Comments on: Boner’s Ark http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html Poise! Poise! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:30:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: actor212 http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-807139 actor212 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:20:09 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-807139 <i>Why the obsession whether a voter voted both for prop 8 and Obama?</i> I can't speak for Troofie, but the inference I believe he wants us to take away from this is that the blacks in California hate the gays. What that's supposed to mean is beyond me. I think it means taht Democrats don't march lockstep with each other. Perhaps it means that Troofie feels that gay is the new black. I'm not sure. Why the obsession whether a voter voted both for prop 8 and Obama?

I can’t speak for Troofie, but the inference I believe he wants us to take away from this is that the blacks in California hate the gays.

What that’s supposed to mean is beyond me. I think it means taht Democrats don’t march lockstep with each other. Perhaps it means that Troofie feels that gay is the new black.

I’m not sure.

]]> By: mapaghimagsik http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-805149 mapaghimagsik Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:06:27 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-805149 Okay, I'll bite. Why the obsession whether a voter voted both for prop 8 and Obama? I don't think its any secret that many "conservatives" were willing to vote for the black guy cuz they *hated* 12 McMansion McCain, and distrusted him to run the country. Okay, I’ll bite. Why the obsession whether a voter voted both for prop 8 and Obama? I don’t think its any secret that many “conservatives” were willing to vote for the black guy cuz they *hated* 12 McMansion McCain, and distrusted him to run the country.

]]> By: mapaghimagsik http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-805148 mapaghimagsik Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:03:50 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-805148 Good illustration is hard. I won't ding Lickskillet for that -- but it is boring. Its funny how most comics with a real political bent seem to get to boring really fast -- I think cuz it can get so wonky. But everyone else has already hit the right observations here -- boring dialog, using the old conservative tropes -- and then it *has* to be the libruls fault! Sometimes, Prickly City seems to "get it", though I think its more a venting of disgust for Bush than anything. Then he's back to "Democrats are Commies" and shite like that. There are some conservatives out there who can really illustrate. But I think conservativism failed them or at the very least, the Republicans did. Good illustration is hard. I won’t ding Lickskillet for that — but it is boring. Its funny how most comics with a real political bent seem to get to boring really fast — I think cuz it can get so wonky.

But everyone else has already hit the right observations here — boring dialog, using the old conservative tropes — and then it *has* to be the libruls fault!

Sometimes, Prickly City seems to “get it”, though I think its more a venting of disgust for Bush than anything. Then he’s back to “Democrats are Commies” and shite like that.

There are some conservatives out there who can really illustrate. But I think conservativism failed them or at the very least, the Republicans did.

]]> By: windy http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-804930 windy Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:38:33 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-804930 <i>Prop 8 Yea 6,838,107 52.3% Nay 6,246,463 47.7%</i> <i>That’s a total of 13 million votes. In fact, slightly more people voted on Prop 8 than voted for President!</i> Freaky... so regardless of undervoting and so on, we can say that at least 1,935,829 non-McCain-voters must have voted for prop 8. Assuming that what Comedy Arbiter is trying to imply is true, I am going to have to conclude that every black Californian over the age of seven or thereabouts must have voted for prop 8. Prop 8
Yea 6,838,107 52.3%
Nay 6,246,463 47.7%
That’s a total of 13 million votes. In fact, slightly more people voted on Prop 8 than voted for President!

Freaky…
so regardless of undervoting and so on, we can say that at least 1,935,829 non-McCain-voters must have voted for prop 8.

Assuming that what Comedy Arbiter is trying to imply is true, I am going to have to conclude that every black Californian over the age of seven or thereabouts must have voted for prop 8.

]]> By: actor212 http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803662 actor212 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:12:28 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803662 Election data California 2008 November election: Barack Obama (Dem) 8,063,473 61.1% John McCain (Rep) 4,902,278 37.1% That's a total of 13 million votes. Prop 8 Yea 6,838,107 52.3% Nay 6,246,463 47.7% That's a total of 13 million votes. In fact, slightly more people voted on Prop 8 than voted for President! Counties voting no: Humboldt Mendocino Sonoma Marin Napa Yolo Alameda Contra Costa San Francisco San Mateo Santa Cruz Santa Clara Monterey Santa Barbara Funny...those are all coastal counties and several urban counties... Election data California 2008 November election:

Barack Obama (Dem) 8,063,473 61.1%
John McCain (Rep) 4,902,278 37.1%

That’s a total of 13 million votes.

Prop 8

Yea 6,838,107 52.3%
Nay 6,246,463 47.7%

That’s a total of 13 million votes. In fact, slightly more people voted on Prop 8 than voted for President!

Counties voting no:

Humboldt
Mendocino
Sonoma
Marin
Napa
Yolo
Alameda
Contra Costa
San Francisco
San Mateo
Santa Cruz
Santa Clara
Monterey
Santa Barbara

Funny…those are all coastal counties and several urban counties…

]]> By: Bitter Scribe http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803624 Bitter Scribe Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:38:16 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803624 ...<i>conservatives never really claimed him as one of their own, maybe because he was particularly vicious toward the religious right. </i>O'Rourke never clicked with the Religious Right because his main audience among conservatives is rich people. He has a devotion to people of inherited wealth that's almost embarrassing in its slavishness. This may be because he grew up in one of those families that prefer to call themselves "broke" rather than "poor." IOW, a key target demographic for Republicans who need support from the people they're screwing over. One of his critics (a guy who worked with him at the old National Lampoon and couldn't stand him) once remarked that the core of his humor was always: If you're so smart, why ain't you rich? …conservatives never really claimed him as one of their own, maybe because he was particularly vicious toward the religious right.

O’Rourke never clicked with the Religious Right because his main audience among conservatives is rich people. He has a devotion to people of inherited wealth that’s almost embarrassing in its slavishness.

This may be because he grew up in one of those families that prefer to call themselves “broke” rather than “poor.” IOW, a key target demographic for Republicans who need support from the people they’re screwing over.

One of his critics (a guy who worked with him at the old National Lampoon and couldn’t stand him) once remarked that the core of his humor was always: If you’re so smart, why ain’t you rich?

]]> By: gil mann http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803588 gil mann Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:29:59 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803588 <EM>As for Rourke, he’d say anything in a time of a lot of pieties</EM> Y'know how Public Enemy was a black nationalist rap group with an audience that skewed 75% white? O'Rourke was kinda like that---in his heyday, conservatives never really claimed him as one of their own, maybe because he was particularly vicious toward the religious right. His key demo, whether he knows it or not, was always liberal, albeit the kind of liberal who can't stand the hyper-earnest "the personal is political!" types. "Hunting the Virtuous and How to Clean and Skin Them" is a hilariously brutal takedown of bleeding-hearts, and I imagine it's a more satisfying read for someone who leans left than for a hardcore right-winger, kinda like how comedy revolving around cruelty to animals is only funny if you're an animal lover. Unfortunately for him, Bush (and going back, the Gingrich Republicans) swelled the liberal ranks to include everyone who doesn't suck wholesale, so his recent stuff is just irrelevant, even if he gets off the occasional good line. As for Rourke, he’d say anything in a time of a lot of pieties

Y’know how Public Enemy was a black nationalist rap group with an audience that skewed 75% white? O’Rourke was kinda like that—in his heyday, conservatives never really claimed him as one of their own, maybe because he was particularly vicious toward the religious right.

His key demo, whether he knows it or not, was always liberal, albeit the kind of liberal who can’t stand the hyper-earnest “the personal is political!” types. “Hunting the Virtuous and How to Clean and Skin Them” is a hilariously brutal takedown of bleeding-hearts, and I imagine it’s a more satisfying read for someone who leans left than for a hardcore right-winger, kinda like how comedy revolving around cruelty to animals is only funny if you’re an animal lover.

Unfortunately for him, Bush (and going back, the Gingrich Republicans) swelled the liberal ranks to include everyone who doesn’t suck wholesale, so his recent stuff is just irrelevant, even if he gets off the occasional good line.

]]> By: RvB http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803524 RvB Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:45:15 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803524 The Conservatives wear bow ties as their way of kissing the dead butt of Winston Churchill. It is a sign by which they recognize each other. As for Rourke, he'd say anything in a time of a lot of pieties, and he was funny. And then he went to work for Rolling Stone and did brilliant things like comparing the economic health of Fremont, California to the economic health of Karachi, Pakistan, saying that the former proved the robustness of capitalism and the latter the inanity of a planned economy. And, for lack of a better word, FAIL. The Conservatives wear bow ties as their way of kissing the dead butt of Winston Churchill. It is a sign by which they recognize each other. As for Rourke, he’d say anything in a time of a lot of pieties, and he was funny. And then he went to work for Rolling Stone and did brilliant things like comparing the economic health of Fremont, California to the economic health of Karachi, Pakistan, saying that the former proved the robustness of capitalism and the latter the inanity of a planned economy. And, for lack of a better word, FAIL.

]]> By: me http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803379 me Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:47:53 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803379 Ha ha ha ha! That's really funny because, like, he was cutting the percentage even though the money was, like, less because of the economic downturn and he didn't need to because it was a proportion (*). And they are corrupt liberals in the Democrat party! Geddit? * Actually I suspect the author is too dumb to realise this. Ha ha ha ha! That’s really funny because, like, he was cutting the percentage even though the money was, like, less because of the economic downturn and he didn’t need to because it was a proportion (*). And they are corrupt liberals in the Democrat party! Geddit?

* Actually I suspect the author is too dumb to realise this.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803370 Patrick Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:29:32 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803370 My prediction for Muir's piece of shit comic: The "story arc" will once again turn to pregnancy and an infant, for the sole purpose of providing Muir an excuse to display his breastfeeding fetish in every strip for a year. Mark my words. Also, its hilarious how he'll draw women in thongs and topless but censors profanity. Classy guy. My prediction for Muir’s piece of shit comic: The “story arc” will once again turn to pregnancy and an infant, for the sole purpose of providing Muir an excuse to display his breastfeeding fetish in every strip for a year. Mark my words.

Also, its hilarious how he’ll draw women in thongs and topless but censors profanity. Classy guy.

]]> By: Marsupial http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803333 Marsupial Tue, 10 Feb 2009 05:09:34 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803333 Actually, FWIW, I think PJ O'Rourke is the ONE funny conservative out there. He's probably one of my favorite (current) writers -- although I had to kind of tune him out for a while there because I just couldn't take anymore. He finally came around to some sense of clarity though. Holidays in Hell was my first of his, and the book I usually tell others to read first. Modern Manners is also great. But, he has one called Age & Guile Beat Youth, Innocence & a Bad Haircut, which is like a career retrospective, going back to his college days. Jeebus -- some of his stuff in there is hysterical! It's not ALL political writing. (Some of his funniest stuff is from Automobile magazine.) Actually, FWIW, I think PJ O’Rourke is the ONE funny conservative out there. He’s probably one of my favorite (current) writers — although I had to kind of tune him out for a while there because I just couldn’t take anymore. He finally came around to some sense of clarity though.

Holidays in Hell was my first of his, and the book I usually tell others to read first. Modern Manners is also great. But, he has one called Age & Guile Beat Youth, Innocence & a Bad Haircut, which is like a career retrospective, going back to his college days. Jeebus — some of his stuff in there is hysterical! It’s not ALL political writing. (Some of his funniest stuff is from Automobile magazine.)

]]> By: parsec http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803259 parsec Tue, 10 Feb 2009 03:16:18 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803259 Sen. Malarkey's family's been in political offices for generations, runs businesses into the ground, and uses government to reward their cronies? They need to change the name to BUSH. Sen. Malarkey’s family’s been in political offices for generations, runs businesses into the ground, and uses government to reward their cronies? They need to change the name to BUSH.

]]> By: jim http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803225 jim Tue, 10 Feb 2009 02:39:13 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803225 Nights in Black Velvet The trailer roof still leaks - My daughter's only fourteen & she already tweaks. The old lady looks like A dog who chases parked cars, & I burn down half my paycheque Dragging her to strip-bars. Her hawtness is toast now, & my chubbies no more - The worst part of all is She won't even go whore ... She don't put out She don't put out - Whooooooooa-whoawhoawhoa-waaaah-waaaah! Nights in Black Velvet
The trailer roof still leaks -
My daughter’s only fourteen
& she already tweaks.
The old lady looks like
A dog who chases parked cars,
& I burn down half my paycheque
Dragging her to strip-bars.
Her hawtness is toast now,
& my chubbies no more -
The worst part of all is
She won’t even go whore …
She don’t put out
She don’t put out – Whooooooooa-whoawhoawhoa-waaaah-waaaah!

]]> By: Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803200 Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:53:10 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803200 <i>Huh. I guess I don’t get it. Cancer is funny?</i> I don't think so, personally, but for a while there one of the newspaper funnies was about little else. Hence <a href="http://www.shortpacked.com/d/20070416.html" rel="nofollow">the parody</a>. Huh. I guess I don’t get it. Cancer is funny?

I don’t think so, personally, but for a while there one of the newspaper funnies was about little else. Hence the parody.

]]> By: Big Bad Bald Bastard http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803193 Big Bad Bald Bastard Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:48:53 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803193 <I>Liberal comedians and cartoonists have expressed great anguish at the rise of Barack Obama to the presidency, because having a perfect president makes it impossible to make fun of Washington,” says Richard Viguerie</I> <a HREF="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=217026&title=Elephant-in-the-Room" rel="nofollow">Indeed</A> The "Giggle Time All-Mo" bit is to funny forever. Liberal comedians and cartoonists have expressed great anguish at the rise of Barack Obama to the presidency, because having a perfect president makes it impossible to make fun of Washington,” says Richard Viguerie

Indeed

The “Giggle Time All-Mo” bit is to funny forever.

]]> By: MzNicky http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803191 MzNicky Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:48:23 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803191 <i>Actually, O’Rourke HAS actually done something funny in the past year! / O’Rourke revealed on September 28, 2008 that he has been diagnosed with treatable anal cancer</i> Huh. I guess I don't get it. Cancer is funny? Actually, O’Rourke HAS actually done something funny in the past year! / O’Rourke revealed on September 28, 2008 that he has been diagnosed with treatable anal cancer

Huh. I guess I don’t get it. Cancer is funny?

]]> By: J— http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803108 J— Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:24:09 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803108 Screaming Jay Hawkins: Genius or Fucking Genius? Screaming Jay Hawkins: Genius or Fucking Genius?

]]> By: OB-GYN Kenobi http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803050 OB-GYN Kenobi Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:29:44 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803050 <i>So this means McCain voters, even if all of them voted Pro, could not have passed Prop Two by themselves. Some Obama voters must have joined them and voted Pro.</i> Not necessarily. Depends on how many of the McCain voters and Obama voters actually voted on Prop 8. Are you at all familiar with the concept of undervoting? I thought not. <i>Take the reverse. If every or even most Obama voters had voted no, Prop Two would not have passed. Can you see this liberals?</i> Shrug. You really don't understand statistics, do you? You've got at least three statistical fallacies going on here. Biased sampling (presuming that app Presidential voters also voted on Prop 8) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biased_sample False Causality (Prop 8 passed, ergo some Obama voters must have voted for it) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causality Dredging/Overfitting(<i>post hoc ergo propter hoc</i> reasoning) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_dredging Read these, then get back to us. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_literacy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics So this means McCain voters, even if all of them voted Pro, could not have passed Prop Two by themselves. Some Obama voters must have joined them and voted Pro.

Not necessarily. Depends on how many of the McCain voters and Obama voters actually voted on Prop 8. Are you at all familiar with the concept of undervoting? I thought not.

Take the reverse. If every or even most Obama voters had voted no, Prop Two would not have passed. Can you see this liberals?

Shrug. You really don’t understand statistics, do you? You’ve got at least three statistical fallacies going on here.

Biased sampling (presuming that app Presidential voters also voted on Prop 8) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biased_sample

False Causality (Prop 8 passed, ergo some Obama voters must have voted for it) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causality

Dredging/Overfitting(post hoc ergo propter hoc reasoning)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_dredging

Read these, then get back to us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_literacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics

]]> By: Rusty Shackleford http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-803023 Rusty Shackleford Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:02:42 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-803023 Devil on the Can's get them ol' <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAclTN2eqyQ" rel="nofollow">Constipation Blues.</a> Devil on the Can’s get them ol’ Constipation Blues.

]]> By: J— http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16927.html#comment-802985 J— Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:30:06 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=16927#comment-802985 Oh, shit! It's <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/indignico/2804922803/in/set-72157600017697735/" title="Jesus licks!" rel="nofollow">The Jesus</a>. Oh, shit! It’s The Jesus.

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