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	<description>Poise! Poise!</description>
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		<title>By: Curious be-bob</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-1107144</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious be-bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can haz update? on current status of this?</description>
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		<title>By: Shell Goddamnit</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-801745</link>
		<dc:creator>Shell Goddamnit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I suspect that you are an asymptote!

You are being hyperbolic; my ass is more clutch-sized.&lt;/i&gt;

Goddamnit, last week my &lt;strike&gt;boyfriend&lt;/strike&gt; creature said &quot;that&#039;s what you get for having an ass like a satchel.&quot; He&#039;s absolutely correct too: like one of those goddamn cylindrical duffel bags from LLBean circa 1979. Ah well, I have got used to saying &quot;an ass the size of New Jersey&quot; and now it&#039;s all fun &amp; fucking games.

Sorry to break in with personal angst, but I so resemble that remark.

Also about trolls: I used to frequent, of all things, news.admin.net-abuse.usenet, and give helpful advice to the constant stream of people asking that news.admins do something - or say something should be done - to deal with trolls. I saw some extreme stuff. We are not there yet. The scroll troll comes closest, but that could be dealt with separately if necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I suspect that you are an asymptote!</p>
<p>You are being hyperbolic; my ass is more clutch-sized.</i></p>
<p>Goddamnit, last week my <strike>boyfriend</strike> creature said &#8220;that&#8217;s what you get for having an ass like a satchel.&#8221; He&#8217;s absolutely correct too: like one of those goddamn cylindrical duffel bags from LLBean circa 1979. Ah well, I have got used to saying &#8220;an ass the size of New Jersey&#8221; and now it&#8217;s all fun &amp; fucking games.</p>
<p>Sorry to break in with personal angst, but I so resemble that remark.</p>
<p>Also about trolls: I used to frequent, of all things, news.admin.net-abuse.usenet, and give helpful advice to the constant stream of people asking that news.admins do something &#8211; or say something should be done &#8211; to deal with trolls. I saw some extreme stuff. We are not there yet. The scroll troll comes closest, but that could be dealt with separately if necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Shell Goddamnit</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-801714</link>
		<dc:creator>Shell Goddamnit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Uhh… that’s an underestimate, according to America’s answer to
Marie Antoinette.&lt;/i&gt;

that&#039;s &quot;misunderestimate.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Uhh… that’s an underestimate, according to America’s answer to<br />
Marie Antoinette.</i></p>
<p>that&#8217;s &#8220;misunderestimate.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-801588</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

February 7, 2009 at 4:48

Damnit, jim, you need to post more&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Grateful for the sentiment, but I can&#039;t pledge compliance to the request.

Funny - I have a blog, which to me is just a means for me to put a cool picture next to my blogspot comments. Almost nothing on it, &amp; what little there is is largely self-quotes from here ... &amp; I&#039;m anaphylactically allergic to blogwhoring.

Food. Sleep. Work. Fapping. Putting the hurts on my guitar.
I value them all dearly ... &amp; combining even the easiest (food) with posting is risky business. The others render posting either impractical or impossible.

Insight is easy - mind you, the process of &lt;i&gt;obtaining&lt;/i&gt; it is a royal bitch, but if you survive THAT, insight itself is like falling off a log.
Using it wisely isn&#039;t.

I&#039;m curious to see what the start of the corresponding line for &lt;b&gt;1929-1932&lt;/b&gt; would look like superimposed over the current swan-dive. Just so I can decide whether or not to invest in pencil-&amp;-tin-cup futures yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Big Bad Bald Bastard said,</p>
<p>February 7, 2009 at 4:48</p>
<p>Damnit, jim, you need to post more</p></blockquote>
<p>Grateful for the sentiment, but I can&#8217;t pledge compliance to the request.</p>
<p>Funny &#8211; I have a blog, which to me is just a means for me to put a cool picture next to my blogspot comments. Almost nothing on it, &amp; what little there is is largely self-quotes from here &#8230; &amp; I&#8217;m anaphylactically allergic to blogwhoring.</p>
<p>Food. Sleep. Work. Fapping. Putting the hurts on my guitar.<br />
I value them all dearly &#8230; &amp; combining even the easiest (food) with posting is risky business. The others render posting either impractical or impossible.</p>
<p>Insight is easy &#8211; mind you, the process of <i>obtaining</i> it is a royal bitch, but if you survive THAT, insight itself is like falling off a log.<br />
Using it wisely isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious to see what the start of the corresponding line for <b>1929-1932</b> would look like superimposed over the current swan-dive. Just so I can decide whether or not to invest in pencil-&amp;-tin-cup futures yet.</p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-801405</link>
		<dc:creator>actor212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so pleased that Troofie believes 3.5 million people losing their jobs is something to have fun with.

See, this is why we&#039;re liberals, Troof. We know when to shut up.

Now, fanboi, I need coffee. Black, no sugar, and hurry your ass about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so pleased that Troofie believes 3.5 million people losing their jobs is something to have fun with.</p>
<p>See, this is why we&#8217;re liberals, Troof. We know when to shut up.</p>
<p>Now, fanboi, I need coffee. Black, no sugar, and hurry your ass about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-800685</link>
		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 22:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>? and ? should be &#039;phi&#039; and &#039;pi&#039; respectively.

Speaking of rotating graphs through 90-deg., my favourite is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usd.edu/coglab/nas/fluorence/sld026.htm&quot; title=&quot;Evans&#039; greyness-threshold function -- serious stuff&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Monty Burns Function&lt;/A&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>? and ? should be &#8216;phi&#8217; and &#8216;pi&#8217; respectively.</p>
<p>Speaking of rotating graphs through 90-deg., my favourite is <a href="http://www.usd.edu/coglab/nas/fluorence/sld026.htm" title="Evans' greyness-threshold function -- serious stuff" rel="nofollow">the Monty Burns Function</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lesley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://business.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090206.wjobs_lagging07/BNStory/Business&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;problems comparing this recession to earlier recessions&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://business.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090206.wjobs_lagging07/BNStory/Business" rel="nofollow">problems comparing this recession to earlier recessions</a></p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-800651</link>
		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been ? so long, it seems like ? to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been ? so long, it seems like ? to me.</p>
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		<title>By: justme</title>
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		<dc:creator>justme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#

Righteous Bubba said,

February 7, 2009 at 2:14

More!

8 Reasons ‘24? Has Jumped the Shark
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good. Lord.

Just the thought that The Virgin (no more?) Ben thinks he has any scrip to call anybody else a &quot;pusillanimous little weasel&quot; is the funniest thing I&#039;ve seen all week.</description>
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<p>Righteous Bubba said,</p>
<p>February 7, 2009 at 2:14</p>
<p>More!</p>
<p>8 Reasons ‘24? Has Jumped the Shark
</p></blockquote>
<p>Good. Lord.</p>
<p>Just the thought that The Virgin (no more?) Ben thinks he has any scrip to call anybody else a &#8220;pusillanimous little weasel&#8221; is the funniest thing I&#8217;ve seen all week.</p>
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		<title>By: W. Kiernan</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-800639</link>
		<dc:creator>W. Kiernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The graph appears to be based on Bureau of Labor Statistics data from here:

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&amp;series_id=CES0000000001&amp;output_view=net_1mth

When I plot their series of non-farm employment (which extends back to 1939) it overlays perfectly on Pelosi&#039;s chart.  

Now, total employment has increased 4% since August 2003, and 24% since may 1991, so in terms of percentage loss of jobs, the 1.6 million jobs which disappeared between 6/90 and 5/91 are the equivalent of 2.0 million jobs disappearing today.

I added the 1982 recession to Pelosi&#039;s chart:

http://uncharted.org/frownland/pix/recession.jpg

When viewing job figures proportionally as a fraction of their most recent peak value, the 2008 curve (2.6% down in 13 months) very much resembles the 1982 curve (3.0% down in 17 months before beginning an upswing).  However, it&#039;s extremely important to realize that the method used in 1982 is not applicable to the current recession.  This is because the 1982 recession was actually an &lt;I&gt;engineered&lt;/I&gt; recession.  In 1981 the Federal Reserve deliberately ran the prime rate (&quot;Average majority prime rate charged by banks on short-term loans to business&quot;) to over 20%:

http://www.federalreserve.gov/Releases/H15/data/Daily/H15_PRIME_NA.txt

with the explicit intent of increasing unemployment in order to defeat inflation and protect thus bond holders.  Having achieved that goal (at the cost of three million American jobs) they then dialed the prime rate down by ten percent, which restarted the American economy.  This is not an option today; the current prime rate is 3.25%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The graph appears to be based on Bureau of Labor Statistics data from here:</p>
<p><a href="http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&#038;series_id=CES0000000001&#038;output_view=net_1mth" rel="nofollow">http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&#038;series_id=CES0000000001&#038;output_view=net_1mth</a></p>
<p>When I plot their series of non-farm employment (which extends back to 1939) it overlays perfectly on Pelosi&#8217;s chart.  </p>
<p>Now, total employment has increased 4% since August 2003, and 24% since may 1991, so in terms of percentage loss of jobs, the 1.6 million jobs which disappeared between 6/90 and 5/91 are the equivalent of 2.0 million jobs disappearing today.</p>
<p>I added the 1982 recession to Pelosi&#8217;s chart:</p>
<p><a href="http://uncharted.org/frownland/pix/recession.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://uncharted.org/frownland/pix/recession.jpg</a></p>
<p>When viewing job figures proportionally as a fraction of their most recent peak value, the 2008 curve (2.6% down in 13 months) very much resembles the 1982 curve (3.0% down in 17 months before beginning an upswing).  However, it&#8217;s extremely important to realize that the method used in 1982 is not applicable to the current recession.  This is because the 1982 recession was actually an <i>engineered</i> recession.  In 1981 the Federal Reserve deliberately ran the prime rate (&#8220;Average majority prime rate charged by banks on short-term loans to business&#8221;) to over 20%:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.federalreserve.gov/Releases/H15/data/Daily/H15_PRIME_NA.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.federalreserve.gov/Releases/H15/data/Daily/H15_PRIME_NA.txt</a></p>
<p>with the explicit intent of increasing unemployment in order to defeat inflation and protect thus bond holders.  Having achieved that goal (at the cost of three million American jobs) they then dialed the prime rate down by ten percent, which restarted the American economy.  This is not an option today; the current prime rate is 3.25%.</p>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-800638</link>
		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think maybe 4: shouldn&#039;t it be round?</description>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/16920.html#comment-800600</link>
		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a new value of 3.2? Is that high enough?</description>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 20:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Conversely, roughly 12% of the population which is defined as being able to work and in the working population have no job.&lt;/i&gt;

If the 88% is non-farm, wouldn&#039;t some of the 12% be farmers?  Not sure if I get their categorization, I guess.

&lt;i&gt;The pie is too low.&lt;/i&gt;

Put food on your family!
Knock down the tollbooth!
Vulcanize society!
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Conversely, roughly 12% of the population which is defined as being able to work and in the working population have no job.</i></p>
<p>If the 88% is non-farm, wouldn&#8217;t some of the 12% be farmers?  Not sure if I get their categorization, I guess.</p>
<p><i>The pie is too low.</i></p>
<p>Put food on your family!<br />
Knock down the tollbooth!<br />
Vulcanize society!<br />
Make the pie higher! Make the pie higher!</p>
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		<title>By: Another Kiwi (executive version)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Kiwi (executive version)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PeeJ gets the Secretary for Happy Days are Here Again job (formerly The Secretary for You Never Had it so Good).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PeeJ gets the Secretary for Happy Days are Here Again job (formerly The Secretary for You Never Had it so Good).</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The pie is too low.&lt;/i&gt;

It got the blues, so bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The pie is too low.</i></p>
<p>It got the blues, so bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the banner here:

http://www.21stcenturypaladin.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the banner here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.21stcenturypaladin.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.21stcenturypaladin.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: PeeJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeeJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, TAX CUTS!  It proves scienterrifically that we need more TAX CUTS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, TAX CUTS!  It proves scienterrifically that we need more TAX CUTS!</p>
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		<title>By: PeeJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeeJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, if you &#8634; it in the plane through &#960; radians, it looks like the beast with two backs.  With some green thing - I dunno what that is.  

Ooh! Oooh! No, wait!  &#8634; it in the plane through &#960; radians, then flip it along the x axis (&#8634; through z) it shows clearly that convergence at the year 2000 is guaranteed!  All we need to do is fire up the wayback machine.... 

Thanks for allowing me this opportunity to practice Wingnut logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if you &#8634; it in the plane through &pi; radians, it looks like the beast with two backs.  With some green thing &#8211; I dunno what that is.  </p>
<p>Ooh! Oooh! No, wait!  &#8634; it in the plane through &pi; radians, then flip it along the x axis (&#8634; through z) it shows clearly that convergence at the year 2000 is guaranteed!  All we need to do is fire up the wayback machine&#8230;. </p>
<p>Thanks for allowing me this opportunity to practice Wingnut logic.</p>
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		<title>By: ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©</title>
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		<dc:creator>ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®©</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Rusty Shackleford said,

February 7, 2009 at 18:47

If it’s fine, why is our charts diving?

The pie is too low.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To visit with the beautiful reef fishes, and commune with the coral.</description>
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Rusty Shackleford said,</p>
<p>February 7, 2009 at 18:47</p>
<p>If it’s fine, why is our charts diving?</p>
<p>The pie is too low.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>To visit with the beautiful reef fishes, and commune with the coral.</p>
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		<title>By: PeeJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PeeJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is excellent news.  FOR PALIN!!!!!</description>
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