney Frank for the collapse of Wall Street.
Anonymous said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:07
Its pretty clear after listen to him unscripted he’s just not that bright, and his SATs probably reflected that. Which is why they refuse to release them.
As someone who has worked in this field for several years now, I can tell you that SATs and “bright” have nothing to do with one another. I know plenty of folks with high SAT scores who are dumber than a bag of hammers, and vice versa.
You might as well be huffy because he hasn’t released his shoe size, Paul. (We all know that bright people have big feet…)
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:10
Acronyms make me horny.
Gary Ruppert said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:14
The fact is, “education” these days, unless it is at Regent U., is brainwashing toward the left wing ideaology.
sekmet said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:15
Joel is quite the nutjob. Just google his name and there are some primo tidbits like his hysterics over an Arab language textbook. And by the way, troll, get off the racist crap, it only makes you look foolish.
Gary Ruppert said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:15
The fact is, the left is worse than Hitler for supporting ACORN and Hitler to bring in socialism.
Gary Ruppert said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:16
The fact is, its not racist to say black people are not very smart and make up most of the criminal world, its a fact. Look up the stats, but liberals won’t do that, just sing kumbahay and act like blacks are jeeniuysus.
owlbear1 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:18
Bullshit delivered in mangled cliches = Clever son of a former President showing his self-made salt of the Earth rugged independence
Studied and coherent speeches delivered with skill = Scary Black man who shouldn’t have even gotten an education.
Studying and learning is hard work!! It’s much easier and more patriotic to make shit up and speak with a fake, folksy Texas drawl than it is to be prepared, knowledgeable, and articulate.
That your goal Paul?
All of you know it’s a line of Bullshit too. That is why all of you keep repeating it over and over again. To piss of a “LIB” with some BULLSHIT you just made up.
“Har! Har!, It’s so easy to Piss off a Lib! Make up some BS and listen to them holler!”
So Pauly, the anger isn’t about the “Teleprompter”. The anger is the fact that you tools keep repeating the same moronic line that we know you know is bullshit.
Was that slow enough for you?
Mouthful of Kelp said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:19
[Total Number of Obama Voters Who Truly, Non-Sarcastically Believed That Obama Was a "Messiah"]
EQUALS
[Total Number of Non-Fictitious Girlfriends Paul Has Had in His Life]
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:21
Here’s why wingnuts stopped calling Obama a socialist and started calling him a fascist:
47% of Americans prefer socialism to capitalism
tigrismus said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:21
In the interest of reality, Bush not only used a teleprompter, stuff had to be spelled phonetically for him to be able to get it right.
Specialist G said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:21
Mmmmmmmm. Sweet, sweet wingnut tears! I could drink them all day! Don’t worry, Paul. Someday the fact that a Black man with a Muslim-sounding name whipped your boy’s ass like a rented mule will stop hurting. But it won’t be anytime soon. Enjoy watching your once-dominant Party devolve into a Southern rump party that caters exclusively to bigots, birthers and closet queens!
Dr. BDH said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:21
First Virgin Ben and now Afrikaaner Joel — Harvard Law admissions has some explaining to do. Maybe they need a new dartboard, or try a different staircase.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:23
“I mean, you know you’re the people who thought idiots like Bush Jr. and Cheney and co were ’smart’, so, you know you’re kind of in a hole with the public on judging who is and isn’t ’smart’”
I never claimed Bush was some kind of genius like you libs do with BO. I hear all this nonsense about “isn’t it nice to have a President who is SO SMART *swoon*” from libs non-stop, even though he fucks up whenever a teleprompter isn’t around:
*”Typical white person”
*”Cling to guns and religion”
*”Fifty-seven states”
*”"Speak Austrian”
*”America invented the automobile”
*The Ford Model T got better gas mileage than a modern SUV”
And on and on and on. The guy isn’t a genius, and if he were white you would have never considered him such. Like I said, BO is for guilty white liberals who want to feel good about themselves. Morons.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:23
Deep down you know BO isn’t the messiah you thought BO was when the MSM hyped him.
Who ever said he was? He was exciting, yes, but no one assumed he was the Messiah.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:25
I hear all this nonsense about “isn’t it nice to have a President who is SO SMART *swoon*” from libs non-stop, even though he fucks up whenever a teleprompter isn’t around
In fairness, next to Bush, even the kids on the short bus seem geniuses.
Why, even YOU seem smart next to Bush, and you’re a FUCKING IDIOT!
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:25
You know what else President Teleprompter does? When answering questions from the press, he’s all “professorial” and drones on and on. And in case that weren’t enough, he allows follow-up questions, so he can continue talking at length. Seriously, what more evidence of his inability to speak without scipted remarks do you lib-tards want?
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:26
Dragon–
All the questions he gets at those pressers are total softballs. The MSM drools over BO.
If they were half as hard on BO as they were on President Bush, BO would melt under the pressure and be “uh, uh, uh, fifty-seven states!” lol.
sekmet said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:27
Dear, you need to learn how to spell before you criticize other people’s lack of intelligence.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:27
By the way, Paul, Obama graduated Harvard Law magna cum laude, which means…HE’S SMART!
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:29
“By the way, Paul, Obama graduated Harvard Law magna cum laude, which means…HE’S SMART!”
According to whom? Has the press ever seen that degree? Give a source or shut the fuck up.
Nobody thought Obama was the messiah? Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
This is who stupid the BO supporters are. They think BO is going to pay for their gas and mortgage!
Mouthful of Kelp said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:30
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actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:31
When answering questions from the press, he’s all “professorial” and drones on and on.
And he uses “facts” to “support” his “argument” and not sixteen words from a non-existent report that were already in question to support committing a trillion dollars and hundreds of thousands of Americans to a war no one wanted.
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:31
“This is who [sic] stupid the BO supporters are.”
Get yourself a towel; a gunshot wound to the foot is gonna bleed a lot.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:33
I wish I was better when I was “off-scipt”.
Interestingly The Ford Model T got better gas mileage than a modern SUV.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/mar/19/barack-obama/model-t-better-mileage-SUVs/
Mostly True. Note that the “criticism” of Obama’s “mangling” of mileage numbers…
IOW, in a century of technological advances, cars have improved in every way except mileage. This is justified because cars have improved in every way except mileage.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:33
According to whom? Has the press ever seen that degree? Give a source or shut the fuck up.
Oh dear…
Here you go!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/may/09/barackobama.uselections20081
http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/973560/Barack-Obama
I presume you can refute those using similarly carefully reported and vetted sources?
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:33
The porkulus spends more in one year than the war spent in seven. And the war actually accomplished something.
Oh noes! I made a typo! Clearly my argument is obliterated! Stick it up your ass, Marlowe. Get it up there good and hard, tool.
Why don’t you watch the video?
J— said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:35
Vault copy or it didn’t happen.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:36
And the war actually accomplished something
Oh?
What?
And source it, buddy. You better make this one stick.
henry lewis said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:36
Question for Fox News:
Does Joel’s dishonesty and general douchebaggery trump his ineffective delivery and listless line of attack?
Some hero. At least Sam the unlicensed plumber’s helper knows how to snarl.
owlbear1 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:36
“Help pay”, was what she said Paul.
As in, “a President Obama will help her to pay her bills as opposed to a President McCain who will look for ways to throw her out on the street.”
See the difference?
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:37
Oh noes! I made a typo! Clearly my argument is obliterated!
Coming from a boy who claims that Obama isn’t smart because he misspoke on one or two occasions…
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:38
Again, has anyone actually seen the diploma? People lie about their degrees all the time. I work in human resources and you’d be surprised how often people make shit up expecting no one will check it out before they’re hired.
Even if it is true, so what? The man is nearly 50 years old, and all he has done besides win elections is what he did back in college? He’s still bragging about that? Pathetic.
Carter was a successful Governor. Reagan was a governor of the largest state in the Union. Clinton had been Governor for twelve years and Attorney General of Arkansas. George W. Bush was a two-term Governor of the second biggest state in the country.
What did BO do before the Presidency? He was a “community organizer” (whatever the fuck that means) and Senator for one year before he started running for President. ZERO executive experience.
N.C. said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:39
My word. A man who’s had to speak almost constantly every day for the past 18 months or so has made six mistakes or poorly-considered statements? IMPEACH HIM IMMEDIATELY OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:40
What kind of an egotistical tool writes two autobiographies before the age of 50? At least Kennedy got a ghost writer to do “Profiles in Courage”.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:40
All the questions he gets at those pressers are total softballs.
You know what? Let’s concede your point. Let’s assume that your magical world where the only questions Barack Obama get’s are You work hard, right? … I don’t think you can ever take a day off, right? or the like.
UR still wrnog! Unless you’re claiming that the softball kweschuns are planted or something – that way Barry can still be on sc
ript!Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:40
What did the war accomplish, exactly? Does it have something to do with the tingly feeling explosions and sweaty men with great big guns give you? That would explain your preoccupation with asses and what enters them. And of course, typos and misspeaking are perfectly acceptable, unless you’re a Negro. Which is central to your point. Teleprompter ACORN.
Righteous Bubba said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:40
I was on the phone recently with a government official whose argument, when other countries insist that Bumfuck State University is not on par with the greatest institutions the US has to offer, is “George W. Bush”.
It’s a silly argument but it’s useful to know that Bush is an actual dumbass yardstick.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:41
“My word. A man who’s had to speak almost constantly every day for the past 18 months or so has made six mistakes or poorly-considered statements? IMPEACH HIM IMMEDIATELY OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS”
Hey, I’m not the one who would bitch every time Bush misspoke and talk about what an idiot he was. You were. Just holding BO to the same standard you held President Bush to.
owlbear1 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:41
and now the “Where’s the Document?” trope.
Pauly, ‘ditto’ what I said about repetition…
N.C. said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:42
Yeah, I’m sure a Presidential candidate could get away with lying about where he graduated from college. I’m sure Harvard would’ve been totally cool with that.
Paul 2: The Blartening said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:43
Hey libs, check this out!! I’m a rapid-fire blast-fax copy-paster here to FUCK YOU UP! When I’m done with you, you’ll be ON THE FLOOR begging for MERCY!!!
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:43
Harvard’s in on Teh Konspiracy. Just like all the Hawaiian hospital staff and state officials who confirm Hussein X was born there.
g said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:44
even though he fucks up whenever a teleprompter isn’t around?
He does? How so?
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:44
“Yeah, I’m sure a Presidential candidate could get away with lying about where he graduated from college.”
I’m talking about lying about his grades. And why no SAT or LSAT scores?\
“What did the war accomplish, exactly?”
It freed twenty-five million people form tyranny.
What will the Porkulus give us? Bridges to nowhere, choo-choo trains nobody except idiot Joe Biden will ride, and grass seed on the National Mall?
Arky4That1 said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:44
Why are ya’ll feeding a troll that is so seriously wounded?
Cruel I calls it.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:46
We also dealt Al Qaeda a serious battlefield defeat in the heart of the Arab world, President Bush and General Patreaus kicked their asses.
If BO had his way we would have left in 2006, never implemented the surge, and Iraq would be ruled by AQI today.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:46
verbatim Paul
Even if it is true, so what? The man is nearly 50 years old, and all he has done besides win elections is what he did back in college? He’s still bragging about that? Pathetic.
c.f.
What kind of an egotistical tool writes two autobiographies before the age of 50?
If you ignore anything which disagrees with the theory, the theory starts looking pretty good!
And in conclusion, PENIS.
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:46
B. Hussein Soetero X. is rigging the next census. ACORN will totally take all the electoral collegte votes away from your remaining three states. Then – and only then – will you find out the TRUE purpose of the Sorosian candidate!
BWAHAHABWAHAHA
Suck it whingers!
Also, FYWP. How the fuckety fuck would YOU know what “too fast” means? What, once a day? That’s right, FIRST FUCKING COMMENT since yesterday. Is WordPress a Joel Pollak product?
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:49
I’m talking about lying about his grades.
Yes. They give magna cum laude to all the cee students. Also, that is a snappy rejoinder to I’m sure Harvard would’ve been totally cool with that.
g said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:49
When I want to hire a chief executive, the first thing I look at are his SATs.
How were McCain’s?
the_millionaire_lebowski said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:49
This is what you look like to TSA.
Also, why is S,N! so slow to load lately?
henry lewis said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:50
Bush is an actual dumbass
yardstickGunter’s chain.Fixatived.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:51
The war accomplished getting us broker.
Also, it was a big win for Iran.
So Cheney and puppet have those two things going for them.
noen said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:54
“Get it up there good and hard, tool.”
Clearly you’ve done this before and know exactly how you like it.
The Complete Republican Strategy for the Next Forty-Three Months said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:54
ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright! ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright!
g said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:56
The right is clearly sending the B-grade trolls over here. The economy is hitting hard everywhere.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:57
Why do the rightards think anyone but rightards care about their constant demands to see the ‘vault copy’ of Obama’s birth certificate or his Social Security card or his diploma?
Oh, right, because there’s a conspiracy to pretend that Obama got a degree from Harvard and this knowledge will only be disproven when Harvard opens the secret underground container in which they keep all the blood-signed original vault copies of diplomas which are only valid when all 12 of the secret Harvard spirits kiss the blood-signed document under a New Moon.
Dragon-King Wangchuck said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:58
Incidentally, Barney Frank has already answered Joel Pollak’s question in great detail.
I(slighly)OW:
So in summary, PENIS.
That Girl said,
April 9, 2009 at 18:58
Hey, I’m not the one who would bitch every time Bush misspoke and talk about what an idiot he was. You were. Just holding BO to the same standard you held President Bush to.
But, holding him to a completely different standard than YOU held Bush to.
Nice. Not that we would have expected anything better from someone who hasn’t said anything that isn’t 100% unmitigated BS.
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:00
Paul, you need to establish some credibility. Credentials would help. Post your SAT scores and HS grade reports immediately. No, wait….Post a link to kerning-verified images of the vault copies. Also, do you have any special sex techniques we need to know about?
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:02
Fear Chairman Barry
Run and hide under the bed, wingnutz. SOCIALISM!!!11!
tigrismus said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:03
So Bush is not an egotist because all the books about him he either wrote or cooperated on were published after his fiftieth birthday?
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:04
I am disappointed that only 20% of Americans are openly in favor of socialism. However, we will keep working on it.
Righteous Bubba said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:04
Well you know, Yale up until recently would confirm a fax if it looked nice and not check their archives.
Vault copy of the Bush degree please…
noen said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:04
RB:
“It’s a silly argument but it’s useful to know that Bush is an actual dumbass yardstick.”
Bush is a fundamental constant of the universe. I propose the Bush Length as a measure of absolute stupidity
Bush Length = sqr root (GW/c3) = about 0.000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 016 2 meters
where:
GW = Gee Dubya
c = compassionate conservative
noen said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:05
FYWP is another constant.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:07
Rev. Wright reminds me of some more proof he isn’t that bright.
Either he heard Rev. Wright’s anti-American, anti-white screeds for twenty years and agreed with them through his silence and only threw Rev. Wright under the bus when it was politically expedient to do so, or he was so stupid he didn’t realize how anti-American Rev. Wright was.
Which is it, libs?
“Also, it was a big win for Iran.”
Bullshit. Shia Iraqis and Shia Persians are completely different and hate eachother for nationalist reasons. A strong, Democratic Iraq allied with the west with American troops garrisoned inside it is Iran’s worse nightmare.
“How were McCain’s?”
McCain admitted to being a bad student. But unlike BO, he had other qualifications for the Presidency besides “I went to Harvard once, and was a ‘community organizer’”.
Can anyone here explain what a “community organizer” is, exactly?
Major Kong said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:10
Can anyone here explain what a “community organizer” is, exactly?
Jesus was a community organizer.
Pilate was a governor.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:12
“Jesus was a community organizer.”
Lol, and you just denied that people see BO as a messiah.
So again, what does a community organizer do? Why couldn’t BO hack it in the real world of the private sector?
Paublart said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:12
Agree with my idiotic notions about libs, libs! Do it noooooooooow!
Steerpike said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:13
Sheesh, people, it’s like you’re all starving, waiting around for the pathetic trolls to feed YOU. Give ‘em the attention they deserve,and they’ll go away.
Could we maybe get the slow servers back? At least it kept the trolls with the attention span of a fruit-fly on Red Bull from hanging around.
noen said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:13
“McCain admitted to being a bad student. But unlike BO, he had other qualifications for the Presidency”
McCain’s qualifications are called “Daddy was a four star admiral”.
Wyatt Watts III said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:15
Helen Keller published her autobiography when she was 22. What a bitch.
Clint said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:15
Can anyone here explain what a “community organizer” is, exactly?
See “Christ, Jesus”
See also “King, Martin Luther”, “Gandhi, Mohandas”, “Mother Teresa”, “Mother Jones”, “Douglass, Frederick”, “Addams, Jane”, “Chavez, Cesar”, “Nadar, Ralph”, and “Wellstone, Paul”.
Rightwingsnarkle said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:15
First there was Joe the Plumber, now we Joel the______?
Douchebag. I nominate the word douchebag.
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:16
“Can anyone here explain what a ‘community organizer’ is, exactly?”
These are election season smears, you poor, confused little troll. Nowadays you’re supposed to be talking about how he’s Super Black Hitler. Hell, even “porkulus” is 5 minutes ago. You have such promise, and yet so much to learn in the field of being retarded.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:16
What does a “community organizer” DO? Answer the question.
Major Kong said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:17
You mean like those champions of the private sector John (I worked for my father-in-law) McCain and George (I ran 2 oil companies into the ground) Bush?
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:18
Notice how BO apologized for America in Europe? Called us “arrogant”. Reagan would have never apologized for America. BO is weak and soft.
If he loves Europe so much, he should stay there.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:21
He also bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, but didn’t respect the Queen of England. I guess showing deference to the Queen would have made his deadbeat Third World Comsymp father too mad.
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:22
“Notice how BO apologized for America in Europe? Called us “arrogant”. Reagan would have never apologized for America. BO is weak and soft.”
Uh… then he said “But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what’s bad.” But you, of course, already knew that and just lie pathologically.
SomeNYGuy said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:22
Paul is some kind of genius. He has figured out a way to connect his crayons to the internet.
Pall said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:23
Fart! Fart! Fluffy Foooo!
Oooh, I love the smell of my own Pooo!
Snifff! Ahhhhh!
noen said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:24
Paul said
I like Pie!!
Soooo, TroofiePaul said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:24
How’s that shit taco taste?
J— said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:25
Don’t forget his friendly words for Lula. What an embarrassment.
That Girl said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:26
I was thinking how cool it would be to get trolls who are in touch with reality.
But, then I realized, if they weren’t fabricating everything they say out of thin air… They wouldn’t be trolls.
Clint said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:26
So, did Troofie find another motel to steal WiFi bandwidth from?
Galactic Dustbin said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:28
oh no! Joe The Plumber better watch out! A younger, exotic, in your face version of himself is born! The right wing machine has moved on to their next hero.
Next thing you know Joe’s paid apperences at gun shows will start to dry up in favor of the new hotness. Poor Joe, now no one will buy his country album.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:28
Poor wingnuts.
They’re mad that President Obama didn’t give the Saudis bjs, like Bush always did.
kg said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:29
Just a gentle reminder but I think Paul’s still waiting for your reply. He wants you to answer the question.
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:30
Paul, you rancid coon fart. When many people of intelligence all agree that someone is smart, perceptive and thoughtful, every time you keep throw poo at him saying he’s not any or all of those things, you ratchet up your idiocy knob. You’re already at eleven. For once in your life, admit that you don’t like smart people. You don’t have to say it here, just say it to yourself. “I really hate smart people.” It’s therapeutic. You’ll feel better. Your anger will subside a bit; you won’t feel suchj an urge to publically smear poo on your face.
There there, it’s going to be all better.
The Complete Republican Strategy for the Next Forty-Three Months said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:31
ACORN! George Soros! Bill Ayers! Teleprompter! Messiah! Socialist! Porkulus! Reverend Wright!
ANSWER ME!
Wyatt Watts III said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:32
Paul, Paul Paul. Folks around these parts don’t think of Barack Obama as our messiah. We live in caves and worship an atomic bomb, just like the telepathic mutants in Beneath the Planet of the Apes.
And don’t try and stop us, Paul– or, should I say, Dr. Zaius. We’re on to you.
RedStater75 said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:33
No, no, it’s okay, see, because that’s actually Barney Frank getting owned by the student, and we will promote that subjective, false reality so heavily that it becomes recieved wisdom, and therefore genuine reality. We win. We always win.
J— said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:33
Or maybe Joe the Plumber and Joel the Stuart Larkin of Harvard Law School can save the country together, tag-team style. Joel really likes Joe:
From that 11/2/08 piece I linked above.
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:33
Marlowe, (I really like your plays, by the way. Done anything lately?) the rpoblem is, the Paul’s don’t know what insidious means.
FYWP.
Clint said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:36
Just a gentle reminder but I think Paul’s still waiting for your reply. He wants you to answer the question.
Hell, it ain’t our fault if he can’t read. Or click a link. Or form an original thought. Or utilize the higher functions of his nervous system.
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:36
He probably thinks it means “community organizer”.
Major Kong said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:36
Reagan would have never apologized for America.
Reagan. Hmmmm. Sounds familiar.
Ain’t he that feller what sold them missiles to the Iranians?
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:41
And BTW, Peej, I just completed a little personal, independently-funded project about the Prince of Denmark who… SONOFABITCH!
Principal Blackman said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:41
Paul, you don’t happen to post on blogsforvictory, do you?
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:43
Again, has anyone actually seen the diploma? People lie about their degrees all the time. I work in human resources and you’d be surprised how often people make shit up expecting no one will check it out before they’re hired.
Right, but how many people running for President who published two autobiographies that were carefully vetted, so much so that folks have had to make shit up to try to smear him, could get away with it?
You must have been a pretty incompetent HR person if you can understand that a simple credit header would have established if he lied about graduating magna cum laude.
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:43
I guess you gotta get the Trool Chow out there quick these days, before the disemvoweler strikes.
Which is why killfile rules.
noen said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:44
“Ain’t he that feller what sold them missiles to the Iranians?”
While they were holding US citizens hostage and in exchange for a promise to hold them until after the election and let them go, behind the back of a sitting US president, just so he could win. Republicans are traitors.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:44
Paul, you rancid raccoon fart.
PeeJ, the thread! The thread! Re-read the item from Sofrica!
Fixed your post.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:45
What does a “community organizer” DO? Answer the question.
What does a “thousandth point of light” do?
Same thing, it turns out!
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:46
“Paul, you don’t happen to post on blogsforvictory, do you?”
Maybe I do. Whats it to you?
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:46
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:41
And BTW, Peej, I just completed a little personal, independently-funded project about the Prince of Denmark who… SONOFABITCH!
Oh hey look! Marlowe stabbed himself in the eye during a bar fight!
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:47
Oh no, Paul’s an Internet Tough Guy. Youse Jets better get off his turf.
Paublart said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:48
Hey libs, I know I’ve been filling up this thread with a lot of comments, so I thought I would highlight the sad talking points that I’ve copied from other sources, but which I have – frighteningly enough – completely internalized.
teleprompter
SAT scores, LSAT scores, and academic record
Affirmative Action
unqualified
celebrity
messiah!
guilty white liberals
MSM drools over BO
porkulus
no executive experience
egotistical
Rev. Wright
anti-American
anti-white
community organizer
weak and soft
bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia
didn’t respect the Queen of England
his deadbeat Third World Comsymp father*
* I think this one might be an original! I get extra Saltines for coming up with new ones!
Also, I threw in a random comment showing my anal fixation, in case you missed that.
In conclusion … blart!
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:49
Ain’t he that feller what sold them missiles to the Iranians?
Goopers: NEVER take responsibility for their eff-ups.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:50
Give the troll credit, folks. He’s moved up the ladder from questioning the birth certificate to questioning his graduations.
By 2016, he’ll be demanding a recount of 2008!
At Least 2 Republican Presidents said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:50
WHEN THE PRESIDENT DOES IT, THAT MEANS IT’S NOT ILLEGAL!
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:54
He also bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia
At least he didn’t walk hand-in-hand with the mass-murdering bastard, unlike some Presidents who apparently prefer to date the people fucking us up the ass.
MS said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:56
noen said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:13
“McCain admitted to being a bad student. But unlike BO, he had other qualifications for the Presidency”
McCain’s qualifications are called “Daddy was a four star admiral”.
—
In fairness, he also dumped his crippled first wife to marry an heiress and use his father-in-law’s money to finance his political career while enjoying a lifestyle a Chinese emperor or Indian maharajah would have envied. Plus there’s the “But I really, really, really want to be President so much I’ll toady up to people I despise and who despise me in return” qualification.
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:56
WHEN THE PRESIDENT DOES IT, THAT MEANS IT’S NOT ILLEGAL!
You forgot the small print: WHEN THE (republican) PRESIDENT…
This is also known as “The Divine Right of
KingsRepublican Presidents”.Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:58
It’s pretty hilarious how wingnuts have decided that you’re not a real American if you don’t show sufficient subservience to an English monarch. Well-played, Paul… or should I say, COLONEL THOMAS FLETCHALL?!
kiki said,
April 9, 2009 at 19:59
Hey, RedStater’s back. That’s the same genius who Red-stated on these forums, without irony, that he believes – in agreement with Barney Frank’s sarcastic statement on pro-lifers – that “life ends at birth”.
IOW, he’s not terribly bright.
Bernardo said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:01
Notice how BO apologized for America in Europe? Called us “arrogant”. Reagan would have never apologized for America. BO is weak and soft.
If he loves Europe so much, he should stay there.
Would you mind translating that into Spanish?
Jay B. said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:10
Most of the loser talk I can stand. If someone wants to think Obama is stupid, he’s welcome to it. Who is America going to believe, him or their own lying eyes? My money’s on the bitter douchebag with a grudge!
But it’ll chafe my ass until the end of time that they mock community organizing as somehow silly or illegitimate. It’s not only completely ignorant, it’s ignorant of basic American history.
“Mediating institutions engage their members in the sharing of their stories, help them understand the meaning of their stories in the context of the larger world and of their own value tradition, and organize their members for action in the spirt of the Hebrew word, tikkun, to repair or heal the world.
What commie fuck said that about the peculiar American genius of organizing around, and for, communities? Alexander DeToqueville in Democracy in America. Some would say it’s a profoundly conservative value, to build up communities around common interests.
But what do they do beside link people into the democratic system? Getting them to register to vote? Fuck that. How about getting people to help look after one another (Community watches)? Losers. OK, what about ensuring that the city or state looks after the things the city and state should be looking after? What, poor people deserve police protection and park maintenance too? No way. Helping people get access to private concerns that might help them read or get a job or get off drugs? Razing buildings to limit the drug trade? Making their homes more beautiful and prideworthy to spur an entire community to do the same thing? Fighting city hall? Supporting city hall? Getting a needed bridge built? Getting a toxic waste dump out of a neighborhood? Shit, getting a bunch of people together for some kind of “tea party”.
It’s a million fucking things that pampered douchebags who work in HR wouldn’t know, understand or care about because it can help people on a real and profound level, to give them a voice. To give them leverage. To help them out. Get back to shuffling your papers and bitching about your coworkers you worthless, meaningless fucking asshole.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:15
““Mediating institutions engage their members in the sharing of their stories, help them understand the meaning of their stories in the context of the larger world and of their own value tradition, and organize their members for action in the spirt of the Hebrew word, tikkun, to repair or heal the world.”
Meaningless academic drivel.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:16
A “community organizer” is a black man who works in inner city local political development, often assisting lower income persons, while he learns as much as he needs to to completely kick the asses of the Republican Party from one side of the nation to another, and then he becomes President by the overwhelming support of the U.S. electorate and population.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:17
Meaningless academic drivel.
Careful what you say about de Touqueville. He’s Rush’s inspiration.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:17
Or, as you may know him, President Black Hussein Yassir Arafat Bobby Seale “Community Organizer” Obama X.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:18
You know what a “community organizer” really is?
A professional shakedown artist. Little better than an organized mob. I.e., screaming outside the homes of the executives of AIG (scarring their children in the process), intimidating banks into making loans to people who can never pay them back, getting “Mickey Mouse” to vote. It’s fraud, coercion, and inner city intimidation. Chicago thuggery at its “finest”. It’s a Marxist way to destroy capitalism.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:18
A Community Organizer is someone who organizes parasitic losers to get more pork from the public treasury.
Jennifer said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:18
Hey, uh, Paul?
I work for ACORN.
OOOGA-BOOOGA, we’re coming to GET YOU!!!!!
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:20
Community organizations:
Neighborhood watch
Community garden
The Rotary
Boy Scouts
Girl Scouts
Churches
Park clean-up
PTA
School board
Civic societies
Volunteer fire fighters
Auxiliary policemen
Ladies’ Auxiliary
Actually, the list is rather extensive…
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:20
Oh yeah, and getting homeless people to vote Democrat by giving them cigarettes and bum wine. How wonderful.
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:21
Oh-ho, you sure got those incredibly powerful Jewish professors. You’re a regular Guy Fawkes, you are.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:21
You know what a “community organizer” really is?
A professional shakedown artist. Little better than an organized mob.
You’re calling volunteer firemen “parasites”?
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:21
Meaningless academic drivel.
As an ex-academic, I feel obligated to point out the redundancy in your statement.
Also, redundantly, FYWP.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:22
I think we bugged Paul. He’s getting belligerent.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:22
“You’re calling volunteer firemen “parasites”?”
I’m calling an organization that gets more people on welfare parasites (ACORN and Obama’s “Public Allies”).
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:23
Scandalous, isn’t it? People voting without having to prove they own land. There ought to be a law.
You’re just repeating shit you’ve heard on Rush and feigning the vapors over it. You’re a first-class sucker among a party of first-class suckers. I could probably get you to suck me off by claiming to be a leprechaun.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:24
From Texas A&M, you know, one of them fruity liberal universities:
Community-Based Organization Descriptions
Community Service and Action
Community service and action CBOs focus on improving the general physical characteristics of a community. Although particular programs may be quite specific, these organizations tend to view their programs not merely as ends in themselves, but rather to see such progrms within a broader community perspective. The CBOs categorized here differ from other problem-oriented CBOs in being more multipurpose. Descriptive Examples: Civic Service Groups, Community Development Groups, Neighborhood-Improvement Groups, Community Protection Groups, etc.
Health
Health CBOs focus on preserving and enhancing the physical and/or mental health of a community including treatment of health problems, aftercare, and rehabilitation. Descriptive Examples: Health Education, Hospitals/Health Treatment Facilities, Crisis and Suicide Hotlines, Nursing Homes, Public Health Support Services, Rehabilitative Medical Services, Emergency Assistance, Hospices, Residential/Custodial Care, Community Health Care, Drug and Alcohol Abuse Treatment and Prevention Groups, etc.
Educational
Educational CBOs have as their primary goal the education or increasing learning and knowledge of community residents. These groups are either directly involved or contibute to the educational process. Descriptive Examples: School-Based Educational Programs, School-Related Tutoring Programs, School-Based At-Risk Youth Programs, Community-Serving School-Based Groups, General Adult Education, Workplace-Related Programs, Adult Continuing Education, Literacy Educational Services, Preschool and Nursery Programs, etc.
Personal-Growth, Self-Development, Self-Improvement
Personal-Growth CBOs aim primarily to build character, personality, and skills in individuals primarily through self-help and experiential learning as opposed to formal education. Descriptive Examples: Youth Development Programs, Adult Development Programs, Future Farmers, Adult/Child Matching Programs, Boys/Girls Clubs, CYO, Scouting Organizations, YMCA/YWCA, etc.
Social Welfare
Social Welfare CBOs are oriented primarily toward providing for the general welfare of some category of community resident facing serious social problems due to their social situation. Their focus and the prime legitimatization of their activity is not the community as a whole, but rather, service to particular categories of persons seen as having special needs, problems, or requirements. Descriptive Examples: Marriage and Family Problems Groups, Friendship/Relations Groups, Crime and Delinquency, Employment Assistance (e.g. Job Development/Training), Vocational Rehabilitation, Volunteer Recruitment, Screening Referral and Advocacy Groups, Consulting and Technical Assistance Groups, Homeless Shelters/Temporary Housing, Housing Support Services, Women’s and Children’s Shelters, Children/Youth Support Services, etc.
Self-Help Disadvantaged and Minority
Self-help disadvantaged and minority CBOs have as their focus the betterment of the poor, women, or other such traditionally disadvantaged groups. These CBOs are generally oriented toward improving the quality of common welfare and quality of life of their target populations through changing society’s perceptions and treatment of disadvantaged people. Descriptive Examples: Senior Citizens Programs, Programs for Persons with Physical and Cognitive Disabilities, MHMR Programs, etc.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:24
That’s President Community Organizer to you.
Olexicon said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:25
“A Community Organizer is someone who organizes parasitic losers to get more pork from the public treasury’
That’s a Milirtary Lobbyist
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:25
Check this out:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/05/the-obamas-and-their-public-allies/
All about Michelle Obama parasitic lobbying.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:25
I’m calling an organization that gets more people on welfare parasites
So you’d send a trillion dollars to a land you’ll never visit to help people who hate us for the help, but you wouldn’t give a dollar to help your neighbor keep his house?
Some American YOU turned out to be!
Jennifer said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:25
BTW, Paul, since I’m sure you’ve never bothered to even visit ACORN’s website to see what the organization really does, here’s a sample:
I mean, I can understand why you fear that a half million people with the least political power in the country will force us all into Marxism. And then there’s the whole, “who the fuck do these people think they are? Don’t they know poor people are supposed to just accept the crumbs from the shit sandwich the middle class gets to eat, and shut the fuck up? Everyone knows that if you don’t have the budget to hire a 7-figure lobbyist who wears $600 loafers, you’re not supposed to participate in politics. That’s what it says in the Constitution” or some such bullshit.
Grow the fuck up and calm down, Mary.
Marlowe said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:25
“I could probably get you to suck me off by claiming to be a leprechaun.”
Oh my God, that’s it! Paul is Eric Cartman!
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:26
“Self-help disadvantaged and minority CBOs have as their focus the betterment of the poor, women, or other such traditionally disadvantaged groups.”
Yeah, let’s steal money from white males to give to them. Just great.
Olexicon said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:26
“’m calling an organization that gets more people on welfare parasites ‘
Dobn’t talk shit about the Bush Administration like that
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:26
Palin was, of course, right. ‘Community organizers’ are heretical perversions of the purpose of the citizen, which is to worship the State’s plenipotential majesty. Have you seen a “citizen” doing something without the explicit involvement of the nearest Republican governor? Call the Party right away and lie down so you don’t hurt yourself with shock.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:26
I didn’t think they came dumber than Troofie, but damn, we haven’t scraped the bottom of the barrel, I think.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:27
Yeah, let’s steal money from white males to give to them. Just great.
You got laid off from the White Castle, didn’t you?
SomeNYGuy said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:27
BO is weak and soft.
Maybe yours, but my BO is strong and redolent.
Olexicon said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:27
Quit Oppressing the people who fucked up the country!
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:28
Did you know the father of community organizing (Saul Alinsky) was a Marxist Communist? Google it.
Olexicon said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:29
There was a German leader in the 1930s liked to call the Jews “parasites”
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:29
Wait, I thought that was Republican Senator Phil Gramm! Or, maybe I was thinking of our biggest agricultural conglomerates. No, no, maybe it’s the real estate development industry needing more roads and sewers and water lines run…
But it’s not fair to call them parasitic losers, considering that the community organizing guy won while the lying old fart from Arizona went back to one of his many inherited money houses and the crazy dumb lady from Alaska went back to making the meth and unplanned teen pregnancy problems worse.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:29
I bet that Paulie here doesn’t realize those social service CBOs help Iraq war veterans who fought to save him a nickel on a gallon of gasoline who come home and commit suicide in droves, or end up homeless or bankrupt or divorced, and Paulie wouldn’t give back that nickel, not one, to help them have a slightly better life.
That’s a real Patriot! Hates the soldiers, too!
Jennifer said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:29
Did you know that Hitler was a heterosexual? Google it.
Olexicon said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:30
Did you David Horowitz used to be a MArxist Communist. google It
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:30
Oh, no, I was wrong. You’re not just sucking off Rush “Thank God I Don’t Have To Waste My Valuable Oxy Time Lying To You Suckers Any More” Limbaugh, you’re getting second-hand ideas from Michelle Malkin, the only woman stupid enough to get fired from Fox and so “conservative” she thinks the state is entitled to round people up and put them in camps for having the wrong last name.
I mean, obivously that’s what you want on your side against the Ablackalypse, right? Someone arguing for the moral authority to establish concentration camps.
Again, I’ve got a shiny gold dollar with your name on it if you see what’s going on down Sligo way.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:30
Did you know the father of community organizing (Saul Alinsky) was a Marxist Communist?</i?
Yea.
Damn shame it took a Commie to shame us into doing the right thing, dontcha think?
Ronald Reagan said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:30
I never would have apologized for America, but I would (and did) apologize for SS guards.
the higher functions of Paul's nervous system. said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:31
sorry, we atrophied into tiny, useless husks years ago.
(akshully mingo)
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:31
There’s an irony here that the troll is arguing against Christ’s teachings on Holy Thursday.
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:31
Of course he does. They’re a bunch of fags who lost his glorious war and like Obama. Half of them even voted for him. Communists, I say.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:32
You know who else are a bunch of losers? White rural Southerners. They lose a civil war, they lose slavery, they lose the textile industry, they lose elections. Man, what don’t they lose, except contests for highest number of welfare recipients, and high numbers of domestic abuse and family murders, child mortality rates, and the like?
Joe McCarthy said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:32
My tactics aren’t instant argument-enders anymore. Google it.
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:32
BEGORRAH
robert green said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:32
well, barney’s not exactly clean in all this IMHO. he made the same choice the rest of the democrats did, to become beholden to financial services interests in the name of getting re-elected and getting really good junkets.
that doesn’t change the essential point that he didn’t run a committee until 2007, the CRA was only responsible for 6% of the total sub-prime market (and the prime market isn’t so great either) etc. etc. it’s not that barney is wrong in what he says–unlike his republican counterparts, he’s actually a brilliant guy–it’s just that he drank the same fucking koolaid as everyone else, and as an actually existing brilliant person in congress (rara avis indeed) he feels like a shithead about it. and has to defend himself by misleading, however eloquently, in public. i would say scum like pollak are barney’s punishment, and frankly i think it is the least barney deserves.
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:33
Really, do go read the article at IBD to which Paul linked. Actually, he linked to Our Lady of the Camps which llinks to the article so it’s clear he doesn’t know how to use the intertoobz. Anyway, from that article:
Jeezus H. Christ on a pogo stick, I didn’t realize how scared they are. Suhweeeet!
Olexicon said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:33
Joe McCarthy is surprised to see Joe McCarthy’s Irrevelance?
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:34
They lose a civil war, they lose slavery, they lose the textile industry, they lose elections. Man, what don’t they lose, except contests for highest number of welfare recipients, and high numbers of domestic abuse and family murders, child mortality rates, and the like?
Crystal meth? Like guns, you have to pry it from their cold dead hands.
kg said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:34
here in chicago, citizens are filling potholes themselves rather than wait for the city to do it.
fucking thugs.
plus this
I could probably get you to suck me off by claiming to be a leprechaun.”
has got to be the funniest thing I’ve read today.
Joe McCarthy said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:35
Shut up, you punk kid. I was lying about my service when you were lying about cleaning your room!
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:35
David Horowitz was also a Black Panther auxiliary until his ego-chasing saw one of his white female friends get killed, and ever since then he’s been so racked by guilt at what a colossal ass and fool he was that he runs around the country trying to scare students out of hearing anything that might have made them as stupid, authoritarian, and ego-driven as David Horowitz was. He’s so desperately trying to protect us all from himself, it’s really sad. Really, really sad. But also kind of funny.
Kenny said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:37
Did you know Gamera was a friend to all children everywhere? Google it.
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:37
Racism is a myth. Also, everyone’s racist against white people.
Really, I think the effort to actually argue with the guy (as well as using your own nyms – again, use something startihg with ‘St. Jesus’ to spare at least some people the hassle) is futile. He thinks pointing out a lisping, open homosexual has sex with men is the height of wit. He doesn’t merit response; he merits only derision and shame.
Jonathan Lipnicki said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:39
Did you know the human head weighs eight pounds? Google it, libs.
Froley said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:40
all he has done besides win elections…
is turn about 20% of the US population batshit insane. Or maybe they were that way already, I’m not sure.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:41
Did you know Saul Alinsky was over 100 feet tall and used to crush Rotarians in his left hand just for fun? Google it, libtards.
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:41
Did you know that Christendom will never truly accept the community-organizing Teuton wogs’ apathy to the authority of the Pope? Google it, Ghibs.
Jennifer said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:42
Or maybe they were that way already, I’m not sure.
Oh, they were. They were.
They’re just under a lot more neurological stress these days, what with the black president with the Muslim middle name and all the funny ideas about how government ought to serve the interests of ALL its citizens.
Jennifer said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:44
Did you know Saul Alinsky was over 100 feet tall and used to crush Rotarians in his left hand…
Huh. I always thought is was Rosucrucians he crushed, with the right hand.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:44
The Bush Jr. 28%-ers are totally not dealing well with having to give up their 40-year rise to national power to an extremely popular black liberal President and a dominantly Democratic, liberal Congress. And that America generally now hates them and realizes their ‘ideas’ are the exact pyramid of sh*t they always were.
Particularly given that the 40-year rise was built entirely upon conservative white Southerners moving from the Democratic to the Republican Party ever since Civil Rights, and now, that’s all tapped, all the white Southern conservatives who were going to become Republican have long migrated, so it’s all just going to get worse for them.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:46
Huh. I always thought is was Rosucrucians he crushed, with the right hand.
Ambidextrous.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:47
As I said above, I work in HR. I am a cheerleader for conservatives, and spend hours repeating the Talking Points that rich white men tell me to repeat. I’m not sure why I care so much about rich white men, because I’ll never be rich.
But I have a secret fantasy life where I’m a mighty rich white man, and those fantasies keep me from thinking about my wretched, empty life.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:48
Alinsky barrada nicto!
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:49
Saul Alinsky was very open about his sexual orientations, describing himself as ambidextro-curious. Actually, at 100 feet tall, there were few opportunities to obscure his interests.
Rudolph Giulliani, America's Mayor said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:49
Did you know 9/11 happened on September 11th? Did you??!? Google it, liberalini!
Also, 9/11.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:51
Obama’s poll numbers are about the same Bush’s were in 2001.
Jesus's Tweet said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:52
Good Friday WTF u guys r sick!
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:53
And how. You ever see Empire? Turns out it’s not actually the Empire State Building.
El Cid said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:56
I know! Amazing, isn’t it? Obama isn’t even white, he’s a black guy with a Muslim name, and he’s already tied with Bush Jr. It must frighten the rightards thinking about how low Bush Jr. & Cheney sunk while they sh*t all over the country and the world, but I guess you just can’t hide the fact that Republicans hate America and always try to destroy it every chance they get.
Jesus's Tweet said,
April 9, 2009 at 20:59
I know it was you Judas. You broke my heart. You broke my heart!
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:03
Back on the subject at hand, I’m intensely amused by yet another epic Great White Hope fail. The Republicans seem to be cranking these losers out about once every few days, and they always follow the same arc:
1) he’s a genius,
2) he’s white Jesus,
3) he’s Sarah Palin’s running mate for sure,
4) shut up he’s on TV now,
5) …
6) he’s just being buried by the liberal media,
7)I don’t know who you’re talking about.
8) But have you heard about this other guy? He’s a genius.
etc. This isn’t exactly new – Giuliani and Thompson were basically long-term examples of this nationally – but I like how they’ve gotten so desperate that the turnover between Maundering Brown Southern Jackass and Jazz Hands Apartheidstein has been weeks, and there are several intervening figures. The cycle will never outpace Ailes’s morning memos, but even that is like the Flash in electoral terms.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:05
Alec,
If that fourteen year old kid who spoke at CPAC had been older, he would have been the flavor for last month.
Jennifer said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:06
This thread on Roy’s most recent post at Village Voice would be a good one for Paul.
Principal Blackman said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:07
“Paul, you don’t happen to post on blogsforvictory, do you?”
Maybe I do. Whats it to you?
Oh, nothing. You just remind me of one of the louder troglodytes over there, so I wondered if you and he are one and the same.
SomeNYGuy said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:08
If that fourteen year old kid who spoke at CPAC had been older, he would have been the flavor for last month.
They have to let him ripen to full nuthood. Meanwhile, he’s sleeping between Grover Norquist and John Fund on their big round waterbed.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:08
Obama’s followers are already trying to pull a Chavez:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=hj111-5
That didn’t take long! What do you think of the effort to repeal Presidential term limits, libs?
cowalker said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:09
A pre-presidency biography full of WIN. We should have been able to predict his performance as president based on it. But we misoverestimated how he would do. http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/86112/George-W-Bush
The links are mine.
So he didn’t serve much of his second term as governor. Sort of like how Sarah Palin wouldn’t have served much of her first term if the voters hadn’t been pwnd by a Republican recently enough to still remember it.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:10
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Repeal term limits? One sponsor? No co-sponsors? It hasn’t even been marked up by committee?
That’s like saying you’re just about to take a dump because you might be looking at a plate of food some time in the next week!
Typical Liberal said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:12
We are planning to be “stealth activists” at the teabag parties on April 15. We will be the ones holding up the signs criticizing Obama; kind of a “deep cover” for our real purposes.
All you conservatives, please don’t tear down the signs we are holding up that attack Obama. PLEASE DON’T!
owlbear1 said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:13
Mr. Pollak really needs a green tint and some neck bolts.
Just sayin’…
Righteous Bubba said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:15
It’d be nice to see someone voted out because they suck and not because it’s time to go. The proxy of John McCain just was not satisfying.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:16
Funny thing about that bill, Paul.
It was introduced while Bush was still President!
Perhaps Serrano thought he’d miss the boy?
cyntax said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:19
Wow, scary and relevant. Could you work in a reference to the Illuminati perhaps?…Just to stick the wingnuttery landing.
tigrismus said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:20
Own up, one of you bastards gave Paul the brown acid, didn’t you?
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:21
Ah, term limits. The tempest in a teapot par excellence of the right.
I mean, for some mysterious reason they became the sole protector of democracy in the horrific hell-years between Reagan announcing his Alzheimer’s and 2004, then they became a despicable limit on civil rights until “Bush is as popular as colon cancer and falling” sunk in. Which is to say earlier this month.
Me fanciful balls hain’t gonna tickle themselves, boyo.
Ronald Reagan said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:21
I may have been the world’s biggest illegal arms dealer (you’re welcome, Saddam!) but at least I didn’t kill a bunch of U.S. servicemen because I couldn’t restrain my childish hot-dogging, like John McCain did.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:22
It appears that Paul is good at at least one thing – being pwned.
Interestingly, it’s the one – and only – thing that repigs and conservatives excel at.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:26
Many, many repigs were elected in the prime years (the 80s) of term limit pledges, only to revoke those pledges when it came time to not run for reelection.
Nothing ever surprises me about repigs, except on those extremely rare occasions when they tell the truth or do something to help America.
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:26
Paul? As in Blart?
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:28
only to revoke those pledges when it came time to not run for reelection
It’s so infectious that Mike Bloomberg had to switch parties and run as a Republican so he could repudiate term limits.
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:28
I dunno. Pollak looks like he could be the illegitimate love child of Andrew McCarthy and Debbie Slushel. What’s his citizenship? Hmmm? Why was he (allegedly) raised in South Africa, so far away from America’s eyes? Does he have a green card? How did he get into Harvard?
So many questions, so little time before the tiny twerp’s 15 seconds is over.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:34
Naturally, only vault certified copies of these documents will do.
Jennifer said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:34
So many questions, so little time before the tiny twerp’s 15 seconds is over.
Sadly, No! As Not-Joe the Not-Plumber so aptly illustrates, there is an direct-ratio relationship between how repellantly stupid a rightwing “rising star” is and the ferocity with which the rightwing will promote said stupid person.
See “Palin, Sarah.” Also.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:35
there is an direct-ratio relationship between how repellantly stupid a rightwing “rising star” is and the ferocity with which the rightwing will promote said stupid person.
Ah. You refer to the Fellatio Ratio.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:36
“It was introduced while Bush was still President!”
But after BO was elected.
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:36
The only part of the Contract On America they actually cared about was the part where they got to steal a few dollars from the poorest people in the country. Not because they could actually do anything with it – just for spite.
As evinced by the razor-thin Congressional margins and harrowing election faced by the first Democratic candidate since his regime, truly Newt “The Lizard King” Gingrich has founded a political empire to stand proud for a thousand years. What’s that you say – he’s trying to run for President again? This time for sure!
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:37
I’m not sure about Joel The Not-Lawyer’s qualifications to be RTOTM*. The entire “We Hate Elitists Who Went To Snooty Colleges” wing of the nut brigade would have to be silenced.
* repig Tool Of The Month
The Blart Institute said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:38
Own up, one of you bastards gave Paul the brown acid, didn’t you?
Nope. We pay by the word, and we have a long weekend coming up, so our little bastards are all working extra hard today.
And when I say “pay,” I’m talking about dry salty crackers, not cash. It’s the new barter system, and we Galters are very excited about it.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:38
“It was introduced while Bush was still President!”
But after BO was elected.
But while his inauguration was uncertain because of some *snark* “challenges” to his citizenship.
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:41
Are you kidding? Like every other interminable kabuki show passing for a deep-held belief or moral precept in the GOP, it goes on hold on a moment’s notice for perceived political advantage. I mean, they ran a man born into the purple against a first-term black Senator on ‘elitist’. They’re a bunch of little Rothschilds sneering at the airs put on by their faggy lessers.
Urbane Republican said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:43
I use the term BO instead of President Obama because it is so hilariously witty.
Remember those days in 3rd grade when saying somebody you hated smelled like BO was considered the height of wit?
THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:45
“Purple”? You calling McCain a fag?
Clint said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:47
Amusing-
From Wikipedia
Lowest approval rating
Harry S Truman is tied for the lowest, at 22% (2/9-14/1952 — during the Korean War).
George W. Bush is tied for the lowest, at 22% (1/11-15/2009 – for various reasons).
tigrismus said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:48
And when I say “pay,” I’m talking about dry salty crackers, not cash. It’s the new barter system, and we Galters are very excited about it.
Aw, that makes me miss Rugged. *sniffle*
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:48
Don’t forget what the repigs do to make sure no charges of elitism ever reach them.
*) have a CT blueblood who looks like a chimp take on a southern drawl and quickly buy a show ranch right before running for president
*) have a AZ blueblood seem to be in a raygun-like Altzenheimer haze when he can’t remember how many mansions he owns
*) have all the other blueblood running as repigs never, ever mention their education
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:49
Like every other interminable kabuki show passing for a deep-held belief or moral precept in the GOP, it goes on hold on a moment’s notice for perceived political advantage
Examining the GØP’s beliefs is like staring at a Necker cube. Ah, it’s facing ….wait, no it’s …”
I got yer Necker right here, WP!
Some Guy said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:49
“Oh yeah, and getting homeless people to vote Democrat by giving them cigarettes and bum wine. How wonderful.”
Even if that were true, like that’s different from Republicans getting rich people to vote for them by promising tax breaks, and poor people by scaring them with talk about taking guns away?
Or perhaps Republicans believe that “Voter” should be short hand for “White Male Land Owner”?
“Chicago thuggery at its “finest”.”
It’s true; organized crime is WELL know for their socialistic agendas. Who among us could forget the St, Valentine’s Free Health Care Day?
Fail troll is fail, but at least he does it in a refreshing new way of failing.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:50
Yet Harry Truman is revered today even though he was hated then.
The same will happen with President Bush.
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:50
Look up “born into the purple”. If the first thing that comes up confuses, angers and/or arouses you, you may also want to look up “Emperor of Rome”, “the Roman empire”, “empire”, “state”, “history”, “the past”, “aristocracy”, “nepotism”, “heredity”, “birth”, “sexual intercourse”, “women”, and “John McCain”.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:51
“Purple”? You calling McCain a fag?
To be born into royalty, the elite, or nobility, you idiot…
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:52
I didn’t ask if purple was calling McCain a fag, my spoofer did.
Jennifer said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:52
Yet Harry Truman is revered today even though he was hated then.
The same will happen with President Bush.
This will occur in the Year of the Depends Adult Undergarment.
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 21:55
Advice stands.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:00
I’m willing to bet that El Chimpo will follow the Hitler model, not the Truman model.
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:01
John McCain was not a fag. When one of his wives has a disfiguring accident and can’t get his dick hard anymore, why, he cheats on her and eventually dumps her for a newer, hotter, richer wife! Marriage vows be damned. Sort of like Reagan dumping his first wife for Blow Job Nancy.
St. Jesus I said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:03
Incidentally, the approval ratings for Truman were during the worst months of the grueling, WWI-style stalemate which ultimately achieved little but changing the physical layout of the Seoul suburbs, and his Republican rival Eisenhower won the war on the promise of finding out what would be possible to bring an end to the ignominious meatgrinder as quickly as possible. The shamed nuke-enthusiast MacArthur existed as an alternative, but for some reason the public didn’t decide that the problem with Truman’s dogged pursuit of an endless war for a Japanese imperial fief was that he wasn’t doing it bloodily enough yet.
And the revival in Truman’s fortunes bottomed out in the 80s. These days he is revered primarily by dead-enders who hate everything he stands for and the All in the Family theme song; he was a middling President mainly remembered for carrying out the disgusting but necessary nuclear attack on Japan and desegregating the Army. The only good thing anyone sees in his handling of Korea is firing McA before he became a liability.
owlbear1 said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:04
So the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq wasn’t about WMDs and ‘Creating a Freedom Loving Democracy in the Middle-East!’? (:)~
It was actually about creating a “Truman-esque” legacy?
Explains a lot.
The REAL Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:04
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:04
Sort of like Reagan dumping his first wife for Blow Job Nancy.
Or Newtie dumping his 1st or 2nd wife for his 2nd or 3rd on her cancer-ward bedside.
Or Rush dumping his 1st, 2nd, and 3rd wives (never consummated) for some anonymous Dominican subteenage boy.
Or Larry Craig abandoning his wife for the joys of buggery in a bathroom stall.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:06
You libs wouldn’t know a thing about nobility anyway.
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:06
Favorite bit of wingnut cognitive dissonance in re. Dougie MacArthur: his primary resource in bringing the basic cultural and social elements to authoritarian Japan was the president of the ACLU.
Of course, doubtless one day we’ll regard our magnificent role in destroying a third of the Sunni population of urban Iraq as a far superior achievement to defeating fascism. Hindsight, you know?
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:07
In the interest of accuracy, Larry Craig did not consummate his marriage either.
Some Guy said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:09
“You libs wouldn’t know a thing about nobility anyway.”
Kinda the point of America. Love it or leave it. I hear the Arabs are still pretty into that whole royalty thing, though, you could give them a shot.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:09
I gotta disagree with you on the “necessary”.. Actually, not me. Ike.
“During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. … Japan was at that very moment seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face’. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my attitude… It wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing.” – Dwight Eisenhower, Mandate For Change, pg. 380, 1963
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:12
You libs wouldn’t know a thing about nobility anyway.
Wrongo, my little preening pile of spider poop! Not only do we know about it, we also know what to do to it.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:14
Nothing new there. Almost all repig trophy wives are too busy consummating with the pool boy or the delivery man to spend any time with their hubbies.
BTW, that is perfectly fine with the just about any repig in question, as he is usually too busy with wetsuits and diapers to worry about his wife.
Doctor Missus Marita said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:15
ZOMG! And he was so certain that this election would be thrown to Obama that he also introduced the same bill in 2007, 2005, 2003, 2001, and twice before that.
Dumbass troll is a total dumbass.
Mark Foley (R)-FL (ex) said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:15
Can y’all explain to me how this Twitter thing works?
Mark Foley (R)-FL (ex) said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:17
Is there a way for my tweets to only go to 13 to 15 year old
hotwell-mannered boys?kg said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:17
necessary?
Rush Limbaugh said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:18
Is there a way for my tweets to only go to 12 to 14 year old
hotwell-mannered boys?Larry Craig said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:19
Is there a way for my tweets to only go to 1 to 2 year old
hotwell-mannered bathroom stalls?Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:19
Limbaugh was never involved with young boys. It’s a liberal smear.
Prove it, or shut the fuck up!
Newt Gingrich said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:21
Mark, give me a shout. I’m planning to dump Callista by tweet so I’ve become something of an armchair expert.
owlbear1 said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:21
I read it on a blog somewhere. Must be true.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:21
Is there a way for my tweets to only go to 9 to 12 year old
hotwell-mannered boys?Young Boys said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:22
Mr. Limbaugh said it wouldn’t hurt and he was right. It was so small we barely felt it. Afterwords he bought us ice cream.
owlbear1 said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:22
amazing place, the internet.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:23
The Dr Mrs pwns once again.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:24
Rush NEVER screwed around with young boys!
He told me himself while he was giving me a colon cleaning with his manhood.
Young Boys said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:24
Still, though, when I smell cigar smoke and Aqua-Velva I cry.
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:25
I wouldn’t debate the merits of the second bomb, but I don’t think Eisenhower is correct. The Japanese had been defeated, but Japan had not. Outside of the surreal trust evidently put in the idea of Stalin as a favorable neutral negotiator (something so influential it evidently lead to Japanese forces in Manchuria attempting to avoid defending themselves against the advancing Red Army at any reasonable cost), the by then fully-Navy-dominated martial aristocracy had completely abandoned the idea of an exit objective for the war and within limits would do anything to keep it going.
From the US perspective, the critical thing to avoid a monstrous blockade and invasion (the blockade alone likely to kill millions of people owing to the primary importance of shipping food to and between the Home Islands and the then-critically-low levels of stored food) was providing the imperial house (the only countervailing power that actually existed domestically) a fitting pretext to declare the war lost and surrender inevitable. We had already burned Tokyo essentially to the ground at the cost of more lives than both atomic bombs put together; there was little else we could have done.
It is sometimes put in terms of convincing the around 20% of the Japanese population that thought the war was worth continuing in any fashion that it was not, but like our dead-enders their constituents in government had no real use for them. They were just a rhetorical figure justifying a foresworn effort to stick it out to the bitter end.
Young Boys said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:25
We didn’t like those pills that Mr. Limbaugh kept trying to give us. He was popping them like, oh I don’t know, like Laura Bush pops Xanax.
Marco said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:26
I think Paul is really Ben Shaprio previewing his next column here. Or is it an overview of Ben’s last 30 columns?
Dominican Republic Bureau of Tourism said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:29
No, it’s not true. Not true at all. Please come see us, we show you how untrue it is. Our boys are manly. They do only topping.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:29
It is sometimes put in terms of convincing the around 20% of the Japanese population that thought the war was worth continuing in any fashion that it was not,
The Japanese people would do anything the emperor told them to – as they did when he said to surrender after Nagasaki. Military historians pretty much agree that the nukes were to show the USSR who was going to be the Big Kid On The Block, postwar.
Japan just happened to be unlucky enough to be part of the posturing of the New American Empire. They deserved to be beaten, but not nuked.
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:29
Y’know, if there’s one group that will surely be able to defeat the International Muslim Conspiracy, it’s college students.
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:31
Just like telling his audience he was glad he didn’t have to dupe them into paying attention to the Party in 2006, his shrieking about addicts while popping pounds of powerful synthetic opiates, his utter failure to hold even a politically friendly audience he couldn’t turn off at will on a TV show, his militant refusal to verify his sky-high and yet mysteriously stationary ratings claims, his repeated fucking up any respectable career with sexual harassment and ethnic slurs, and his hilariously transparent attempt to game the primaries keeping them friendly in spite of their historic length, yes?
You know, because Rush Limbaugh’s a fucking prince, and it’d be terrible to impugn that beautiful man’s sterling reputation. An election-losing blunder, to be sure.
Rush Limbaugh said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:32
Young boys: take my boner out of your nose out and call me back.
Major Kong said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:33
You guys are doing it all wrong. You’re supposed to do it Fox News style.
Some people say that Rush was involved with young boys.
See? It’s not slander because I’m just reporting what some people say.
Emily Lutella said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:33
Y’know, if there’s one group that will surely be able to defeat the International Muslim Conspiracy, it’s college students.
Students can be hell on muslin. I’ve had to patch some doozies…
Wait, you said Muslim? Nevermind.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:34
You libs can’t prove I’m into feltching the guys on the football team. Try to!
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:34
…and his hilariously transparent attempt to game the primaries…
How’d that work out for ol’ Rush? Anybody have an old newspaper from Nov. 5 lying around?
Marco said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:35
Limbaugh was never involved with young boys, this is true. Rush can’t maintain a steady relationship. He’s just love them and leave them.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:36
All I have is Troofie’s account. McCain WON!
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:37
Oh noes! They can’t foil our International Muslin conspiracy!
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:39
Oh noes! They can’t foil our International Muslin conspiracy!
The X-ed out camera is a dead giveaway. What are they trying to hide?
Wyatt Watts III said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:42
Man: Do you like Muslin?
Woman: I don’t know, I’ve never Musled.
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:43
You’re underestimating the severe political interference in the imperial office. For pretty much his entire tenure Showa was a puppet of the governing elite with little more than a formal role in the affairs of the state. The Bomb was too singular to ignore, and even in the fairly quick sequence of events involved between the impact and the new-and-most-cruel speech the government went to enough effort to keep the Emperor locked down that the speech which ended the war had to be smuggled to a radio station in a laundry hamper.
Again, as of August 5 about 80% of the population had responded to polls pretty consistently with apathy to even utter defeat and the Emperor’s boosterism was visibly strained. A lesser catastrophe would simply have resulted in more severe Imperial cloistering for the duration and an abortive attempt at guerilla warfare – and even the first few weeks of Downfall would probably have starved out the lives ended by the bombs twice over. (And that’s assuming the vicious firebombing begun after Japan came into easy range of conventional bombers had ended beforehand – no reason to think it would.)
I think it’s a consideration, but I just think that calling it the solitary consideration is unnecessarily glib.
However pure or impure the motives, ‘nuked’ was in the short and long run less brutal. And on that matter, I can accept that the nuclear attack was wrong, but it’s something we lack the agency to apologize for. It was a standard act of a brutal war whose antagonist was tenderizing China like a cheap steak even at that late stage of events.
Jennifer said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:48
John McCain was not a fag.
Maybe not. But John Wayne? John Wayne was a fag.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:51
Alec, while I can understand and even agree with your analysis, and balance that with Repig’s statements, and their inherent validity, part of me wonders how on earth we could rationally use a weapon that we had no real experience testing (apart from the famous Trinity Test), much less using.
By the way, Repig, the Trinity Test results were given to the Soviet Union at Potsdam, which puts a dent in the “let’s whip out our biggest cock” theory.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:54
One does not excuse the other. We’ll have to agree to disagree on this. I’ll stick with the idea that Ike probably knew a lot more about the deep intricacies of the situation than you or I do.
And you’re right, there was more than just one reason for the nuke drop. Another reason was that America wanted to find out the effects of actually using one for real on a human population.
The argument about their dogged resistance can go the other way just as easily. If Japan was as hell bent on resistance as the historians insist, one or two nukes wouldn’t make much of a difference.
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:56
How can you guys start the “nuking Japan was justified/not justified” argument when we haven’t even settled Frazetta/Vallejo?
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:57
Results suggested something congruous enough with a normal firestorm, which (unfortunately) we had plenty of experience with. The poor understanding of fallout was the single biggest problem there, but on the balance one can kind of forgive military engineers in 1945 for not being particularly meticulous about where dust would wind up after they were done incinerating everything.
It’s not really his theory – it’s a big deal, and there’s at least some validity to it, especially in light of the timing vis-a-vis the planned Russian invasion. The date of the attack being well after both (a) it was understood approximately what the bomb would do and (b) we had the capability of doing it suggests a great deal of forethought, in addition to inadvertently putting my birthday 42 years after one of history’s worst tragedies and ruining my damn childhood.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:57
It’s not my theory, it’s the theory of many military and ordinary historians. Who knows if evidence would be believed by the Soviets? Faking of all kinds of documents, photos, data, movies, etc is very old indeed.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:57
Frazetti/Vallejo?
The solution is simple: Prosecco!
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 22:58
If it sounded like I said it was your theory, I’m sorry. I meant THE theory.
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:01
Nuking Frazetta early might have prevented a lot of sorrow later, as well as sent a message to the gathering threat of Vallejo
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:04
I just think that the main issue – not for you particularly but for the entire popular question of the justification of the bombings – is a Whiggish misperception of who fights a war. Especially for the kind of war we and Japan were in at that point, the critical thing was either untying or laying open the Gordian knot of the suicidal Junkers running the state – the populace was as terrified and indifferent as it could possibly be expected to be; it was necessary that either the Emperor be somehow freed to end the war or the military be convinced that nothing good could come of the fight. Beyond breaking the defense of the Home Islands by brute force (and again, in the process starving a lot of people), the only real alternative would seem to be the massive deployment of nerve gas, something we were a lot more squeamish about than burning people alive for some reason.
And in the end, I think you’re right that there’s no excusing what we did, but on the other hand there just isn’t any apologizing for it, either – at least not on our part. It was the apex of a brutal history of amoral violence stretching back half a century, and that kind of thing can only be justified, not excused.
PeeJ said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:04
Nonsense. Vallejo’s mission was never a threat to Frazetta. Also, Picard totally sucked.
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:07
Truly, we fought the wrong war.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:07
Vallejo’s mission was never a threat to Frazetta. Also, Picard totally sucked.
Vallejo was teh hawt because he used a Mac, where Frazetta was a PeeC.
St. Jesus VI: The False Prophet said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:08
But I heard Kirk was an emacs user!
Major Kong said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:12
I’m curious how much a role the Red Army’s (highly effective) offensive in Manchuria had in the Japanese decision to surrender.
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:12
The first half of this sentence is in perfect agreement with Ike’s assessment that the Japanese needed a way to “save face”. The second part is a mirror of the 1945-type reality on both sides War was going FORWARD and KILLING, not negotiation. It would have been awfully hard to tell Americans “we’ll just stop fighting for a while and try to negotiate with them”. You also had the agreements among the Allies that the only acceptable surrender was unconditional. Which, ironically enough, we did NOT do in Japan since we let the emperor keep his position.
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:15
Excellent article on that here. There really was a bizarre reliance on the idea of Stalin as a diplomatic savior among the military elite – kind of difficult to wrap your head around, considering.
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:15
Repig has a point: given the political climate that this war started in (even if most of that had disappated), it would have been hard for the US to claim victory in a negotiated sett–
Hm, sorta like 9/11 required an all-out offensive against Osama bin Hussein. I mean, Laden.
Fucking Bush. Fucking goddam Bush.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:20
Fucking Bush. Fucking goddam Bush.
His head will be on Mt Rushmore in 50 years. You can bookmark that one, lib!
actor212 said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:21
His head will be on Mt Rushmore in 50 years.
“On a pike” does not count as being engraved in the mountain, tho.
Paul said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:25
Mmmmmm. Anyone else like pie?
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:27
I really wish I had kept a link to the polls in question. It was especially hilarious in the waning days of Bush’s presidency – it seems there’s always one in five people stupid enough to take the hawks’ word for it no matter how badly it happens to be going.
(I maintain my thesis in slight disagreement with Dolan’s – the surrender of Japan essentially required a massive, horrifying turn of events after which the Emperor could not be removed as an agent in the discussion of foreign policy; the catastrophic failure of the hawks’ narrative depended both on the loss of Stalin as an outlet for honorable defeat and the inability to leak the bad news gradually and regroup. I don’t believe that Downfall would have been as arduous and difficult as is imagined – after all, only about one in five Japanese subjects actually thought the war worth fighting under any circumstances, so there were far too few people to whip up a protracted guerilla war – but it’s still best we didn’t even have to start preparing for it. And it also meant the lack of a major diplomatic actor breaking hearts with nerve gas and the presence of a stark reminder of the absolute violence of nuclear weapons – so no normalization of chemical or nuclear warfare. The standard Pangloss story about Hiroshima is wrong, but the act itself is still defensible. Vaguely.)
commie atheist said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:38
It’s just too bad Joel’s unrehearsed spontaneity didn’t happen before CPAC or he would have won the Super Medal of Freest Freedom or something.
Speaking of which, whatever happened to that insufferable little kid who they were hailing as the Future of Conservatism at CPAC? Did they go all Menudo on him and kick him out of the movement because his voice got deeper and he had to start shaving?
I am disappointed that only 20% of Americans are openly in favor of socialism. However, we will keep working on it.
El Cid, don’t forget that 27% “aren’t sure.” Another few points added to the unemployment rate might just help them makeup their minds.
Now, back to your previously scheduled episode of “Arguing with Trolls: Paul is Dead Edition.”
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:40
Vallejo’s mission was never a threat to Frazetta.
Mission: Vallejo
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:40
They left him alone with Limp Paws, and the next day he entered a convent without making a comment.
Rusty Shackleford said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:48
They left him alone with Limp Paws, and the next day he entered a convent without making a comment.
Except “the belly hair burned my back”
You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:50
You did the dieters of America a great favor with that quip. Not too many dinners are going to be eaten after imagining that.
JM said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:50
There really was a bizarre reliance on the idea of Stalin as a diplomatic savior among the military elite – kind of difficult to wrap your head around, considering.
Iirc, because the US had no direct contact with the Empire of Japan, and all communications were routed through our Soviet allies.
alec said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:53
So here’s what I don’t get: why go after Frank? Have they really drunk the Kool-Aid so deeply they’re completely ignorant of how good he is at being a snarky asshole, or are they just so completely dependent on the gay-bashing angle to get it up that they can’t go to the trouble of hectoring Dodd?
That and it was just sad the way he did it. It’s as if he rehearsed with a pitch-shifted version of O’Reilly or someone – he seems to anticipate Frank struggling to defend his personal involvement in something that happened before his tenure and had little influence on the actual crisis. I know it’s a lot to ask, but aren’t there any Republicans left who actually took fucking speech and debate?
tigrismus said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:54
But I heard Kirk was an emacs user!
Ed.
tigrismus said,
April 9, 2009 at 23:55
the dieters of America
TOUCH MY MONKEY.
PeeJ said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:05
It’s too funnay! They try to pile on Barney Frank, widely considered to be the smartest guy in the House. There’s a video of GØP fool (and closet case) Pat McHenry getting schooled in the House by Barney, That’d be Barney Frank, not the friendly purple (is Barney gay?) dinosaur though I’m sure that Barney could do it also but not as well. Anyway, Pat McCocksucker (and I mean that in the not good way) abusefully tries to ask a question on parliamentary procedure and Barney Frank (the House Parliamentarian) doesn’t get upset. He just keeps slapping lil Patsy upside the haid.
And they never learn. That’s why it’s funnier every time.
Wyatt Watts III said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:11
Barney Frank Frazetta?
J— said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:11
I know it’s a lot to ask, but aren’t there any Republicans left who actually took fucking speech and debate?
This dude is in his last semester of Harvard Law School. He should be well trained in argument and debate and should elicit no sympathy if his interlocutor engages him pointedly.
This Frank press release (“Frank Seeks Antidote to Republican Amnesia“) from March has some amusing passages. He has no patience for their bullshit and shouldn’t.
alec said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:18
I like to use ‘cocksucker’ to describe the habit of mechanical, joyless licking of dick for personal advantage. I find it reinforced by a self-explanatory parallel applicable to (say) Larry Craig or Rush Limbaugh: ‘cuntfucker’.
J— said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:23
And they never learn. That’s why it’s funnier every time.
That’s right. One of my favorite Frank smackdowns came right after the first bailout bill failed in the House.
Principal Blackman said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:39
OT: KERNERS ARE GO! (Line-of-sight edition)
PeeJ said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:40
Yep, that’s a good’n. I especially like the comments. If you didn’t read the comments, go back and do so. Precious.
Jennifer said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:44
Speaking of smackdowns, if you missed this one from Jon Stewart the other night, it’s well worth a view.
I love Barney Frank. He’s one of our few elected officials who doesn’t shy away from pointing out that there’s a turd in the punchbowl, it stinks, and pretending it isn’t there isn’t going to make it go away. Such frankness is often considered “uncivil” in political circles, but it’s really one of the most effective ways to get things done.
Principal Blackman said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:45
OT: KERNERS ARE GO! (Line-of-sight edition). Next up: A full re-enactment of the event using GI Joes.
Lesley said,
April 10, 2009 at 0:57
Too bad Ed Helms isn’t still on The Daily Show. He’d do a perfect a send up of this asshole.
Doctor Missus Marita said,
April 10, 2009 at 1:03
Hey, where did Paul go? I’ve been waiting for him to explain to me that Serrano trying to repeal the 22nd amendment in 1997 and 1999 was because of Clinton something [mumble] something [throat clearing] FASCISTS!
PeeJ said,
April 10, 2009 at 1:21
“Marriage is the only institution we have that brings together the two great halves of humanity, male and female.” – high preist of that organization that just put out the world’s worst anti-gay-marriage ad EVAH.
I’m still trying to figure out what’s happening in her febrile little haid.
FY FY FY FY WP
FY FY FY FY FY
Also, DMM, I couldn’t get anybody together in short order for the beef. *sigh* We _did_ pick up some grass fed beef and pasture lamb at the marmer’s farket two weeks ago. It was damn fine eating.
[folks, I didn't say organic because this is Oregon, you can't hardly buy non-organic anything round these parts]
Daphne Chyprious said,
April 10, 2009 at 1:35
Yikes. I’d rather attend a Tea Party than this event. Though the guy’s such a lousy writer I’m not sure it’s as bad as he makes it out to be.
Righteous Bubba said,
April 10, 2009 at 1:38
It’s true! I enter the room and women bolt.
Paul said,
April 10, 2009 at 1:49
Looks like BO is going to try to push Amnesty through Congress.
This will be the beggining of the end of his supposed “popularity”. The American people DO NOT want Amnesty for Illegals.
St. Jesus I said,
April 10, 2009 at 1:51
Of course. You guys’s big high-pitched slap-fight with the President over that one was a beginning of a new era of popularity and electoral prowess for the Republicans.
Seriously. Why don’t you see about retroactively having the Italians thrown out for all that Godfather shit. Midterms? In the bag.
Paul said,
April 10, 2009 at 1:54
Obama’s tactics are a bit like drug dealers giving their mark the first “hit” for free, knowing that down the line they will have a customer for life (however this free hit is provided with taxpayer money).
The first “hit” of stimulus money causes tax increases down the line for businesses just as the first “hit” of TARP money has gotten the government control of who in private industry gets to keep their job or money. AIG gets raked over the coals for 165m in bonuses while Fannie and Freddie get away with over 200m of the same.
This type of intervention should scare voters of all stripes, this year it may be the democrats pushing their agenda next it may be the republicans.
m1k3y said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:04
Why hasn’t that clown been disemvowled?
Was it nothing more than a brief experiment? ‘Cause I’d sure like to point out that IT WORKED! This thread might be useful as exhibit A in why it was a great solution.
Idiots spew idiocy. You cannot argue with idiots without getting some on you.
But I did notice the mention of Immigration Reform before I hit the kill switch.
Fuck the idiot. He’s got nothing serious nor funny to offer.
But Obama is BRILLIANT in the way he’s playing this. You watch. He’ll time it so that going into the 2010 midterm elections he’ll have the leading lights of the republican party struggling to out-bigot each other at a time when the gay, latino, asian and black constituencies, if they hate you, represent enough of the electorate to ensure you will NEVER win a leadership position.
Using their frothing batshit insanity to beat them. I do appreciate the art in that…
mikey
larkspur said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:17
Paul, you are not real. I have never seen you.
Paul said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:19
“But Obama is BRILLIANT in the way he’s playing this. You watch. He’ll time it so that going into the 2010 midterm elections he’ll have the leading lights of the republican party struggling to out-bigot each other at a time when the gay, latino, asian and black constituencies”
By supporting massive amnesty for Illegal Aliens at a time of double-digit unemployment, Democrats will cede the Union workers in the rustbelt to our side. Moron.
g said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:22
Paul is a textbook case of the delusion exhibited by the right wing. Classic.
Ryan said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:26
Republicans might (might!) have a chance at winning a national election if they formed their own nation. I’d put the odds at 3:1.
Paul said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:29
Whats more, by doing this BO is throwing his black supporters under the bus as they take black American’s jobs. The “rainbow coalition” falls apart once they hate someone besides whitey, lol.
alec said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:30
A, I’m not getting ‘disemvowelled’, probably because of my habit of disappearing for shrieking benders. So your complaint here is opaque on that score.
B, I did what I could to keep my part in the mess sterilizable and fully encourage anyone else to do so, especially if they’re a little on the gassy side. (Actor, I’m talking to you here.)
C, and most importantly, an important clue in the mystery of why there’s a constituency for verbally abusing the odd dittohead sadist who wanders in here is that we’re not discussing this in the comments section of Molecular Gastronomy Is Total Bullshit or Sadly, Bond Issues!
We all have hobbies. Mine is trying to wheedle as much fraudulent fae oral as possible from the Internet. I ain’t piss on yours, do I?
ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:31
g, he’s also a textbook case of the need for disemvowelment.
So Sadly, No! is Sadly, Slow! again, AND we have an overly verbose, ignorant, full-assed troll?
Noooooooooooooooo!
alec said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:33
Sorry: odd dittohead masochist. And my meaning was that I don’t know what it is you mean when you say what you say. The term is lost on me, and I do a lot of mean things to people online.
SomeNYGuy said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:34
You know, if you play a certain Toby Keith record backwards it sounds like he’s saying “I buried Paul.” True story.
cyntax said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:36
Yeah, we haven’t had the republicans pushing their agenda in at least–what–60-70 days?
The inadvertent irony is strong in this one…
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:59
Mikey, I hit the killfile before you did.
Hence, midwestern zombie architects are demonstrably superior to west coast veterans….
Hey, don’t get pissed at me; but the timesigs don’t lie.
El Cid said,
April 10, 2009 at 2:59
They’re really going to cry when all the new citizens from recent immigrant backgrounds vote Democratic, thus resigning the Republican party to a few plantation and militia strongholds in the white male South and West. Hee hee hee.
m1k3y said,
April 10, 2009 at 3:00
Well, Alec, if you think a Sadly, No! thread where people take the bait and try to argue with idiots who don’t even plan on arguing in good faith is more entertaining that a Sadly, No! thread where smart people snark brilliantly on the the stupid of the day as presented by the post itself, well, if that’s the case you and I are just at loggerheads.
But somehow, my experience with your work is you are a little more interesting than that.
But hey. Argue away. Let me know how that all works out for you, ok?
mikey
zombie rotten mcdonald said,
April 10, 2009 at 3:18
well, while alec tilts at troll-mills, you and I can compare mid-alterring substances, mikey. at least I’m willing to…
Lesley said,
April 10, 2009 at 3:26
“disemvowel” is one of the greatest new words EVER.
alec said,
April 10, 2009 at 3:31
I don’t abide by taking the bait. The default stance towards a troll is that he is some mixture of liar and idiot, and after the entertaining process of detecting how much of each, you go on and slap him around however appropriate until he starts repeating himself or copying and pasting the RSS from a favored windbag.
And it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, so whenever I am specifically abusing the troll it’s under a nym whose every relative should be permanently off, for its comments portend nothing but sound and fury signifying the Internet.
I encourage each part of this out of all comers, but especially the latter, because I can legitimately understand not wanting to deal with some mouth-breather who’s been banned from a local gloryhole for a couple days and has to occupy himself otherwise. It’s the main reason that, unlike the intrepid goons running this blog, I don’t read their sources.
I’m not trying to convince you to join in, I’m just trying to say that there’s something to it (better bully some asshole who clearly wants it than anyone else, after all) and this is more fitting a place than most online for it. And I’m trying to make it less dribbly and unpleasant than it was in the high awful days of Troofus Prime.
Besides which, sometimes the stupid of the day is just kind of self-explanatory, you know? This guy is basically Sarah Palin minus ovaries, plus a stupid accent, and divided by a few months’ fifteen minutes. What in the hell can you say to that?
Bina said,
April 10, 2009 at 3:33
Helen Keller published her autobiography when she was 22. What a bitch.
Also, she was a socialist. I googled it.
shortale said,
April 10, 2009 at 4:23
Isn’t that “minstrel” more like Baron Hammedi, the voodoo answer to the grim reaper? This crowd just gets creepier with each new link.
professor fate said,
April 10, 2009 at 4:31
One thing I’ve noticed about Paul and the 1,000 other folks laboring over on the right wing – they all feel that if they just find the magic Obama Gaffe that we will all smack our foreheads and say “Oh my god we voted for a black man! A Democratic one a that! How could we!” and it’ll go back to being oh 2003 again and we will elect another man child simpelton and we will go to war with Iran and all will be well.
It’s not going to happen. He’s going to be president until at least 2012 longer if he wins a second term and I wouldn’t like to be a GOP campaign guy trying to beat him with the collection of retreds and mouthbreathers they have now.
The fact is he’s the preisident and he’s not going to be reduced to a non-entity over any bs like his brith certificate, his grades, his height his smoking or buying the President of Germany a new vibrator no matter how much the right wing wishes it would.
If he spends time at a birthday party for a senator while a major city is abandoned to rising waters and snakes they might have something. I-pods and made up stuff about homeless – not so much.
and one more thing – calm down – he’s only been president since January – you folks are going end up wandering the streets screaming wordless gibbersh and smearing youself with your own filth by July you keep this up.
HTML Mencken said,
April 10, 2009 at 4:56
I think it’s a consideration, but I just think that calling it the solitary consideration is unnecessarily glib.
Really? You don’t think Harry Truman was that cynical? I do. He instantly went from a relatively conciliatory attitude to the Soviets (a policy inherited from FDR) to totally antagonistic to them, and the about-face came exactly at the moment he was told that the
Death Starbomb was operational. That’s no coincidence.Those people were incinerated to scare Stalin — already universally known as paranoid madman who could be cultivated to some degree with friendly overtures but whose absolute worst decisions were made out of fear. So not only was the decision to drop the bombs evil; it was also stupid. Ok, scare is perhaps too vague. The nukes were a gruesome geopolitical form of a Dear John letter from the U.S. to the Soviets denoting that the Allied partnership was effectively severed forthwith. The mushroom clouds put the Soviets on notice.
Naturally, Harry Truman is to this day worshipped by neocons and liberal hawks alike.
alec said,
April 10, 2009 at 6:36
It’s possible, but this version of events has (at least from Truman’s perspective) never added up for me – particularly owing to the “military base” remarks and the expressions of solemnity and near-term contrition appropriate only if that were actually the case.
It’s very easy to portray him as a devious mastermind, but he barely understood the underlying physics by the time the attack occurred and I just don’t think he had either the canniness or savagery necessary to play the part the counterculture historiography casts him for. I don’t think he was a complete dupe or innocent, either, but he was no Custis LeMay.
This might be the case in the wider geopolitical context (I lean generally towards it with the caveat that a distinct rather than opportunistic anti-Soviet tendency didn’t emerge until the second half of the 40s and the earliest and the ‘loss’ of China and the first desectorization of Germany at the latest), but in the context of the Japanese war there were specific reasons to make some kind of dramatic and catastrophically abusive display of unprecedented ability or volition (a worse way to either level cities or carve Japanese infantrymen out of caves) which motivated the nuclear attacks. As for Truman himself, the single biggest push factor would probably have been a desire to prevent by however brutal means the war in the Pacific theatre from becoming ‘his’, especially after the defeat of the Axis in Europe.
Which is more than enough to disqualify him from this grisly role. After all, he was evidently capable of guilt, which I have on good authority is the main reason the Muslim bacillus is outbreeding us.
Big Bad Bald Bastard said,
April 10, 2009 at 8:41
Helen Keller published her autobiography when she was 22. What a bitch.
Also, she was a socialist. I googled it.
So, an egotist and a parasite… I’ll bet she was a feminazi to boot! Good thing Affirmative Action wasn’t around in those days, so she could rob a white boy of good breeding of his rightful place in the world.
On topic, the fact that this exchange has been edited for the TV machine is hilarious. Why won’t reality stick to the goddamn narrative cooked up by AEI, Heritage, and Cato?
he flips said,
April 10, 2009 at 10:28
“Sort of like Reagan dumping his first wife for Blow Job Nancy”
Still laughing at that one
Kip W said,
April 22, 2009 at 5:46
What you are forgetting is that Joel Pollak knows the first rule of Winning for Wingnuts: If you can keep on smirking, it doesn’t matter what they do to you factually. This is equivalent to comment trolls who win in their own minds as long as they keep replying, “Nuh-UH.”
ps: Jane jettisoned Ron.
Nancy said,
December 9, 2009 at 0:44
everything i have read on these remarks convinces me that the inmates are running the asylum..obama the chief nut
that is why i believe in abortion..to bad you people missed the cut
tigrismus said,
December 9, 2009 at 0:57
Aww, bless your heart, aren’t you sweet. Let me guess: Christian? Compassionate conservative? Anyway, have a happy holidays, hon.
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