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16

We Demand A Correction, Etc.




Posted at 15:42 by Gavin M.

It’s been a day since our avatar of fact-checking and investigative ‘citizen journalism,’ Mr. Confederate Yankee, was fooled by a totally fake, made-up, and does-not-even-exist news service into publishing this.

It’s been about half a day since we pointed that out to him, both here and in a polite comment on his site — which he deleted, failing to make any correction at all to the story, and so on down the exact line of behaviors that he routinely and without irony accuses the ‘liberal MSM’ of doing when they print something that contradicts the unbiased reporting of Republican dupes, quasi-fascist Internet cranks, and screaming talk radio hosts.

Anyway, that was half a day ago, so it’s about time for another flaming catastrophe, chez Yankee. Let’s see what he’s gotten himself into this morning.

Secret Service: Media Claim of “Kill Him” Unfounded

Don’t have any proof of rage-filled bigots at McCain-Palin speeches, even though you just know in your shriveled little heart that they have to be there?

Never fear. You can always just make it up.

The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.

Unfortunately, many also know in their shriveled hearts that the notorious, original “kill him” incident, as reported by Dana Milbank in the Washington Post, happened on Monday, October 6, in Clearwater, Florida.*

Confederate Yankee must do what is right and resign the editorship of Confederate Yankee. We await his urgent reply, etc.


* Update for the purpose of clarification: There have been two distinct incidents in which a McCain/Palin supporter allegedly shouted “kill him,” allegedly in reference to Barack Obama.

79 Comments »

  1. Scott said,

    October 16, 2008 at 15:49

    Bob Owens is dumber’n a bag of hammers.

  2. D.N. Nation said,

    October 16, 2008 at 15:59

    I’m grilling some big pork chops Friday night. Mmmm.

  3. owlbear1 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:04

    Hey Folks I think Bob’s got us.

    Somebody somewhere didn’t say it so nobody everywhere didn’t hear it.

  4. Definitely Not Ann Althouse said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:08

    Just because a thing I thought I heard wasn’t really said doesn’t mean that the thing couldn’t have been said so I didn’t hear it.

  5. Gary Ruppert said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:08

    Damn banjos in my head again.

  6. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:09

    Speaking of the liberal MSM:

    You’ll hear the booing behind me. In recent days, when Barack Obama’s name has been mentioned, it has gone from boos and hissing to actual chants and calls of traitor, criminal, and even terrorist.

    The McCain campaign says they don’t condone it, they don’t want to see it happen, but it’s happening more and more every day.

    They even got FOX News.

  7. Lesley said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:10

    supporting a fake president, reporting fake news, makes bob a swill guy

  8. actor212 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:17

    So let me get this straight: Cornfed takes a story that was likely made up on a blog that probably is based in, ohhhhhhhhhhh, Kentucky, as opposed to Kenya, and makes up even more shit about it?

    And then, not content with that little bit of Internet performance art, he invents yet another story to deflect a story that he didn’t even respond to in the first place?

    Wow. I need my Dramamine just to keep up!

  9. Nim, ham hock of liberty said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:30

    I can understand how Cornfed wanted to keep the door open on the chance that the interview was real. After all, it wasn’t written in broken English, and didn’t sound exactly like every Nigerian scam email I’ve ever received. I can totally see Michelle Obama saying things like, “All dirt has been thrown on my husband’s face.”

    You really can’t blame the guy for keeping an open mind here.

  10. Woodrowfan said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:30

    Actually, TIDOSY may be right. Check the story on Talking Points Memo.

    http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/10/secret_service_looking_into_ob.php

  11. Woodrowfan said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:31

    He MAY be right on the “kill him.” He’s still the same old 14 K fool on the API “story”

  12. Righteous Bubba said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:34

    CY’s point appears to be that it has never happened based on this particular incident, and that’s false.

  13. Righteous Bubba said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:36

    The “IT” being rage-filled bigots yelling stupid things.

  14. MzNicky said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:38

    The McCain campaign says they don’t condone it, they don’t want to see it happen, but it’s happening more and more every day.

    Rouse the rabble, fire up the mouth-breathers, the hate-radio listeners, the ignorant knuckledraggers, the bigots and the racists and the blind ragers; rile ‘em all up with inflammatory rhetoric about “palling around with terrorists” and class code-words like “eloquent” and “elitist”; then when calls for “kill him” and “off with his head” and “traitor” inevitably rise from the crowd, stand back and say you “don’t condone” it. Classic demagoguery at work, and the Rethugs are SO good at it. Except that now, just about anyone with a triple-digit IQ is onto them, and they’ve got nothing left. Nothing. How about that.

  15. kiki said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:39

    Well, it may not be true this time, but doesn’t the fact that I believed the story – and the fact that it actually did happen previously – tell you something?

  16. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:40

    Woodrowfan,
    Well, maybe there wasn’t someone yelling “Kill Him” the second time – but then again maybe there was:

    Listening to tapes of that rally, the Secret Service heard “tell him” or “tell them,” but agents never heard “kill him,” Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren told The Associated Press on Wednesday.

    BOO URNS! BOO URNS!

  17. Nim, ham hock of liberty said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:40

    Actually, TIDOSY may be right.

    Newp. His post suggests it never happened. Which suggests he doesn’t understand that it was claimed to happen at two different rallies. The secret service investigation isn’t finding evidence that it didn’t happen at the second rally.

  18. LittlePig said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:48

    How can we question the hearing of Republican Secret Service folk? I mean, come on, they were clearly saying “Senator Obama is near”.

  19. Woodrowfan said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:52

    OK, I misread the TPM story. I blame lack of caffeine…. My bad. carry on.

  20. SamFromUtah said,

    October 16, 2008 at 16:58

    Except that now, just about anyone with a triple-digit IQ is onto them, and they’ve got nothing left. Nothing. How about that.

    If 100 is the average IQ, about half the country isn’t in the triple digits. I suspect that the density of two-or-fewer-digiters is higher than average at those rallies, too.

    Sad, innit?

  21. dBa said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:01

    You so silly. Republicans don’t resign because of incompetence, they get promoted.

  22. Legalize said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:10

    “Except that now, just about anyone with a triple-digit IQ is onto them, and they’ve got nothing left. Nothing. How about that.”

    Like the kids say, “it’s all over except for the crying.” And there’s gonna be A LOT of crying. Loud crying.

  23. henry lewis said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:19

    OT:

    Just as Sarah Palin was coached before her debate, John McCain prepared by carefully studying debates from previous campaigns.

    ‘He’s as crooked as a warped shillelagh!’

  24. Willy said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:20

    Anyone care to bring me up to speed on what TIDOSY stands for (besides ‘blindingly stupid’)?

  25. henry lewis said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:23

    Treason-In-Defense-Of-Slavery Yankee

  26. Righteous Bubba said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:23

    Treason In Defense Of Slavery Yankee.

  27. Scott said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:25

    Willy, TIDOSY = Treason in Defense of Slavery Yankee

  28. SamFromUtah said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:28

    And there’s gonna be A LOT of crying. Loud crying.

    Oh, I dunno, these folks seem to be pretty gracious losers. I mean, you never hear anything against the New Deal or the War of Northern Aggression anymore.

  29. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:36

    TIDOSY = Transom Investigations & Distribution Of Stupid Yakshit

  30. jim said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:37

    Eep. Owens is like the Bruce Lee of Fail-Fu.
    Does he ever NOT screw up?

    Memo To CY: People have screen-capture software now. The “Delete” key cannot save you.

    (PROTIP – if postscripts entitled “Correction” or “Errata” are quickly becoming the norm on your blog, you’re probably Doing It Wrong.)

  31. Caepan said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:46

    When I saw the link to the Wilkes-Barre Times-Leader, saying that the SS couldn’t find any evidence of shouts of “Kill him!”, I just had to laugh.

    The Times-Leader should be celebrating its 30th anniversary this month as becoming an official scab newspaper. 30 years ago, Capital Cities (long before it punchased ABC, then was swallowed by Disney) bought the paper, and then tried to break a strike with barbed-wire fences, surveillance cameras, and Pinkerton agents. The strikers started The Citizens’ Voice, which is now owned by the same newspaper group (Shamrock Communications, owners of the Times/Tribune) that reported the shout. There has been bitter feelings between both papers ever since.

    Whereas The Citzens’ Voice has always been more of a “Scoop Jackson Democrat” type of local rag (love the unions, hate the commies), the Times-Leader has been at the forefront of the right-wing takeover of local news. There are still bitter rivalries between the papers to this day, reflecting how they both cover the news. But at least the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre region is still a legitimate two-newspaper town.

    Don’t youse guys know yer NEPA history? Haina?

  32. actor212 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:52

    Clearly, the Wanker has not heard something someone said that wasn’t there, therefore it *might* have not occured!

    Now I can haz law perfessership in Wisconsin?

  33. henry lewis said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:52

    OT again.

    Wow. This latest ad is some slick.

    Choice cutting. Snarky narrator. All done overnight.

    Poor little feller. Why won’t the referee stop this bloodbath?

  34. actor212 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:56

    This is in his latest story:

    I’m going to start doing something I should have done long ago. When I catch a journalist committing fraud or nakedly partisan political journalism, I’m join to make sure that I name them, and not just the organization they work for.

    First off, the fact that he didn’t do this previously tells me that he was willing to tar an entire staff of reporters because of what he perceives as one person’s bias (or error).

    That’s sort of like calling the New York Times a gaffe-filled conservative rag based solely on the columns of Bill Kris–

    Oh. Um, maybe he has a point…

  35. actor212 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 17:57

    Wow. This latest ad is some slick.

    Choice cutting. Snarky narrator. All done overnight.

    C’mon, John, give us some tongue like you mean it!

  36. J— said,

    October 16, 2008 at 18:01

    Al Austin, a GOP fundraiser in the Tampa area, sent out a My Right-Wing Dad-type email yesterday.

    Al Austin, the Tampa developer and mega GOP fundraiser, today blast e-mailed a less-than-charming joke about Barack Obama talking to an elementary school class about the meaning of the word “tragedy.” The punchline:

    Finally at the back of the room, Little Johnny raised his hand. In a quiet voice he said: ‘If the plane carrying you and Mrs. Obama was struck by a ‘friendly fire’ missile and blown to smithereens that would be a tragedy.’

    ‘Fantastic!’ exclaimed Obama. ‘That’s right. And can you tell me why that would be tragedy?’

    ‘Well,’ says the boy, ‘It has to be a tragedy, because it certainly wouldn’t be a great loss and it probably wouldn’t be an accident either.’

    Later he said sent it without reading it.

  37. J— said,

    October 16, 2008 at 18:02

    he said he sent it

  38. Vic said,

    October 16, 2008 at 18:19

    They weren’t yelling “Kill him”, they were yelling “Boourns”.

  39. Walker said,

    October 16, 2008 at 18:33

    I hate to defend the Wanker, but

    1. The exclamation was heard at both the Clearwater rally and the Scranton rally. The Clearwater incident was reported by Milbank, while the Scranton incident was reported by David Singleton of the Scranton-Time tribune.

    2. The Secret Service has now investigated both claims. They went through the tapes on the Clearwater rally and were supposedly in the audience at the Scranton one.

    3. In both cases they claim that they have no evidence of anyone yelling “kill him”. The Clearwater one is really close (the Secret Service says the tapes sound more like “tell him” than “kill him”), but even then, few people think that one was directed to Obama. It was likely intended for Ayres.

    With all that said CYs claim that people are making stuff up is pretty strong for no evidence. But the snark is not on Sadly No’s side in this case.

  40. Righteous Bubba said,

    October 16, 2008 at 18:42

    The relevant sentence:

    Don’t have any proof of rage-filled bigots at McCain-Palin speeches, even though you just know in your shriveled little heart that they have to be there?

    Yes, there is proof.

  41. Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico said,

    October 16, 2008 at 18:53

    The Clearwater one is really close (the Secret Service says the tapes sound more like “tell him” than “kill him”), but even then, few people think that one was directed to Obama. It was likely intended for Ayres.

    Yeah, I think you’re full of shit.

    “Few” people think it was directed at Obama? Like fuck.

  42. J— said,

    October 16, 2008 at 18:56

    On the Clearwater incident, note the spokesperson’s phrasing:

    The Secret Service confirmed Friday that it had investigated an episode reported in The Washington Post in which someone in Palin’s crowd in Clearwater, Fla., shouted “kill him,” on Monday, meaning Obama. There was “no indication that there was anything directed at Obama,” Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren told AP. “We looked into it because we always operate in an atmosphere of an abundance of caution.”

    AP.

  43. tigrismus said,

    October 16, 2008 at 18:57

    With all that said CYs claim that people are making stuff up is pretty strong for no evidence.

    Well, except for the fact that it’s repeating eyewitness reports: the witnesses may have misheard, but nobody reporting what real people actually said they heard can be said to be “making stuff up.”

  44. Willy said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:06

    In this video, you can clearly hear a man yell “Kill that fuckin prick”, it starts at 0:13

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVFWahLTdUo

  45. The Total Dick-Head said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:06

    Malkin’s making the same claim: nobody can confirm ‘Kill Him’ remark.
    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/16/baffled-secret-service-cant-find-anyone-to-corroborate-reporters-kill-them-claim/

    Go to it fellas.

  46. SamFromUtah said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:08

    We Demand A Correction, Etc.

    Start with more attainable goals, that’s what I recommend.

    Like “We demand a shitstorm of incoherent, dignity-free screaming.”

  47. PeeJ said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:13

    I was just downstairs in the lobby and clearly did not hear someone not saying “Teh Wankee’s tongue is buried deep in McCain’s fundament.”

    Perforce, it must be true.

  48. Woodrowfan said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:20

    Of course if the Secret Service asks the McCain campaign “did someone here yell ‘kill him!’” what’s the campaign going to say expect “nope, uh-uh, no sir.”

    And yes, I do think the Secret Service takes their job very seriously and I don’t doubt they’ll do their best to protect Senator Obama (hopefully soon to be PRESIDENT OBAMA). But frankly, I don’t think some fool yelling “kill him” at a McCain/Palin rally is at their top of their lists of threats.

  49. Woodrowfan said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:21

    expect=except. sheesh.

  50. Dan Someone said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:25

    Damn, that is one fine, fast piece of work in that ad. I would like to know where that final clip, of McCain saying he voted 90% with Bush, came from.

    Is there a slaughter rule in political campaigns?

  51. rotten mcdonald said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:25

    Peej, are you saying TIDOSY was ‘tongue-jacking McCain’s shitbox’?

    Because that phrase can’t be used enough.

    Also, Teh Buttocks.

  52. PeeJ said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:30

    Peej, are you saying TIDOSY was ‘tongue-jacking McCain’s shitbox’?

    No, what I meant to say was “the Cornfed Wankee is tongue-jacking McCain’s shitbox.” So, no I was not saying TIDOSY was tongue-jacking McCain’s shitbox.

    I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

  53. PeeJ said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:32

    PS – @Intrade Obama 86 (+3.4) McCain 14.8 (-3)

    Also, poop.

  54. Marion in Savannah said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:35

    “I would like to know where that final clip, of McCain saying he voted 90% with Bush, came from.”

    Didn’t he say that during one of those ghastly Republican primary debates when he was courting the wingnut vote? It seems like 118 years ago, but that’s what I seem to recall.

  55. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:49

    Ah but Willy, “Kill that fucking prick” isn’t the same as “Kill him” now is it? Totally, totally different.

  56. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:54

    Joe Klein wrote something fairly decent today.

    I have a few quibbles, down around comment 121ish, but give credit where it’s due.

  57. mikey said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:54

    Then, if I understand the thrust of these events, the Secret Service investigated McCain’s Shitbox in Scranton and in Clearwater. In Scranton, they found no evidence of Toungejacking, but in Clearwater they could not rule out the possibility that McCain’s Shitbox had actually been Toungejacked.

    As possible evidence in further investigations and any possible criminal action, the Spokesman for the Secret Service announced that they were going to have to seize McCain’s Buttocks in order to determine the extent of the Toungejacking.

    Ahh. American Law Enforcement at it’s finest…

    mikey

  58. mikey said,

    October 16, 2008 at 19:55

    Spellchecker seems to think the phrase should be “Hijacking McCain’s Shinbone”…

    mikey

  59. Willy said,

    October 16, 2008 at 20:00

    D-K Wang:
    They surely aren’t the same. I suck at this game.

    Guess I’ll just go back to reading Pastor Swank’s columns backward. I found out recently they make much more sense that way.

  60. actor212 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 20:04

    Al Austin

    Isn’t he related to Al Jazeera and Al Qaeda?????

    MY GOD, WHY IS THIS MAN STILL WALKING THE STREETS????

  61. actor212 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 20:06

    And yes, I do think the Secret Service takes their job very seriously and I don’t doubt they’ll do their best to protect Senator Obama (hopefully soon to be PRESIDENT OBAMA). But frankly, I don’t think some fool yelling “kill him” at a McCain/Palin rally is at their top of their lists of threats.

    As well it shouldn’t be, altho it did bear a bit of investigating, to be sure.

    What troubles me more about this is not the “threat” to Obama’s well-being, but the disingenuousness of claiming liberals are unAmerican and have threatened Bush repeatedly over the past eight years, and then allowing shit like this to be *defended* without any firm evidence that Milbank’s story is inaccurate or incorrect.

  62. PeeJ said,

    October 16, 2008 at 20:10

    Holy fucking shit! Al Jazeera gets the heartlanders on record.

  63. Kathleen said,

    October 16, 2008 at 20:14

    I seem to recall some cries of “terrorist” and “traitor”.

    What is it that we do again to traitors and terrorists?

  64. Gluteus Maximus said,

    October 16, 2008 at 20:18

    seize McCain’s Buttocks

    I’m sorry to butt in, but please, let’s put an end to cracks about buttocks. I know it’s fun to fart around, but it’s been run into the toilet. This hilarity is pooping me out. Let my people go!

  65. Woodrowfan said,

    October 16, 2008 at 20:27

    What is it that we do again to traitors and terrorists?

    if they are wingers then they get talk shows (see North, Ollie and Liddy, G. Gordon)

  66. Candy said,

    October 16, 2008 at 20:32

    Plumbing the depths of toilet humor is like trying to fill an inside straight flush. You get a nugget occasionally, but usually the humor is tissue thin, and the whole joke just goes to pot.

  67. Candy said,

    October 16, 2008 at 20:35

    Speaking of flushing, I’m a non-violent soul but I’d probably wink at someone sticking TIDOSY’s head in the loo and flushing a couple of times. Hey, waterboarding ain’t so bad, now is it, Bob? And there’s no proof anyone yelled “Drown the rat bastard!” It was “Don’t hurt the Bobster!” That’s what the crowd was demanding. Really.

  68. rotten mcdonald said,

    October 16, 2008 at 21:16

    Candy, there’s a part of me that says Ole Bob has already been on the receiving end of a fair number of swirlies.

    Not to say he couldn’t use another, oh no.

  69. actor212 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 21:20

    I don’t want to pile on to this scatology, butt it seems to me that if you have to resort to the single act of creativity that each and every human being is capable of (except for anally-retentive conservatives and a few librarians I know), then clearly you’re in the dumps.

  70. Smut Clyde said,

    October 16, 2008 at 21:20

    You try getting your shinbone connected back to your kneebone after it’s been hijacked.

  71. actor212 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 21:21

    Holy fucking shit! Al Jazeera gets the heartlanders on record.

    Have they checked the kerning on the video????

  72. Smut Clyde said,

    October 16, 2008 at 21:22

    Buttocks are inherently funny. It is in-nates.

  73. Lawnguylander said,

    October 16, 2008 at 21:27

    I’m so tired of all these corny jokes.

  74. Walker said,

    October 16, 2008 at 21:51

    Leon Trotsky

    Yeah, I think you’re full of shit.

    “Few” people think it was directed at Obama? Like fuck.

    Again, I am talking about Clearwater, not Scranton (which if it happened is clearly directed to Obama). Milbank, together with some audio tapes, are our only source on this. He specifically said in his original article that this was possibly a reference to Ayres given the context in which it was shouted. This fact was unfortunately dropped by many of the sites spreading the story about the blogosphere.

    So, by “few” I mean “few people seriously investigating this thread” and not “few random people who have read a link to a link to a link to a link on a blog”.

    Look, CY is a wanker. But crap like this gives them moral high ground and that is not cool.

  75. Duros Hussein 62 said,

    October 16, 2008 at 22:05

    You get a nugget occasionally, but usually the humor is tissue thin, and the whole joke just goes to pot.

    It is kind of corny.

  76. Leon Trotsky, Exile-in-Mexico said,

    October 16, 2008 at 22:22

    Look, CY is a wanker. But crap like this gives them moral high ground and that is not cool.

    I disagree. *Nothing* gives Confederate Yankee the moral high ground. He calls himself “Confederate Yankee”, for fuck’s sake. But let’s suppose you are correct in that the actual statement of “kill him!” was directed at Bill Ayers.

    Are we then suggesting a direct threat on him is justifiable? I mean, either way, we have people demanding someone be *killed*. Obama, Ayers, fuck, the Easter Bunny, it’s all pretty unseemly.

  77. Righteous Bubba said,

    October 16, 2008 at 22:26

    Look, CY is a wanker. But crap like this gives them moral high ground and that is not cool.

    Please reread the post above and note this from CY:

    Don’t have any proof of rage-filled bigots at McCain-Palin speeches, even though you just know in your shriveled little heart that they have to be there?

    Yes there is specific proof of rage-filled bigots at McCain-Palin speeches, whether or not “kill him” is removed from consideration.

  78. OneMan said,

    October 17, 2008 at 0:47

    “Teh Wankee’s tongue is buried deep in McCain’s fundament transom.”

    FIFY.

  79. MzNicky said,

    October 17, 2008 at 2:08

    It is kind of corny.

    It set me back on my haunches. Also, I have a cousin named Fanny.

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