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		<title>By: Alf</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14792.html#comment-743597</link>
		<dc:creator>Alf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 07:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well easy peasey. Universal health care and a big part of the auto industry&#039;s problems are solved.

Git&#039;r done!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well easy peasey. Universal health care and a big part of the auto industry&#8217;s problems are solved.</p>
<p>Git&#8217;r done!</p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
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		<dc:creator>actor212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;12 MPG beasts that never leave the pavement…&lt;/i&gt;

Hey, you need that 400 horsepower to conquer that three degree incline in the mall parking lot...</description>
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<p>Hey, you need that 400 horsepower to conquer that three degree incline in the mall parking lot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
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		<dc:creator>actor212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Marketing, baby.&lt;/i&gt;

Which explains the initial reason: men with small dicks needing trucks.

However, once those behemoths got out on the roads, women (and other more secure men) needed to keep up in order not to risk death in a crash.

What kills me (figuratively) is how SUV drivers seem to believe the laws of physics do not apply to them, just because they drive a honking huge truck.

Ice? No problem. Just go faster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Marketing, baby.</i></p>
<p>Which explains the initial reason: men with small dicks needing trucks.</p>
<p>However, once those behemoths got out on the roads, women (and other more secure men) needed to keep up in order not to risk death in a crash.</p>
<p>What kills me (figuratively) is how SUV drivers seem to believe the laws of physics do not apply to them, just because they drive a honking huge truck.</p>
<p>Ice? No problem. Just go faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusty Shackleford (not that one)</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14792.html#comment-739353</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Shackleford (not that one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;12 MPG beasts that never leave the pavement...&lt;/i&gt;

Except during an emergency maneuver.  Then they&#039;d leave the pavement in a big upside-down hurry.</description>
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<p>Except during an emergency maneuver.  Then they&#8217;d leave the pavement in a big upside-down hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: watchdog</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14792.html#comment-739132</link>
		<dc:creator>watchdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote]Anthony said,

December 3, 2008 at 17:18 

http://www.rubbercat.net/artduck/03.html is the only conservative comic needed
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I think the strip that you linked to perfectly sums up the republican&#039;t mind.

All this talk of art, I started a pic last night that I call &quot;Lincoln emancipates Bush...from his teeth.&quot; If I finish it I might post it somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote]Anthony said,</p>
<p>December 3, 2008 at 17:18 </p>
<p><a href="http://www.rubbercat.net/artduck/03.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rubbercat.net/artduck/03.html</a> is the only conservative comic needed<br />
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I think the strip that you linked to perfectly sums up the republican&#8217;t mind.</p>
<p>All this talk of art, I started a pic last night that I call &#8220;Lincoln emancipates Bush&#8230;from his teeth.&#8221; If I finish it I might post it somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Robinson Carson the Platypus</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14792.html#comment-739127</link>
		<dc:creator>Robinson Carson the Platypus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War on Christmas Trees.</description>
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		<title>By: Mentis Fugit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mentis Fugit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Format error: dragstrips have exactly ONE Christmas tree.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Republican dragstrips don&#039;t, and who says the lights have to turn green simultaneously. Level playing fields are for the proles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Format error: dragstrips have exactly ONE Christmas tree.</p></blockquote>
<p>Republican dragstrips don&#8217;t, and who says the lights have to turn green simultaneously. Level playing fields are for the proles.</p>
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		<title>By: deadweasel</title>
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		<dc:creator>deadweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Format error: dragstrips have exactly ONE Christmas tree.</description>
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		<title>By: deadweasel</title>
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		<dc:creator>deadweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This cartoon only demonstrates how conservatives are out of touch with down-to-earth Real Americans; Ramirez can&#039;t even even be bothered to visit an actual dragstrip to count how many Christmas trees there are at the starting line (hint:  0).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This cartoon only demonstrates how conservatives are out of touch with down-to-earth Real Americans; Ramirez can&#8217;t even even be bothered to visit an actual dragstrip to count how many Christmas trees there are at the starting line (hint:  0).</p>
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		<title>By: Just Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So let me see if I get this straight. Union workers’ pay, health benefits, retirement benefits = bad. CEO’s pay, perks, golden parachutes, private jets, health benefits retirement benefits = good.

Right?&lt;/i&gt;

Exactly, g. Because those CEOs were responsible for overseeing the health of the entire company, while those silly old union workers merely made cars for people to buy. After all, if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys, right? And it&#039;s hard work making sure the company thrives, because the CEOs have their whole careers on the line: if the company goes belly-up, they have to commit ritual suicide in the boardroom.

OneMan: why yes. Yes I am. I&#039;m just yammering in sympathy, partly because we only recently got rid of John Sodding Buggery Howard, who lost no opportunity to wail about how awful unionists were, and how they were responsible for the downfall of western civilisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So let me see if I get this straight. Union workers’ pay, health benefits, retirement benefits = bad. CEO’s pay, perks, golden parachutes, private jets, health benefits retirement benefits = good.</p>
<p>Right?</i></p>
<p>Exactly, g. Because those CEOs were responsible for overseeing the health of the entire company, while those silly old union workers merely made cars for people to buy. After all, if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys, right? And it&#8217;s hard work making sure the company thrives, because the CEOs have their whole careers on the line: if the company goes belly-up, they have to commit ritual suicide in the boardroom.</p>
<p>OneMan: why yes. Yes I am. I&#8217;m just yammering in sympathy, partly because we only recently got rid of John Sodding Buggery Howard, who lost no opportunity to wail about how awful unionists were, and how they were responsible for the downfall of western civilisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Vagrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vagrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter Right Wing Fruitcakes:

The only thing wrong with American industry is that American workers expect paychecks and benefits.</description>
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<p>The only thing wrong with American industry is that American workers expect paychecks and benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14792.html#comment-739013</link>
		<dc:creator>Xecklothxayyquou Gilchrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I saw it over and over.&lt;/i&gt;

Me too - I was wondering if there&#039;s any discussion going on about it in those terms. All I keep hearing was that the automakers were helpless in the face of demand from The Market and had no choice but to pump out SUVs.

I&#039;m guessing there&#039;s no discussion about the role advertising played in the whole thing anywhere on TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I saw it over and over.</i></p>
<p>Me too &#8211; I was wondering if there&#8217;s any discussion going on about it in those terms. All I keep hearing was that the automakers were helpless in the face of demand from The Market and had no choice but to pump out SUVs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing there&#8217;s no discussion about the role advertising played in the whole thing anywhere on TV.</p>
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		<title>By: OneMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OneMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;how to explain the fact that people bought them?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Marketing, baby.

All those commercials showing some giant SUV crossing the river through the desert and up &amp; over the tundra...I get new chest hairs just thinking about it.  Big thick curly ones.

Combine the uber-testosterone level of sitting high with 4WD and the &quot;safety&quot; of a luxurious ride that sits high and is percieved as, well, safe and what do you get?  12 MPG beasts that never leave the pavement, mostly driven by soccer moms but that Dad isn&#039;t ashamed to drive either.  Beats a minivan.

I saw it over and over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;how to explain the fact that people bought them?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Marketing, baby.</p>
<p>All those commercials showing some giant SUV crossing the river through the desert and up &amp; over the tundra&#8230;I get new chest hairs just thinking about it.  Big thick curly ones.</p>
<p>Combine the uber-testosterone level of sitting high with 4WD and the &#8220;safety&#8221; of a luxurious ride that sits high and is percieved as, well, safe and what do you get?  12 MPG beasts that never leave the pavement, mostly driven by soccer moms but that Dad isn&#8217;t ashamed to drive either.  Beats a minivan.</p>
<p>I saw it over and over.</p>
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		<title>By: Sophist FCD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sophist FCD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In such a churchyard, a wanderer will one day espy a dark and austere headstone, and will thereupon ask her companion, “Who indeed was this, who did provoke the epitaph, ‘Beware The Howling Stupid Which Is Beyond Death?’”

And her companion will shudder and sing to her some version or another of the Ballad of Old John Henraker, at least one collected incidence of which features the line, “Rackin’ his hind in a trailer-home quarter, a dragster front-rocketing from’t,”...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nicely done. This is almost as creepy as that one Lovecraft short story where at the end the narrator finds out that the crazy artist&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shrieking harpy&lt;/a&gt; paintings were made with a live model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In such a churchyard, a wanderer will one day espy a dark and austere headstone, and will thereupon ask her companion, “Who indeed was this, who did provoke the epitaph, ‘Beware The Howling Stupid Which Is Beyond Death?’”</p>
<p>And her companion will shudder and sing to her some version or another of the Ballad of Old John Henraker, at least one collected incidence of which features the line, “Rackin’ his hind in a trailer-home quarter, a dragster front-rocketing from’t,”&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Nicely done. This is almost as creepy as that one Lovecraft short story where at the end the narrator finds out that the crazy artist&#8217;s <a href="http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/" rel="nofollow">shrieking harpy</a> paintings were made with a live model.</p>
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		<title>By: Xecky Gilchrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xecky Gilchrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well of course one of the reasons SUVs took off is that they are regulated in some ways as trucks and thus able to avoid CAFE standards, emissions and safety regs. So they could be flogged as luxury vehicles but could be built relatively cheaply and thus the profit per vehicle was like $10K.&lt;/i&gt;

That, plus the savings in avoiding any and all product R&amp;D, does explain the manufacturers&#039; enthusiasm for SUVs, but how to explain the fact that people bought them?

I&#039;ve seen some wingnuts and free-market fundies insist that SUV advertising had absolutely nothing to do with it, and a discussion I heard on the radio (NPR) also framed the whole thing as &quot;the market demanded SUVs, the automakers delivered them.&quot; Is anyone taking the pimping side of the SUV plague seriously at all?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Well of course one of the reasons SUVs took off is that they are regulated in some ways as trucks and thus able to avoid CAFE standards, emissions and safety regs. So they could be flogged as luxury vehicles but could be built relatively cheaply and thus the profit per vehicle was like $10K.</i></p>
<p>That, plus the savings in avoiding any and all product R&amp;D, does explain the manufacturers&#8217; enthusiasm for SUVs, but how to explain the fact that people bought them?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen some wingnuts and free-market fundies insist that SUV advertising had absolutely nothing to do with it, and a discussion I heard on the radio (NPR) also framed the whole thing as &#8220;the market demanded SUVs, the automakers delivered them.&#8221; Is anyone taking the pimping side of the SUV plague seriously at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, that sucks. I&#039;ll bet that quasar could write like a motherfucker.

/does not read enough quasar blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, that sucks. I&#8217;ll bet that quasar could write like a motherfucker.</p>
<p>/does not read enough quasar blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: RUGGED IN MONTANA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUGGED IN MONTANA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If anybody is interested in hearing about the real cause of car companies’ problems, let me know. I have plenty of missives to missivize about.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, it&#039;ll probably be nothing more than a bunch of Commie propaganda, but go ahead...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If anybody is interested in hearing about the real cause of car companies’ problems, let me know. I have plenty of missives to missivize about.</i></p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;ll probably be nothing more than a bunch of Commie propaganda, but go ahead&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
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		<dc:creator>actor212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But going after the Big Three on the grounds that if they’re too big to fail, they’re too big to exist, and that they’ve successfully monopolised new competition (that isn’t backed by a multibillion-dollar-plus transnational) out of the market, would be making really thick steaks out of the sacred elephant in the room…&lt;/i&gt;

Someone in Obama&#039;s camp...maybe it was someone in Congress, I can&#039;t find the reference...last week floated a trial balloon (you might have missed it, it was purposely done to coincide with the rush to TG) that in exchange for a handout, GM would be asked to undergo a divestiture not unlike some past break-ups, like AT&amp;T or Standard Oil.

It didn&#039;t float very high. On the other hand, it didn&#039;t get shot down, either. 

More here: http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/12/02/mean-street-why-gm-is-doomed/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But going after the Big Three on the grounds that if they’re too big to fail, they’re too big to exist, and that they’ve successfully monopolised new competition (that isn’t backed by a multibillion-dollar-plus transnational) out of the market, would be making really thick steaks out of the sacred elephant in the room…</i></p>
<p>Someone in Obama&#8217;s camp&#8230;maybe it was someone in Congress, I can&#8217;t find the reference&#8230;last week floated a trial balloon (you might have missed it, it was purposely done to coincide with the rush to TG) that in exchange for a handout, GM would be asked to undergo a divestiture not unlike some past break-ups, like AT&amp;T or Standard Oil.</p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t float very high. On the other hand, it didn&#8217;t get shot down, either. </p>
<p>More here: <a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/12/02/mean-street-why-gm-is-doomed/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2008/12/02/mean-street-why-gm-is-doomed/</a></p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
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		<dc:creator>actor212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well of course one of the reasons SUVs took off is that they are regulated in some ways as trucks and thus able to avoid CAFE standards, emissions and safety regs. &lt;/i&gt;

Point.

It was the only thing &quot;hybrid&quot; about them.</description>
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<p>Point.</p>
<p>It was the only thing &#8220;hybrid&#8221; about them.</p>
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		<title>By: Interrobang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Interrobang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also this small detail that the Big Three are in many ways antithetical to the very free market the right-wingers claim to idolise.  They&#039;ve got a lot of nerve blaming unions for the Big Three&#039;s inefficiencies, when there&#039;s a far more compelling case to be made that monopolistic tendencies, monopsonistic tendencies (gotta love that vertical integration!), serial antitrust violations and other racketeering, are actually responsible.

But going after the Big Three on the grounds that if they&#039;re too big to fail, they&#039;re too big to exist, and that they&#039;ve successfully monopolised new competition (that isn&#039;t backed by a multibillion-dollar-plus transnational) out of the market, would be making really thick steaks out of the sacred elephant in the room...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also this small detail that the Big Three are in many ways antithetical to the very free market the right-wingers claim to idolise.  They&#8217;ve got a lot of nerve blaming unions for the Big Three&#8217;s inefficiencies, when there&#8217;s a far more compelling case to be made that monopolistic tendencies, monopsonistic tendencies (gotta love that vertical integration!), serial antitrust violations and other racketeering, are actually responsible.</p>
<p>But going after the Big Three on the grounds that if they&#8217;re too big to fail, they&#8217;re too big to exist, and that they&#8217;ve successfully monopolised new competition (that isn&#8217;t backed by a multibillion-dollar-plus transnational) out of the market, would be making really thick steaks out of the sacred elephant in the room&#8230;</p>
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