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	<description>Poise! Poise!</description>
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		<title>By: Hysterical Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-740150</link>
		<dc:creator>Hysterical Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Enough with the myths.
Not everyone on earth is crying out for freedom. There are plenty of people who are happy in their misery, believing that their suffering is part and parcel of a correct religious system. Those people direct their anger outward, targeting unbelievers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

One might say they &lt;i&gt;cling&lt;/i&gt; to their religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Enough with the myths.<br />
Not everyone on earth is crying out for freedom. There are plenty of people who are happy in their misery, believing that their suffering is part and parcel of a correct religious system. Those people direct their anger outward, targeting unbelievers.</p></blockquote>
<p>One might say they <i>cling</i> to their religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Mask Muslim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mask Muslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 12:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;They can have my pork chop when they pry it out of my greasy, dead hands!&lt;/i&gt;

As you wish, infidel!!!  NO ONE CAN STOP THE POWER OF ISLAMIC LUCHA LIBRE!!!!!  &lt;B&gt;ALLAHU ARMBAR!!!!!!!!&lt;/B&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They can have my pork chop when they pry it out of my greasy, dead hands!</i></p>
<p>As you wish, infidel!!!  NO ONE CAN STOP THE POWER OF ISLAMIC LUCHA LIBRE!!!!!  <b>ALLAHU ARMBAR!!!!!!!!</b></p>
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		<title>By: alec</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-740061</link>
		<dc:creator>alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because I want this shit cleared up but don&#039;t want to see drdick in a half-assed conservative male version of &lt;i&gt;Single White Female&lt;/i&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;That reminds me of NY Representative Charlie Rangel. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Charlie Rangel fought with distinction in Korea, you treasonous fucking slime.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I dearly recall the O’Reilly Factor episode where old Bill actually presented the breakdown of American combat troops by race and economic background.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Your cock-worship betrays you again, Pravda: even among his fellow old-media whores, Sir Two-Peabodies Bill O&#039;Reilly, KBE, is known for swinging for the fence when it comes to making shit up. On prior occasions, he had suggested:
 - &#039;the Lord helps those who help themselves&#039; was a quotation of Christ (it flies directly in the face of every book of Scripture, which generally involves nothing as much as proud, self-sufficient men being laid low by God);
- that 58% of single mothers were on welfare (14%);
-that celebrities are at a severe disadvantage in libel/slander cases (they aren&#039;t);
- that the Kinsey studies were basically similar to Mengele&#039;s medical torture in the Holocaust (no fucking comment);
- that Europe generally and Denmark especially has no laws against rape, child molestation, and incest, which are consequently rife there (untrue);
- and a grand Munchhausenian house of lies unequalled by any other public personality, including specific lies about where he was raised, his family&#039;s economic status, his schooling, his partisan affiliation, his journalistic experience and recognition; and his fundamental coherence, independence, and integrity on issues as diverse as the Iraq war (as of 2007, he always knew it was a bad idea), Saddam Hussein (not a credible threat under Clinton, a dire risk under Bush), and pretty much every fucking issue of consequence over the last twenty years.

Bill O&#039;Reilly is a liar and a fraud of the highest caliber. Citing him as a source illustrates you are either such a rube you would willingly offer your mental space to such a crass, self-obsessed charlatan, or that you are so completely amoral you&#039;d cite Jeffrey Dahmer to gain an up against the terrible nig-nogs.

Of course, it&#039;s quite possible - and I&#039;m inclined to believe - that you&#039;re both stupid and evil.

-

On the specific matter at issue here - in spite of an obscurantist &#039;study&#039; (metaanalysis and the shuffling about of services to arrive at amicable numbers, surveys smushed together from years of divergence, etc) by the Heritage Foundation, the army has only very recently begun disproportionately representing whites at the enlistee level (as of 2002, whites formed 58% (v. about 60% of the population) blacks 25% (12%), and Hispanics 10% (11%).

(I treat the Army here because they publish their numbers fairly heavily, but Air Force numbers are white-heavier and Navy numbers - if memory serves - less so. Also, for every branch of the Service women are, for both enlistees and NCOs, either majority or plurality black. And go ahead and try and peddle that &#039;darkies contribute nothing to our doughty forces&#039; line to the Marines. See how they react.)

While it might no doubt bring joy to your ugly little heart to learn that blacks now represent a lower relative proportion of the service than they have at any point in history, the Army considers it - along with the stunning reversal of twenty solid years of progress towards lowering the 75-80% domination of the officer corps by whites - a major crisis; the Army, while conservative, is extremely meritocratic and considers heavy representation of minorities and the poor a desirable outcome. (Our volunteer army&#039;s ability to offer college and career assistance is especially seductive to people for whom options in higher education are otherwise fairly lacking.)

A decade of concerted efforts to break down social development and educational assisstance programmes are primarily to blame - there are far fewer people coming into recruiting age now than ten years ago who could be helped with higher education by the Army and have any reason to see higher education as a viable path for their futures - and so is the extreme politicization of the Army brass and image over the Bush administration. (By contrast, black recruitment numbers never slumped like this under Reagan, and Caspar Weinberger - regarded as too much of a GOP wonk to be trusted readily with the nonpartisan Defense department - was less shrill than Gates, let alone Rumsfeld.)

I understand you&#039;ve got an abiding hate for them coloreds for keeping you out of Harvard and the Klan, but you&#039;re just embarassing yourself. If you&#039;re going to stumble in reeking of spoilt saltwater taffy and sputtering juicily, don&#039;t make the next thing you do citing a guy well-known for demanding fellatio from his adherents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because I want this shit cleared up but don&#8217;t want to see drdick in a half-assed conservative male version of <i>Single White Female</i>:</p>
<blockquote><p>That reminds me of NY Representative Charlie Rangel. </p></blockquote>
<p>Charlie Rangel fought with distinction in Korea, you treasonous fucking slime.</p>
<blockquote><p>I dearly recall the O’Reilly Factor episode where old Bill actually presented the breakdown of American combat troops by race and economic background.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your cock-worship betrays you again, Pravda: even among his fellow old-media whores, Sir Two-Peabodies Bill O&#8217;Reilly, KBE, is known for swinging for the fence when it comes to making shit up. On prior occasions, he had suggested:<br />
 &#8211; &#8216;the Lord helps those who help themselves&#8217; was a quotation of Christ (it flies directly in the face of every book of Scripture, which generally involves nothing as much as proud, self-sufficient men being laid low by God);<br />
- that 58% of single mothers were on welfare (14%);<br />
-that celebrities are at a severe disadvantage in libel/slander cases (they aren&#8217;t);<br />
- that the Kinsey studies were basically similar to Mengele&#8217;s medical torture in the Holocaust (no fucking comment);<br />
- that Europe generally and Denmark especially has no laws against rape, child molestation, and incest, which are consequently rife there (untrue);<br />
- and a grand Munchhausenian house of lies unequalled by any other public personality, including specific lies about where he was raised, his family&#8217;s economic status, his schooling, his partisan affiliation, his journalistic experience and recognition; and his fundamental coherence, independence, and integrity on issues as diverse as the Iraq war (as of 2007, he always knew it was a bad idea), Saddam Hussein (not a credible threat under Clinton, a dire risk under Bush), and pretty much every fucking issue of consequence over the last twenty years.</p>
<p>Bill O&#8217;Reilly is a liar and a fraud of the highest caliber. Citing him as a source illustrates you are either such a rube you would willingly offer your mental space to such a crass, self-obsessed charlatan, or that you are so completely amoral you&#8217;d cite Jeffrey Dahmer to gain an up against the terrible nig-nogs.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s quite possible &#8211; and I&#8217;m inclined to believe &#8211; that you&#8217;re both stupid and evil.</p>
<p>-</p>
<p>On the specific matter at issue here &#8211; in spite of an obscurantist &#8216;study&#8217; (metaanalysis and the shuffling about of services to arrive at amicable numbers, surveys smushed together from years of divergence, etc) by the Heritage Foundation, the army has only very recently begun disproportionately representing whites at the enlistee level (as of 2002, whites formed 58% (v. about 60% of the population) blacks 25% (12%), and Hispanics 10% (11%).</p>
<p>(I treat the Army here because they publish their numbers fairly heavily, but Air Force numbers are white-heavier and Navy numbers &#8211; if memory serves &#8211; less so. Also, for every branch of the Service women are, for both enlistees and NCOs, either majority or plurality black. And go ahead and try and peddle that &#8216;darkies contribute nothing to our doughty forces&#8217; line to the Marines. See how they react.)</p>
<p>While it might no doubt bring joy to your ugly little heart to learn that blacks now represent a lower relative proportion of the service than they have at any point in history, the Army considers it &#8211; along with the stunning reversal of twenty solid years of progress towards lowering the 75-80% domination of the officer corps by whites &#8211; a major crisis; the Army, while conservative, is extremely meritocratic and considers heavy representation of minorities and the poor a desirable outcome. (Our volunteer army&#8217;s ability to offer college and career assistance is especially seductive to people for whom options in higher education are otherwise fairly lacking.)</p>
<p>A decade of concerted efforts to break down social development and educational assisstance programmes are primarily to blame &#8211; there are far fewer people coming into recruiting age now than ten years ago who could be helped with higher education by the Army and have any reason to see higher education as a viable path for their futures &#8211; and so is the extreme politicization of the Army brass and image over the Bush administration. (By contrast, black recruitment numbers never slumped like this under Reagan, and Caspar Weinberger &#8211; regarded as too much of a GOP wonk to be trusted readily with the nonpartisan Defense department &#8211; was less shrill than Gates, let alone Rumsfeld.)</p>
<p>I understand you&#8217;ve got an abiding hate for them coloreds for keeping you out of Harvard and the Klan, but you&#8217;re just embarassing yourself. If you&#8217;re going to stumble in reeking of spoilt saltwater taffy and sputtering juicily, don&#8217;t make the next thing you do citing a guy well-known for demanding fellatio from his adherents.</p>
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		<title>By: stackozone</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-740043</link>
		<dc:creator>stackozone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know about you all, but I can&#039;t wait until Obama&#039;s inauguration, when we can finally replace the American flag with a new one:

&lt;a&gt;A white flag with a picture of a burning American flag on it.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about you all, but I can&#8217;t wait until Obama&#8217;s inauguration, when we can finally replace the American flag with a new one:</p>
<p><a>A white flag with a picture of a burning American flag on it.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tommykey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-740028</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommykey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, Private Benjamin&#039;s California State Bar profile still shows Goodwin Proctor as his place of employment, even though he no longer appears in Goodwin Proctor&#039;s directory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, Private Benjamin&#8217;s California State Bar profile still shows Goodwin Proctor as his place of employment, even though he no longer appears in Goodwin Proctor&#8217;s directory.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommykey</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-740027</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommykey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;* And of course, most Islamic terrorists are of middle class origin. This doesn’t stop liberals from claiming that poverty is the root cause of Islamic terrorism.&lt;/em&gt;

Er, maybe it is because some educated middle class people embrace extremist causes because they are outraged by things like poverty and oppression.

If you give Ben Shapiro pointy ears and a blue Star Trek uniform, I see an eerie resemblance to a young Spock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>* And of course, most Islamic terrorists are of middle class origin. This doesn’t stop liberals from claiming that poverty is the root cause of Islamic terrorism.</em></p>
<p>Er, maybe it is because some educated middle class people embrace extremist causes because they are outraged by things like poverty and oppression.</p>
<p>If you give Ben Shapiro pointy ears and a blue Star Trek uniform, I see an eerie resemblance to a young Spock.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Vosburg</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-740005</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Vosburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Shapiro&#039;s grumpiness:

Ben has been striving for years to bury his boyhood, in a sort of misguided belief that he&#039;ll be taken more seriously. While we await the inevitable mustache and beard, as soon as he&#039;s able to grow &#039;em, we&#039;ll have to endure the affectations he&#039;s come up with, namely:

The Look: I&#039;m reminded of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Horizon-Carpenters/dp/B00000G3WY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;1975 Carpenters album &quot;Horizon&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, with the formerly happy-faced Karen and Richard all grim-looking on the album cover. Clearly the Photog had told them: &quot;lose the shit-eating grins, please, they make you look like dopey teenagers.&quot;

The Cynicism: Again, Ben is shooting for &quot;wisdom&quot; by affecting a trait traditionally associated with old age, but only achieves &quot;boring old fart who craps on and on&quot; status. In this case I&#039;m reminded of a conversation between Louis Mazzini and Sibella in &quot;Kind Hearts and Coronets&quot; in which Sibella confesses that she finds her fiance Lionel to be &quot;the most boring man in London... England... No, Europe!.&quot;

Louis comments: &quot;I must admit he exhibits the most extraordinary capacity for middle age that I&#039;ve ever encountered in a young man of twenty-four.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Shapiro&#8217;s grumpiness:</p>
<p>Ben has been striving for years to bury his boyhood, in a sort of misguided belief that he&#8217;ll be taken more seriously. While we await the inevitable mustache and beard, as soon as he&#8217;s able to grow &#8216;em, we&#8217;ll have to endure the affectations he&#8217;s come up with, namely:</p>
<p>The Look: I&#8217;m reminded of the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Horizon-Carpenters/dp/B00000G3WY" rel="nofollow">1975 Carpenters album &#8220;Horizon&#8221;</a>, with the formerly happy-faced Karen and Richard all grim-looking on the album cover. Clearly the Photog had told them: &#8220;lose the shit-eating grins, please, they make you look like dopey teenagers.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Cynicism: Again, Ben is shooting for &#8220;wisdom&#8221; by affecting a trait traditionally associated with old age, but only achieves &#8220;boring old fart who craps on and on&#8221; status. In this case I&#8217;m reminded of a conversation between Louis Mazzini and Sibella in &#8220;Kind Hearts and Coronets&#8221; in which Sibella confesses that she finds her fiance Lionel to be &#8220;the most boring man in London&#8230; England&#8230; No, Europe!.&#8221;</p>
<p>Louis comments: &#8220;I must admit he exhibits the most extraordinary capacity for middle age that I&#8217;ve ever encountered in a young man of twenty-four.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: honus</title>
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		<dc:creator>honus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still having trouble figuring out how unions pushing for higher wages, better benefits, and more retirement pay is scandalous.  That Little Ben could even write this shows a serious disconnect with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still having trouble figuring out how unions pushing for higher wages, better benefits, and more retirement pay is scandalous.  That Little Ben could even write this shows a serious disconnect with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: honus</title>
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		<dc:creator>honus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth, when you preface your argument with &quot;I clearly recall the OReilly factor episode...&quot; you&#039;ve pre-emptively destroyed your credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth, when you preface your argument with &#8220;I clearly recall the OReilly factor episode&#8230;&#8221; you&#8217;ve pre-emptively destroyed your credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Simba B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simba B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I can’t possibly be the first person to look at that picture of Ben and immediately see this fine fellow.&lt;/i&gt;

I can&#039;t remember if it was TBogg, or Roy or these guys who made that comparison, but yes, it&#039;s been made.

I&#039;m zoned out on meds right now and too lazy to find the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I can’t possibly be the first person to look at that picture of Ben and immediately see this fine fellow.</i></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember if it was TBogg, or Roy or these guys who made that comparison, but yes, it&#8217;s been made.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m zoned out on meds right now and too lazy to find the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Mnemosyne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mnemosyne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t possibly be the first person to look at that picture of Ben and immediately see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3546518016/tt0077394&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this fine fellow&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m probably not, but I&#039;m too lazy to follow everyone else&#039;s links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t possibly be the first person to look at that picture of Ben and immediately see <a href="http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3546518016/tt0077394" rel="nofollow">this fine fellow</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m probably not, but I&#8217;m too lazy to follow everyone else&#8217;s links.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-739982</link>
		<dc:creator>Aussie Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 01:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when is Shapiro joining the army to eradicate these Moozlems?? hmm? When? Hmmm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when is Shapiro joining the army to eradicate these Moozlems?? hmm? When? Hmmm?</p>
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		<title>By: birdseatbugs</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-739953</link>
		<dc:creator>birdseatbugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;what the figgety fuck does “having a voice” MEAN for Young Master Benjamin, if it doesn’t have anything to do with letting workers agitate for better conditions?&lt;/i&gt;
They are allowed to sing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They should also be allowed to glue their posters -- they should be allowed to think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>what the figgety fuck does “having a voice” MEAN for Young Master Benjamin, if it doesn’t have anything to do with letting workers agitate for better conditions?</i><br />
They are allowed to sing.</p></blockquote>
<p>They should also be allowed to glue their posters &#8212; they should be allowed to think!</p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-739951</link>
		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The voice of our brothers’ blood cries out from the ground.&lt;/i&gt;
All snark aside, this line of rhetoric comes straight from the classic Blood Libel.
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Jews were suspected, and when they were led to the corpse, blood allegedly began to flow from the wounds[...]
According to the accusation, the Jews had suspended a child (whose body was found in the Lauter river) by the feet, and had opened every artery in its body in order to obtain all the blood. Again, supernatural claims were made: the child&#039;s wounds were said to have bled for five days afterward, despite its treatment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The voice of our brothers’ blood cries out from the ground.</i><br />
All snark aside, this line of rhetoric comes straight from the classic Blood Libel.</p>
<blockquote><p>The Jews were suspected, and when they were led to the corpse, blood allegedly began to flow from the wounds[...]<br />
According to the accusation, the Jews had suspended a child (whose body was found in the Lauter river) by the feet, and had opened every artery in its body in order to obtain all the blood. Again, supernatural claims were made: the child&#8217;s wounds were said to have bled for five days afterward, despite its treatment.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: MzNicky</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-739947</link>
		<dc:creator>MzNicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave in NYC: My offer to buy your Beatles program still stands. 

(I think you were the guy.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave in NYC: My offer to buy your Beatles program still stands. </p>
<p>(I think you were the guy.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tommmcatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommmcatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, troofie, have you seen what passes for middle class in &lt;i&gt;Afganistan or Iraq&lt;/i&gt; ?  Tell you what, go over there and live like that for a year and tell me how wealthy and secure you feel.  I&#039;ll even let you have an extra goat.

Moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, troofie, have you seen what passes for middle class in <i>Afganistan or Iraq</i> ?  Tell you what, go over there and live like that for a year and tell me how wealthy and secure you feel.  I&#8217;ll even let you have an extra goat.</p>
<p>Moron.</p>
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		<title>By: Simba B</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14827.html#comment-739939</link>
		<dc:creator>Simba B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/stmil.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Statistics on the Military Population&lt;/a&gt;.

The Population Reference Bureau has a report &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.prb.org/Source/ACF1396.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, which says you&#039;re wrong, but we already knew that.

I have links and facts, you have wankers that you saw on the teevee.

Honestly I don&#039;t know why I waste my time looking this shit up when it&#039;s just easier to assume you are lying, stupid, or both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/stmil.html" rel="nofollow">Statistics on the Military Population</a>.</p>
<p>The Population Reference Bureau has a report <a href="http://www.prb.org/Source/ACF1396.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>, which says you&#8217;re wrong, but we already knew that.</p>
<p>I have links and facts, you have wankers that you saw on the teevee.</p>
<p>Honestly I don&#8217;t know why I waste my time looking this shit up when it&#8217;s just easier to assume you are lying, stupid, or both.</p>
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		<title>By: David in NYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>David in NYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to go back upthread for a while, and I know we shouldn&#039;t feed the trolls, but this needs commenting on.  From Gary Ruppert at 15:37:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The fact is, the recession cannot be blamed on the wealthy. They are doing their part, creating wealth and opportunity. Since 2/3 of our economic activity is consumer spending, and consumers are not spending, whos fault? Look in a mirror liberals before you castigate those who deserve their rewards. Maybe you should do your part instead of waiting for a handout.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Talk about teh stoopid!

Look, &quot;Gary&quot;, you fucking pinhead, &quot;consumers&quot; are those who -- gasp! -- consume.  Do you think that this does NOT include &quot;the wealthy&quot;?  Do you think that when they buy their yachts and high-class hookers and Cristal champagne that they are not &quot;consuming&quot;?

And since &quot;the wealthy&quot; have most of the, uh, wealth in this country (the richest 1% own over 40% of this country&#039;s wealth), then most consumer spending is by &quot;the wealthy&quot;.  Presumably this is obvious even to someone as dense as yourself.

So, if it&#039;s consumer spending that&#039;s the culprit in this recession (arguable point, but let&#039;s stipulate to it), then quite obviously it is &quot;the wealthy&quot; who are NOT consuming &quot;enough&quot;.  Why aren&#039;t you blaming them?

I know, silly question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to go back upthread for a while, and I know we shouldn&#8217;t feed the trolls, but this needs commenting on.  From Gary Ruppert at 15:37:</p>
<blockquote><p>The fact is, the recession cannot be blamed on the wealthy. They are doing their part, creating wealth and opportunity. Since 2/3 of our economic activity is consumer spending, and consumers are not spending, whos fault? Look in a mirror liberals before you castigate those who deserve their rewards. Maybe you should do your part instead of waiting for a handout.</p></blockquote>
<p>Talk about teh stoopid!</p>
<p>Look, &#8220;Gary&#8221;, you fucking pinhead, &#8220;consumers&#8221; are those who &#8212; gasp! &#8212; consume.  Do you think that this does NOT include &#8220;the wealthy&#8221;?  Do you think that when they buy their yachts and high-class hookers and Cristal champagne that they are not &#8220;consuming&#8221;?</p>
<p>And since &#8220;the wealthy&#8221; have most of the, uh, wealth in this country (the richest 1% own over 40% of this country&#8217;s wealth), then most consumer spending is by &#8220;the wealthy&#8221;.  Presumably this is obvious even to someone as dense as yourself.</p>
<p>So, if it&#8217;s consumer spending that&#8217;s the culprit in this recession (arguable point, but let&#8217;s stipulate to it), then quite obviously it is &#8220;the wealthy&#8221; who are NOT consuming &#8220;enough&#8221;.  Why aren&#8217;t you blaming them?</p>
<p>I know, silly question.</p>
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		<title>By: Snarki, child of Loki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snarki, child of Loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Anybody would be Mr. Grumpy then.&lt;/i&gt;

As others have noted, Mr. Grumpy&#039;s mood seems to have followed his getting hitched.

My bet is that the the problem was on his wedding night, inexperience conservitard virgin that he was:

Ben: &quot;Okay, honey, here goes..&quot;
&quot;Oh...mmm.. did you just..&quot;
Ben: &quot;finish? No!&quot;
&quot;..start? Really? Oh well *deep sigh*&quot;

and it all went downhill from there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Anybody would be Mr. Grumpy then.</i></p>
<p>As others have noted, Mr. Grumpy&#8217;s mood seems to have followed his getting hitched.</p>
<p>My bet is that the the problem was on his wedding night, inexperience conservitard virgin that he was:</p>
<p>Ben: &#8220;Okay, honey, here goes..&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Oh&#8230;mmm.. did you just..&#8221;<br />
Ben: &#8220;finish? No!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;..start? Really? Oh well *deep sigh*&#8221;</p>
<p>and it all went downhill from there.</p>
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		<title>By: MzNicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>MzNicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When you were slaves, you sang like birds.&lt;/i&gt;

I get no kick from champagne...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When you were slaves, you sang like birds.</i></p>
<p>I get no kick from champagne&#8230;</p>
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