to answer:

grilled chicken Caesar,
30%.”

30%?

She was likely hoping for some extra dessert, if you know what I mean.

to answer:

grilled chicken Caesar,
30%.

*Except for Amy Alkon.

I’m so so sorry. The Power of Christ® compelled me.

Ann Althouse.

Okay, who the fuck am I trying to kid!

I have Obamagoogle chickens.
When do they come home to roost?

They are after all, a COMPLETE violation of First Amendment rights.

Happy Happy, Joy JOY!

They wouldn’t hesitate to throw JC under the bus…

To be honest Mr. Truth, I’d be so excited that I’d probably spit in your ear and hump it with my willy.

Go McCain!!

The upshot is that nobody holding my Obama paper can afford to see him lose, so win-win all around!

The single most beautiful thing about this whole change of government is that it is happening without a shot being fired. It’s still a streetfight.

I for one will be a fuckuva lot happier come June, July, or August with the Obama administration than with the McCain administration.

Let’s keep it in perspective.

just those people who want to find a new kind of discourse

with:

Moderate conservatives are welcome to step forward. It should be safe now.

mikey,
From what I read, most people here only want to marginalize ‘the ideologues, …the bigots, …the wingnut wackjobs’, just like you. I have yet to discern an extremist among the S,N! regularos. I can’t see anyone here poisoning their children.

They may, however, point to the Bush years as a cautionary tale.

h. lewis

My point is this — the term ‘wingnut’ refers to someone who, over the past eight years, has swallowed their doubts about whatever issues they might have disagreed with the wingnut gestalt about, and fallen into lockstep with the overall wingnut agenda.

That, for them, has meant stifling their doubts and objections to say, torture, or financial deregulation, or choice, or wiretapping. For the most part, it doesn’t really matter what they compromised on. The effort, on the proverbial wingnut’s part, has been to occlude differences in the cause of presenting a united front, to further membership on a winning team … entirely for (it can’t be stressed enough) it’s own sake.

This process has killed our dialogue, our polity and our country, in that order. We who opposed this process from the start have been joined by more and more disenchanted voices as each year has gone by, to the point where we are in a position to wrestle back the country from the brink of insanity and disaster.

We now find ourselves in the majority position (fingers crossed), with all that this entails. We’ll soon have a rational president and a rational legislature that reflects the direct opposite of the truth-killing, debate-stifling, war-starting, dissent-bullying apparatus that has dominated this country for the first decade of the 21st century.

This is enormous. This is cause for rejoicing and celebration and great sighs of relief.

But it will also be over soon, perhaps the very instant it begins. Wednesday morning (or in my case and that of most here, I suspect, Wednesday evening), we’ll wake up to find our ship has finally come in, but our work has just begun. We’ll find ourselves jockeying for the causes we hold most dear against those for whom other issues are more pressing. We’ll see that the particular way we interpreted ‘hope’ and ‘change’ is at odds with how erstwhile allies interpreted those same things.

And power will corrupt, quickly … and few here will be at all happy with the Obama administration come next June or July or August. Some stuff will get done that we like, but more won’t that we’d like even more … toss in a ramp-up of violence in Pakistan and you’ve got the recipe for an all-out assault from the left on the man we’re all fighting to see elected, just months after he’s sworn in.

So be it. That’s life and the ongoing mystery of life marching on. Wouldn’t want it any other way. And that’s why, to get back to Mikey’s original question, it’s not so scary that, sometime after the great victory and national course correction, maybe the Right, maybe the people who’ve had their doubts about this whole enterprise, start really asking the questions that can’t be answered so patly by us liberal Obamanauts. Maybe they start presenting answers that are better than ours. Maybe it all goes full circle and it’s their turn to lead again.

But if we’ve learned any lessons, this shouldn’t be frightening. It’s natural, and generally works itself out. All we ought to be concerned with at this moment in history, is righting the ship as best we can now, and when tomorrow’s different set of problems emerges, deal with them then.

No and yes. It’s not obsolete, but it is abused by the MSM. When some propagandist for the right calls Obama “far left,” (Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.), it requires only the most cursory intellectual honesty to point out, “No, see, ‘far left’ means, as it always has, socialist/communist. You–and your listeners/viewers–literally don’t know what you’re talking about.”

This, yes, is beyond the MSM. But the spectrum left/right is still meaningful.

Let’s compare and contrast with the way the right demonizes the left. The way the hate becomes institutionalized, the way we pass our religions on to our children.

I don’t know how I could have tossed a softer softball. Not the ideologues, not the bigots, not the wingnut wackjobs, just those people who want to find a new kind of discourse, a new (or maybe old) way of doing political debate.

And as I hear it, your answer is no – they are not welcome here. We’ll take endless war and no solutions over any kind of negotiated settlement, salted earth and destruction, wreckage and hatred.

Know what? That’s not just ugly, it’s stupid…

mikey