As for Palin’s behavior when her labor began, it was not only weird and reckless, but also indefensibly dangerous. I’ve talked to countless other mothers as well as four OB/gyns–one of whom I know socially, as our kids go to school together– since that story came to light, and all of them said what my own OB said sixteen years ago when my water broke: Go to the hospital immediately. Right now. Go. And my pregnancy was “unremarkable and full-term”, not premature (like Palin’s) or involving a special needs baby (also like Palin’s). DS kids, especially when born prematurely (which could have happened any moment, since this was her fifth delivery) often have serious issues at birth, i.e. breathing, that really require top-drawer neonatal facilities.

It’s hard not to wonder how or why any mother could put her baby’s life in such obvious jeopardy; it’s especially hard to not ascribe nefarious intentions to Palin’s actions (or rather, inaction). I know I am having a hard time making sense of them.

I’d rather stay away from anyone who thinks that any of the more Eastern sects aren’t “real Christians”; talk about a “slippery slope”….sheesh.

Lex

Yes. Very rigid, paranoid, exclusive definitions of who is “real” and who is “fake” are generally bad news… in religion, culture, or ideology.

Groups who always focus on how everyone else is untrustworthy are a bit suspect.

I would not be surprised if D.N. is responsible for most if not all of the parody troll bullshit we see around here. He seems unusually obsessed with them.

Really, DN Nation?

OK, ittdgy’s links are a hint. Still, DN’s attempt at troofy was missing that note of sheer hatred that the original had…

Yes, and not only that one.

The plaintiffs (echoing the Bush v. Gore decision) claim…

I was surprised to learn that it is still an unsettled question whether the Supreme Court intended to (or is even able to) limit the use of Bush v. Gore as a precedent in future cases.

I’m wondering there’s some hidden scandal in troopergate that they are afraid will get out. Not necessarily something actionable, but something embarrassing.

The trooper himself sounds like a real piece of work. I was surprised that they didn’t allow it to go forward and do their best to paint the guy a monster, gaining sympathy for the reasons they wanted to have him fired.

But as time went by and they haven’t said much about him, it makes me wonder what they have to hide.

They’ve had more vile things to say about Obama than they have about Palin’s brother-in-law.

Speaking of obsessions, Nader Halliburton stock One True Progressive BLARGH!!!

Brad, all you need to use are the facts.

I agree – the wingnut kingdom will display an uncanny knack to use the mysteries of fact-checking sites to torpedo fiction-based rodent-orgiasty, & the blame will be directed straight back to the candidate.

Obama’s rat-abstinent strategy is kicking ass – McCain is dropping in the polls & he just announced his intention to focus AWAY from the economy to go after Obama’s character. As the economy worsens, that “Wrath Of Rove, Part 3″ angle is going to look more & more like offering free Afros at a Klan rally. The man is digging his own political grave – & there’s more than enough REAL dirt in McCain’s own bio to put him in it.

Happy coffin-nailing.

Tell the Talibangelicals that he’s going to love ‘em & leave ‘em just like Bush did – it’s likely true & will produce the optimal ratfuck effect: turn Goopers against one another so they do your work for you.

Tell the glibertarians that Palin is itching to take away their most cherished liberties the moment McCain dies or becomes incapacitated. Also very likely true, & also a divide-&-conquer play.

Al Qaeda metastized during the Clinton years.

… & the official hunt for OBL ended during the Bush years. The CIA Unit was dissolved & the FBI’s involvement now amounts to a “wanted” poster. Bush doesn’t care about finding him & has said so repeatedly.

Oops.

No Reagan = no viable Mujahedin = no Al Quaeda.

To reiterate: the GOP was warned by the CIA about a very high probability of domestic blowback (including large-scale terrorism) in the 1980s, & said “screw it, we’re sending them more weapons & money anyway” … & the rest is history.

Oh, & who was Bush business partners with for several years, via the Carlyle Group? Why lookee lookee – none other than the bin Laden family. Many of whose members got free rides home from the US on 9/12, on the taxpayers’ dime – no questions asked. Small world, huh?

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/7

also, this New Yorker article is very insightful:

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/09/15/080915fa_fact_levy

A not-very-happy woman in a not-very-happy marriage, it would seem.

Kinda like how nobody would have known about Cindy McCain’s felony-enhanced drug habit, eh? I still can’t quite fathom the degree of hubris necessary for McCain to have pushed that dead issue to the point of press coverage. Dumb dumb dumb.

And in other news: Thunder, is DN really the Truth? Why on earth would DN do that? (I’ve had Truthy in the killfile for months, so haven’t read a single one of its posts in forever, but from what I remember it’s all far from entertaining . . . )

That’s open to debate.

The “slate” of George W. Bush, whatever else it may be, is not blank.

Yes, I am fully aware of all George Bush war crimes.

I was alluding to the fact that most of the electorate had never heard of him until he began running for President, and came to know what he was like far, far too late for it to make a difference.

I had a visceral dislike for him the moment I saw his face, something that hadn’t happened to me since Martha Stewart appeared on my television, equally false and unwelcome.

Though far less damaging.

Sarah Palin has had a much shorter arc from first appearance to knowing all too much about her. I can only hope that is a good thing.