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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Master Chief</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14231.html/comment-page-2#comment-723713</link>
		<dc:creator>Master Chief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;truth and reconciliation commission&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;m in.  Cortana, which way to the nearest munitions locker?  I&#039;m low on frag grenades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>truth and reconciliation commission</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m in.  Cortana, which way to the nearest munitions locker?  I&#8217;m low on frag grenades.</p>
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		<title>By: Nenya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nenya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What is ‘justice’ to a million dead?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nothing we can ever do can ever bring them back. Nothing. 

Maybe we can save a few lives from the next would-be Bush, if we do it right. 

Not that I know how. Investigating would be a start. Names, dates, deeds brought into the light. 

But we can&#039;t fix or undo what was done. That&#039;s why I&#039;m so searingly angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What is ‘justice’ to a million dead?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nothing we can ever do can ever bring them back. Nothing. </p>
<p>Maybe we can save a few lives from the next would-be Bush, if we do it right. </p>
<p>Not that I know how. Investigating would be a start. Names, dates, deeds brought into the light. </p>
<p>But we can&#8217;t fix or undo what was done. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m so searingly angry.</p>
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		<title>By: christian h.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with that. But without further details, I have to believe this commission is going to have one job only: to not get names out there, with the possible exception of a minor fall guy or two. To cover up what exactly happened. To provide &quot;closure&quot; so the system can expunge the record and start the same shit all over again. Given historical experience, I don&#039;t see how one can expect anything different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with that. But without further details, I have to believe this commission is going to have one job only: to not get names out there, with the possible exception of a minor fall guy or two. To cover up what exactly happened. To provide &#8220;closure&#8221; so the system can expunge the record and start the same shit all over again. Given historical experience, I don&#8217;t see how one can expect anything different.</p>
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		<title>By: The Goddamn Batman Is Unforgiving</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Goddamn Batman Is Unforgiving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no way that we&#039;d be able to send them to jail, anyway; Bush&#039;s blanket pardon will guarantee that. Let&#039;s get names out there, and make sure that people don&#039;t forget them any more than they forgot Mitchell and Haldeman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no way that we&#8217;d be able to send them to jail, anyway; Bush&#8217;s blanket pardon will guarantee that. Let&#8217;s get names out there, and make sure that people don&#8217;t forget them any more than they forgot Mitchell and Haldeman.</p>
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		<title>By: christian h.</title>
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		<dc:creator>christian h.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but did we read the same article? A fact-finding commission, outside congress, with no subpoena power, probably consisting of a bunch of DC insiders implicated in whatever they are supposed to investigate... that&#039;s a good thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but did we read the same article? A fact-finding commission, outside congress, with no subpoena power, probably consisting of a bunch of DC insiders implicated in whatever they are supposed to investigate&#8230; that&#8217;s a good thing?</p>
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		<title>By: islmfaoscist</title>
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		<dc:creator>islmfaoscist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...would examine a broad scope of activities, including detention, torture and extraordinary rendition...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Awesomeness!

Conveniently, a somewhat obscure Congressman named Dennis K. has &lt;a href=&quot;http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:M6_ZBhIJklcJ:blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/files/kucinich_impeach.pdf+kucinich+bush+impeachment+congressional+record&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=2&amp;gl=us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;thoughtfully prepackaged&lt;/a&gt; some 35 potentially fertile areas for investigation right in the Congressional Record. Now isn&#039;t that handy?

Might I also be the first to note that it would be irresponsible and possibly highly damaging to our national security were the commission to overlook the potential need to use highly advanced methods of enhanced interrogation such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.visualstatistics.net/East-West/Witch%20Trials/Witch%20Trials.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bruloirs and intestinal cranks&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;would examine a broad scope of activities, including detention, torture and extraordinary rendition&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Awesomeness!</p>
<p>Conveniently, a somewhat obscure Congressman named Dennis K. has <a href="http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:M6_ZBhIJklcJ:blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/files/kucinich_impeach.pdf+kucinich+bush+impeachment+congressional+record&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=2&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">thoughtfully prepackaged</a> some 35 potentially fertile areas for investigation right in the Congressional Record. Now isn&#8217;t that handy?</p>
<p>Might I also be the first to note that it would be irresponsible and possibly highly damaging to our national security were the commission to overlook the potential need to use highly advanced methods of enhanced interrogation such as <a href="http://www.visualstatistics.net/East-West/Witch%20Trials/Witch%20Trials.htm" rel="nofollow">bruloirs and intestinal cranks</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Orange Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orange Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Justice is what we need. Vengeance and retribution are luxuries we cannot afford.&lt;/i&gt;

So, the Nazi war crimes trials and executions were un-fucking neccessary?  These assholes have killed over a million INNOCENT Iraqis with their bullshite, have kidnapped and tortured thousands (and made torture a national policy), ripped the Constitution to confetti, claimed they were above the law (and established a fantasy branch of government), secretly given away trillions of U.S. treasure, started up a private army of Christian-Rightists funded by you and me, and a further list longer than an anaconda.  

This shit can&#039;t be allowed to slide.  A Bush was behind the coup attempt to overthrow FDR and establish a fascist government, and the knuckleheads back then simple let him walk away.  Look what we ended up with!  Yeah, so I&#039;m being over the top about boiling people to make my point, the obvious REAL point is that there needs to be a series of criminal prosecutions unmatched in our history, with severe punishments (yeah, I include the death penalty).  This isn&#039;t a Left-Right spitefulness on my part, it&#039;s a desire to see real justice done.......if we don&#039;t do this, we&#039;ll end up with the same mutherfuckers doing the same mutherfucking things, all over again.  THAT&#039;s what we can&#039;t afford, chum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Justice is what we need. Vengeance and retribution are luxuries we cannot afford.</i></p>
<p>So, the Nazi war crimes trials and executions were un-fucking neccessary?  These assholes have killed over a million INNOCENT Iraqis with their bullshite, have kidnapped and tortured thousands (and made torture a national policy), ripped the Constitution to confetti, claimed they were above the law (and established a fantasy branch of government), secretly given away trillions of U.S. treasure, started up a private army of Christian-Rightists funded by you and me, and a further list longer than an anaconda.  </p>
<p>This shit can&#8217;t be allowed to slide.  A Bush was behind the coup attempt to overthrow FDR and establish a fascist government, and the knuckleheads back then simple let him walk away.  Look what we ended up with!  Yeah, so I&#8217;m being over the top about boiling people to make my point, the obvious REAL point is that there needs to be a series of criminal prosecutions unmatched in our history, with severe punishments (yeah, I include the death penalty).  This isn&#8217;t a Left-Right spitefulness on my part, it&#8217;s a desire to see real justice done&#8230;&#8230;.if we don&#8217;t do this, we&#8217;ll end up with the same mutherfuckers doing the same mutherfucking things, all over again.  THAT&#8217;s what we can&#8217;t afford, chum.</p>
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		<title>By: kenga</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Justice is what we need. Vengeance and retribution are luxuries we cannot afford.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No doubt.
Where&#039;s the limit, though. The floor, I should say, not the ceiling.
I mean, what is a just punishment for helping promote an illegal war, with its various abrogations of the Constitution, torture, and hundreds of thousands of brutally murdered children?
5-10 in Medium Security?
Uh, that&#039;s not justice.

Ya know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Justice is what we need. Vengeance and retribution are luxuries we cannot afford.</p></blockquote>
<p>No doubt.<br />
Where&#8217;s the limit, though. The floor, I should say, not the ceiling.<br />
I mean, what is a just punishment for helping promote an illegal war, with its various abrogations of the Constitution, torture, and hundreds of thousands of brutally murdered children?<br />
5-10 in Medium Security?<br />
Uh, that&#8217;s not justice.</p>
<p>Ya know?</p>
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		<title>By: kenga</title>
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		<dc:creator>kenga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve already heard the idea being floated that as regards BushCrime, Inc., the first ones who come forward with actionable information will get off on a plea-bargain basis&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s another possible tactic. Charge some of the low-levels with serious crimes, make &#039;em lawyer up, post large bail, etc. You know, sweat &#039;em a llittle, some bad cop type stuff Then Pres. Obama(aka good cop) issues a pardon, and has them delivered to Congressional hearings - where teh Fifth will no longer be recourse to keep their mouths shut. Then, it&#039;s talk, truthfully, or face contempt and/or a perjury trial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve already heard the idea being floated that as regards BushCrime, Inc., the first ones who come forward with actionable information will get off on a plea-bargain basis</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s another possible tactic. Charge some of the low-levels with serious crimes, make &#8216;em lawyer up, post large bail, etc. You know, sweat &#8216;em a llittle, some bad cop type stuff Then Pres. Obama(aka good cop) issues a pardon, and has them delivered to Congressional hearings &#8211; where teh Fifth will no longer be recourse to keep their mouths shut. Then, it&#8217;s talk, truthfully, or face contempt and/or a perjury trial.</p>
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		<title>By: owlbear1</title>
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		<dc:creator>owlbear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is &#039;justice&#039; to a million dead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is &#8216;justice&#8217; to a million dead?</p>
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		<title>By: word hussein yeti</title>
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		<dc:creator>word hussein yeti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;  If we don’t nail these fuckers, they’ll be back in 2012 looking to be re-installed for another round of despotism.

Amen! We don’t want a repeat of Clinton’s mollycoddling of the Iran-Contra criminals. A lot of those retreads ended up in the B00sh administration. Time to clean house once and for all, and become the society we always made ourselves out to be.&lt;/i&gt; 

Brad, BBB, Orange Tom, et al.

No. No. No. 

See Mikey&#039;s comment on a thread a coupla few days ago, with my response. 

We do not do things like that. We cannot.  This is not the way forward. This is the road to an interminable scorched-earth war of faction vs. faction while the U.S. burns to the foundations. 

We cannot afford this right now. No matter how satisfying it may be to contemplate Rush Limbaugh up to his waist in a rice paddy, next to Fat Bastard from Exxon &amp; the entire Wall St. Journal editorial board, covered in leeches &amp; learning &quot;the value of peasant labor&quot; ... 

Justice is what we need. Vengeance and retribution are luxuries we cannot afford. 

The Right governed out of pique, spite and childish need to strike back at their perceived tormenters.  Look where that got us. 

We are either better than that, better than them, or we might as well all head on over to FreeRepublic and LGF and start rapping with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>  If we don’t nail these fuckers, they’ll be back in 2012 looking to be re-installed for another round of despotism.</p>
<p>Amen! We don’t want a repeat of Clinton’s mollycoddling of the Iran-Contra criminals. A lot of those retreads ended up in the B00sh administration. Time to clean house once and for all, and become the society we always made ourselves out to be.</i> </p>
<p>Brad, BBB, Orange Tom, et al.</p>
<p>No. No. No. </p>
<p>See Mikey&#8217;s comment on a thread a coupla few days ago, with my response. </p>
<p>We do not do things like that. We cannot.  This is not the way forward. This is the road to an interminable scorched-earth war of faction vs. faction while the U.S. burns to the foundations. </p>
<p>We cannot afford this right now. No matter how satisfying it may be to contemplate Rush Limbaugh up to his waist in a rice paddy, next to Fat Bastard from Exxon &amp; the entire Wall St. Journal editorial board, covered in leeches &amp; learning &#8220;the value of peasant labor&#8221; &#8230; </p>
<p>Justice is what we need. Vengeance and retribution are luxuries we cannot afford. </p>
<p>The Right governed out of pique, spite and childish need to strike back at their perceived tormenters.  Look where that got us. </p>
<p>We are either better than that, better than them, or we might as well all head on over to FreeRepublic and LGF and start rapping with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bad Bald Bastard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Bad Bald Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt; If we don’t nail these fuckers, they’ll be back in 2012 looking to be re-installed for another round of despotism. &lt;/I&gt;

Amen!  We don&#039;t want a repeat of Clinton&#039;s mollycoddling of the Iran-Contra criminals.  A lot of those retreads ended up in the B00sh administration.  Time to clean house once and for all, and become the society we always made ourselves out to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> If we don’t nail these fuckers, they’ll be back in 2012 looking to be re-installed for another round of despotism. </i></p>
<p>Amen!  We don&#8217;t want a repeat of Clinton&#8217;s mollycoddling of the Iran-Contra criminals.  A lot of those retreads ended up in the B00sh administration.  Time to clean house once and for all, and become the society we always made ourselves out to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros Hussein 62</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14231.html/comment-page-1#comment-723176</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros Hussein 62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Obama has plans for “Probing Bush Torture”…. you mean, like, what a gynecologist does?&lt;/i&gt;

Practicing their love?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama has plans for “Probing Bush Torture”…. you mean, like, what a gynecologist does?</i></p>
<p>Practicing their love?</p>
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		<title>By: Cold Speculum</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14231.html/comment-page-1#comment-723152</link>
		<dc:creator>Cold Speculum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Obama has plans for “Probing Bush Torture”….&lt;/i&gt;
Don&#039;t tell him. Keep it a surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama has plans for “Probing Bush Torture”….</i><br />
Don&#8217;t tell him. Keep it a surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Orange Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orange Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;round up every single Bush administration official and ship them to Guantanamo for their military tribunals.&lt;/i&gt;

No, that&#039;s all wrong mate.  We need to rendition them, secretly, without access to a lawyer, to a central European country where they still dip prisoners in boiling vats.  The people who initiated all of this shit really need to live through what they instituted, otherwise &quot;justice&quot; becomes the equivalent of exiling Idi Amin to a life of luxury in Saudi Arabia.  If we don&#039;t nail these fuckers, they&#039;ll be back in 2012 looking to be re-installed for another round of despotism.  Torture as a national security tool is absurdly stupid, but as a tool of national justice?  Priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>round up every single Bush administration official and ship them to Guantanamo for their military tribunals.</i></p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s all wrong mate.  We need to rendition them, secretly, without access to a lawyer, to a central European country where they still dip prisoners in boiling vats.  The people who initiated all of this shit really need to live through what they instituted, otherwise &#8220;justice&#8221; becomes the equivalent of exiling Idi Amin to a life of luxury in Saudi Arabia.  If we don&#8217;t nail these fuckers, they&#8217;ll be back in 2012 looking to be re-installed for another round of despotism.  Torture as a national security tool is absurdly stupid, but as a tool of national justice?  Priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: HemlockEcho</title>
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		<dc:creator>HemlockEcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has plans for &quot;Probing Bush Torture&quot;.... you mean, like, what a gynecologist does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has plans for &#8220;Probing Bush Torture&#8221;&#8230;. you mean, like, what a gynecologist does?</p>
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		<title>By: actor212</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14231.html/comment-page-1#comment-723112</link>
		<dc:creator>actor212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Well, Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon before any charges even, so looks like yes.&lt;/i&gt;

Technically, three impeachment charges had be voted out of the Judiciary Committee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Well, Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon before any charges even, so looks like yes.</i></p>
<p>Technically, three impeachment charges had be voted out of the Judiciary Committee.</p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Perle vs. Feith in an all out knock down kick ass brawl. Winner takes All.&lt;/i&gt;
When I am in charge of booking events at the Clown Arena, as well as the straightforward gladiatorial clashes, you can expect to see warm-up acts where prisoners are torn apart by wild yeasts.*
*I am hoping for sponsorship from Belgian breweries, hence the product placement..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Perle vs. Feith in an all out knock down kick ass brawl. Winner takes All.</i><br />
When I am in charge of booking events at the Clown Arena, as well as the straightforward gladiatorial clashes, you can expect to see warm-up acts where prisoners are torn apart by wild yeasts.*<br />
*I am hoping for sponsorship from Belgian breweries, hence the product placement..</p>
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		<title>By: Major Woody</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/14231.html/comment-page-1#comment-723087</link>
		<dc:creator>Major Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;OBAMA WILL TORTURE BUSH WITH PROBES&lt;/i&gt;

He&#039;s just working his way up to the Violet Wand.</description>
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<p>He&#8217;s just working his way up to the Violet Wand.</p>
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