Comments on: What We Call Hate, He Calls Home http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html Poise! Poise! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:30:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: tree hugger http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-710018 tree hugger Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:19:52 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-710018 Whee! I just wrote a diary on Daily Kos with my response to an email from my bible-beater stepsister that hit on many of the same points. And I went to a "Yes on 8" rally to counter protest, and the people there hit the same points... it's like they're coordinated or something. WITH MONEY FROM UTAHAN DEEEEVILS. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/22/113212/31/45/638649 Whee! I just wrote a diary on Daily Kos with my response to an email from my bible-beater stepsister that hit on many of the same points. And I went to a “Yes on 8″ rally to counter protest, and the people there hit the same points… it’s like they’re coordinated or something. WITH MONEY FROM UTAHAN DEEEEVILS.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/22/113212/31/45/638649

]]> By: MzNicky http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709898 MzNicky Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:25:36 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709898 justme: I think that's part of it fer sure. Authoritarian wingnuts see the world in black-and-white, either/or terms, and anything that threatens to subvert their all-important lines of demarcation must be squished out of existence. Immediately! The national security of their underwear is at stake! Or something. justme: I think that’s part of it fer sure. Authoritarian wingnuts see the world in black-and-white, either/or terms, and anything that threatens to subvert their all-important lines of demarcation must be squished out of existence. Immediately! The national security of their underwear is at stake! Or something.

]]> By: amutepiggy http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709894 amutepiggy Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:23:36 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709894 I support an anti-Prop 8 campaign comprised of an infectious jingle plus jaunty conga line! "Separate is not e-QUAL! Separate is not E-qual!!" etc etc. It worked for "You don't win friends with salad!" I support an anti-Prop 8 campaign comprised of an infectious jingle plus jaunty conga line! “Separate is not e-QUAL! Separate is not E-qual!!” etc etc.

It worked for “You don’t win friends with salad!”

]]> By: justme http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709796 justme Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:35:37 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709796 <blockquote>Horseshit. Marriage originated (and is still maintained in many quarters) as a contractual arrangement whereby a man acquires a woman legally so that she will have the “privilege” of cleaning his house and bearing his children.</blockquote> So <i>that's</i> it. The wingers have a problem with gay marriage because it doesn't make it clear enough who owns whom. Denny is afraid that if the gays can marry, his wife will start telling him to GB2 the kitchen and make her a sammich. It all makes sense now.

Horseshit. Marriage originated (and is still maintained in many quarters) as a contractual arrangement whereby a man acquires a woman legally so that she will have the “privilege” of cleaning his house and bearing his children.

So that’s it. The wingers have a problem with gay marriage because it doesn’t make it clear enough who owns whom. Denny is afraid that if the gays can marry, his wife will start telling him to GB2 the kitchen and make her a sammich. It all makes sense now.

]]> By: Fozzetti http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709790 Fozzetti Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:30:57 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709790 What does Q.E.D. stand for? My guess was "Quick (and the) Dead" but "and" doesn't start with "E". So I tried to think of suitable words that started with "e" but couldn't think of ANY words that start with "e". So I got out my Scrabble Dictionary and checked the "e" section, and there were plenty of words starting with "e", none over 10 letters. By that time I'd forgotten what I was doing. Ah, wonderful wonderful Vicodin. What does Q.E.D. stand for? My guess was “Quick (and the) Dead” but “and” doesn’t start with “E”. So I tried to think of suitable words that started with “e” but couldn’t think of ANY words that start with “e”. So I got out my Scrabble Dictionary and checked the “e” section, and there were plenty of words starting with “e”, none over 10 letters. By that time I’d forgotten what I was doing. Ah, wonderful wonderful Vicodin.

]]> By: Smut Clyde http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709770 Smut Clyde Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:06:50 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709770 In one of his novels, Alex Comfort describes officially-sanctioned marriage as "a dog license issued by God or by the state, neither of which entities I recognise". I miss Alex Comfort. In one of his novels, Alex Comfort describes officially-sanctioned marriage as “a dog license issued by God or by the state, neither of which entities I recognise”.
I miss Alex Comfort.

]]> By: actor212 http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709734 actor212 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:16:37 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709734 <i>For example, in my very blue state, there is a “moment of silence” law which mandates quiet reflection before the school day begins. The people that advocated this surely envisioned children with their heads bowed in prayer to Jesus.</i> You live in a "very blue state" that has no Jews, but has Hindus and Muslims????? No, wait, I got it, you're a fucking ANTI-SEMITE! Troofie: Jew hater. For example, in my very blue state, there is a “moment of silence” law which mandates quiet reflection before the school day begins. The people that advocated this surely envisioned children with their heads bowed in prayer to Jesus.

You live in a “very blue state” that has no Jews, but has Hindus and Muslims?????

No, wait, I got it, you’re a fucking ANTI-SEMITE!

Troofie: Jew hater.

]]> By: Susan of Texas http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709705 Susan of Texas Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:37:27 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709705 First it was a bill of sale. Then it was a business contract. Then it became a "sacred ritual." First it was a bill of sale. Then it was a business contract. Then it became a “sacred ritual.”

]]> By: MzNicky http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709698 MzNicky Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:26:53 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709698 <i>But marriage is actually a privilege that society bestows on whom it chooses.</i> Horseshit. Marriage originated (and is still maintained in many quarters) as a contractual arrangement whereby a man acquires a woman legally so that she will have the "privilege" of cleaning his house and bearing his children. These sanctimonious hatebag douche-nozzles as usual are just makin' shit up in order to obstruct the civil liberties of others. Their blatherings resemble nothing more than they do the same preposterous jackassery that came out of the mouths of racist assholes back in the '50s and '60s. On the rocky road to fully realized civil rights for <b>everyone</b> I'm afraid the fucktards will always be with us. But marriage is actually a privilege that society bestows on whom it chooses.

Horseshit. Marriage originated (and is still maintained in many quarters) as a contractual arrangement whereby a man acquires a woman legally so that she will have the “privilege” of cleaning his house and bearing his children. These sanctimonious hatebag douche-nozzles as usual are just makin’ shit up in order to obstruct the civil liberties of others. Their blatherings resemble nothing more than they do the same preposterous jackassery that came out of the mouths of racist assholes back in the ’50s and ’60s. On the rocky road to fully realized civil rights for everyone I’m afraid the fucktards will always be with us.

]]> By: Bitter Scribe http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709696 Bitter Scribe Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:23:34 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709696 <i>you are trying to tell me that you know men who have had it in their heads that it would cool to have permanent threesomes? </i>I think you're only allowed to do them one at a time. you are trying to tell me that you know men who have had it in their heads that it would cool to have permanent threesomes?

I think you’re only allowed to do them one at a time.

]]> By: robert green http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709693 robert green Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:18:04 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709693 string you are trying to tell me that you know men who have had it in their heads that it would cool to have permanent threesomes? ummmmmm no shit? string

you are trying to tell me that you know men who have had it in their heads that it would cool to have permanent threesomes?

ummmmmm

no shit?

]]> By: StringonaStick http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709692 StringonaStick Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:09:51 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709692 Well, in all fairness, it is only the Fundamentalist LDS (FLDS - sounds like a feminine hygiene spray, I know) that still advocate/require polygamy. Though from some of the "regular" Mormons I've known, I get the feeling they'd love to head back into that territory if they thought they could get away with it. Well, in all fairness, it is only the Fundamentalist LDS (FLDS – sounds like a feminine hygiene spray, I know) that still advocate/require polygamy. Though from some of the “regular” Mormons I’ve known, I get the feeling they’d love to head back into that territory if they thought they could get away with it.

]]> By: roseyv http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709688 roseyv Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:05:15 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709688 Also, what I find most hilarious about this whole business (in a sad, depressingly hilarious sort of way) is that the main reason this thing might actually pass is because of a massive push by ... <i> Mormons. </i> Yes, that's right, <i> Mormons </i> all up in arms about what they perceive as a threat to "traditional marriage." <i> Mormons. </i> You know, the people to whom this is a no-brainer. Because everyone knows that marriage should be defined as between one man and ... some other number of women. Also, what I find most hilarious about this whole business (in a sad, depressingly hilarious sort of way) is that the main reason this thing might actually pass is because of a massive push by … Mormons. Yes, that’s right, Mormons all up in arms about what they perceive as a threat to “traditional marriage.” Mormons.

You know, the people to whom this is a no-brainer. Because everyone knows that marriage should be defined as between one man and … some other number of women.

]]> By: roseyv http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709685 roseyv Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:00:50 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709685 You know, just because the thing I didn’t hear might have been there, that doesn’t mean the thing I might have heard wasn’t necessarily not there … God, my head hurts. You know, just because the thing I didn’t hear might have been there, that doesn’t mean the thing I might have heard wasn’t necessarily not there … God, my head hurts.

]]> By: Susan of Texas http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709678 Susan of Texas Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:47:50 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709678 If hate is a virtue, then love is a sin. Makes perfect sense in Conservative World. If hate is a virtue, then love is a sin. Makes perfect sense in Conservative World.

]]> By: J Neo Marvin http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709676 J Neo Marvin Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:45:09 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709676 OK, serious question. If, FSM forbid, this piece of crap manages to pass, isn't it still subject to being taken back to the CA supreme court as soon as someone contests it? OK, serious question. If, FSM forbid, this piece of crap manages to pass, isn’t it still subject to being taken back to the CA supreme court as soon as someone contests it?

]]> By: A kinder, gentler Gary Ruppert http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709672 A kinder, gentler Gary Ruppert Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:41:31 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709672 The fact is, my friends and I don't hate homosexuals. Really, we don't. We hate the sin but love the sinner, just like Jesus said to do. Or maybe that was James Dobson. I get those two mixed up a lot. Anyway, we don't hate homosexuals. It's just that homos (and BTW, it's not prejudiced to call them that, it just saves wear and tear on my fingertips, and if you think otherwise <i>you </i>have the problem) have this way of...<i>existing. </i>You know what I mean. Their bodies take up space and consume oxygen and reflect light, just like they were normal people or something, and it's just so <i>annoying. </i>So I'll make all you homos a deal. If you just teleport yourselves instantly to an alternate universe, where none of my friends and I have to see, hear or think about you ever again, we'll stop opposing gay marriage. OK? The fact is, my friends and I don’t hate homosexuals. Really, we don’t. We hate the sin but love the sinner, just like Jesus said to do. Or maybe that was James Dobson. I get those two mixed up a lot.

Anyway, we don’t hate homosexuals. It’s just that homos (and BTW, it’s not prejudiced to call them that, it just saves wear and tear on my fingertips, and if you think otherwise you have the problem) have this way of…existing. You know what I mean. Their bodies take up space and consume oxygen and reflect light, just like they were normal people or something, and it’s just so annoying.

So I’ll make all you homos a deal. If you just teleport yourselves instantly to an alternate universe, where none of my friends and I have to see, hear or think about you ever again, we’ll stop opposing gay marriage. OK?

]]> By: Brandi http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709667 Brandi Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:35:15 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709667 Shorter Twoof: "Look, I found an acorn! Now could you give me my white cane back? Oink!" Shorter Twoof: “Look, I found an acorn! Now could you give me my white cane back? Oink!”

]]> By: robert green http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709636 robert green Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:58:33 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709636 oh, truth, the stories i could tell you about scientology! i live in hollywood, after all, and work in the movie business. we are THICK with that idiocy around here. the funny thing is how much overlap there is between scientology and mormonism eschatologically. i think hubbard borrowed liberally (as it were) from joseph smith when he was making his silliness up. although the smith story ("losing" his tablets and so on) is the stupidest of them all. and i hope, for future reference, that you don't assume you can mind read people based on a narrow point. it doesn't make your arguments more cogent if you go on a personal attack against the person with whom you are disagreeing. who knows, they make actually agree with you! oh, truth, the stories i could tell you about scientology! i live in hollywood, after all, and work in the movie business. we are THICK with that idiocy around here.

the funny thing is how much overlap there is between scientology and mormonism eschatologically. i think hubbard borrowed liberally (as it were) from joseph smith when he was making his silliness up. although the smith story (“losing” his tablets and so on) is the stupidest of them all.

and i hope, for future reference, that you don’t assume you can mind read people based on a narrow point. it doesn’t make your arguments more cogent if you go on a personal attack against the person with whom you are disagreeing. who knows, they make actually agree with you!

]]> By: robert green http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/13049.html#comment-709614 robert green Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:40:24 +0000 http://www.sadlyno.com/?p=13049#comment-709614 i hate that muslim stuff too, the truth, and i think you are making a perfectly reasonable point. this may be the one area where you and i have strong overlap. i believe that tolerating the intolerant is liberalism's great weakness. i always have. i try to put myself in the shoes of a young female professional in algeria in 1993--given a choice between a military dictatorship or the islamic brotherhood (whose stated mission at the time was to get rid of the democracy that had given them the right to lead algeria) i would have gone with the dictatorship in those shoes. and i think that is how stark it is, ultimately. there is no such thing as "peaceful evangelism"--asking me to follow as hate-filled a worldview as mormonism does not constitute "peaceful". but i agree--in for a penny in for a pound when it comes to calling out puerile fundie religious bullshit. i hate that muslim stuff too, the truth, and i think you are making a perfectly reasonable point. this may be the one area where you and i have strong overlap. i believe that tolerating the intolerant is liberalism’s great weakness. i always have. i try to put myself in the shoes of a young female professional in algeria in 1993–given a choice between a military dictatorship or the islamic brotherhood (whose stated mission at the time was to get rid of the democracy that had given them the right to lead algeria) i would have gone with the dictatorship in those shoes. and i think that is how stark it is, ultimately.

there is no such thing as “peaceful evangelism”–asking me to follow as hate-filled a worldview as mormonism does not constitute “peaceful”. but i agree–in for a penny in for a pound when it comes to calling out puerile fundie religious bullshit.

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