Jan
27

ZOMG TEH SEXXX!11!1!!




Posted at 22:42 by Brad

Uh-oh. It looks like our virgin friends at Red State are upset because the stimulus package contains money to help states maintain their spending rates on public health programs. Most galling is the fact that the government is spending money aimed at stopping diseases that are spread by… TEH SEXXX!!!!!!

Earmarks for ‘Great Sex’

Posted by Brian Faughnan

The Obama-Reid-Pelosi debt bill has a lot of interesting spending items in it, and more are being discovered by the day. Take page 153 for example. That’s where you’ll find this gem. Out of $3 billion allocated for ‘prevention and wellness programs’ there’s an earmark specifically for combating STDs:

$335,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out domestic HIV/ AIDS, viral hepatitis, sexually-transmitted diseases, and tuberculosis prevention programs

There are good reasons to oppose this, of course.

O rly. I’d love to hear reasons why the government shouldn’t be spending money to control the spread of life-threatening diseases.

It doesn’t belong in a ’stimulus’ bill.

Sure it do. See, state governments are not allowed to run fiscal deficits. Ergo, whenever a recession hits, most states are forced to raise taxes or make significant budget cuts. This has the effect of further hurting the states’ economies, since government spending counts as part of GDP. So one of the best things any federal stimulus bill can do is to give extra funding to states until revenues start rising again.

This isn’t hard to understand. Which is why Red State doesn’t understand it.

It ought to make clear that abstinence is the only sure-fire way to prevent such transmission (at least in most cases).

And this is what it really comes down to: our Red Staters don’t want to help prevent the contraction of sexually transmitted diseases because people who have had sex simply don’t deserve our sympathy.

Why Obama and the Dems feel the need to cave to these clowns is beyond my understanding.

201 Comments »

  1. actor212 said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:45

    They hear stimulus, and it’s all about teh secks

  2. Doctorb said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:47

    Yes, abstinence is how to avoid getting tuberculosis. It’s difficult to abstain from breathing, but it’s totally worth it. Plus I have this cool abstinence rinnnng gahhhh

  3. Snowwy said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:48

    ‘Cuz, you know, no one they know has ever contracted any of those diseases. Ever! They’d know about it if it happened!

    Whaddayamean “sex negative culture”?

  4. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:49

    Where the fuck would STD prevention belong if NOT in a stimulus package? Oh, right – there’s that reality/conservatard barrier thing.

  5. g said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:50

    There are good reasons to oppose this, of course.

    I await with breathless anticipation the good reason to oppose tuberculosis prevention programs. Please, please, enlighten me.

  6. Nobody in Particular said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:50

    O/T (but maybe not really, since we’re talking about teh dirty, dirty secks…), K. Lo is claiming that the U.S. was “founded for Him — so we could praise Him, so we could do His will.”

  7. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:50

    Fighting anti-tuberculosis spending? WTF? Does this sfachine even know what tuberculosis is?

  8. g said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:50

    Is that a picture of RedFaced75?

  9. actor212 said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:51

    It ought to make clear that abstinence is the only sure-fire way to prevent such transmission (at least in most cases).

    The best way to prevent STDs is to prevent sex, it’s true.

    And the best way to prevent sex is to lecture people not to have it, cuz look how well it worked for smoking and drinking and drugs!

  10. zeppo said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:51

    I bet abstinance was topic numero uno on the minds of these people when they were 17 years old. They NEVER considered having sex outside of marriage, and only for the purpose of procreation.

    You know, if everyone just had sex with robots, none of these problems would occur.

  11. actor212 said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:51

    U.S. was “founded for Him — so we could praise Him, so we could do His will.”

    The US is Jesus’ bottom.

  12. Tom's Cousin Blader in Nigeria said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:52

    Classic SN! cutting and pasting. Reading further, you’d note that, in an offer of sacrifice, Red Staters are pledging to swear off buttsecks until happy days are here again.

  13. Snowwy said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:53

    We already know the deleterious effects of our government actively discouraging people from having sex. The Bush Administration is emblematic. Really, whichever way the RedStaters point, we simply must run as far and as fast as possible in the opposite direction.

  14. t4toby said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:54

    What?

    HTE BUTTOCKS?!?

  15. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:54

    Ha, I had to Gazoogle this, but check out the Red State gonorrhea rate.

    No wonder Ace thinks teh pusseh looks like a horror movie prop!

  16. t4toby said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:54

    That is the definiton of the Bush Doctrine.

    everything they say and do is 100% RONG!!!1!

  17. Snowwy said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:55

    And let me just say (because it’s one of my pet peeves) that what happened to Jocelyn Elders was a crime.

  18. That Girl said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:55

    And, then there was this:

    Pelosi’s Decision Bigoted, Racist, Elitist and Anti-Child says Christian Defense Coalition
    WASHINGTON, January 26 /Christian Newswire/

    It is unthinkable that the Speaker of House would try to stimulate the economy by seeking to reduce the number of children.

    Our political leaders should do all within their power to protect, support and encourage America’s children, not crush and destroy them.

    This policy would lay the foundation for racism and eugenics because it would seek to reduce the number of children to the nation’s poorest economic groups, which tend to be persons of color and other minorities.

    “I would challenge the Speaker to put those millions of dollars to foster job creation and help Americans keep their homes rather than crushing families and children…”

    h/t Digby (http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/01/common-ground-by-digby-this.html).

    Digby calls it a “hissy fit.” I call it mental illness.

  19. actor212 said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:56

    Ha, I had to Gazoogle this, but check out the Red State gonorrhea rate.

    #44 Utah: 17.8
    #45 North Dakota: 16.2
    #46 Vermont: 15.7
    #47 Montana: 13.4
    #48 New Hampshire: 9.8
    #49 Wyoming: 9.2
    #50 Idaho: 5.1

    So it’s true…you CAN’T get gonorrhea from sheep!

  20. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:57

    It ought to make clear that abstinence is the only sure-fire way to prevent such transmission (at least in most cases).

    Aside from the idiotic apposition of an an absolute (…the only sure fire…) with it’s negation (at least…) I agree with what he’s trying (and failing pathetically) to say.

    None the less, one can minimize the risk by avoiding sex with skanky Redspaters.

    This has been a public service announcement.

  21. Righteous Bubba said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:57

    I note that the RedStaters make no mention of transfat-borne diseases.

  22. g said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:57

    Wait, it’s “eugenics” to provide contraception?

    Isn’t it also “eugenics” to promote abstinence? Cuz no babies come from that either.

  23. g said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:58

    If done right, I mean.

  24. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:59

    argh! I caught the awful extraneous apostrophe disease from RedState! I only read it once, I swear!

  25. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    January 27, 2009 at 22:59

    we’re a nation founded for Him — so we could praise Him, so we could do His will

    Whoa! So K-Lo has jumped on the “Obama as Messiah” bandwagon?

  26. Spirula said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:01

    Well, he’s right about one thing. There is a link between abstinence and std’s

  27. dave said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:03

    “Why Obama and the Dems feel the need to cave to these clowns is beyond my understanding.” Wellll…yah…but you know they will. I don’t know…is it Boehner’s Bronzer of Power, or what?

  28. skippy said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:04

    it doesn’t belong in a ’stimulus’ bill.

    where else is it gonna go? in the ‘flaccid’ bill?

  29. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:05

    Thanks for reminding me, Spirule –

    Dan Savage should be announcing the winning definition of “saddleback” this week. Or maybe he did already, if only there was some way to find out! Anyway, my vote was for “anal sex among Christinane teens so as not to break their virginity pledge.”

    Abstinence indeed.

  30. tigrismus said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:05

    You know what doesn’t belong in a “stimulus” bill? Abstinence. Talk about unstimulating.

  31. M. Bouffant said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:08

    K-Lo at greater length:

    We’re a nation not just where you are free to believe or not to believe; we’re a nation founded for Him — so we could praise Him, so we could do His will. Warren began his prayer as a gentle reminder to those privileged with seats and every Joe sitting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial:

    “Almighty God — our Father. Everything we see, and everything we can’t see, exists because of you alone. It all comes from you. It all belongs to you. It all exists for your glory.”

    The authoritarian mind descends to the depths of submission & masochism.

    It’s no wonder they hate America, they hate themselves so much.

    Further:

    “Oh, the burdens,” he mocked. “Why did the financial collapse have to happen on my watch?” He dismissed the “Why me?” question. Bush dismissed that question as “self pity.” “It’s just — it’s pathetic, isn’t it?”

    Such a manly statement of responsibility and gratitude — and if you heard the whole thing, you know that he knew it was a great privilege to serve — should be an admonishment and a warning to a city of people who stand proud, but should also be willing to drop to their knees asking for forgiveness and, always, humility.

    How fitting then, that as his replacement was sworn in, the power and glory of the presidency was exposed as mere humanity.

    Some of us may have seen Bush giving that statement. “Manly” was the farthest thing from my mind.

    That woman is truly disturbed. I wonder if she sports one of those Opus Dei barbed wire bracelets, to distract her from her drying up eggs & the knowledge she’ll never drop 10 or 15 rug-rats for Jesus?

    (Which should result in her being condemned to the theological place of eternal damnation, if I know anything about the Roman Breeder religion.)

  32. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:10

    for you, maybe, tigrismus. For Christinane kids it’s apparently a veritable verbal Spanish Fly.

  33. Matt T. said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:11

    Earmarks for ‘Great Sex’

    I don’t understand what “great sex” has to do with anything. Using contraception does not automatically mean the follow sex will be great, nor does a less-than-satisfying round of aardvarking mean one is free by fiat from any sort of nasty disease. It’s like “great sex” is something only liberals like, and not Real Americans, sorta like the rap “music” thing.

    When a wingnut puts something in quotation marks, it’s almost guaranteed s/he won’t like it, nor will s/he fully understand it. S/he just knows liberals like it and, thus, it’s to be scored and hated. I guess.

  34. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:13

    “Almighty God — our Father. Everything we see, and everything we can’t see, exists because of you alone. It all comes from you. It all belongs to you. It all exists for your glory.”

    I guess that explains my crashing 401-K.

  35. M. Bouffant said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:14

    The Rabid Weasel Credo:

    “Sex is for making babies & it makes your body ugly afterward, so let’s not talk about it.”

  36. Batocchio said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:18

    Why am I not surprised that the RedStateStrikeForce opposes “great sex”?

    Sorry, I should have written, “sex.”

  37. Matt T. said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:19

    “Almighty God — our Father. Everything we see, and everything we can’t see, exists because of you alone. It all comes from you. It all belongs to you. It all exists for your glory.”

    Goddamn, that’s creepy. Maybe I’ve been reading too much H.P. Lovecraft and Lovecraft-inspired fiction (or, I guess, 20th century horror literature) lately, but that weirded me flat out.

  38. Cowalker said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:20

    Miz Lo:

    During his final press conference, President George W. Bush, reflecting on his time in office said: “The phrase ‘burdens of the office’ is overstated.”

    “Oh, the burdens,” he mocked. “Why did the financial collapse have to happen on my watch?” He dismissed the “Why me?” question. Bush dismissed that question as “self pity.” “It’s just — it’s pathetic, isn’t it?”

    Such a manly statement of responsibility and gratitude — and if you heard the whole thing, you know that he knew it was a great privilege to serve — should be an admonishment and a warning to a city of people who stand proud, but should also be willing to drop to their knees asking for forgiveness and, always, humility.

    Hmm. So she hopes Obama is thinking, “Oh, well, if my decisions are all wrong, and the soldiers I send into Canada are all killed before they can find the weapons of moderate destruction, and the stimulus package doesn’t help, and the economy goes down the drain, and the U.S. life expectancy dips lower than the Russian life expectancy because no one can afford health care and everyone is so hungry that they’re chewing lead-based paint off windowsills, I don’t need to be upset. I don’t need to ask ‘Why me?’ It’s got nothing to do with my orders to those soldiers and the failure of the stimulus package I created. It would be pathetically arrogant to pretend I’m that important. It’s not like I’m The Decider! I just need to walk away and enjoy a long, luxurious retirement in a warm glow of knowledge that I served my country.”

    Wow.

  39. The ghost of Midge Decter's libido said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:22

    The last time I had intimate relations I gave birth to a narwhal.
    Don’t do it kids!

  40. LittlePig said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:22

    I thought Warren was being terribly rude to pull that shit. There’s way too much ‘putting up with’ with these horses’ asses.

  41. Snowwy said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:22

    “We can’t have any, so YOU CAN’T EITHER!”
    -RedStaters

  42. LittlePig said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:24

    Shorter K-Load: “Why can’t all our Presidents be sociopaths?”

  43. actor212 said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:25

    Earmarks for ‘Great Sex’

    If you’re leaving earmarks, you’re doing it wrong.

  44. tigrismus said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:30

    “Almighty God — our Father. Everything we see, and everything we can’t see, exists because of you alone. It all comes from you. It all belongs to you. It all exists for your glory.”

    Wait, so he’s OK with the gheys?

  45. Righteous Bubba said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:35

    Wait, so he’s OK with the gheys?

    Since he spent a good while as one I’d wager he’s okay with adult babies too.

  46. Rusty Shackleford said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:35

    Over a billion dollars of taxpayer money spent by the federal government over the last decade for abstinence-only education, which has been shown to be ineffective, and THIS is what the wingnuts whine about?

  47. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:37

    Truth be told, I’m hoping Boner and McClonell position themselves in full opposition. I want them way out front and center on this. Becuase it took eight years for W and the rest to cripple the GOP but we need those two to finish it off. So I say go for it, boys.

  48. chocolatepie said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:40

    Sex. . .makes your body ugly afterward

    Ur doin it wrong!

  49. Rusty Shackleford said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:41

    I don’t think they’re using the term “earmark” correctly.

  50. tigrismus said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:41

    Rick Warren is gay? Or a big baby? Or a BIG GAY BABY? Sorry, RB, I’m especially easily confuzzled today.

  51. chocolatepie said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:42

    Rick Warren is gay? Or a big baby? Or a BIG GAY BABY?

    Hellooooo winning Office Halloween Party costume.

  52. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:45

    Well look what happens when you refuse to talk about condoms – it turns your son into teh ghey!

    I’m concerned that my son has a secret girlfriend?
    My 17 year old son has been very secretive with me lately, recently he has started to refuse to go to church with the family and tonight when I was going through his room I found a magazine with naked men in it. He obviously has a girlfriend that he is hiding from me that brought that magazine into my home and I am afraid they are having intercourse and I am greatly concerned that he is going to get her pregnant.

    What should I do about this?
    Additional Details

    He is not a homosexual, we have taught him from the bible and he has learned though our church that this is not in God’s plan. I will not teach him about condoms, that is unacceptable, we have always taught him about abstinence and that is what God and his future wife expects from him.

    I want to speak to our pastor about this but I am very afraid of what he would think we are teaching our son if he things we are allowing him to sneak a girl into his bedroom. That is clearly inappropriate and we are good parents, I am very afraid what he will think of us.

    I won’t read anything anyone writes saying that’s a fake question. Nope, won’t even read it.

  53. tigrismus said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:47

    I am greatly concerned that he is going to get her pregnant.

    “Well, then, do I have good news for you!”

  54. actor212 said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:47

    I won’t read anything anyone writes saying that’s a fake question. Nope, won’t even read it.

    PeeJ, this was trotted out yesterday, but it needs to be mentioned here.

  55. Me said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:48

    Re: what someone earlier said about Jocelyn Elders. Everything you need to know about our national sexual dysfunction was contained in her firing. An eminently sensible policy suggestion utterly reviled, and the person responsible for it terminated from public life with extreme prejudice.

  56. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:48

    Also, when did condominiums come into common usage? When I was a kid they were rubberariums.

  57. Righteous Bubba said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:49

    Rick Warren is gay? Or a big baby? Or a BIG GAY BABY? Sorry, RB, I’m especially easily confuzzled today.

    I went for the He and not the he. But obviously if he is for the He then he is necessarily for the adult babyhood God thought was necessary.

  58. PeeJ said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:49

    ZOMFG!! I remember reading that Onion article way back in 1998! It’s still just as funny, hysterical even.

  59. actor212 said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:50

    An eminently sensible policy suggestion utterly reviled, and the person responsible for it terminated from public life with extreme prejudice.

    Let go, so to speak.

  60. g said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:51

    Wait a minute. They think their kid is sneaking a girl into his bedroom to share porn with him, they’re afraid she’ll get pregnant, and then they re-assert that they’re not going to teach him about condoms?

    (not that their diagnosis is the first one I’d come to, but still….)

  61. actor212 said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:51

    When I was a kid they were rubberariums.

    When I was a kid, we had to use the whole sheep!

  62. Cowalker said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:53

    M. Bouffant:

    The authoritarian mind descends to the depths of submission & masochism.

    Heh heh. Religion offers one more boon, which I think is very attractive to many. It’s Teh Drama!

    Christianity puts humans on center stage under the brightest of spotlights. God made everything for them. Unfortunately he had already made an angel turned demon whose only aim in life is to thwart God. The demon tempts the humans. Oh, noes! Two humans hurt God by disobeying! What else could he do but give everyone diseases, and make them carnivorous, and introduce death? Including animals too. But he just couldn’t wash us humans out of his hair, because he lurrrrved us so much! So he had a magic child and relied on us torturing this child to death to appease him for the disobedience. Huh? Well, nevermind. The point is, he’s into relationships so much that if anyone rejects him, he righteously packs them off to a place of eternal torture and never again picks up when he sees their number on the caller id. The demon is endlessly devoted to effing up God’s relationships. God provided instructions that hold The Secret to having a good relationship with God, but only once, to a few people. Unfortunately they can be interpreted in a million ways, allowing all sorts of colorful rituals to be developed and resulting in fights to the death over the question of which ones God likes. He never says, because he enjoys being fought over.

    You can’t beat this soap opera narrative for allowing every single person, no matter how unappealing and untalented, to be the hero in a struggle of cosmic proprotions.

  63. Rusty Shackleford said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:53

    K-Lo asserts that John Roberts is a fallible human being, but without providing a source for the claim that he’s a human being.

  64. actor212 said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:54

    You can’t beat this soap opera narrative for allowing every single person, no matter how unappealing and untalented, to be the hero in a struggle of cosmic proprotions.

    That was pretty funny.

    And that’s coming from a minister.

  65. You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:58

    > You can’t beat this soap opera narrative for allowing every single person, no matter how unappealing and untalented, to be the hero in a struggle of cosmic proprotions.

    Don’t forget the point George Carlin made about religion and money….”God is all-powerful, [etc], but he has a problem with money. He needs MONEY!”

  66. J. A. Baker said,

    January 27, 2009 at 23:58

    Earmarks for ‘Great Sex’

    Move Zig!

  67. OTB said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:04

    “our Red Staters don’t want to help prevent the contraction of sexually transmitted diseases because people who have had sex simply don’t deserve our sympathy.”

    Au contraire, Brad–when was the last time a Red Stater got a STD from the tight heinie of a pre-pubescent? It’s all perspective–sweet, virginal, traumatized perspective…

  68. Cowalker said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:12

    You Can’t Put Lipstick On A Repig said:

    Don’t forget the point George Carlin made about religion and money….”God is all-powerful, [etc], but he has a problem with money. He needs MONEY!”

    A-Mans-Guide-to-Choosing-an-Engagement-Ring

    That’s true! How can you be sure someone is really into the relationship if they’re not prepared to invest heavily?

    . . . unless you’re an especially high earner, nobody will expect you to “prove your worth” by spending two months salary on an engagement ring. What is important is that you spend enough to show her just how much she means to you, based on your own personal budget.

    God is totally like a bridezilla.

  69. PeeJ said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:17

    Bravo (Brava?) Cowalker!

  70. Fozzetti said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:20

    At his meeting today with the uncooperative Repugs, President Obama pretty much said “My way or the highway”.

  71. actor212 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:21

    unless you’re an especially high earner, nobody will expect you to “prove your worth” by spending two months salary on an engagement ring. What is important is that you spend enough to show her just how much she means to you, based on your own personal budget.

    God’s cheaper. He only asks for ten percent. Or your soul. Whichever is cheaper.

  72. M. Bouffant said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:28

    Goddamn, that’s creepy.

    It sure is, & not just ’cause you’ve been reading weird crap. “Those people” seem to literally feel they are a pimple on gawd’s ass, or a colony of bacteria that must bow down before it’s host/creator. Very frightening, because it isn’t fiction.

  73. MzNicky said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:36

    M. Bouffant: It’s true. There’s some litany or other that’s recited from the Book of Common Prayer (been a long [long] time since I was in church) that goes something like “O Gracious God, we are but worms under your feet, unfit to eat the crumbs from your table, or to touch the hem or your garment” and so on and so forth, I got it wrong but that’s the gist. I used to always get in trouble for laughing out loud at that part.

  74. Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:38

    “O Gracious God, we are but worms under your feet, unfit to eat the crumbs from your table, or to touch the hem or your garment” and so on and so forth…

    Just tune in next time Harry Reid addresses the Senate Republicans. He uses pretty much the same formula.

  75. M. Bouffant said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:39

    “I am the earth beneath your rollers.”

  76. SomeNYGuy said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:41

    I think it’s sweet that KLo loves God so much after he’s been so very, very cruel to her.

  77. g said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:46

    I am the wind beneath your….What? Why are you looking at me like that?

  78. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:48

    Shorter Republican Party: Well, small government is good and all, but we can hardly in good conscience lower your taxes if you enjoy buttsex.

  79. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:49

    The bottom line is that this stimulus is not about the economy, its about building a self-funding re-election political machine for the Democrat Party. Any fair minded person can see that.

  80. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:51

    We’ve already lost tens of thousands of jobs from a “first look” at the new trillion dollar deficit.

    Next up: negotiating with terrorists and run away inflation.

  81. PeeJ said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:52

    Finally, RedSpate figured it out.

    Enjoy, SUKKAH!

  82. CPT Oregon Guy said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:52

    Your recycled talking points cannot help you now, dimwit.

  83. Sammy said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:55

    The bottom line is that this stimulus is not about the economy, its about building a self-funding re-election political machine for the Democrat Party. Any fair minded person can see that.

    Well, I suppose that’s fair enough. If people can see that the stimulus works, then the next few elections will be the Democrats’ to lose. That’s why people like Limbaugh are flat-out rooting for it to fail.

    I just wish you people would make the connection that hoping for failure in this context makes you, ipso facto, anti-American. Just sayin’.

  84. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:56

    Anybody who is a liberal is by definition anti-American.

    BTW, see Dear Leader’s interview where he apologizes for America and promises to bend over and kneel at the feet of the Muslim world? Pathetic.

  85. pat said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:56

    He’s baaaack! I seriously wonder what these loons think would be happening under a McCain/Palin (shudder) administration.

    Let’s not forget that the New Deal did NOT end the great depression, it took WW II to do that. Soooooo….. Connect the dots. The way out of the present morass is….. MOAR WAR.

  86. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:56

    The bottom line is that this stimulus is not about the economy, its about building a self-funding re-election political machine for the Democrat Party.

    Wingnut projection in action: halving the homeland security budget of New York to buy night-vision goggles for Utah park rangers is decisive small-government rugged-dickism; responding to the worst economic crisis since the Depression with an aid package supported in the broad strokes by both parties is machine politics.

    Also, obviously the Bush Administration took 1.2 trillion dollars accountability-free from the US public in order to fatten Obama’s war chest. They’re best pals, doncha know.

    Oh, those wacky Dhimmicrats. When will they ever learn?

  87. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:57

    “Well, I suppose that’s fair enough. If people can see that the stimulus works, then the next few elections will be the Democrats’ to lose.”

    It won’t work, but it will make people dependent on Democrat programs. Dear Leader wants Republicans to vote to give him cover because he knows it won’t end the recession. But he’s not gonna get it. Republicans will get the spine to vote against this en masse and the trillion dollar deficits and failure of the stimulus will be laid at YOUR FEET, libs!

  88. Duros62 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:57

    Ha, I had to Gazoogle this, but check out the Red State gonorrhea rate.

    Yes, but to be fair, California and New York lead the Chlamydia and Syphilis rates.

    No numbers for TB, though.

  89. WereBear said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:58

    J-Lo’s screed irresistibly reminded me of the closing hymn at the boy’s school in The Meaning of Life:

    CHAPLAIN and CONGREGATION: [singing]
    O Lord, please don’t burn us.
    Don’t grill or toast Your flock.
    Don’t put us on the barbecue
    Or simmer us in stock.
    Don’t braise or bake or boil us
    Or stir-fry us in a wok.
    Oh, please don’t lightly poach us
    Or baste us with hot fat.
    Don’t fricassee or roast us
    Or boil us in a vat,
    And please don’t stick Thy servants, Lord,
    In a Rotissomat.

  90. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:58

    BTW, see Dear Leader’s interview where he apologizes for America and promises to bend over and kneel at the feet of the Muslim world?

    It may surprise you to learn that some people have a problem with killing a million Iraqis to buy the Halliburton board of directors extra yachts. I know, disgustingly elitist and all to begrudge those real Americans their hard-earned money, but you know how we Judeo-Bolshevists are.

  91. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:59

    Obama has already cost the economy a good deal of the stock market and tens of thousands of jobs because businessmen are scared to death of his policies.

    Notice how the stock market began to bottom out when it looked like Obama was going to win.

  92. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 0:59

    Man, it’s rough to see Kristol trolling us while he’s waiting for that WaPo gig to start.

  93. Snowwy said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:00

    Yay, let’s all be anti-Americans TOGETHER!

  94. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:00

    Hey libs, check out this graph!

    http://petersmagnusson.com/2008/11/03/why-obama-won-its-the-economy-stupid/

  95. Duros62 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:02

    It was a glorious highlight of a day full of light and dark.

    Only when you were blocking the sun!

    Ba-dum ching!

  96. Snowwy said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:02

    LittlePig,
    ROFLMAO

  97. g said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:03

    Man, it’s rough to see Kristol trolling us while he’s waiting for that WaPo gig to start.

    Yeah, he sure has a lot of time on his hands.

  98. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:03

    It won’t work, but it will make people dependent on Democrat programs. Dear Leader wants Republicans to vote to give him cover because he knows it won’t end the recession. But he’s not gonna get it. Republicans will get the spine to vote against this en masse and the trillion dollar deficits and failure of the stimulus will be laid at YOUR FEET, libs!

    It may surprise you to learn that both houses are reasonably close to a supermajority and Article I does not, in fact, stipulate that the Republicans get whatever they like by pouting and being angwy. In layman’s terms, choke on it, you whiny cuntfucker, ‘cuz you don’t got a choice this time.

  99. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:04

    We will filibuster it using Republicans and blue dog Democrats.

  100. Another kiwi said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:04

    Why Obama and the Dems feel the need to cave to these clowns is beyond my understanding

    This “bipartisanship” will backfire. People voted for change.

  101. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:04

    BTW, check out the link in my screen name to see what Obama has cost the stock market already.

  102. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:05

    Notice how the stock market began to bottom out when it looked like Obama was going to win.

    You’ve got cause and effect confused: at the time the stock market first began crashing, McCain was leading in the polls for the first time since the primaries ended.

    And Obama brought in more money precisely because McCain fumbled around like an idiot, promising fiscal solutions to financial problems and trying to turn a stock market crash into big pissy theatrics. Any businessman who woulda voted for McCain is destined for bankruptcy – you can’t run a business on the will to power and race-baiting.

  103. JPrice Vincenz said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:05

    The gang’s all here. Just for future photoshop needs, here’s a link to a great pic of Brian, the RedState author.

    http://picasaweb.google.com/faustaw2/CPAC200802?authkey=Mn4_eZgWtbM#5165132609802718466

    If you click “View All” you can see pics from a CPAC two years ago–tons of face pics of the retard rightwingers, including my favorite (after Mary Carey): Matt “Dirty” Sanchez.

    Here’s the original page with all the pics:
    http://wfaustasblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-cpac-photos-meanwhile-at-bloggers.html

  104. g said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:06

    RedFaced has a peculiar notion that government really shouldn’t enact policies to improve life in the nation, because then it would mean that people would support their government.

    In his mind, government should just turn its back on people when in need, because then they’d….um, he doesn’t know. But see how nicely that worked out for Hoover?

  105. jim said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:06

    Methinks the RedState Stroke Force doth ride the waaaahmbulance too much.

    Don’t these sex-ed programs for randy teens always include the obvious caveat that abstinence is 100% effective at preventing STDs – at least when it’s adhered to (ahem) faithfully?

    But at least their track-record shows that they’re fully dedicated to saving America by completing every mission!

    Oh boy – talk about “Back To The Caves” – yep, cutting funding to programs to prevent tuberculosis really shows how much you LOVE America, dude. Ah yes, the good old days: 19th-century-level infant-mortality nostalgia FTW! Just remember to change your name to Typhoid Brian.

    Next RedState Scoop:
    “Indoor Plumbing – Hygiene Breakthrough or Muslimo-Homo-Satanic Conspiracy?”

  106. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:06

    “But see how nicely that worked out for Hoover?”

    You know who raised taxes during a depression? Hoover!

  107. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:08

    Wonder how many posts he has to make before Erick comps him a bag of Cheetos?

  108. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:11

    We will filibuster it using Republicans and blue dog Democrats.

    Nice theory, but joining a caucus of 41 to screw with a caucus of 59 is terrible Congressional behavior. It worked when the Senate was more or less evenly divided, but this time around Reid has a lot to offer Republican defectors, and the President is his silent partner instead of the Kentucky Jumping Toad’s.

    Lemme clue you in: you lost this election not in spite of what you’ve been railing about but because of it. The public is no longer scared by your shrieking about Muslims lurking under the bed or demand-side economics destroying America’s besieged multibillionaires. If that weren’t so, you’d have hung onto your tenacious position in both houses and we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Obama won big, the Democrats won big, and you fuckin’ lost. And now you’re going to suck on every last idiotic partisan measure you forced through during the tenure of your good liege Bush II of Manlye Characterystickes.

    Scream, honky, scream.

  109. M. Bouffant said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:11

    Nice picture of Juggs there. Note the one red robot eye.

  110. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:12

    “Scream, honky, scream.”

    Are all Democrats this racist?

  111. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:13

    “Lemme clue you in: you lost this election not in spite of what you’ve been railing about but because of it.”

    Not true. McCain ran as a moderate. America is still a center-right nation. More people identify themselevs as “conservative” than “liberal”.

  112. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:15

    “But see how nicely that worked out for Hoover?”

    You know who raised taxes during a depression? Hoover!

    Hoover’s primary response to the Depression was to solicit business’s help in rebuilding the economy, encouraging a national spirit of volunteerism and generally doing what had earned him a reputation as a fine humanitarian in the first World War. He was dealing with a depression the way the economic right normally dealt with a depression.

    His failure to fix the problem wasn’t what did him in in the eyes of history. (Buchanan did the same thing and nobody except historians curses his name these days.) Instead, what did him in – and turned him from a failed relic of a prior era to a disgusting charlatan more or less overnight – was insisting that recovery was around the corner, the real problem was people being too whiny, that the fundamentals were strong, and so on.

    You can bleat all you like about the Depression, but Hte Narrative aside, Hoover is far too neat and elegant a fit for the 2008 behavior of Bush and McCain for anyone to ignore. That’s why so many of your own fellow Republicans voted for the nigger.

  113. pat said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:17

    Am I wrong, or was it the Bush administration in the form of Hank Paulson who ran to Congress with his hair on fire and demanded hundreds of billions of dollars to throw at the banks, who then packed it away in their vaults without even a word of thanks.

    And am I wrong that pretty much the same thing happened in Iraq. Remember the billions of dollars loaded onto pallets and sent to Iraq, never to be heard from again?

    In other words, the Bush administration in its epic incompetence has literally thrown away a couple of trillion dollars and has NOTHING to show for it.

    But yeah, it will all be blamed on Obama.

    The funniest thing is the charge that this stimulus package is designed to bring in a permanent Democratic majority. Remember the Newt? EVERYTHING the Republicans have done since 1994 has been intended for the SOLE purpose of getting more Republicans elected, and it seems they have decided that that worked so well for them, they might as well continue the same old tactics.

  114. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:17

    More people identify themselevs as “conservative” than “liberal”.

    Which means precisely, dick.

    See Elections, U.S., 2008

  115. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:18

    Are all Democrats this racist?

    Yup. We just got done having a Kill Whitey summit with The One. Opened with a benediction by Louis Farrakhan and ended with, I don’t know, Mumia or someone.

    Not true. McCain ran as a moderate. America is still a center-right nation. More people identify themselevs as “conservative” than “liberal”.

    Again, nice theory, but not so. McCain was and is a paleoconservative with neoliberal leanings; he chose Palin – and more or less ceded his Presidential campaign to her – in order to take advantage of what his Rovian stage-managers believed was a public desire for more Bush-like neoconservative political theater.

    The campaign was a triumph of style over substance. I don’t think a substantive campaign would have won either, but you people ran an empty suit and you got fucking trounced. Maybe you ought to live up to that before you keep on trying to impress the public by your majestically coordinated talking-point goose-stepping.

  116. JPrice Vincenz said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:19

    Here’s one of the ugly little pig who took all the face pics at CPAC2008. Yuck:

    http://picasaweb.google.com/faustaw2/CPAC200802?authkey=Mn4_eZgWtbM#5165132687112129874

  117. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:20

    “but you people ran an empty suit”

    No, I believe your side ran Obama.

  118. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:21

    McCain lost because a fawning media pumped up your empty suit and people projected onto Obama’s pretty rhetoric whatever they wanted to hear.

  119. M. Bouffant said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:23

    Hers is Ace, conservative bugger of the yr., w/ an acceptance speech.

    No I haven’t watched it, nor should you, but if you wanted to, here’s your chance.

  120. M. Bouffant said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:24

    And you get to see Bobby Bluey introduce Ass.

  121. JPrice Vincenz said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:25

    Sgt Bat Guano, if that’s your real name.

    Hey, Petter Magnusson? Is that you, Redstater? Are you the puny man with the contractor’s goatee (popular down at the gloryhole peepshow, isn’t it, Nancy?) and the bald pate?

    Or are you linking to him because your internet company (quotes implied) can only afford a yahoo email address?

    Get back to work, bitch.

  122. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:26

    I’m linking to him to show what an effect Obama has already had on the economy. I think my point has been proved, and will take it out now.

  123. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:26

    BTW, see Dear Leader’s interview where he apologizes for America and promises to bend over and kneel at the feet of the Muslim world?

    Transcript, Red ‘bator? I seem to have missed that part.

  124. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:27

    Read this, Big Bad.

    http://libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com/2009/01/obama-stresses-his-own-strong-muslim.html

  125. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:28

    The site won’t let me link to one, Big Bad.

  126. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:28

    “but you people ran an empty suit”

    No, I believe your side ran Obama.

    Would you like to compare qualifications between ours and yours? I don’t think you’ll like how it turns out, but you’re welcome to try.

    McCain lost because a fawning media pumped up your empty suit and people projected onto Obama’s pretty rhetoric whatever they wanted to hear.

    Again, a nice theory, but not really. The media responded actively to both Obama and Palin; they more or less ignored Biden and McCain, largely because they are boring, incoherent old men primarily of interest as political lifers.

    That and McCain got enormously favorable coverage from 2000 until the moment his campaign, to cover Palin’s incompetent, radical ass, decided to wage war against the dreaded MSM. Overnight, Time and the NYT and other bodies that had offered him hagiographies from every column had to deal with him clamming up and treating them like they were terrorist pederasts.

    You really need to start ignoring the official Republican line and paying attention. Palin suffered because of media coverage – but that was largely because she’s probably the worst candidate for national office since Lloyd Bentsen. McCain was a media darling until his campaign threw him under the bus for her sake.

  127. M. Bouffant said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:29

    Nice picture of Fausta there. Almost linked to it myself. Where’d she get that dewlap? Full-length photos indicate she’s not big enough for one that size. Maybe she went on a fast or hunger strike to protest the earth being an oblate spheroid instead of flat, and no matter how much she flaps her gums she can’t get rid of it.

  128. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:31

    “Would you like to compare qualifications between ours and yours?”

    He had two books ghostwritten by Bill Ayers and got into Harvard by Affirmative Action. Ohh, impressive!

    Since he is such a great intellect, link to even one legal paper he wrote in law school. Or his LSAT scores. Or his SAT scores.

    Oh! That’s right! He never released them. I wonder WHY?

    Name one major accomplishment in the Senate. Name his executive experience before being President.

  129. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:32

    The MSM spent more time vetting Palin and Joe the Plumber than they did BHO.

  130. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:32

    think my point has been proved, and will take it out now.

    Was that the link showing how the Dow went from 14k to 9k in six months under W?

  131. Southern Beale said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:32

    And here I thought the wingnuts were all in love with all of those AIDs babies in Africa. They certainly did enough chest-thumping over how Bush did more to combat AIDs in Africa than any other president, which I guess means his father, Reagan and Clinton ‘cuz we didn’t know about AIDs before that.

    Anyhoo, good to know that fighting AIDs in America is bad and fighting AIDs in Africa is good. Not very logical but at least we have the ground rules.

  132. protected static said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:33

    Not true. McCain ran as a moderate. America is still a center-right nation. More people identify themselevs as “conservative” than “liberal”.

    Bzzt. Wrong answer.

    Boring troll is boring.

  133. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:34

    The MSM spent more time vetting Palin and Joe the Plumber than they did BHO.

    Well, sure. It’s infotainment these days, and Barack Obama is pretty plain. Middle of the road voting wise, President of the Harvard Law Review, smoking is his biggest sin. That won’t play nearly as well as a malaprop-a-minute Governor and a guy called Joe the Plumber who isn’t named Joe and doesn’t have a plumber’s license. Sheesh you’re media-naive.

  134. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:35

    “Middle of the road voting wise,

    No, he was the most liberal member of the Senate. More liberal than Socialist Bernie Sanders.

  135. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:36

    “smoking is his biggest sin.”

    LOL! Rezko? Wright? Ayers? Blago? His ties to black power groups? And you chose smoking?

    Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, moonbat.

  136. SomeNYGuy said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:38

    No, he was the most liberal member of the Senate.

    I thought that was Obama.

    I mean, Hillary.

    I mean, John Kerry.

    I mean, [insert wingnuts' moderate victim of the moment].

  137. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:39

    No, he was the most liberal member of the Senate. More liberal than Socialist Bernie Sanders.

    Oh please. Just like John Kerry was “most liberal” when he ran for President – even though Kerry is still in the Senate with the same voting record. That’s another case in which the word ‘liberal’ has no meaning beyond ‘Things Barack Obama voted for” (or “Things John Kerry voted for in 2004″). Like your saying “America is center-right” when opinion polling consistently show folks don’t support neo-con positions. People can say whatever they like. That doesn’t mean it has any bearing on reality.

  138. Djur said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:40

    Even if he was the most liberal member of the Senate (which he isn’t; the National Journal report is badly flawed), that’s like being the most conservative member of the Portland, Oregon city council. The US Senate is the most conservative deliberative body in the developed world. Its most liberal member would be a Tory in the UK. France’s Sarkozy is substantially to the left of any US Senator.

    And don’t give me that Socialist Bernie Sanders claptrap. He hasn’t been a Socialist for years, and he’s now an Independent who votes and talks like a liberalish Democrat.

  139. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:42

    “And don’t give me that Socialist Bernie Sanders claptrap”

    He calls himself a “Democratic Socialist”.

  140. Djur said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:43

    Rezko? Wright? Ayers? Blago? His ties to black power groups?

    Just because it makes Larry Johnson stain his sheets don’t make it true.

  141. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:44

    LOL! Rezko? Wright? Ayers? Blago? His ties to black power groups? And you chose smoking?

    Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, moonbat.

    Those are all things the MSM trotted out (which contradicts your earlier position that said the MSM didn’t bring this stuff out), and people realized was bogus. Lots of people could empathize with their preacher saying something looney once in a while – that’s Wright. Lots of people knew some questionable people back in the day – that’s Ayers. Lots of people know some smarmy friends – That’s Rezko. And on and on. People knew the line your side was pushing – that they were close – was horsefeathers.

  142. SomeNYGuy said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:44

    But you call him “daddy.”

  143. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:44

    I can’t WAIT for the HopeAndChange Impeachment. Just wait for Rezko or Blago to squeal when they’re with the feds!

  144. Bookmark This, Liberals said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:45

    Eat pie, RedStater75.

    And get a job, f’fucksake!

  145. Djur said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:45

    I could call myself “Smoove D, Horse-Cocked Master of Love” and it wouldn’t make it true. Bernie Sanders is a liberal, both in practical and ideological terms, and not even bordering on being a socialist.

  146. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:45

    If John McCain attended a white power anti-black Church you wouldn’t say it was just his preacher saying “looney things”.

    BHO attended a Black Supremacist Church for TWENTY YEARS. What does that say about him?

  147. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:46

    He calls himself a “Democratic Socialist”.

    So? Where do you live, Red State boy? I’ll wager your state takes in more Federal money than it pays in taxes – it doesn’t appear that you have any problem with Socialism.

  148. Lesley said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:46

    A resume for our times:.
    http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/chi/942873935.html

    (text not safe for work)

  149. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:48

    BHO attended a Black Supremacist Church for TWENTY YEARS. What does that say about him?

    So what? You attended a Madrassa for THREE HUNDRED AND SIXTY YEARS.

    See how easy that is?

    Black Supremacist Church – give me a break. How white bread can you get.

  150. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:50

    So I guess in Moonbattia a Church where the preacher says the government invented AIDS as a means to racial genocide, and screams “GODDAMN AMERICA!” is mainstream? ROFL!

  151. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:52

    LOL!

    Overused.

    Rezko?

    Never more than two degrees from him.

    Wright?

    Not the surreal caricature the media turned him into.

    Ayers?

    The connection between Obama and Ayers is particularly terrible as ‘dirt’ in that it was first raised and most vigorously pushed by the same extremist provocateur who infiltrated the Weathermen, taught them more or less everything they knew about bombs and organization, actively incited them, and basically played so pivotal a role in turning them from a bunch of gormless radicals into a semi-terrorist organization. The gentleman in question has been primarily responsible for pushing the idea of the Weathermen as typical of the SDS instead of an extreme example; he so severely tainted the case that none of the people involved could actually be tried.

    Blago?

    Illinois governors are pretty typically corrupt, regardless of party; Obama was a member of the anti-machine faction of the Dems and he and Blagojevich hated each other, with Blago being particularly angry that Obama didn’t want his planned auction to go through.

    His ties to black power groups?

    Unlike the other ‘issues’, which are a mixture of hype and open lies, this one is just disgusting: one of your unique little snowflakes suggested that Obama being around a gay black militant at the age of 10 meant he was in some kind of consensual queer relationship with him, and also a big giant homo.

    I mean, leave it to the party of Michelle Malkin to suggest the possibility of a child being molested is scandalous evidence for secret faggotry, but don’t air that vile shit here.

  152. jim said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:52

    Protip for RS75: even if you bottle it & put it on a shelf in a drugstore, bullshit STILL isn’t a vitamin, no matter how hard you believe it is.

    You’re defending a party that advocates bootheel-therapy for the poor, torture for SUSPECTED terrorists & moronic wastes of precious resources like a failed War On Drugs – not to mention cutting taxes for folks who already have more money than they know what to do with, regardless of whether the results are beneficial or catastrophic. Welcome to Failtown, population you.

    WAAAH, McCain ran as a moderate! WAAAAH, America is still a center-right nation! WAAAAAAAHHHH, more people identify as “conservative” than “liberal”! MOMMY! The big bad liberals are making Baby Ollie North cry!

    Troll tears – sweet as honey, or much sweeter than honey?

  153. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:54

    If John McCain attended a white power anti-black Church you wouldn’t say it was just his preacher saying “looney things”.

    Funny how that works out.

    (And for the record, Obama first came into contact with Wright as a labor organizer; he didn’t take the stage with him and join him in goddamn hosannas for oil.)

  154. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:54

    You guys will be the ones with the tears in 2012!

    Bookmark this, libs. 2012: Republican Landslie. It will happen, if impeachment doesn’t happen first.

  155. Bookmark This, Liberals said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:54

    I have it on good authority that Peter Tork was the most liberal member of the Monkees.

  156. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:55

    Book mark this too: We will win back Congress in 2010! Then I will be tasting YOUR TEARS!

  157. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:55

    So I guess in Moonbattia a Church where the preacher says the government invented AIDS as a means to racial genocide, and screams “GODDAMN AMERICA!” is mainstream? ROFL!

    Yet a majority of Americans decided that over the course of twenty years their preacher had said something equally nutty, and voted for Barack Obama for President. I mean come on, you say stupider stuff than that in one day, and you’re getting on a guy that in twenty years that’s the best they could get on him. Please.

  158. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:57

    Also, by around this time next year, Obama will have an approval rating in the low 30s and people will have full-blown Bush nostalgia.

  159. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:58

    Then I will be tasting YOUR TEARS!

    Oh please. I didn’t cry when Nixon was elected, or Reagan, or Poppy, or Idiot Son, I’m not about to start now.

  160. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:58

    “Oh please. I didn’t cry when Nixon was elected, or Reagan, or Poppy, or Idiot Son”

    How about Palin? Or Jeb Bush?

  161. protected static said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:01

    Troofie, fuck off. You’re still boring.

  162. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:01

    How about Palin? Or Jeb Bush?

    Whatever. I’ll land on my feet regardless, as will my progeny. I just hate to see poor people suffer.

  163. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:02

    Wow, hat’s off to the commenter who got the new troll to write “Bookmark THIS!”

    Jeb Bush? D00d, you really are delusional.

  164. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:04

    “Jeb Bush? D00d, you really are delusional.”

    I remember back in 1999 all the libs were saying Bush would never be President, blah blah blah…

    Then he kicked your ass! :)

  165. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:05

    Personally, I’d like to see Palin/Bush ’12!

  166. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:05

    Funny thing is, you know Red Stater is some poor little shitstain that never hit a real lick in his life. Scared to death of brown people, honestly afraid of a terrorist attack (yet, oddly, not of lightening and meteors), offended at the idea that his money helps somebody else, although of course in reality he receives more than he gets.

    Sad, sad little fartnozzle.

  167. Djur said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:06

    Yes, Bush kicked Gore’s ass by an earthshaking margin of negative 500,000 votes.

  168. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:07

    “#Djur said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:06

    Yes, Bush kicked Gore’s ass by an earthshaking margin of negative 500,000 votes.

    He won! The fact that he didn’t win the popular vote makes the liberal whining even sweeter, and shows how much they hate the Constitution.

  169. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:07

    I remember back in 1999 all the libs were saying Bush would never be President

    Horseshit. Support for Gore was pretty lukewarm.

    Then he kicked your ass! :)

    Oh please. W lost the popular vote and was awarded the position by the Supreme Court. That does not an ass-kicking make.

  170. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:07

    Then he kicked your ass! :)

    Uh, that was Rehnquist, et al.

  171. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:08

    And I remember in 2004, that Kerry was going to beat Bush one term like father like son…

    then he beat you again, clipping your wings when you thought you were about to fly! Really, Bush outsmarted you at every turn.

  172. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:10

    Really, Bush outsmarted you at every turn.

    Yep. Letting the World Trade Centers get blown up was a masterstroke for W.

  173. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:12

    He won! The fact that he didn’t win the popular vote makes the liberal whining even sweeter, and shows how much they hate the Constitution.

    The electoral college is the product of an amendment, but I’ll give you a mulligan for not assuming the Constitution is some kind of flightless waterfowl.

    As a matter of fact, Bush only ‘won’ Florida because the Supreme Court justified his roundly-despised brother’s electoral fraud there. But hey, let’s let bygones be bygones: I’m sure that if Gore had won Tennessee and the election by his relatives’ creative vote-counting, you would have been perfectly gracious to our Leader during 9/11. No accusing him of wagging the dog or anything.

    You know, nothing like what happened when Clinton made up al Qaeda to distract people from his affair with Vince Foster.

  174. Bookmark This, Liberals said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:12

    We secretly replaced the troll’s regular comments with delicious homemade pies. Let’s see if he notices.

  175. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:15

    then he beat you again, clipping your wings when you thought you were about to fly! Really, Bush outsmarted you at every turn.

    It must be awful comforting to look back on the halycon days of Bush defeating an uncharismatic opponent by a smaller margin than any sitting wartime President now that John “Feingold” McCain has been defeated by almost 200 electoral votes to a black first-termer with Hussein as a middle name.

  176. That Girl said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:15

    Man, that guy just claimed that Ayers ghostwrote Obama’s books. He might as well have announced that he’s recovering nicely from his lobotomy.

  177. Cletus von Clausewitz said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:17

    Dude, don’t you be minimizing my man Bernie’s credentizzles!!!

  178. RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:18

    “The electoral college is the product of an amendment”

    No, it isn’t. It was in the original Constitution.

  179. Rev. Wright said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:20

    “President now that John “Feingold” McCain has been defeated by almost 200 electoral votes to a black first-termer with Hussein as a middle name.”

    That can’t happen in AmeriKKKa! We’re racist!!!

  180. Djur said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:24

    In wingnut land, the phrases “white racism is a problem in America” and “every white person is a horrible racist who would never vote for a black person” are equivalent.

  181. LittlePig said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:26

    The current electoral college setup was defined in the 12th Amendment.

  182. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:44

    The current electoral college setup was defined in the 12th Amendment.

    This is an obvious lie: there are only two amendments, and the first one is No Fat Chicks.

    BOW NOW NOW BOW NOW NOW

  183. That Girl said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:44

    Is this guy trying to win some kind of bet? Some kind of, “how many batsh*t crazy, unsupported, debunked, wingnut foamer talking points can you post on one blog in one day?” kind of thing?

  184. jim said,

    January 28, 2009 at 2:48

    Oh lawd, is dat some deep-fried fail I smells?
    Mmm!

    You guys will be the ones with the tears in 2012!

    Bookmark this, libs. 2012: Republican Landslie.

    Who’s making the Freudian slips now, laughing boy?
    Yeah, cunning move there – because that whole “bookmark this, liberals” thing worked SO well for the last troll who used it.
    Enjoy your scabies.
    For those of you wanting to keep score at home, it’s now:

    Sadlynauts: 227
    RedState75: 1

    Yes, this could go EITHER WAY!

  185. Big Bad Bald Bastard said,

    January 28, 2009 at 3:02

    Oh lawd, is dat some deep-fried fail I smells? Mmm

    Damn librul nannystaters made damn sure it was fried in unsaturated fats.

  186. actor212 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 3:19

    Personally, I’d like to see Palin/Bush ‘12!

    She’d better keep that skanky hole under wraps.

  187. Brandi said,

    January 28, 2009 at 4:13

    Shorter RedStater, part 2: Rape me HARDER, you bastards! I live for the smell of blood, feces, and semen, mixed into a loveshake in my quivering rectum!

  188. Bina said,

    January 28, 2009 at 5:49

    There are good reasons to oppose this, of course.

    The main one being that the Medical-Industrial Complex doesn’t make nearly as much from prevention of STDs and TB as it does from treatment. Especially if the STD is incurable, like AIDS.

    But of course, you’ll never hear the BrainDeadStaters say THAT.

  189. Bina said,

    January 28, 2009 at 6:22

    Or, for that matter, the line: “I’m not gettin’ any, and I’ll be damned if I let anyone else get away with gettin’ any either!”

    At least, not out loud.

  190. actor212 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 16:51

    I live for the smell of blood, feces, and semen, mixed into a loveshake in my quivering rectum!

    Ah the smell of santorum in the morning…

  191. (: Tom :) said,

    January 28, 2009 at 17:27

    RedStater75 said, January 28, 2009 at 1:50

    So I guess in Moonbattia a Church where the preacher says the government invented AIDS as a means to racial genocide, and screams “GODDAMN AMERICA!” is mainstream? ROFL!

    It does look an awful lot like Greater Reich Wingnuttia is a land where facts are non-existent, Flush Limpballs is teh graytest jeenius EVAR111!1!1!eleven except for Commander Bunnypants, and anything you can spew that unjustly and dishonestly smears DhimmicRATS is magically 150% correct.

    Stay classy, Republican’ts!

  192. Arakasi said,

    January 28, 2009 at 19:43

    RedStater75 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 1:50

    So I guess in Moonbattia a Church where the preacher says the government invented AIDS as a means to racial genocide, and screams “GODDAMN AMERICA!” is mainstream? ROFL!

    Well, most churches that I know claim that there is a giant sky fairy that has ultimate power yet still gives a flying fuck about us. Now that is crazier than any AIDS conspiracy theory

  193. John D. said,

    January 28, 2009 at 20:37

    You appear to have a lot of free time on your hands, RedStutter. Any particular reason a super-duper Patriot such as yourself isn’t in Iraq right now?

    Don’t get me wrong: Admittedly, it’s funny that you’re so stupid, but the joke just isn’t as amusing the 100th time around. You can only watch an orangotang smear itself with its own shit for so long before the entertainment value wears off.

  194. alec said,

    January 28, 2009 at 21:32

    The main one being that the Medical-Industrial Complex doesn’t make nearly as much from prevention of STDs and TB as it does from treatment.

    The US pharmaceutical industry is gloriously abusive in that it has state sanction to force “market prices” down consumers’ throats. Even in an ideal market situation, we would want pharmaceutical producers to be quasi-public – they’d need to have specific charters set up to allow for overproduction geared towards cheapening and liberalizing the product, kind of like power and services before the supply-siders got to those.

    But even a market situation, in which if you can’t pay five digits a year for insulin you’re just not economically efficient enough, would be preferable to the current one – the US government typically does an enormous amount of research, funds studies and equipment and development and everything but readily-available raw materials out of taxpayer money, and then proceeds to award or auction off exclusivity agreements. So Republican intervention turns it from an abusive oligarchy to a murderous monopsony, and with drugs like AIDS with lots of rich victims the equilibrium prices for the various exclusive providers of needed drugs wind up being in the high tens of thousands. This is for medication that would bring in a profit at a hundredth or a thousandth that.

    Between that and state sponsorship of systematic insurance fraud in hospitals (long story short: the insurers break every procedure up into 10 separate billables, charge the patient whenever a member of the staff (always on salary – so they get to keep doctors and nurses on call for 60-80 hours and residents more or less expect to spend less than a full day at home) takes a fart, assess routine debridement and bandaging in hundreds of dollars and otherwise produce markup by factors of hundreds for procedures of little real importance – with the copay being a ridiculously inflated estimate of the most the consumer will tolerate paying for a given procedure and the remainder being passed on to the hospital system and gov’t, and non-insured clients being billed for the full insurance-dictated amount), basically everything about privatized medicine in America is vicious and evil.

    Of course, before ‘HMO’ became a household word, the social tendency was to project all of that onto the professionals and apparatus – exorbitant and uncaring doctors, unnecessary medication, etc. Which is a neat trick when you’ve got people pulling in millions a year in insurance and administration for having an MBA and the right connections.

    The Republican ideology consists largely of, upon learning your savings account has been looted, trying to cover up for the innocent embezzlers by pretending to have been robbed by a Mexican. (In this case, literally – one of those fantastic outside-the-box sci-fi guys, I believe Niven, pushed the idea of ‘rumors in Spanish that hospitals were stealing organs from illegals’ as a way of solving America’s medical crisis, which is all spics’ fault, we swear.) In the specific case of healthcare, you just cannot possibly believe how fucked-up it is – and how much of what people talk about in re. it being fucked up is irrelevant bullshit. Our choices, the Village sez, are to learn to love the HMOs, enslave the entire country to them, or drink silver until AIDS disappears down the road to serfdom.

    God, just having this shit on the table again is so wonderful. It’s like coming out of an asthma attack – we’ve just had to slog through their asinine bullshit, their constant recycled trash about hte Clenis and libtards and blar-har-har Hussein, and all the while the fucking country has been going to pot. It’s a non-repeatable bug for the peons like RS75, who desperately want to believe their beautiful masters are right about everything, and a feature for those beautiful masters, who will eventually decide they’ve stolen enough and buy one-way tickets to Dubai, leaving their idiot manchildren behind to contemplate going John Galt against momofascism.

  195. actor212 said,

    January 28, 2009 at 22:31

    Of course, before ‘HMO’ became a household word,

    You mean back when it truly lived up to being a “health maintenance” organization?

    I remember my first HMO. Early 80s. I went for a check up. I was seen by four doctors all in one building, and put through about two hours worth of tests. I paid twenty bucks, total, and told to come back in a month for a follow up regarding some irregularity noted in my heart beat (they found a small prolapse, nothing serious).

    Today, that same visit would extend to four separate offices, over two or three months, with follow ups for years beyond. I’d have been medicated for even the slightest hint of trouble, given no nutritional guidance, no exercise recommendations, nothing.

    And that’s assuming some doctor didn’t decide to up his billables by fudging a result or two.

  196. Doctorb said,

    January 29, 2009 at 1:14

    I would just like to point out that I am a Doctorb of Philosphy, not of Medicine.

  197. Righteous Bubba said,

    January 29, 2009 at 1:16

    You could have mentioned that prior to the prostate exam.

  198. mmeetoilenoir said,

    January 29, 2009 at 1:30

    Shorter RedFAIL:

    POOOOOOOOP! I fling da poop at youuuuuu!!!!!111!!!!

  199. tigrismus said,

    January 29, 2009 at 1:38

    RB, you really should have suspected something when he wanted to check your prostate for an earache.

  200. Righteous Bubba said,

    January 29, 2009 at 1:46

    Next time I see him I shall give him an earful.

  201. Zuzu's Petals said,

    January 29, 2009 at 6:59

    TB is a sexually-transmitted disease? Who gnu?

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