Sep
18

Sherlock Hoft and the Adventure of Black Peter




Posted at 19:15 by Tintin
ABOVE: Sherlock “Jim” Hoft

Sherlock Hoft, aka “The Gateway Pundit,” has broken out his detective cap, toy pipe and junior gumshoe magnifying glass and applied his super sleuthing skills to tracking down the malefactors who hacked Sarah Palin’s Yahoo email account. And guess who he’s discovered behind it? The scary Negro, that’s who!

Quoting one of the geniuses at RightPundits, who is playing Watson to Hoft’s Holmes, Hoft has this to say:

According to an internet security expert located in San Francisco, Gabriel Ramuglia, the Palin email hackers were careless and left a digital trail. That trail leads directly to a server site in Chicago which happens to be the city where all of Obama’s men plot their daily moves.

Now before you say “big fucking deal, Chicago’s a big city,” let me remind you that Obama had Bill Ayers slip LSD into the Chicago municipal water supply, which turned everyone in Chicago into an Obamazombie, each of whom acts only according to instructions that they receive from Obama HQ. So if something happens in Chicago, Obama did it.

Sherlock Hoft and his trusty assistants at RightPundit clearly think that the hackers were in Chicago, but if you read the enitre interview with Ramuglia and not the portion that Hoft cites you’ll quickly see that either Hoft is functionally illiterate or he has turned his magnifying glass backwards. The missing part of the interview is bolded below:

Ramuglia got into the proxy business a few years ago, after schools began blocking access to an online game site he used to co-own. Pretty soon, people began using the proxy service to access YouTube, Gmail, MySpace, and dozens of other sites that are routinely blocked by IT departments.

To prevent abuse of the service – such as the occasional bomb threat or other illegal act that’s been known to happen – Ramuglia logs each user’s IP address, along with the time and web destination. …

The information at the moment is on a server at a Chicago colocation site owned by FDC Servers.

Yep. That’s right. The proxy service’s servers were in Chicago; the hackers could have been anywhere in the world where an Internet connection was available which is, you know, kinda the whole point of the Internet.

Coming up next: Sherlock Hoft proves that Obama personally engineered the stock market crash because Lehman Brothers has an office in the Chicago Loop.

84 Comments »

  1. SamFromUtah said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:20

    We can’t be sure about any of this until TechDude weighs in.

  2. Joshua said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:21

    These guys are clueless.

    Remember when, on CT Primary Day, Holy Joe’s website went down and they immediately started attacking Ned Lamont for it? Then when some people looked into it, it turned out Joe got a bargain basement hosting service (something like $75 a month) and was sharing the webserver with like 50 other sites?

    This reminds me of that. For some reason.

    But yea, the whole reason hackers use proxies is so that people don’t know where they are physically located.

  3. Jas said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:21

    I’ve got money on the IP address of the ‘hacker’ being linked to Karl Rove, honestly. This stinks even more than the BabyGate nonsense did. I’m glad to see most everyone outside the rightards leaving it pretty much alone.

  4. Chopped Liver™³²®© said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:24

    Colon Nation???

    What are we, a country of assholes?

    Oh, never mind.

  5. comsympinko said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:24

    “According to an internet security expert located in San Francisco, Gabriel Ramuglia, the Palin email hackers were careless and left a digital trail. That trail leads directly to a server site in Chicago which happens to be the city where all of Obama’s men plot their daily moves.”

    That’s right, folks. Obama is now officially a supervillian with a lair and computer-savvy minions who will stop at nothing to do his evil bidding.

    McCaptain POW and Wasilla Woman to the rescue!1!!!1

  6. Righteous Bubba said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:28

    Why did John McCain invent proxy servers?

  7. Amy Alkon's Testicles said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:29

    Clearly, it’s you Sadly, Pathetics who have done this. And I will chase you down.

    You are KNOWN to use proxies. Ergo, YOU did this. Cogito, ergo sum. Res ipsa loquitor.

  8. Snorghagen said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:30

    In addition, the Chicago city comptroller has been murdered again.

  9. El Cid said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:32

    I fear that the hackers may have made use of The Google. God knows how safe we are if the Google now serves the Islamosexual Caliphate!

  10. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:35

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    Just curious.

  11. Our Dead Selves said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:36

    Was that sarcasm?

    Fail.

  12. Ripley said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:36

    According to an internet security expert located in San Francisco

    Doesn’t he mean a gay, American hating, terrorist appeasing, child molesting LIBERAL!!!! internet security expert in San Francisco?.

  13. comsympinko said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:42

    Another thing to remember is that Chicago is beeeeg time sceeeeery, to paraphrase the GOPeeeeeeee candidate for VeeeeeeeePeeeeeeee.

    Think about it. It sounds foreign. Not like Des Moines or Cheyenne or Boise foreign (the Heartland do love its surrender-monkey names).

    Barack Foreign. shi-KA-go. ba-RAWK. Practically the same damn thing.

    And that’s where they held the German Gay Pride Parade in that sinful Ferris Bueller.

    The pizza has actual tomatoes in it. And no tomatos.

    There’s scary things from there: Al Capone, the 1968 DNC, the Super Bowl Shuffle.

    The sports teams have scary names: Bulls, Blackhawks, White Sox.

    It just goes on. Chicago is a festering sore in the side of Heartland Jeebus, the spear wound He has to endure during His suffering along with the wrist wounds of New York and Washington and the foot wounds of San Francisco and Los Angeles.

    But Heartland Jeebus will rise to cleanse and heal Himself of these wounds and again teach them who believe to sell their garments to purchase swords and onward He will lead them to glory on earth and in heav’n.

    Or something. I’m not from there and didn’t pay a lot of attention during Sunday School.

  14. El Cid said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:46

    I think people’s personal e-mail accounts should not be hacked, this is a violation of privacy, and for this reason conservatives should stop destroying 4th Amendment privacy protections.

  15. actor212 said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:48

    Elementary, my dear Clif, if indeed, that is your real name! The hackers COULD have been in Nigeria, say, or Kenya, or Tunisia!

    Why do you hate America so?

  16. t4toby said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:48

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    Someone should have been more careful.

    But if Palin isn’t hiding anything, what does it matter? &lt/FISA Debate&gt

  17. Jas said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:49

    Could be wrong, but I suspect that most here think that

    a) her email was legitimately hacked, either by some liberal script kiddie with too much time on his hands, or by Karl Rove’s forces of darkness
    b) it was a stupid thing to do, and pointless, regardless of who did it, and ought to be prosecuted as any other hacking offense
    c) Palin is the biggest pinhead in office today, for using an insecure web-based email system for government business – why was she doing that? Oh yeah, so that what she said in email message wasn’t kept around for any future audits.

  18. actor212 said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:49

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    Sleep with dogs…

  19. Righteous Bubba said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:50

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    I am unsurprised given that she was trying to hide government email from scrutiny by using personal accounts. The people who broke in are bad bad people I guess.

  20. t4toby said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:50

    Stupid preview!

    </FISA Debate>

  21. Gary Ruppert said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:52

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    About the same as you probably feel about George Bush’s NSA tapping your phone conversations.

  22. Buskertype said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:52

    I’m about fifty fifty on whether it was some dumbass punk who thinks he’s doing the world a favor, or some dumbass republican hired hand who thinks he’s going to provoke enough of a shitstorm to let McCain and his team of ratfuckers slip into the whitehouse unnoticed.

  23. robert green said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:53

    one thing that pisses me off about google mail is that you can have it encrypted (and have all of your google stuff safe–calendar reader and so on), but they don’t tell you that anywhere. you have to dig around to find that fact out.

    also, it’s nice that some nonsense has replaced my wife’s nonsense as the pointless-whingeing of the day. onward to someone stealing obama’s ipod or whatever is tomorrow’s “don’t worry about the economy” news.

  24. Sarcastro said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:55

    That’s right, folks. Obama is now officially a supervillian with a lair and computer-savvy minions who will stop at nothing to do his evil bidding.

    Dag yo! He got all of Chi-town as his lair? And all I got was this crappy volcano on an uninhabited island in the middle of nowhere…

  25. Chris said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:55

    Sarah Palin has a fucking yahoo email address?

  26. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:55

    Michelle Malkin has the real story:

    Sarah Palin’s email account was hacked by one person. Not a group.

    This person read her emails, then posted the username and password on /b/. This happened at about 4 in the morning on Tuesday. The idea was that the sea of Anonymous /b/tards would download the emails, upload porn, and cause all manner of mischief. Anonymous is not a group of hackers. Anonymous is more like gremlins. They are hyperactive adolescents in search of amusement and joy, which they often get by upsetting people and making messes. That’s what was happening here. Anonymous did not hack the account. A hacker tried to throw Sarah Palin to Anonymous. Not all of Anonymous was having it. One person threw a crowbar in the works. Other /b/tards were displeased to miss a chance at the lulz. The moderators stepped in. The thread was deleted.

    Later, other individuals created threads reposting screencaps of emails and the inbox, and put together a collection of these files. All mentions of these were purged by the moderators. So then some bright /b/tards decided to email what little stuff they had to the media.

    That’s pretty much it.

    This afternoon, in a thread that was later deleted, an individual claiming to be the original poster gave his account of what happened. I’ve attached screencaps. Here’s the text. The original poster used the name “rubico.” The linked email address for the poster was rubico10@yahoo.com.

    This is what rubico said:

    rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:57:22 No.85782652

    Hello, /b/ as many of you might already know, last night sarah palin’s yahoo was “hacked” and caps were posted on /b/, i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story.

    In the past couple days news had come to light about palin using a yahoo mail account, it was in news stories and such, a thread was started full of newfags trying to do something that would not get this off the ground, for the next 2 hours the acct was locked from password recovery presumably from all this bullshit spamming.

    after the password recovery was reenabled, it took seriously 45 mins on wikipedia and google to find the info, Birthday? 15 seconds on wikipedia, zip code? well she had always been from wasilla, and it only has 2 zip codes (thanks online postal service!)

    the second was somewhat harder, the question was “where did you meet your spouse?” did some research, and apparently she had eloped with mister palin after college, if youll look on some of the screenshits that I took and other fellow anon have so graciously put on photobucket you will see the google search for “palin eloped” or some such in one of the tabs.

    I found out later though more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on “Wasilla high” I promptly changed the password to popcorn and took a cold shower…

    >> rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727

    this is all verifiable if some anal /b/tard wants to think Im a troll, and there isn’t any hard proof to the contrary, but anyone who had followed the thread from the beginning to the 404 will know I probably am not, the picture I posted this topic with is the same one as the original thread.

    I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family

    I then started a topic on /b/, peeps asked for pics or gtfo and I obliged, then it started to get big

    Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this shit ever got to the FBI I was fucked, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapidshit all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

    Then the white knight fucker came along, and did it in for everyone, I trusted /b/ with that email password, I had gotten done what I could do well, then passed the torch , all to be let down by the douchebaggery, good job /b/, this is why we cant have nice things

    The “white knight fucker” was the /b/tard who thought that going through Sarah Palin’s email wasn’t cool. He logged in, changed the password, and sent an email to a friend of Palin’s warning her and letting her know the new password. Unfortunately, he then posted a screenshot of this email to let the other /b/tards know their fun was over. He failed to blank the password, and they all tried to log in and change the password — which tripped the automated Yahoo! freeze. Since then, the account has been deleted. “Rapidshit” refers to rapidshare.com — i.e., rubico wanted to download the emails, put them into one file, and put that file up on rapidshare for /b/tards and the world at large to download. But he panicked, or didn’t know how to download the emails, and so pawned that task off on Anonymous, which he didn’t realize wasn’t monolithic and in his favor.

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/17/the-story-behind-the-palin-e-mail-hacking/

  27. Buskertype said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:56

    I really do think the shitstorm could be dangerous, even though there will be no substance to it, and about a million reasons why it is hilariously ironic to hear republicans screeching about privacy. “picking on Palin” is a potentially very impactful meme.

  28. Chopped Liver™³²®© said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:59

    Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:55

    Michelle Malkin has the real story:

    BWA HA HA!!one1!

  29. OB-GYN Kenobi said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:00

    Clearly, the hacking of Governor Palin’s e-mail points to the need for more stringent security standards for all forms of electronic communication, including wireless and wireline telephones, e-mail, SMS, etc.

    Of course, Republicans don’t care about any of that because seekrit messigez are always evidence of terrists in our midst. If Governor Palin sent some e-mail messages, surely she intended that anyone with a national security concern should be able to read them without a warrant, just like President Bush intended.

    If you need to keep a message secret, just whisper it in jebus’ ear and he will go whisper it in the ear of the person you want to receive it.

  30. Loneoak said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:03

    I think she had it coming. If you try to subvert your duties as an office holder by conducting state business on private email, then the people have a right to take back control. Hacking like this is a pretty predictable outcome for anyone with a smidgen of tech savvy, so it’s substantially her fault for not using proper security as a public figure. If it had just been her personal email, then I would feel it was really inappropriate (but nonetheless predictable).

    Why did John McCain invent proxy servers?

    Why did he invent Chicago?

  31. t4toby said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:03

    You’re a thread late on that one, Ringo.

    Obviously, you are not Aware of All Internet Traditions.

  32. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:04

    t4toby said,

    You’re a thread late on that one, Ringo.
    ——————————————————————-

    Dagnabit!

  33. Snorghagen said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:06

    Ringo – Babble more concisely, please. Keep your posts brief or no one will bother to read you.

    Of course, they may not bother anyway.

  34. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:06

    Speaking of old news – I just found out today that someone’s FC’d TTFAF.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5GpRJItqjw

    I mean WTF?!?! That”s fucking retarded.

  35. g said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:07

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    gosh, let me refer that question to a right-winger I happen to know whose been very vocal on the question of the government’s NSA program.

    Answer: “She didn’t have anything to hide, did she? What’s the problem?”

  36. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:13

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    Honestly? I don’t like it. I think it fucking sucks. Also, I think it was and is easily predictable. A fucking Yahoo account? Way to conduct state business there Mooseburger. i.e. I wouldn’t endorse Anonymous or whoever it was that broke into the account for VP unless the alternative someone stoopid enough to be using a fucking free-web-based-email-account for fucking government business.

  37. christian h. said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:20

    The TRUTH: a former Chicago City Comptroller was thrown out a window on the 87th floor of the Hancock tower (twice, in fact). His files – containing, among other secrets, Palin’s Yahoo password – mysteriously vanished from his house. Connect the dots, people!!!11!!!

  38. Bigby said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:21

    Well Ringo, what we think is that Sarah Palin will pull a “how dare they?!” and that she rightly deserves to have this incident shoved up her, and the rest of the GOPs asses.
    In the name of the bullshit known as “national security”, punks like your Gods Bush and Cheney wanted to read and wiretap EVERYONEs EVERYTHING with no restraint whatsoever (even the chickenshit “19000 requests since 1980, 18999 approved” FISA laws). They wanted to get dirt on political enemies. They wanted to get useless banter from incompetent wannabes they could use to pump up the Homeland Security Advisory System (coincidentally during lulls in The Chimp’s popularity).

    In short, they wanted to wipe their asses with The Constitution so they could maintain fear and keep power. And to erase any evidence of this they did things like use yahoo.com and RNC.org accounts for THE PEOPLE’S BUSINESS to avoid transparency.

    Within weeks this will die down and you asshole wingers will a) be pissed off that anyone dared try on Palin what she can’t wait to try out on her enemies and b) really want Palin to have the ability to try it out on her “enemies”.
    You have no consistency. Only cowardice and desire that your “Tribe” hold all power by any means necessary.

  39. Joe Max said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:23

    Ringworm the Grungeworm chunked:

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    Just curious.

    OK, I’ll feed the troll, I’m bored…

    Speaking only for myself, not the esteemed hosts of S,N!, I think it was stupid for a number of reasons.

    - It was stupid because it just feeds the persecution complexes of wingnuts. Memo to hacker: you’re not helping.

    - It was even more stupid of Palin to use a fookin’ Yahoo account to do government business. It’s a Rovian tactic to duck personal responsibility and avoid subpoenas from law enforcement agencies. I thought Republicans were all about personal responsibility and law ‘n’ order, but I suppose that’s as dead as Republicans believing in fiscal responsibility and in the Powell Doctrine.

    - Therefore I have little sympathy for her, as she should have used her state government account exclusively for government business, which has far better security in place to stop hackers.

    - Invasions of personal privacy by the government are what liberals generally denounce. The government has coercive power and the monopoly on violence that some 4aKKe3r d00d in a basement lacks. So your obvious attempt at rhetorically cornering liberals who denounce privacy invasion by the government by falsely equating being hacked to being spied on by the FBI is equally stupid. It’s just like how wingnuts falsely equate people protesting loudly against right-wing idiots as denying said idiots’ their “constitutional free speech rights”, and then screeching about how hypocritical liberals are.

    So you may now proceed to screech about how hypocritical liberals are, which was the whole point of your set-up “question” in the first place.

    Get on it, Ringo – these rats aren’t going to fuck themselves you know.

  40. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:35

    The TRUTH: a former Chicago City Comptroller who was thrown out a window on the 87th floor of the Hancock tower (twice, in fact).

    So that’s what happened to Troofy!

  41. Bigby said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:46

    It’s all in where a comma is placed, D-K W…

  42. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:48

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    Hey Ringo, I answered your question above. Wanna return the favor? Same topic.

    How do you feel about the hacking of countless and untold email and telephone correspondances without the use of warrants?

  43. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:50

    Bigby,

    So using commas correctly willimprove my Guitar Hero game?

    Seriously, TTFAF – FC.

  44. g said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:53

    I think it speaks to Palin’s commitment to National Security that she conducted government business on a Yahoo account. That, my friends, is experience we can all believe in.

  45. Ripley said,

    September 18, 2008 at 20:56

    Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 18, 2008 at 19:55

    Michelle Malkin has the real story:

    The internets just threw up in its mouth.

  46. Brady's bum knee said,

    September 18, 2008 at 21:26

    You’d think Obama would be smart enough not to use his home computer in Chicago to hack into Palin’s Yahoo account. The slightest little slip-up like that and the right wing will nail you to the wall. Obama doesn’t have a chance with his Chicago dirty tricks campaign against brilliant minds like this.

  47. Dan Someone said,

    September 18, 2008 at 21:34

    Here’s the real answer: The whole thing sucks. It was a stupid stunt for whoever broke into the account (I don’t say “hacked,” because if the Malkin Thing has the story right, it wasn’t truly hacked). It was a crime (I believe), and if they get the guy, he should be prosecuted for it and if convicted, he should be sentenced.

    However, by using and encouraging her staff to use personal email accounts for government-related email to keep them away from the prying eyes of the public who pays their salaries and who have a legitimate interest in knowing what they are saying and doing about official business, she made it essentially inevitable that something like this would happen.

    On the other hand, if there’s anything in the released emails that shows she was conducting state business “off the books,” then that’s pretty much going to overshadow the justified outrage and the overblown fauxtrage that we’re seeing right now. As it should.

  48. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    September 18, 2008 at 21:56

    DS,

    I don’t know if you’ve seen the screenshots or not. On the one with the weird Counter-Strike chat window there’s a list of emails that includes one to Ruaro, Randall P (GOV) with a subject heading of Draft letter to Govenor Schwatzenegger / Container Tax. Which may well be totally innocuous – perhaps a LOLcat or some funny joke mail or something.

    Additionally, there are a bunch of things marked Re: (no subject) including delivery receipts – mostly to Ivy Frye, one of her aides. So there’s definitely enough there to support a reasonable suspicion that Alaska’s state government was being administered from Yahoo.com

  49. Bigby said,

    September 18, 2008 at 22:11

    I think most liberals agree that it was stupid and it sucked because liberals actually like privacy and cons do not. They say they want the Government to “get off our backs” then in the next breath tell us there “is no right to privacy in The Constitution”. Cons want Roe and Griswold and Lawrence and Bowers overturned but boo hoo hoo, how dare you find that Palin used Yahoo for government business she didn’t want The People to know about. IOW, “Ok for me, but not for thee”. They’ve been telling us for 8 yrs now we were terror loving cowards for not giving Bush every power under the sun and in the next breath howl with rage that someone, somewhere ‘violated’ poor, little, tiny, helpless, Sarah Palin. Screw ‘em.

    Basically, we’re supposed think this is an eeeevil act, unilaterally disarm, stay home and not support Obama when not even official government acts to do this shit by BushCo lost him an ounce of support from ‘libertarians’ and ‘conservatives’. Phony seething Fauxtrage.

  50. Green Eagle said,

    September 18, 2008 at 22:30

    So many comments, and not a single person seems to have a clue about this. And we are supposed to be the internet savvy crowd.

    “We are anonymous

    We are legion

    We do not forgive
    We do not forget….”

  51. jim said,

    September 18, 2008 at 22:40

    That first quote is pure gold – “the city where Obama’s men plot all of their daily moves” – holy shit!
    Obama is DOCTOR NO!!!11!1!

    So how do you folks here at ‘Sadly,No!’ feel about the hacking of Palin’s personal email.

    Needs more question-mark.

    Trying to give a shit … failing. If I was a Yank I’d be just a TEENY bit more worried about getting my rights to Habeas Corpus back sometime during my lifetime.

    But seeing the “if you have nothing to hide, why worry” set suddenly turning into butthurt privacy-warriors overnight is sure mighty damn hilarious.

    Oh my. Oh my my.

    Michelle Malkin has the real story

    This may just be some of the absolute funniest shit I’ve ever seen here – & this place brings the 24-karat Ha-Ha all on its own.

    On the other hand, if there’s anything in the released emails that shows she was conducting state business “off the books,” then that’s pretty much going to overshadow the justified outrage and the overblown fauxtrage that we’re seeing right now.

    Don’t bet on it … correct me if I’m wrong, but I think there’s still that pesky little law in the US about illegal evidence not being admissible in court. The banal content makes me think this wasn’t Rove – using his usual reptilian cunning, he’d've put out just enough vital material to scuttle Troopergate, without unduly compromising Sarahcuda’s Good Wholesome Hockey Mom rep … & I’ve yet to hear of ANY dirt being part of the leaked material.

  52. jim said,

    September 18, 2008 at 22:42

    “illegal evidence” = “illegally obtained evidence”

    Pleh.

  53. D.N. Nation said,

    September 18, 2008 at 22:54

    Two things:

    1) Gateway Idiot is, IMO, the dumbest wingnut we deal with. That’s a huge statement, I know…but someone’s gotta be the dumbest. And it’s him.

    2) No Troof sightings lately. Pussy.

  54. WereBear said,

    September 18, 2008 at 22:59

    As an illustration of why it’s bone-stupid to conduct government business through Yahoo!, it’s spot on.

  55. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    September 18, 2008 at 23:00

    Yeah, the fauxtrage – amusing and all but “Michelle Malkin is a hypocrite” is not exactly news.

    Fact of the matter is that Sarah Palin’s privacy was violated. That’s wrong. Just because she was breaking the law and acting obscenely stupid doesn’t make privacy violation okay. For example, if the police illegally searched the Trongsa palace and found my illegal stash of giant pandas, I’d be fucking upset.

    But here are the important differences.

    1. Her email was broken into by some guy. Not the fucking NSA or the local police department. Some guy acting on his or her own initiative got into her email account. You can’t stop people from trying that sort of shit on their own.

    2. A fucking Yahoo! account. Seriously. Fucking Yahoo! – what an incredible secure way to conduct state business.

  56. Dragon-King Wangchuck said,

    September 18, 2008 at 23:03

    Also, has anyone blamed this on Ned Lamont yet?

  57. Smut Clyde said,

    September 18, 2008 at 23:18

    I think there’s still that pesky little law in the US about illegal evidence not being admissible in court
    Evidence illegally gathered by law enforcement can be excluded. However, if some private citizen happens to discover Dragon-King Wangchuck’s stash of pandas while burgling the Trongsa palace, is overwhelmed by a public-spirited sense of outrage, and anonymously sends photographs and fur samples to the media and to the police, that would be admissible.

  58. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 18, 2008 at 23:44

    Via Gateway Pundit: FATHER OF HACKER Is Tennessee Dem State Rep!!!!! …Update: Name- David Kernell …Update: He’s Been Contacted by Feds!

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/father-of-hacker-is-tennessee-dem-state.html

  59. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 18, 2008 at 23:49

    Seems they’ve found out who the hacker is, turns out he’s the son of a Tennessee Democtatic State Rep.

  60. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 18, 2008 at 23:51

    His name is David Kernell and he’s been contacted by the Feds.

  61. Clif said,

    September 18, 2008 at 23:57

    Seems they’ve found out who the hacker is, turns out he’s the son of a Tennessee Democtatic State Rep.

    More proof of the vast-left wing conspiracy being run out of a dorm room by a 20-year-old.

  62. Simba B said,

    September 18, 2008 at 23:59

    Seems they’ve found out who the hacker is, turns out he’s the son of a Tennessee Democtatic State Rep.

    Yep, the right wing cyberstalker brigade is salivating already

    State Rep. Mike Kernell confirmed Thursday that his son, a University of Tennessee-Knoxville student, is at the center of heated Internet discussion into the hacking of the personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

    Kernell, a Memphis Democrat, confirmed that it is his 20-year-old son, David, who is being widely named on Internet blogs and chatrooms in connection with an unfolding story about Palin’s hacked e-mail accounts.

    The FBI and the Secret Service started a formal investigation on Wedesday into the hacking.

    So in other words, he’s being contacted because the right-wing wankosphere has worked itself up into such a fever pitch that they’ve attracted the attention of the feds to this kid.

    Well done, guys. You’ve once again gone for the easy and pathetic take-down. The kid probably had an indirect role, or was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, but you geniuses won’t rest until you have a victim.

    Get Malkin on his countertops, stat!

  63. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:00

    Heh.

  64. Simba B said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:05

    Heh.

    Fuck you.

    No, really. Fuck you.

    If there’s one thing that really works me up about the rightbloggers, it’s this hive-minded stalking that they carry out. You motherfuckers are so desperate for reality to back you up, even once, that when you find someone that confirms what you want to believe even a small bit, you pounce. See Alkon, Amy. But this isn’t abstract political opinion here, you’re fucking with real people here. I don’t condone the hacking nor anything that this kid might have done in connection with it, but he’s a fucking kid. At 20, most kids don’t have a real good concept of real-world consequences. This really is the explanation for most of the 4chan/Anonymous stuff that you see. But you fuckers know better, and you twist the screws anyway, and that makes you worthless scum.

    Fuck off.

  65. sagra said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:09

    Palin email hack = More drama for the Mama!

  66. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:14

    Simba B,

    I’m tempted to say “heh” again, but I wouldn’t want you to go kick your dog or hurt someone….so I’ll just go fuck off like you suggest.

    Adios.

  67. Simba B said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:15

    The projection of right wingers never ceases to amaze me. Notice the way that Ringo assumes that everyone else resorts to violence against animals and people when angry, just like he does.

    Explains a lot, really.

  68. MzNicky said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:20

    Wait, we have a “Democtat” down here in our glorious border state legislature? Who knew!

  69. Gary Ruppert said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:23

    Adios

    The fact is, get the fuck out of here. This is my trolling territory, and I won’t have you poaching in it.

  70. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:28

    Simba,

    I’m not the angry one here. I haven’t called anyone here names. I haven’t used profanity (well actually I just did by quoting you)….and I’m not even a rightwinger.

    If anyone is projecting, it’s you.

  71. OB-GYN Kenobi said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:29

    Family members are off limits. Senator McCain said so, and Governor Palin did too.

    So hands offsies, Repigs. All your private communications are belong to us.

  72. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:29

    Gary Ruppert said,

    The fact is, get the fuck out of here. This is my trolling territory, and I won’t have you poaching in it.
    ———————————————————

    All yours buddy…I’m out of here.

  73. MzNicky said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:31

    Wait, I thought they tracked this nefarious deed down to ObamaCentral in Chi-town.

    And I resent the implication that any of our students here at UT would “hack” email. Download music illegally, yeah; we’re No. 1! We’re No. 1! on that score.

  74. MzNicky said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:31

    Ringworm: Are you still here? I thought you’d agreed to fuck off.

  75. Ringo the Gringo said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:33

    MzNicky said,

    Ringworm: Are you still here? I thought you’d agreed to fuck off.
    ————————————————

    Sorry, it usually takes me a few minutes to fuck off.

    I’m finished now.

  76. MzNicky said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:43

    From our local newspaper’s blog:

    NASHVILLE – State Rep. Mike Kernell said today that he was aware of Internet rumors about his son being the subject of speculation that he accessed the personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

    Asked whether he or his son, a student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville, had been contacted by authorities investigating the break-in of Palin’s account, he responded: “Me, no.”

    As far as his 20-year-old son, David, he said: “I can’t say. That doesn’t mean he has or hasn’t (been contacted by investigators).”

    Emphasis added. (No word on whether Mr. Kernell the elder is aware of all Internet traditions.)

    Ringworm, I’m gonna have to give you an “F” in Reporting 101. You’ve said “They found out who the hacker was.” No reality-based confirming sources, and you opened your publication up for a way-big libel suit. FAIL.

  77. MzNicky said,

    September 19, 2008 at 0:44

    Sorry, it usually takes me a few minutes to fuck off. I’m finished now.

    Good. Bye. And ewww.

  78. Gary Ruppert said,

    September 19, 2008 at 1:34

    The fact is, You…are A Idiot!

  79. Cuppa Invader "Jrod" Palin said,

    September 19, 2008 at 2:05

    I can already hear it:

    Democrat’s son breaks into a yahoo email account = all Democrats are freedom hating criminals!

    Republican’s 17-year-old daughter gets pregnant = only Republicans can protect family values!

  80. Snorghagen said,

    September 19, 2008 at 2:58

    Ringworm:

    I haven’t used profanity.

    Well, get with the fucking program.

  81. Our Dead Selves said,

    September 19, 2008 at 3:24

    A little late to this bbq, but:

    Seems they’ve found out who the hacker is, turns out he’s the son of a Tennessee Democtatic State Rep… His name is David Kernell and he’s been contacted by the Feds.

    Can someone explain to me how “talking to the feds” automatically makes one guilty? I mean, shit, I thought that’s what the “jury of your peers” bizness was all about. I hope you read this, Gringo, ‘cos you’re a fucking loser.

    I love wingnuts. It is so easy to be guilty if you’re the wrong color. (Black or blue.)

  82. rotten mcdonald said,

    September 19, 2008 at 5:40

    Well, the Palins won’t talk to the investigators on the Troopergate affair, so obviously they are innocent.

  83. Cap'n Doctorb said,

    September 19, 2008 at 22:09

    And never ye mind, that a scalawag who leaves a trail very often means t’ leave a trail, arr.

  84. Vagrant said,

    September 20, 2008 at 6:19

    It takes a special brand of stupid to pull a high profile stunt like this through a proxy that’s subject to subpoena by US courts.

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