Oct
3

Countdown To Armageddon




Posted at 2:48 by Gavin M.

Welp, since I don’t have a freaking laptop anymore, I can’t liveblog the VP debate. Open liveblog debate thread snorgle woohoo!


Above: More cogent than people seem to think

P.S.: Palin Bingo here!!!

463 Comments »

  1. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 2:51

    Woo-hoo! Let the drinking/snarking/cursing/debate blogging begin!

  2. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 2:52

    I want it to start!! I can’t wait!! Thanks for the thread, BTW;)

  3. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 2:54

    Gavin darling: Thanks from me also for the debate thread.

    And: Does the Dr. Mrs. not have a laptop you can use?

  4. Smut Clyde said,

    October 3, 2008 at 2:55

    Countdown to Armageddy would be a good name for a Rush tribute band.

  5. Andre said,

    October 3, 2008 at 2:59

    Why is Sarah Palin rearing her head in my internets?

  6. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:00

    History’s cool.

  7. mrpendent said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:00

    Because she’s just, ya know, right there.

  8. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:01

    It’s on, homiez!

  9. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:01

    David Brooks, Mark Shields on PBS commetarying.

  10. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:03

    “Can I call you Joe?”

  11. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:03

    Can I call you Joe?

  12. Gary Ruppert's Poor Abused Children said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:03

    Ifil will be the big loser tonight

  13. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:03

    jinx

  14. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:04

    kick it Joe.

  15. Gary Ruppert's Poor Abused Children said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:04

    mark shields is my go-to dem

  16. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:04

    hair up.

  17. Lawnguylander said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:04

    Did she just spit in her hand before shaking Biden’s hand?

  18. Gary Ruppert's Poor Abused Children said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:05

    hair up for biden or satan?

  19. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:05

    It’s been a bad time, dork.

  20. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:05

    here we goooooo

  21. Spiders Everywhere said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:05

    My brother just IMed me that Chris Matthews is reporting from in front of a group of people holding NIXON’S HEAD 2008, NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP, and NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN signs.

  22. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:06

    Oh, CHrist…

    Hockey. Right off the bat. Or stick.

  23. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:06

    “kids soccer game on Saturday.” Thus begins the “Joe Sixpack” “we’sjust folks” meme.

  24. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:06

    Concerns about her being fed lines through an earpiece have proved groundless.

  25. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:06

    I thought it was all whining?

  26. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:06

    Soccer Momming it up already, dammit.

  27. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:06

    hair up AND down. Smooth.

  28. Gary Ruppert's Poor Abused Children said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:07

    love that electric blue jacket on Gwen

  29. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:08

    kick it Joe. “He’s out of touch.”

  30. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:08

    I know it’s the way to win independents, but I’m sick of all this “Ooooh, let’s get the R’s on board.” On Countdown, KO said all the pork is for the Confressional R’s. Dump them and let’s get somewhere. Don’t we have the votes?

  31. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:08

    she just winked.

  32. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:08

    “reform.” First tequila hit.

  33. Gary Ruppert's Poor Abused Children said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:08

    “track record of reform”??? Isn’t Track one of her kids?

  34. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:09

    something new and different — reform! more tequile!

  35. Marco said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:09

    We’re the greatest workforce in the world. Too bad we don’t have a lot of jobs.

  36. Gary Ruppert's Poor Abused Children said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:09

    Occasionally, she sounds like Posh Spice in that foreign accent of hers

  37. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:10

    Fuck, I hate that little fucking head-duck-wink thing that Palin does. It makes me want to fucking strangle every man that it ever worked on while she was growing up.

  38. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:10

    “Darn right!”
    “Joe Six-Pack!”
    “Hockey mom!”

    All in one response.

  39. Marco said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:10

    Darn right. You betcha, Joe six pack and hockey moms!!!!

    You have your candidate.

  40. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:10

    hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  41. Gary Ruppert's Poor Abused Children said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:10

    Joe Six-Pack??? I’m doing bottles of Molson tonight since tequila would knock me on my ass

  42. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:10

    Whoa, she wants strict oversight! Isn’t that heretical?

  43. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:11

    She hisses at mirrors.

  44. Gary Ruppert's Poor Abused Children said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:11

    she doesn’t show in a mirror

  45. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:12

    Is she here for a debate or an Emmy? Can these responses be any more canned and rehearsed? Egads….

  46. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:14

    Another “darn right!”
    “94 times Obama voted for tax increases”

    “did not. McCain voted the same way.” Kick her ass Joe.

  47. Lawnguylander said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:14

    That is the biggest fucking flag pin I’ve ever seen.

  48. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:14

    Come on Joe…..get animated…..here we go, now he’s getting feisty. Heeheehee

  49. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:15

    “gonna talk straight [about what I did in ALASKA!!] as a way to avoid the question.

  50. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:15

    Oh talk to the hand!!

  51. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:15

    Teh governor is in the pocket of big fail.

  52. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:15

    Oh. She’s not going to answer questions?

  53. Marco said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:15

    She’ll answer questions her way. By not answering questions.

  54. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:16

    Biden: “Fairness.” What a concept.

  55. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:17

    hahaha

  56. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:18

    “Todd and I.” Fuck you.

  57. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:18

    Yeah. She’s middle class. By McCain’s definition.

  58. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:18

    Get her on the health care, joe!

  59. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:19

    Oh boy. health care. Oh yeah, we can all purchase our health care plan for $5,000. You fucking twat.

  60. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:19

    She has invoked the ’small business’ Republican mantra. Boy was she in debate boot camp or what?

  61. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:21

    Ouch

  62. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:21

    GO JOE!

  63. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:21

    “We don’t call that redistribution; we call that FAIRNESS.”

    “Taxes as income the $5,000 health-care benefit.”

    Biden knows his health care. Go man.

    “Ultimate bridge to nowhere.” Awesome.

  64. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:21

    Chortle.

  65. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:22

    The crowd broke the rules!!!

    Debate OVER!!!

    The Audience was all LIBS!!!

    BLAAARRGH!!1

  66. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:22

    Exxon-Mobil. He’s got her ass on that.

  67. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:23

    He’s not backing down.

  68. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:24

    Tell them about praying for the pipeline.

  69. Bistroist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:24

    John McCain doesn’t tell one group one thing, and then turn around and tell another group another, eh?

    So, which offensive lineup is he gonna pick for his Vietnam anecdote this week?

  70. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:25

    Can she return to her rehearsed little script any more? Honestly. Respond to Joe ripping you a new one you wannabe!

  71. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:25

    “How long have I been at this? Five weeks?”

    Yeah. Admit that you’re out of your depth.

  72. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:25

    Platitude Bible Spice speaks Platitude.

  73. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:26

    Tell them about praying for the pipeline.

    Damn straight!

  74. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:26

    parsing Alaska and national policy. Good Joe.

  75. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:26

    I’m hoping that he makes her cry.

  76. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:27

    She’s not capable of crying out of humiliation. God has chosen her.

  77. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:30

    “because that’s just a quick answer”? What a segue to talk about some other hackneyed bs.

  78. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:30

    OH MY GAWD SHE DRONES!

    ARGH!!!

  79. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:31

    She keeps talking about “putting government back on the people’s side” and reform and corruption, as if one party hasn’t been running Washington for years. Joe, please mention Bush, the elephant in the room nobody wants to talk about!

  80. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:32

    “I don’t want to argue about the causes.” They never do, since they’re part and parcel of the problem.

  81. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:32

    Uhm, if you don’t pay attention to the cause?

    You ain’t gonna solve the problem…

  82. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:32

    Whoa, she almost said molecules…

  83. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:32

    omg. We need to drill more in Alaska in order to clean up the environment? wtf?

  84. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:32

    Bible Babble Spice, beaches!

  85. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:34

    Biden spouts facts, Palin spouts platitudes and changes the subject. An intelligent populace would see a clear choice. Unfortunately, this is America.

  86. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:34

    “drill baby drill.” Here comes the Irish whisky shot.

  87. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:35

    Senator O’Biden!

  88. kmfg said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:35

    nuculur

  89. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:35

    AAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

    NUCULAR!!!!!!

    Fuck. I thought we had seen the ass end of that.

  90. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:35

    Joe doesn’t need to go find McCain’s voting record and get it for us.

    Eeek, trusting the environment to her? No thanks.

  91. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:35

    NOO KYOO LAR

  92. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:36

    somehow this isn’t funny, or fun.

  93. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:37

    NOO KYOO LAR

    Sluggo, that’s now required pronunciation for wingnuts.

  94. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:37

    same-sex stuff. Hello. Thank you Joe.

    Madame Palin?

  95. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:37

    My damn web connection is flaking out. No longer live. Sniff.

  96. kmfg said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:37

    i know, i’m in constant cringe mode here

  97. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:37

    The fact of the matter is…

    ???? Joe Biden is Gary Ruppert???

  98. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:37

    WE LOVE TEH GAYZ! SCHWEEET.

  99. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:38

    Hahahaha!

    Well, Ms. Lipstick, are you Tolerant or are you Not?

    Blah blah blah friends blah blah. Tolerate my ass, you fundamentalist snakehandling INTOLERANT parsing fuck.

  100. Sporkey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:38

    I’m really getting a kick out of this debate….”ENERGY! ALASKA! ENERGY!”

    I’m surprised that she didn’t shout “ENERGY” at the question of if she supports gay marriage.

  101. kmfg said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:39

    fail fail on the marriage issue

  102. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:39

    Why. WHHHYYYYYYY

    I knew how to pronounce that word when I was in grade school.

    Also: did she just admit there’s someone in her family who’s gay?

  103. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:39

    Biden’s right. “marriage” is a religous thing. Civil is different.

  104. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:39

    Sign of the times: even when blabbing about traditional marriage, the Republican has to give lip service to the rights of same-sex couples. Not long ago, even the Democrat wouldn’t have done that. Biden’s hammerin home his “fairness” theme here. Good.

  105. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:39

    THEY DID IT AGAIN!!

  106. kmfg said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:40

    sigh, its depressing to here “my” candidate bluntly push so many under the bus like that

  107. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:40

    Oh God, I’m droppin’ my G’s now. I’ve been Palinized! Help me!

  108. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:40

    I have to say, she’s not fucked up yet. Biden has also kept himself in check.

  109. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:40

    Wedge into teh gay heterz. Biden lays buzzsaw trap, Palin walks into buzzsaw blade.

  110. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:40

    She has a gay friend. She said it was a woman, but according to Dan Savage, who has heard from this person, it’s a man.

  111. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:40

    Funny, I thought she was all about “early withdrawal”…

  112. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:41

    Go MzNicky!!

  113. Bigfoot said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:41

    She thinks we can’t pull out too early.. well.. we already have plenty of evidence you think that way Mrs. Palin.

  114. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:41

    Re Iraq: Biden: Plan. McSame: No plan.

  115. Sporkey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:43

    Talibani…great with Ragu

  116. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:43

    She mentioned her family in response to a question about gay rights. Tacit admission.

    I’m guessing the longshot here: it’s Trig.

  117. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:43

    Whatta we win?

  118. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:45

    Biden: “We will end this war. For McCain, there is no end.” THANK YOU.

    McPalindrone: “blah blah blah commanders on teh ground blah blah getting closer and closer to victory blah blah blah stuff you said during the primaries blah blahæ

    Biden: “John McCain voted against funding because he didnt’ like the timeline. Let’s get it straight: Not a week,not a day … McCain said there would be enough oil to pay for it… but he’s been wrong, Obama has been right.”

    YES>

  119. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:45

    Biden’s playing the “I know McCain better than you do” card.

  120. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:45

    Christ, she’s going to say NOO KYOO LAR again.

  121. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:46

    Dead wrong!

  122. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:47

    I love that she’s wearing the red shoes

  123. mikey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:47

    Look. I like to think, read and write about global geopolitics.

    This is second grade crap.

    I know they can’t talk to us like we’re grownups.

    But I actually DO know some shit.

    And this makes my ass tired….

    mikey

  124. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:47

    More General Worship.

  125. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:47

    TOLD YOU

  126. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:47

    NUKULAR!

    BINGO!

  127. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:48

    KIIIIILLLLLLL MMMEEEEEE!!!!!!!

    NUKULAR NUKULAR NUKULAR!!!!!!!!!!

    AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  128. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:48

    “I would believe ….that leader of AlQuaeda?”

  129. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:48

    I hate people who say “Eye-ran”

  130. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:48

    She’s been well-prepared. She’s not coming off like a total idiot.

  131. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:49

    Raul will be so proud.

  132. Sporkey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:49

    IRANIRANIRAN.

    Biden scored it with Pakistan already has nukes

  133. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:49

    oh christ KISSINGER.

  134. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:49

    Even when Gwen pointedly feeds her the right pronounciation, she still says nookyoular.

    OK, my dad worked for Lockheed, and he said it that way too. But I could spot him that for his Southern dialect. After 8 years of EVERYONE making fun of Bush for it, what’s her excuse? “Liberals pronounce it “nookleeyar”, so fuck ‘em!”?

  135. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:49

    Oh, heavens, now she’s channeling W.

  136. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:49

    Ask a limbless Timorese about Kissinger’s passion

  137. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:50

    Heh. Gary Biden again.

  138. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:50

    Biden’s spanking her good re Iran.

  139. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:50

    Ready to back ya up there.”

  140. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:51

    Spain!

  141. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:51

    SPAIN! A NATO ally!

  142. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:51

    Biden’s on diplomacy now. The Begin quote, “you don’t make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies” would come in handy right now.

  143. Bistroist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:51

    Sweet zombie Jesus, please take me now!* She’s like a wingnut platitude mad-lib.

    *roughly, behind the woodshed

  144. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:51

    You could’ve killed yourself if you’d had a “one shot every time NOO KYOO LAR was spoken” rule.

  145. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:52

    Has she got a cheat sheet? She keeps glancing down.

  146. Vic said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:52

    I don’t know how you can watch this debate without becoming an alcoholic.

  147. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:52

    She met with one side or the other?

    Holy fuck

  148. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:52

    “Secretary Rice, having recently sat down with one side or another over there….”

  149. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:52

    Of course, she’ll support Israel, they need it for the End Times.

  150. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:53

    sluggo: An oversight on my part. I am unfortunately still fairly sober.

  151. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:53

    Vic said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:52

    I don’t know how you can watch this debate without becoming an alcoholic.

    I’m way ahead of ya.

  152. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:53

    She’s spewing talking points with great intensity. To a lot of people that may be enough, regardless of whether she actually understands them.

  153. Arky The Islahomobamaist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:54

    Oh, heavens, now she’s channeling W.

    But WereBear, they hate America!

    I love the rearing of the terrists-who-hate-us-for-our-tolerance head less than ten minutes after Marriage means one man and one woman.

    Maybe they hate us for our scratchy voiced hypocrites?

    BTW, I just read that a judge has refused to halt the trooper firing probe.

  154. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:54

    I don’t know how you can watch this debate without becoming an alcoholic.

    Start off as one.

  155. Sporkey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:54

    “building our embassy in jerusalem”….wow you almost could’ve missed that….yeah, End Times, baby, End Times

  156. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:54

    yes joe, get into the current administration, of whose party these fuckheads are part, their avoidance notwithstanding.

    McPalin of course blah blah blahs it.

  157. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:55

    Oh, let’s not point fingers! It might lead to knowledge!

  158. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:55

    Let’s not bicker and argue about who killed who! This is a happy occasion!

  159. Gary Ruppert said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:55

    The fact is, your boys Joe and Osama are going down. Sarah is really sticking it to the liberal bias machine.

  160. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:55

    “too much fingerpointing backward” for the “party of change”? Uh — wha?

  161. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:56

    “Let’s not bicker and argue over who killed who”

  162. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:56

    that’s right joe, tie Bush to these fuckers. “How’s his policy going to be different? So far it’s the same”

    that’s the ticket.

  163. Arky The Islahomobamaist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:56

    Change is coming! Jesus is coming! Braaaak!

    Christ, Dan Quayle is going to demand an apology.

  164. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:56

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  165. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:57

    Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular Nukular

  166. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:57

    She keeps saying “nuke-u-lar.” Is that on purpose, or is she really as purposefully illiterate as Teh Shrub?

  167. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:57

    She’s killing me with teh nukulur.

  168. Strangething said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:57

    I was hoping he’d hit harder on the diplomacy thing. Come on, Joe, mention Reagan and the SALT treaty!

  169. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:57

    BREATHE!!!

  170. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:57

    Love the Fundie code speech she’s throwing in. “Bible Spice” indeed.

  171. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:57

    What? They’re going to build concrete walls in Afghanistan?

  172. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:57

    Shot

    Shot

    Shot

    Shot

    Shot

    All in this one answer. Also: KIM JONG-LLLL

  173. Gary Ruppert said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:58

    The fact is, you can’t stand that Values Voters are back and Moral values are still important, you can’t make us here in the Heartland hate God. Sarah is Awesome!

  174. Vic said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:58

    I now want to atomize the state of Alaska.

  175. Sporkey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:58

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA.

    BUILDING SCHOOLS!

    This is awesome.

  176. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:58

    “The surge principles need to be enacted in Afghanistan”…oooh, talk dirty to me, babay!

  177. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:58

    Things are great in Pakistan! And (will be) also in Afghanistan!

  178. Gary Ruppert said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:58

    The fact is, Gwen Ifill is biased toward Obama because she’s black.

  179. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:58

    Reverse general worship.

  180. Bistroist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:59

    The nuclear deterrent is a “safe and stable way to use nucular weaponry”?! Yeah, we all felt so fucking safe during the Cold War.

  181. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:59

    The fact is, Gwen Ifill is Condi’s lover, so shut the fuck up.

  182. Sporkey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 3:59

    MzNicky –

    Don’t forget – We built schools in Iraq!

  183. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:00

    Thank you, Joe, for saying “nuclear”. It’s like a cool drink of, well, something, after Babble Spice.

  184. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:00

    I want to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of Palin.

  185. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:00

    Biden is clearly an elitist because he knows how to pronounce the word “nuclear.”

  186. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:00

    I want to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of Palin.

    Win!

  187. Gary Ruppert said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:00

    The fact is, if you don’t support the mission, you don’t support the troops, in fact you hate them. Shut up.

  188. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:01

    I think I need a nap now.

  189. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:01

    I’m watching CNN streaming with the voter ratings. How come the dem viewers are flatlining through this? How are they measuring this anyway — with a plethysmograph?

  190. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:01

    Actually, she’s doing better than McCain did, in terms of eye contact.

  191. Bistroist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:01

    Oh, and you have no allies helping in Iraq, you ungrateful bint?

    Damn, I’m actually starting to get involved in this depressing freak show, I think I’ll better go clean the bathroom before I’m too drunk to stand.

  192. kmfg said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:01

    I think Gary has mind control over Biden.

  193. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:02

    Also interesting, Biden says, “An Obama Administration”. Palin says “A McCain/Palin Administration”.

    Ego much?

  194. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:03

    Oh Biden, if you EVER trusted Bush, you were a sucker. Nice parsing, though.

  195. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:04

    can you see darfur from wasilla?

  196. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:04

    god I just want to slap her.

  197. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:05

    Is it my imagination, or is Biden doing pretty well?

    Relatively speaking?

    Is it…

    …nnnnah, I’m a washington outsider nnnnnaaah nnnnaaaah….

    …war non sequitur neh neh McCain neeeeeeh…

    …troops nnnnah nnnneh….

    …oh the pain the pain the shame…

  198. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:05

    inserts finger in throat. maybe darfur could use a hockey rink.

  199. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:05

    The sneaky little bitch! “Voted for it before voting against it”….”Washington outsider”….she has been EVERY BIT as devious up there in AK to get ahead and she WAS for that damned bridge before she said, “No thanks”. ARGH!

  200. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:06

    What I see as insufferable smugness must appear as adorable perkiness to the Garys of the nation. Time will tell if it matters. The latest polls are somewhat comforting, though I don’t have much faith in polls.

    Shit, this drinking contest is making me maudlin. Fuck that. Sarah’s as big an idiot as ever. Just a more well-prepared one tonight.

  201. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:06

    Cheney mentioned…where’s the Bush mention, Joe?

  202. gbear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:06

    I’m watching CNN streaming with the voter ratings. How come the dem viewers are flatlining through this?

    The ratings are divided by men and women this time, not R & D. Stupid move.

    I tried to watch this for a while but I started to implode. I agree with this commenter over at balloon juice:

    I can’t do it, guys. I can’t watch that stupid brain-dead simpleton up there, so supremely confident in her imagined competence as she spews out garbled talking points like a high-school drunk vomits up wine coolers. She’s a fucking idiot. I’m going to go take a shower and have a drink and then go to bed. It’s a goddamned insult to me, all of you, America, Joe Biden and Gwen Ifill for Sarah Palin to even be on that stage, and she should apologize to each and every one of us, personally, for wasting all of our time and energy. And so should the fossilized old lech that is reponsible for this insult to mediocrity being up on that stage, John McCain.

  203. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:07

    “John McCain knows how to win a war”

    Oh really? Like, say, VIETNAM?

  204. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:07

    McCain knows how to win a war?????

    How? From being a POW?

    What fucking war did John McCain win?

  205. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:08

    Good Question Gwen!

  206. Jason said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:08

    OH GOD THE BLENDERS ARE COMING THE WAR BLENDERS

    Seriously. This is hilarious.

  207. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:08

    Bush Doctrine.

    Sweet.

  208. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:08

    “If OBAMA were to die”??? Hello.

  209. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:09

    President Palin.

    The End.

  210. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:09

    “Our administration? A Team of Mavericks!!”

    Next tequila shot.

  211. lobbey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:09

    While Biden is running her into the ground, can he not just shut up now and again, he mixes the message to much.

  212. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:10

    “Wasilla Main Street”? Oh fuck no, thank you, but no thanks.

  213. Bigfoot said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:10

    OH GOD!!!!!

    Team of Mavericks …. John McCain knows evil.. what the fuck.. this is straight talk!?!

  214. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:10

    She really comes off like a second rate local news anchor.

    More at 11!

  215. Arky The Islahomobamaist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:10

    “What I would do also if that were to happen though…”

    She’s rapping.

  216. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:11

    ’smatta, you don’t like meth?

  217. Pope George Ringo I said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:11

    ..if she got elected, she’d be the VPILF, but if Gramps strokes out, she’d be a PILF, I guess.

    Bless her Heart…

  218. jim said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:11

    “John McCain knows how to win a war …”
    LOL

    “We can agree to disagree …”

    Because who wants a boring old united ticket?
    That’s not Maverickiness We Can Believe In!

  219. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:11

    Good lord, again with the everyday hard-working Americans.

    Which I’ve been since I was 14, and been screwed by her party my whole adult life.

  220. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:11

    Biden once again bonds McGramps to McBush. Thank you.

  221. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:11

    …whdidjhspekt? A team of mavriks!

    GIBBERISH

    Fuck!

    Palin doesn’t even fucking know where Wilmington is.

    She doesn’t know where DELAWARE is.

    Jesus fucking sweating Christ.

  222. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:11

    errr

    “Wasilla Main Street”? Oh fuck no, thank you, but no thanks.

    ’smatta, you don’t like meth?

  223. Jason said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:12

    Her reward is in heaven?

  224. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:12

    “Joe! There you go again!”

    FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING TWAT. I say that as a feminist.

  225. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:12

    Oh Noez, Joe! You’re looking backwards! You can’t do that! That would be almost like learnin’ from history!

  226. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:12

    but dude you don’t live in Wasilla!!!!!

  227. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:12

    uhm,…

  228. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:13

    Dog GONE it

    The Obama campaign needs to just show “Fargo” clips in anti-Palin commercials.

  229. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:13

    “No Child Left Behind” is a failure. YES, it is. As a program of YOUR FUCKING PARTY.

  230. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:13

    Seriously, is she supposed to be coming off as charming? Because she’s making me nauseous.

  231. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:13

    What the fuck is with her use of verb tense?

    These schools needed to be wanting…

    It’s a new frontier of language!

    Fucking “ramp it up” couldn’t fucking teach the alphabet in our local fucking kindergarten.

  232. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:13

    my grandma was a carpenter; she built houses, barns and banks.

  233. Bigfoot said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:14

    And such began the reign of Darth Palin…

  234. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:14

    “We know what a VP does.” Yeah, you do NOW, you fucking cow, since you’ve been SCHOOLED about it, you lame-ass bitch. Again, I say this as a feminist.

  235. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:14

    Good Conversations.

    heh!

  236. kmfg said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:15

    John McCain won Vietnam for 5.5 yrs

  237. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:15

    John McCain ,John McCain ,John McCain ,John McCain ,John McCain ,John McCain.

    WHAT! Is there some other fucking John, or McCain that we’re talking about here?

  238. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:15

    I’m reaching my threshold for cutsey yapping.

  239. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:15

    this lady makes my skin crawl. sorry to not be more substantial but i am literally nauseous.

  240. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:15

    Yeesh, and for coherent writing too.

  241. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:16

    Also: did she just menion Biden’s first wife, who died in a car crash? Did I miss something?

  242. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:16

    Here we go.

  243. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:16

    Oh, this oughta be good. Palin on Cheney.

  244. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:16

    She has no clue what she’s talking about, just hitting her talking points by rote.

  245. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:16

    Yeah, right, a bad joke.

    She could promise to lurk in the Rose Garden while McCain gives a speech.

  246. Cain said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:16

    Justme:

    there you go again! Stop looking backwards!

  247. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:16

    No fucking answer on fourthbranch.

    Other than, MINE, BITCH!!!

  248. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:16

    She only sounds coherent when she looks at her notes and reads from them.

  249. PS said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:17

    Listening to the radio again, so no visuals (anything interesting?) — seems like herself is probably doing fine with everyone who already agrees with her (and no one else). Fortunately they are a minority. Joe is nearly as boring as I hoped. God she’s stooopid.

  250. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:17

    YES!! YES!! Go Joe!!

  251. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:17

    Ding, ding, ding!!!!

    Get Joe Biden a kewpie doll.

  252. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:17

    WOOT! JOE!

  253. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:18

    Thank you, Joe.

  254. jim said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:18

    Are they laughing WITH her or AT her?
    ” … ramp it up & put more attention in that arena.”
    Q to the E to the muthafuckin’ D.

    Biden slams Darth Cheney – woo hoo!
    (In before “I’ll get back to ya on that”)

  255. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:18

    Oh, Biden just nailed Cheney to the wall. Thank you.

  256. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:18

    “A huge state.”

    Of fucktard animal killers.

  257. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:18

    HA! A huge state (with a population of 4) but a big damn state.

  258. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:19

    Heel, alright.

  259. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:19

    Heartland! Mom! Special Needs child!

  260. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:19

    “Heartland of America.” (Finger down the throat) Give me a break, you shallow bitch.

  261. lobbey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:19

    She is re-writing the constitution now, what an asshole

  262. PS said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:19

    Yup, just the minute I say he’s boring, Jo gets Cheney but good. And used words Sarah doesn’t even understand …

  263. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:20

    I revise my earlier judgment. She comes off like a second rate, small market, local news weather lady.

  264. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:20

    nnneh neh ticket Reagan ticket nrrrr beacon neh

  265. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:21

    “Achilles heel?” And she brags about how humbly awesome she is.

  266. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:21

    Wooooo, single father!

  267. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:21

    Fuckin’ Joe.

    Why did I not…aw, man.

  268. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:21

    Is Joe choking up?

  269. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:21

    Maverick!

  270. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    what about the city on the hill? what about the great communicator?

  271. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    Mavericky!!

  272. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    Miznicky, you’re on fire tonight.

  273. tigrismus said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    Maverick again?! He ain’t the only one “takin’ shots.”

  274. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    Gov. Lipstick: The “maverick” bullshit is so 1990s. No one buys it anymore.

    In any event, two “mavericks,” two whisky shots.

  275. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    Doesn’t she fire everyone that doesn’t agree with her? How is that bipartisan?

  276. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    Yeah, Biden just said something sincere, and now it’s time for you to trot out the talking points and the insincere horseshit.

    Go!

    Maverick maverick!

    Lieberman, Giuliani…

    …yeah, look at all those fucking douchebags.

  277. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    And your appointees, former relatives, everyone

  278. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    Now she’s just doing a word salad.

  279. Cain said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    Did she say the US was a beaker of hope? Or do I need a hearing check?

  280. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:22

    “leave” … I mean, “lead”!

    Ooooh.

  281. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:23

    What’s the count on maverick?

  282. kmfg said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:23

    I love him again!!!#@!@!

  283. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:23

    Finally calling her out on the maverick thing. thank god.

  284. kmfg said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:23

    murkan exceptionalism!Q

  285. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:23

    Oh just forget which party was in charge for the last 8 years! Change! Change!

    Okay, Joe’s gettin’ into the “maverick” bullshit. THANK YOU.

  286. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:24

    “The partisanship that has been entrenched in Washington DC”. Yes, when Democrats start getting some power, then partisanship is an issue. When Republicans run everything, they’re the only Americans. You thin k we don’t have MEMORIES, you stupid cow?

  287. Arky The Islahomobamaist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:24

    Well, thanks to Biden, Palin finally knows what the Vice President does (and does not) do.

  288. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:24

    OH my I am so sorry for all those jplaying drinkiong games

  289. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:24

    Go get her on Mavrickyness, Joe!

  290. tigrismus said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:24

    “The city on the hill” sermon was from the 17th century. Reagan was old, but come on.

  291. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:24

    What’s the count on maverick?

    g: fuck if I know. I’m down three fingers.

  292. PantherWill said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:25

    At least you weren’t playing them with a 40 of Mickey’s…

  293. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:25

    Way to take down that maverick shit there Joe;) nice move

  294. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:26

    I’m checkking in at work, so I don’t kow

  295. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:26

    “I did not veto .. quasi-caved in, if you will”

    She is SO fucking SMALL.

  296. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:26

    No, she hasn’t changed her view. Of course.

  297. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:26

    What’s up with her constant “whoever gets the credit” shit? How passive-aggressive can you be?

  298. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:26

    Oh, fuck. It’s like asking Bush about making a mistake.

  299. Swooney said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:27

    She’s not going to convince anybody who feels a sting when they’re lied to.

  300. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:27

    never seemed to compromise
    because we work together

    Fuck.

    FUCK!

    Which planet do I live on?

  301. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:27

    so how many state budgets has she done? One? So she’s done it once? Twice?

    City budgets don’t work like legislative budgets.

  302. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:27

    So wait, is she saying that she’s never been wrong about something and has never had to change her point of view?

  303. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:27

    “quasi-caved in, if you will…” I will indeed!!

  304. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:27

    From Montana!

  305. Me said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:28

    all those jplaying drinkiong games

    Well, somebody’s been playing drinking games.

  306. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:28

    Mansfield that is.

  307. You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:28

    I just looked at nutcases.freeper.com to see what the whacks are saying about the debate.

    The summary of what their threads are:

    1) go to Drudge and game the poll so Moose “wins”
    2) someting about israel and Moose
    3) whining about Obama being a Nazi
    4) request for somebody to photoshop Obama into Pinhead from the movie
    5) request from somebody about what they should do with their money

    Wow. Idiocy personified.

    I did the same thing at redstate.org. They have almost no comments on their open debate thread; just a few “sarah kicks ass!”.

    Over at Kos, it appears that between 100 and 150 comments go up EVERY MINUTE on their open debate threads.

    Astounding.

  308. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:28

    Do what I did as governor, and appoint my high-school friends!

    nnneh

  309. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:28

    I’d be very grateful for a link to the full debate (once it’s over) as tonight Canada’s having its leadership debate.

    Granted it’s nowhere near as entertaining as I’m sure the VP debate is, but as a citizen I feel obligated to tune in to my country’s dumbasses first.

  310. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:28

    not a single drop…

  311. Swooney said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:28

    Ess gunna be okay. Heh.

  312. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:28

    Joe Biden comes off as a real human. McPalindrone, a total toolbot.

  313. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:28

    What’s her appointee record?

  314. Swooney said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:29

    Infastructure. Soon to be toddlerstructure.

  315. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:29

    Bulid up infrastructure and reign in government spending at the same time! Wow, she must be Wonder Woman!

  316. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:29

    How do you build up infrastructure while reining in spending?

  317. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:29

    Dig at the mainstream media.

  318. lobbey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:29

    She’s now saying she brings Dems across the aisle in Alaska…

  319. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:30

    Will someone be logging all the really dumb things she says or should I just hit the Palinator for the best of…

  320. Jason said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:30

    I’m gonna fight for the middle class! Hold on, I just have to glance at my notes to make sure about that.

  321. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:30

    Reagan!

  322. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:30

    oh fuck no, bitch, you do NOT get to talk about tax increases when it’s your fucking shitbag party that’s jonesing for the bailout because of the excesses they’ve permitted. You fucking fucking awful thing.

    oh god in heaven Ronald Reagan!

    FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

  323. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:30

    WTF?????

  324. Swooney said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:30

    Memorized without understanding. Stresses all wrong in her closing statement.

  325. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:31

    Huh????????????????

  326. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:31

    She sounds like a schoolmarm

  327. lobbey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:31

    and how many mentions of old Ronnie. must be at least 4 in the 10 mins I have been listening.

  328. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:31

    lady, you’ve made me very glad I _don’t_ live in America!

  329. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:32

    Joe is coming across as very sincere. She’s like a beauty pageanter talking about World peace.

  330. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:32

    I’m so disappointed that Biden didn’t punch her in the face.

  331. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:32

    Thank you Joe, for again mentioning that this is the most important election in our lives. As in, one small possible chance to pull us back from the brink. How much more of this shit are we going to take?

  332. Swooney said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:32

    Joe’s obviously far better.

  333. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:32

    Joe comes off as a human being and an eloquent statesman, and Palin as an unusually ingratiating DMV clerk.

    Damn.

  334. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:33

    Go Joe!

  335. sluggo said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:33

    Gwen Ifill, you biased tramp.

  336. You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:33

    I sure hope America senses the fake of Moose, and sees that see was just reading speeches most of the time. NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS!

    I wanted Joe to call her on the fact that she wasn’t answering anything, just giving speeches.

  337. George Smiley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:34

    I was first to call BINGO. I HAVE PWNT YOU ALL!

  338. You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:34

    At least this gives Todd a chance to buy a suit to go along with his 300 snowmobile suits.

  339. tigrismus said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:34

    Katie Couric would’ve done better. “Not to belabor the point, but could you answer the question I actually asked?”

  340. J Neo Marvin said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:34

    So it’s over. Now how are they going to spin this travesty?

  341. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:35

    Well, much like with McCain, I think she did better than I figured.

    Also like McCain, that was a pretty low bar.

  342. Swooney said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:35

    Brooks you knob.

  343. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:35

    Ok time to Freep polls. Let’s go People!!!

  344. jim said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:36

    Holy sheepshit.
    “You hire people regardless of party affiliation”?!?
    This from the Lucretia Borgia of Wasilla.

    Quoting Reagan will work for the base, but it’s weak sauce to everyone else …
    “The last 8 years we’ve been dug into a very deep hole” – sort of wish he’d mention who was manning the backhoe on that, but hopefully folks can connect the dots.

    Well, she didn’t suck QUITE as hard as she could’ve done – but that was hurtful … the Holodeck Media will now puff Palin up because she didn’t go into conniptions, bite the mic off & speak in tongues … & there they go, right on cue. Jesus.

    Lulz with an eerie chill were had.

  345. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:37

    I’m upset that she didn’t just break down and start babbling incoherently. On the other hand, I feel like I’ve been covered with a light sheen of filth for allowing her on my television.

  346. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:38

    Oh, now SuperMom has the entire litter up there onstage, including the Down Syndrome infant, who would be in bed by now if he had a responsible mother. Yes, I hate myself for saying that.

  347. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:38

    Here’s a link to that old Kos thread for the first debate:

    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/26/19044/7434/435/611793

  348. Swooney said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:39

    I’m upset that she didn’t just break down and start babbling incoherently.

    The transcript won’t be pretty.

  349. Arky The Islahomobamaist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:40

    owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:24

    OH my I am so sorry for all those jplaying drinkiong games

    I’m sure you are.

  350. J— said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:40

    Please correct me if I’m wrong, but did Palin endorse Cheney’s view of the vice president’s special position and role?

  351. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:41

    Why is everyone saying how well Palin ended up doing? Why don’t they focus on the real heroes: the trainers who fed her lines with cattle prod reinforcements to make her memorize enough shit to keep her from sounding like a fool again?

  352. Swooney said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:42

    Please correct me if I’m wrong, but did Palin endorse Cheney’s view of the vice president’s special position and role?

    She delivered a line that indicated that, yes. Did she understand it? Probably not.

  353. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:42

    NBC:

    What the fuckin’ Geraldine fuckin’…

    “she’s goin toe to toe with a man who’s qualified to be Vice President…”

    Toe to toe MY FUCKING ASS, Geraldine. TOE TO TOE?

    You have got to be fucking kidding me. You think that was a contest of fucking equals?

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. FUCK!

  354. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:43

    What I wouldn’t give for Biden to ask “When you talk about cutting spending, is that why you charged women for their rape kits?”

  355. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:44

    “Eye-rack” I <3 it! It’s almost as good as nukyular!

  356. lobbey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:44

    I’m so disappointed that Biden didn’t punch her in the face.

    Actually, would have been better if he had asked her go pick up a beer for him.

  357. mikey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:45

    Hang five.

    Ride the lightning…

    mikey

  358. lobbey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:45

    Please correct me if I’m wrong, but did Palin endorse Cheney’s view of the vice president’s special position and role?

    Yes,

  359. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:45

    Well, now she’ll be kept in the VP underground crypt until Election Day. And her wan, marginally unembarrassing performance will have faded, while her idiocy in her interviews with Charlie and Katie will remain.

  360. Arky The Islahomobamaist said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:46

    J-

    Yes she did. According to Palin the Constitution gives the VP flexibility. She also said that the VP “presides over the Senate,” You’ll have to catch a clip of it and Biden’s response.

  361. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:46

    Nooners now having some kind of seizure on NBC.

  362. Swooney said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:46

    while her idiocy in her interviews with Charlie and Katie will remain.

    Yeah. She’s a YouTube goldmine.

  363. WereBear said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:49

    Night, all! The cold medicine is kicking in…

  364. J— said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:50

    Thanks for the confirmation. Watching it, my initial reaction was like Swooney’s—she said yes and elaborated on that yes without understanding the substance of the question.

    That’s a huge fuck-up.

  365. henry lewis said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:52

    Isn’t “there you go again” Reagan’s big zinger? Plagiarists.

    If you haven’t seen the sequel, don’t. It sucks.

  366. bayville said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:52

    Someone forgot to tell Gwen Ifill there was a debate tonight.

  367. mikey said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:52

    Ah, but y’know.

    It’s kinda like shooting people you don’t know ’cause your trying not to lose the fight.

    Ouch…

    mikey

  368. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:54

    MzNicky–I think she’s more of a fembot. She’s too into guns.

  369. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:55

    The spinmeister is calling her articulate.

  370. Doctor Missus Marita said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:56

    Mz Nicky, I apologize for not supplying my husband with my laptop to liveblog. I was stuck in the lab until 9:30.

    Based on my reaction to the brief portion of the debate I was subjected to, it’s probably lucky for me I had to work late. I really don’t care for that vile woman.

  371. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:57

    MzNicky, I must say you must have had some pretty low expectations to describe Sarah’s performance as ‘unembrassing’.

    I mean really low.

    :)

  372. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:59

    oops

  373. henry lewis said,

    October 3, 2008 at 4:59

    I wonder if fans of second rate, small market, local news weather lad[ies] are the heartland’s biggest constituency?

  374. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:00

    Ok, Canada’s debate is over. What’s happening with Dumbass?

  375. Vic said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:03

    What I find amazing about Palin is, more so than even Dubya, that she is able to take words and strip them of any meaning. She is devaluing the English language.

  376. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:03

    Ok, Canada’s debate is over. What’s happening with Dumbass?

    Well, I think we’ve officially re-dubbed Sarah as ‘Babel Spice’.

  377. bayville said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:05

    I see Palin had her prop…I mean baby at the debate. She had the kid out after 10 p.m.
    What’s next? On to happy hour?

  378. owlbear1 said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:06

    Hey now, Biden has some young ones up there too. Tradition dictates families on the stage.

    Can we lay off that crap please?

  379. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:06

    The consensus in the comment thread for our debate is nicely summed up by this commenter:

    IMO Harper took a beating. From all sides.

    Which he deserved due to his being a Liar and a Fraud.

    succinct, factual.

  380. You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:07

    Call me stupid, but I can’t find the online click poll on cbs.com

    It is easy to find at msnbc.com and cnn.com

    Does anyboyd have a direct link…?

  381. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:07

    I read somewhere else that she said “”How long have I been at this? Five Weeks?”

    Is that really true? My god!

  382. henry lewis said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:09

    How do you build up infrastructure while reining in spending?

    With imaginary bridges.

  383. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:11

    We’ll need a count tomorrow of how many times The Palianator said “maverick” unless anyone was going along with it tonight. I lost track. (Of the ‘mavericks’, not her oddly named son.)

    OK, FoxNews is really gushing over Palin, back to CNN now. Oh heavens….she’s speaking now, unmoderated.

  384. damnsle said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:11

    What got me was when Palin was talking about tolerance was how she is so okay with teh gayz “choosing” to be gay, but then she’s not okay with a woman choosing what to do with her own uterus. She is just a terrible, terrible person. I picture her smiling and telling me she loves me as she aims a flamethrower at my head to send me to hell for my sins.

  385. Bagelsan said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:14

    It’s sooo sappy, but I really went “awww” when Biden stumbled a little bit talking about his family and his kids.

    As for Palin’s family’s “diversity”, does she mean that there’s the “knocked up” and the “not knocked up” ones? And, to quote MzNicky, I’m sayin’ that as a feminist. :p

  386. bayville said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:16

    Now it’s time to drag the kids and the family to the Palin Post Debate Pep rally.
    Next up, last call!

  387. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:16

    Palin has to be failing and flailing. Nothing else after weeks of her botching every interview will be acceptable to me.

    If she’s “holding her own” as some are saying (in the media) then someone’s feeding her the answers through some wireless device.

  388. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:16

    I wonder if fans of second rate, small market, local news weather lad[ies] are the heartland’s biggest constituency?

    Not impossible, and that bothers me very much.

  389. J— said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:18

    I read somewhere else that she said “”How long have I been at this? Five Weeks?”

    Is that really true? My god!

    She did. I think it was another instance where she didn’t get the substance of the question. Ifill asked what policy proposals would have to be scaled back or eliminated by a McCain administration or an Obama administration given the severe budget burden the bailout/rescue/cashdrop will impose. She said she and McCain haven’t and won’t break any promises.

    IFILL: So, Governor, as vice president, there’s nothing that you have promised as a candidate that you would — that you wouldn’t take off the table because of this financial crisis we’re in?

    PALIN: There is not. And how long have I been at this, like five weeks? So there hasn’t been a whole lot that I’ve promised, except to do what is right for the American people, put government back on the side of the American people, stop the greed and corruption on Wall Street.

    And the rescue plan has got to include that massive oversight that Americans are expecting and deserving. And I don’t believe that John McCain has made any promise that he would not be able to keep, either.

    Transcript from CNN.

  390. Bagelsan said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:20

    Palin talking about how teh gayz suck, and then basically turning around and talking about how Iran hates us for our tolerance, cracked me up so hard! Ahmenijhad’s like, “bitch, please! At least give me a nicer shout-out if you’re going to copy my talking points!”

  391. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:21

    MzNicky, I must say you must have had some pretty low expectations to describe Sarah’s performance as ‘unembrassing’.

    Well, she didn’t climb on the lectern, hike up her skirt and yell “I HAVE BADGERS IN MY PO-PO!!! BADGERS, I TELL YOU!!!”

    So there’s that.

  392. J— said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:23

    I’m anxious to hear the cryptozoological perspective on this debate.

  393. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:23

    PALIN: There is not. And how long have I been at this, like five weeks? So there hasn’t been a whole lot that I’ve promised, except to do what is right for the American people, put government back on the side of the American people, stop the greed and corruption on Wall Street.

    Oh Gwen, it’s cool, I don’t have to scale anything back cuz all I had to offer were some meaningless platitudes. And those are free!

  394. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:25

    linky, please to the cnn transcripts?

  395. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:25

    I thought the answer to the “Have you changed your opinion on anything, like, ever?” question was just incredible.

    “Me? Never! I’ve had my eyelids krazy glued open so that I can’t blink. Do you hear that! I CAN’T FUCKING BLINK!”

    It might have been as close to the badgers thing as she got all night.

  396. Righteous Bubba said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:25

    I’m anxious to hear the cryptozoological perspective on this debate.

    He doesn’t do politics. Which is sad, because drilling can’t be good for Bigfoot.

  397. JF Sebastian said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:25

    Please correct me if I’m wrong, but did Palin endorse Cheney’s view of the vice president’s special position and role?

    Probably her biggest mistake of the evening, and one the Obama camp should come back at hard.

    The discrepancy of the Mayor of Wasilla claiming expanded powers for her vice presidency ain’t gonna sit well with anybody.

  398. Piltdown Man said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:27

    I’m anxious to hear the cryptozoological perspective on this debate.

    Real, or imaginary?

  399. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:27

    Video anyone?

  400. Malfunctioning Palin-bot said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:27

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  401. handy said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:28

    Funny how CNN despite themselves were all doom and gloom for…JOHN MCCAIN!!! “Wow, Palin was great! Too bad it doesn’t help Grampa McSame.”

  402. J— said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:28

    Does the link in my comment (“CNN”) work, or is there a problem with it?

  403. JF Sebastian said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:30

    I thought the answer to the “Have you changed your opinion on anything, like, ever?” question was just incredible.

    Everybody in the room where I was watching turned to each other at that moment and said “she’s gonna say she didn’t give big enough tax cuts, and changed her mind about that.”

    And, sure enough, L’il Sarah Script-Keeper didn’t disappoint.

  404. (Lex) Palianated said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:30

    Humans are hard-wired not to trust smiles that do not involve the entire face, expecting deception and losing trust. Palin smiled almost the entire debate but rarely did her smiles make use of the musculature around the eyes, a key factor.

    This is what I get for marrying an Anthropologist.

  405. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:30

    Well, she didn’t trip up and fall down the staircase like she did in her interviews with Charlie and Katie. I suppose that’ll catapult her into the “win” category in the minds of those who view not totally fucking up as a win. Biden was calm, reasoned, appropriately incited when it was called for, hometown-y enough to match Ms. Sixpack’s putative persona, and his 35-years experience in big-time politics overshadowed that of the ex-mayor of Wasilla, Alaska.

    As feared, the MSM will now trumpet her Second Coming for being so well-trained that she didn’t make a total fool of herself. Yep, that’s what this country needs as a VP to McGrumpy: Someone Who Can Sometimes Not Appear to be a Total Nitwit.

  406. Piltdown Man said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:31

    How do you build up infrastructure while reining in spending?

    With imaginary bridges. imiginary badgers.

    ftfy

  407. EnfantTerrible said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:31

    To paraphrase Aaron Copeland, the difference between Joe Biden and Sarah Palin is the difference between watching a great statesman walking down the street and watching an actor playing the role of a great statesman walking down the street.

  408. bayville said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:31

    To summarize, I think the Biden-Malkin debate is, thankfully, over.

  409. PeeJ said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:34

    I didn’t have enough gin to keep up. Knew I should have bought another couple quarts.

    Anyway, I’m disappointed she didn’t drop her panties and take a dump onstage. I figured that would be the only thing, the bar having been set so low, that would make this a FAIL for her in the eyes of the edia and the tighty assed righties.

    On the other hand, dropping her panties and taking a dump onstage would have been only a small tick below hew actual performance. I see another good bump in the pools for our side.

  410. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:36

    Well, she didn’t trip up and fall down the staircase like she did in her interviews with Charlie and Katie. I suppose that’ll catapult her into the “win” category in the minds of those who view not totally fucking up as a win.

    yeah, well, now she should be holding press conferences.

  411. henry lewis said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:36

    I read somewhere else that she said “”How long have I been at this? Five Weeks?”

    If they had been really smart (they=mccain’s geniuses), they would have secretly tapped Palin in January and coached her on the sly until August.

    Wait, maybe they did.

  412. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:37

    Palin smiled almost the entire debate but rarely did her smiles make use of the musculature around the eyes, a key factor.

    That’s what was giving me the whole “second rate newsdesk” feeling. Totally plastic. She threw in the occasional head bob and a little wink now and then, but it all came off as contrived.

    What has it come to when “the serious people” can look at her as potentially becoming President and not just screaming WTF! at the top of their lungs?

  413. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:37

    Does the link in my comment (”CNN”) work, or is there a problem with it?

    missed that one…sorry.

  414. Living on rabbits and Kool-Aid said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:38

    You know, viewed from across a border (Close the 49th parallel, etc.!) it’s hard to see it anything other than farce. Who won, who didn’t win, blah blah blah. This was like watching a smart, seasoned, experienced politician debate somebody from the high school debating team. Just fucking pathetic.

  415. Righteous Bubba said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:39

    Does the link in my comment (”CNN”) work, or is there a problem with it?

    Works. Heavy load on the server I think.

  416. PeeJ said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:40

    I’ll give her this: On the rare occasions when the question wasn’t entirrely anticipated and coached to her, she was ver consistent. She consistenly answered the question she wanted to be asked.. So she’s improved dramatically. I’d rate her now as just a 1/16 of a hair above totally incompetent.

  417. henry lewis said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:40

    Palin has to be failing and flailing.

    She is made of FLAIL.

  418. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:40

    Video anyone?

    It looks like cspan has it.

  419. HTML Mencken said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:40

    Terry “The Greater Moran” is gushing over her now.

    I even wore my lucky “Go Bare… in Delaware” t-shirt for this debate. Biden won, but Palin was less crazy and stupid than I’d hoped.

    But the Cubs are getting the shit beat out of them, so I’m still pretty happy this eve (Cubs’ fans delicious tears of anguish sustain my soul).

  420. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:42

    http://www.c-span.org/

    If slitting your wrists isn’t your cup of tea…

  421. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:44

    Terry the moran was gushing over her before the debate, I’m sure. It’s the same gush.

  422. PeeJ said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:48

    Gaaaawwwwdd. Aside from the voice that drills humongous ragged holes in my head, I can’t stand that goddamn implanted smile. Reminds me of Jack Nicholson in Batman.

    Say, maybe she IS….

  423. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:51

    I found the transcripts. Interesting that the entire time she called them “John McCain” and “Barack Obama,” – even calling Obama “Barack” at least once.

    She didn’t called them Senators ever. I think that’s odd for someone not to use their title. In the case of McCain, it’s almost like she considers his full name a Brand Name she’s trying to sell.

    Despite the “Can I call you Joe?” she didn’t – she called Biden “Senator Biden” almost always… except for the canned “say it aint so Joe.” I didn’t see it, so I’m curious – did that old chesnut play, or did it go over like a lead balloon?

    Love that Biden stayed on the “Governor Palin” straight and narrow.

  424. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:51

    cspan videos won’t work for me.

  425. Lonny Martello said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:52

    SARA PALING HAS BEEN TAKING DEBEATING LESSONS FROM FREQUENT SADLY NO COMMENTOR COACH MEYER URBANIST IN THE VEIN HOPE THAT BABBLING GIBBERESH WILL CAUSE CORNFUSION IN TEH FUCHING FERRETS LONG ENOUGH FOR HER TO DON HER POLER BEAR PELT AND GRAB HER MOOSE FEMUR SPEAR AND LAUNCH A SHREEKING ATTACK. HAVING ALREADY GANAWED HIM TO PEICES TEH FUCHING FERRETS WILL BE ABLE TO STEEL ANDREW SULLIVANS LEATHER UNDERPANTS AND WILL THEIRFORE BE WELL ARMORED AGAINST THE BLOWS OF A MOOSE SPEAR.

  426. MzNicky said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:52

    Dr. Mrs. Marita: I think you were kind to spare Mr. Dr. Mrs. Marita from this evening’s entertainment by selfishly hogging the laptop for work purposes. He’ll live longer for having missed it!

  427. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:53

    spoke too soon. now they’re working.

  428. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:54

    Pretty odd, too, that the She-Shrub spent the whole time running away from Bush, yet emulating him so much.

    So help me, If I have to spend another four years hearing “nuuukular”, I’m going to jump off a bridge.

  429. Righteous Bubba said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:54

    CORNFUSION

    Can’t beat that.

  430. Doctor Missus Marita said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:54

    Oh, he watched the debate. He was just unable to share his feelings about it.

    Poor guy.

  431. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:59

    can you think of a single issue, policy issue, in which you were forced to change a long-held view

    PALIN: Well, I didn’t get to veto as many line items as I wanted to in the budget.

    And she adds:
    “But on the major principle things, no, there hasn’t been something that I’ve had to compromise on, because we’ve always seemed to find a way to work together. Up there in Alaska, what we have done is, with bipartisan efforts, is work together and, again, not caring who gets the credit for what, as we accomplish things up there.”

    let me get this straight. she hasn’t had to compromise her principles (althought that wasn’t the question) because she’s bipartisan. Isn’t that a contradiction in terms?

    I guess it isn’t if you have no principles to compromise…

  432. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 5:59

    fuck, she opens with “go to a soccer game on a saturday”???

  433. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:01

    Say, maybe she IS….

    Nope. That’s Laura.

  434. D.N. Nation said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:01

    Palin was good, but here’s the problem- that was her ceiling. She connected with a good percent of the gee-howdy-folks routine (though that third-grade class line fuckin bombed), but the gap in command, especially on foreign policy, was just too evident. She might have resurrected her career by not self-destructing, but I don’t know if she saddled many undecideds to the McCain racehorse.

    Biden was a lot better than I expected, honestly. Most of the early polling shows him as winning the night, and I agree. And although Palin goes on ad nauseam about her family and her friends and small town this that and the other, the real my-family moment that resonates was Biden nearly losing it about his lost wife. That was some real shit, not the stuff of focus groups and Sucessories posters.

    But we’ll see if the voters agree. I actually thought McCain won Friday’s debate but no one else seemed to go that route, so.

  435. D.N. Nation said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:03

    I didn’t see it, so I’m curious – did that old chesnut play, or did it go over like a lead balloon?

    Lead balloon. Especially when she attached the ol’ Reagan (Reagan!) line to the end of it.

    The only line that really stirred the crowd tonight was Biden’s bridge to nowhere reference.

  436. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:04

    Oh, Lesley. I’m so sorry.

    I’m now imagining the slightly slackjawed expression of disbelief you must have.

    There’s more. Much more.

  437. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:06

    The only line that really stirred the crowd tonight was Biden’s bridge to nowhere reference.

    Which was fucking great. The audience that had “agreed to be polite”, read STFU, couldn’t help themselves on that one.

  438. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:09

    I’m looking forward to Tina Fey’s rendition of the Palin debate robot who condescends to the American electorate.

    She also treats Biden like some old doddering goat whose days as a senator must be over because he’s experienced. I mean she actually said “I appreciate your years in office but America’s looking for a new fresh face…” What the fuck?

    Her “darn right” ’s and sheeyucks ‘merica I’m a straight talker high school cheerleader routine isn’t going to persuade anyone IS IT? Good god.

  439. comsympinko said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:11

    Couldn’t watch.

    Palin’s “Marge Gunderson On Helium And Amyl Nitrate” voice forces me to read transcripts of her shit shoveling the following day.

    I’m certain it was icepicks-in-the-ears dreadful.

    Push a little further and all becomes blissful silence, not just the sound of this hellspawned harpy shrieking bible verses and Heartland platitudes.

  440. crossbuck said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:17

    PeeJ –
    Maybe just call her Rictus Spice.

  441. rorycalhoun said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:20

    She answered questions only she was able to hear.

    Was the diety talking to her?

    Just like W.

    Cool.

  442. crossbuck said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:21

    My mom watched this, and told me she acted like she was reading from a script and just kept repeating the same things over and over with no spontaneity. She was not impressed, and it didn’t change her opinion of her at all. I use her as a gauge of someone less politically involved than I am.

  443. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:23

    Precious Palin moment:

    “Patriotic is sayin’ ‘government yer not always the solution. In fact too often yer the problem.’ So government …get out of the way and let the private sector and our families grow and thrive and prosper.”

    I guess she slept through the last couple of weeks or maybe those “any” papers she reads don’t provide news.

  444. rorycalhoun said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:24

    SNL must be giddy.

    Four more weeks of this.

    BTW Cubs down by 9 in the 9th. TeeHee.

  445. handy said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:26

    Fargin’ Cubs, man!

  446. Eric (an halibut) said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:35

    God damn it all.

    This fuckin’ night, with Palin, AND the Cubs are getting their asses kicked?!?

    Is there no solace for the souls of slightly confused Irish-American persons from greater Chicago and their more confused progeny who still for some reason root for the Cubs?

    Damn it!

  447. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:36

    Biden may as well be debating K-Lo.

  448. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:39

    Maybe just call her Rictus Spice.

    Naaaahhhh, Bloody Bill Kristol has a lock on that one already.

  449. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:40

    Rectal Spice?

  450. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:42

    Biden may as well be debating K-Lo.

    Does anybody but the lowest information voter believe for a moment that McCain would somehow equal Change? Or that he’s Mr. Regulation?

    Saying it a million times doesn’t make it true.

  451. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:45

    She just said “senator OBiden” and “nucluar”

  452. Bagelsan said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:49

    So help me, If I have to spend another four years hearing “nuuukular”, I’m going to jump off a bridge.

    Well, calm down, jumping off a bridge will get you nowhere…

    (The horse being dead just keeps it still enough to beat.)

  453. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 6:50

    “yer plan is a white flag of surrender in EyeRack”

    um, she just lost the foreign policy debate.

  454. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 7:04

    “Say it ain’t so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let’s look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future. You mentioned education and I’m glad you did. I know education you are passionate about with your wife being a teacher for 30 years, and god bless her. Her reward is in heaven, right? I say, too, with education, America needs to be putting a lot more focus on that and our schools have got to be really ramped up in terms of the funding that they are deserving. Teachers needed to be paid more. I come from a house full of school teachers. My grandma was, my dad who is in the audience today, he’s a schoolteacher, had been for many years. My brother, who I think is the best schoolteacher in the year, and here’s a shout-out to all those third graders at Gladys Wood Elementary School, you get extra credit for watching the debate.”

    Without knowing the context, never in a million years would I guess that this quote was from a candidate who someday might be our president.

  455. Bagelsan said,

    October 3, 2008 at 7:05

    “yer plan is a white flag of surrender in EyeRack”

    um, she just lost the foreign policy debate.

    When she said that I literally turned to my friend and said “Gee, that’s funny, ’cause most of the military we’ve shipped over there is brown.

  456. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 7:09

    I just saw the bit where Biden was choking up about his family’s accident, followed by Miss Congeniality smiling at the camera and telling us all about her cool new boyfriend.

    What a sociopath. She didn’t even know how to pretend to acknowledge his loss.

  457. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 7:10

    After shitting all over Obama’s preference for a diplomatic approach to international relations, she says, in response to being asked about all the leaders who engaged in diplomacy in the past, including Rethugs:

    Henry Kissinger shared with me his passion for diplomacy and that’s what John McCain and I would engage in…

    Ahem. Oh dear.

    …but again with some of these dictators who hate ‘Merica and hate what we stand for with our freedoms, our democracy, our tolerance, our respect for women’s rights; those who would try to destroy what we stand for cannot be met with just sitting down on a presidential level as Brock Obama said he would do. That is beyond bad judgement.”

    [Geez, for a moment I thought she was describing dictator Bush.]

    then

    …diplomacy is very important, first and foremost that is what we would engage in but diplomacy is hard work by serious people. It’s lining up clear objectives and having yer friends and yer allies ready to back yee up there.”

  458. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 7:13

    btw, no spelling error in “Brock” because that’s how she pronounces Barack’s name. It’s infuriating. I hate her voice and her refusal to clearly pronounce words. It has nothing to do with her accent. It’s sheer laziness. I also think she’s laying on the hayseed act extra thick in the hopes that people won’t notice her lack of intelligence.

  459. g said,

    October 3, 2008 at 7:15

    I hate her voice and her refusal to clearly pronounce words. It has nothing to do with her accent. It’s sheer laziness.

    George Bush does that too.

  460. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 7:22

    The transcript won’t reflect her speaking voice. The editors will correct her hayseedisms.

    I just fucking hate her for saying just now, “I’m so glad you love Israel like me and John McCain. That’s good to hear.”

    Only a colossal bitch would stoop this low.

  461. justme said,

    October 3, 2008 at 7:36

    um, she just lost the foreign policy debate.

    And it showed.

    Biden’s answer on Iraq received the debate’s HIGHEST score

    Palin immediately followed with her “white flag of defeat” cheapshot, but it CRASHED like Monday’s stockmarket, PLUMMETING 35 points.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/2/201520/811/99/618231

    Maybe we’re not complete morons after all.

  462. Lesley said,

    October 3, 2008 at 7:50

    excellent, justme.

    she tanked all the way. even the stupid people recognize she’s an embarrassment and a phoney.

  463. mmm...lemonheads said,

    October 3, 2008 at 15:40

    About an hour post-debate, Fixed News had their text poll result screen crawl revealing that Palin won the debate by a margin of 86% to 14%.
    So did I miss it when Biden pulled his pants down and played the ukelele, singing “Yes, We Have No Bananas”?

    Of course, if Palin actually did that it would be hockey mom “realness”, doncha know.

    .

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