Sep
11

President Footnote?




Posted at 8:13 by D. Aristophanes

A lot of people are saying what Jay Cost of RealClearPolitics says here:

Obama On His Heels

… Nobody would have predicted this on June 3rd. That was the day Obama boldly stood in the Xcel Energy Center and proclaimed an exciting new moment in American politics. Meanwhile McCain, sweating profusely, stood in front of a green screen and gave a rambling, disjointed speech. The contrast in messages was stark. Three months later, it’s just as stark – but now it’s Obama that’s sweating and McCain that’s exciting. What a turnaround.

Except that it’s not ‘McCain that’s exciting’. It’s Palin. And as we wait for Charles Gibson to do whatever he’s going to do in ABC’s upcoming Palin interview, it’s not even Palin that’s exciting. It’s the idea of Palin that’s exciting.

McCain himself has been relegated to a footnote in this campaign. He’s got his bump in the polls now, but can this really go on until election day? Has a footnote ever been elected president?

71 Comments »

  1. Gary Ruppert said,

    September 11, 2008 at 8:19

    Excuse me. The people are voting for McCain here. He’s the one leading Obama by 10.

    Don’t get snippy because your VP pick admitted that he wasn’t the best man for the job.

    The fact is that Sarah Palin has more governmental experience than Obama and more executive experience.

    Obama is getting grilled big time. His support for sex ad for toddlers may play well in San Francisco, but it sinks in real America.

    Obama doesn’t control the story here.

    1988 had a Democratic nominee who was very exciting, he had a big lead, his opponent picked a supposedly unqualified VP. he got hit with ads about his record, and he lost.

    2008 = 1988 part two.

    Michael Barackakis is going down. America wants a President who is proud to be American.

  2. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 8:24

    Has a footnote ever been elected president?

    That has something to do with Teddy Roosevelt, no?

    But seriously, I recently sat thru Spiderman 3 and Pirates Of The Carribean 3 and Die Hard 4, all dreadful awful overlong movies put together by committee, “Here is a list of explosions and special effects, write up a couple of lines to tie it all together, doesn’t matter if it makes sense, the movie viewing public will pay.”

    Then I saw Bourne Ultimatum. Quick, clever, fun action movie. See nymlink.

  3. Benjamin said,

    September 11, 2008 at 8:29

    Leading Obama by 10 ?

    I guess your math is as good as the math of those who wrote McCain’s budget plan.

  4. Tim (The Other One) said,

    September 11, 2008 at 8:37

    Traveling up and down the West Coast via train these past two days, noticing the new “line” in the MSM print media:

    “Democrats taken aback by Palin popularity”

    A totally created meme out of thin air.

  5. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 8:39

    See nymlink
    Sorry, probably should have mentiond that you need to sit thru the commercial to see notbenaffleck. Of course, us common people know how to sit thru commercials, so, whatever.
    10

  6. islmfaoscist said,

    September 11, 2008 at 8:39

    He’s got his bump in the polls now, but can this really go on until election day?

    Bwaha, it won’t even last through the debates.

    Palin and her sidekick are going to get their heads torn off and fed to them as soon as they have to speak without a pocketful of talking points and a teleprompter. Palin already made a complete ass of herself the first time she went off script, trying to pretend she knew what FNMA stood for and could just fake her way through a couple sentences. Hilarious FAIL.

    Hell, if the Bush Recession weren’t tanking the market right now, I’d be looking to take deep positions in Comedy Central and Orville Redenbacher stocks.

  7. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 8:54

    …without a pocketful of talking points and a teleprompter…
    heh, you probably don’t watch the same tv as me.

    http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU
    http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=ThEAO0lt4Dw
    http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=yS4yf723kmY

  8. Max Power said,

    September 11, 2008 at 8:57

    You have to ask – how come McCain is being eclipsed by Palin like that? Is it an admission that he’s too old, to stuck in the past, doesn’t have the energy, or what? He’s supposed to be the candidate, but she’s just taken over the campaign completely. It’s all Palin, all the time.

    If he can’t run his own campaign, why does he think he can run the country?

    Now McCain is changing his schedule so he doesn’t campaign without her. Because she’s the one drawing the crowds. I’m waiting for the new bumper stickers “Palin/McCain ’08″.

    …and has anyone else noticed that the Republican fixation on Palin is more than a little creepy? As if the “Daddy Party” has “Mommy Issues”?

  9. krassen said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:02

    I am sorry, I have a really hard time accepting the timidness of the Obama campaign. Even this lipstick thing has a zero chance of working.
    I get it, they think it was very clever how they doped the Rethugs into this, so that Obama can come out of it looking all lofty and the bigger man. All the people that care already know that Obama’s goals and ideals are lofty.

    It’s the rest of the electorate that they need to go after. these folks don’t get the loftiness, all they care about is “oooooh-aaaaaah Obama called the nice hockey-mom lady a “pig”.

    Why not try something different? Why didn’t they jumped on yesterday’s “education” ad with something of the sort:

    “Why is John McCain against legislation that makes it harder on pedophiles? Why does John McCain want to help pedophiles? We know john mcCain has a “thing” for very young women. Does John McCain want to tell us something that we don’t know?” Blend-in a Mark Foley image.

    Disgusting? Perhaps. Most of us would not like it. However, we are still going to vote for him. It’s these other folks that matter. For them the election now is between a scary black man and a nice, clean hockey-mom. Why not make it a choice between a scary black man and a dirty old creep?

    PS. By the way, come to think about it, is there any evidence that McCain is NOT a pedophile?

  10. MediaSlackers said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:06

    How is it that we are even discussing the relevancy of these points when Cost can’t even get his venues straight? Doesn’t this make the rest of his arguments a bit questionable? In case none of you noticed, the Xcel Energy Center where Obama apparently “boldly stood” is in St. Paul and actually was the site for McCain’s sleep-inducing diatribe on who the hell knows what. Obama’s speech was given, for anyone concerned with accuracy, at Invesco Field in Denver.

  11. Lesley said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:12

    Just getting caught up on last week’s Daily shows and ugh…the thought of these Republican clowns being given another shot at the Whitehouse in the form of old fart McBush and Miss Voice like Claws on a Chalkboard makes me want to vomit.

  12. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:18

    Why not make it a choice between a scary black man and a dirty old creep?

    Better yet, why not just go full bore and make it about a tall sexy black man and his horny nubian wife, a hot bespeckled housewife and her horny young daughters, a dirty old man and his horny blonde daughter and creepy drug-addled rich blonde wife? Throw in a pig in lipstick, a couple of ponies, Carson Kressley, a sackful of dildoes and a wetsuit and you got what america really wants, an evening on the sofa drinking cheap beer in yer underpants watching reality tv.
    Guarantee that would get American Idol votes.

  13. triozyg said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:19

    Ok, is someone watching me watch my videos? I literally just finished watching Bourne Ultimatum (and yes TW I did enjoy it) and just before it was referenced a few posts ago (knock, knock, who’s there? fuck you) I watched Catch Me If You Can. Is there some kind of Sadly No tracking device on my TV?

  14. Starskee said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:22

    @MediaSlackers:

    On June 3, in the Xcel Center, Obama announced his candidacy. Remember? (I’m in ur base killin’ ur doodz–see link.)

  15. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:23

    How is it that we are even discussing the relevancy of these points when Cost can’t even get his venues straight? Doesn’t this make the rest of his arguments a bit questionable? In case none of you noticed, the Xcel Energy Center where Obama apparently “boldly stood” is in St. Paul and actually was the site for McCain’s sleep-inducing diatribe on who the hell knows what. Obama’s speech was given, for anyone concerned with accuracy, at Invesco Field in Denver.

    You probably went to college.

  16. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:25

    Ok, is someone watching me watch my videos? I literally just finished watching Bourne Ultimatum (and yes TW I did enjoy it) and just before it was referenced a few posts ago (knock, knock, who’s there? fuck you) I watched Catch Me If You Can. Is there some kind of Sadly No tracking device on my TV?

    We are all one.

  17. Just the facts, man. — Media Slackers said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:30

    [...] course I saw this posted on another blog, SadlyNo! and had to comment that neither the writer, D. Aristophanes or the 12 comments that followed (as of [...]

  18. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:31

    Ok, is someone watching me watch my videos? I literally just finished watching Bourne Ultimatum (and yes TW I did enjoy it) and just before it was referenced a few posts ago (knock, knock, who’s there? fuck you) I watched Catch Me If You Can. Is there some kind of Sadly No tracking device on my TV?

    We are all one

    PS: Catch Me If You Can== gay.
    NTTAWWT

  19. triozyg said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:34

    Ok, is someone watching me watch my videos? I literally just finished watching Bourne Ultimatum (and yes TW I did enjoy it) and just before it was referenced a few posts ago (knock, knock, who’s there? fuck you) I watched Catch Me If You Can. Is there some kind of Sadly No tracking device on my TV?

    We are all one

    PS: Catch Me If You Can== gay.
    NTTAWWT

    I hadn’t realized that — but now that you mention it — it is a movie about a relationship between two guys (DeCarpio and Hanks — ewww!)

  20. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:36

    [...] course I saw this posted on another blog, SadlyNo! and had to comment that neither the writer, D. Aristophanes or the 12 comments that followed (as of [...]

    Way to self-flaggelate, goober, gad your blog is boring, at least throw in an green background or something.

  21. seventwentyfour said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:37

    Palin’s popularity is depressing. Don’t know if it surprised Dem leadership. Not having a journalism degree I can’t read minds. I keep finding myself shocked, though.

    It seems entirely possible that a footnote could end up winning because Palin is, as Obama said of himself, just a symbol. If she remains a reasonably an even remotely acceptable surface for people to project their own shit onto then McCain/Palin can win because enough people love to vote for themselves. The election may be driven by personalities rather than issues for a lot of people but I don’t think it’s any of the candidates’ personalities.

  22. Starskee said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:40

    @MediaSlackers

    Heya–

    It was June 3–Obama announced his candidacy in the Xcel Center. In St. Paul. Remember (I’m in ur base, killin ur d00dz)?

  23. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:43

    I hadn’t realized that — but now that you mention it — it is a movie about a relationship between two guys (DeCarpio and Hanks — ewww!)

    Had the same reaction a couple days after watching that movie under similar circumstances. I said, “hey this was an okay movie..”. He said, “You are gay”. We laughed about it. Then there was sex, but you probably don’t want to hear the details… or do you? Hippy liberal blog comment sections are great places to meet potential lovers.

  24. MediaSlackers said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:47

    “Way to self-flaggelate, goober, gad your blog is boring, at least throw in an green background or something.”

    I made my point here and felt it necessary to elaborate on it elsewhere. Unlike many these days, I feel it necessary to quote, link and give credit where credit is due. It is what it is, but I do like the green background idea. That way I can paste a picture of an aircraft carrier behind me or a flooded city full of poh people for even greater self-promotion!

  25. triozyg said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:51

    Had the same reaction a couple days after watching that movie under similar circumstances. I said, “hey this was an okay movie..”. He said, “You are gay”. We laughed about it. Then there was sex, but you probably don’t want to hear the details… or do you? Hippy liberal blog comment sections are great places to meet potential lovers.

    What say we just leave it at a happy hippie dippy we are all one?

  26. MediaSlackers said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:52

    @ Starskee

    Thank you for correcting me and I apologize for not properly connecting the date.

  27. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:55

    >MediaSlackers said,

    “Way to self-flaggelate, goober, gad your blog is boring, at least throw in an green background or something.”

    I made my point here and felt it necessary to elaborate on it elsewhere. Unlike many these days, I feel it necessary to quote, link and give credit where credit is due. It is what it is, but I do like the green background idea. That way I can paste a picture of an aircraft carrier behind me or a flooded city full of poh people for even greater self-promotion!

    The green background has been done.
    No offense, hope you will continue to contribute here, but i am laughing at you, not with you.

  28. Ted Williams said,

    September 11, 2008 at 9:58

    What say we just leave it at a happy hippie dippy we are all one?

    No worries mate, I’m here on the sofa drinkin beer in my underpants any time you need a quickie.

  29. jim said,

    September 11, 2008 at 10:10

    He’s waited for this for more than 8 years now. McCain will be happy to be President Footnote … Jesus, he’d be happy to be President Dirty Sanchez or President Blumpkin if that’s what it took to slither into the job. He’s a fucking torture victim who now endorses the use of torture – if you think the minor shame of running away from the McMedia Klieg Lights like a whipped bitch will pain his pride, you’re mistaken: that quality is long gone from his life, & he doesn’t give a shit if he never gets it back. No pride, no shame, no morals – a perfect GOP butt-boy.

    Got to agree with the Rude Pundit when he says what needs to be said – call these fuckers what they are: LIARS.

    Prove that Palin lies with a straight face & that Johnny McCrash lies with a crooked one … & beat that drum until it sings. Obama should be wondering out loud if he’ll be debating Sarahcuda & not He-Who-Yells-At-Clouds when the networks’ cameras roll. Or for that matter if she’ll even deign to show up for the debates at ALL, given her total absence from the usual interview-circuit that any normal, competent candidate would be jumping on right now to get their platform out to the public. Or if Wet-Start will continue to hide behind her skirts & let everyone in the McMedia too carried away by “The Game” to care about what’s really at stake fawn & drool over her like a pathetic pack of mutts in heat.

    In nicer terms overall, yes – but he needs to call them liars (not “playing fast & loose with the truth” or “erroneous” or “prone to falsehoods”) – loudly & often – & make the deceitful pair of political vultures try to defend themselves … which will require even more lies with which to keep right on nailing their coffin shut. That’s Negative Feedback You Can Believe In.

    Obama’s lead is formidable, but it can evaporate like piss off a griddle if he keeps letting the GOP play their game by their (non-)rules, & fails to strike such a soft, slow-moving target NOW, when he’s got the time & resources to make it hurt.

    If the man’s got a 3-pointer he’s been saving, he better unload it soon.
    The bad guys are on the verge of a run & the shot-clock’s running down.

  30. triozyg said,

    September 11, 2008 at 10:13

    No worries mate, I’m here on the sofa drinkin beer in my underpants any time you need a quickie.

    Uh, no quickie (or longie), but sounds like you’re enjoying yourself — and that’s the important thing.

  31. Jrod said,

    September 11, 2008 at 11:53

    Palin is still in the honeymoon stage of her relationship with the press and the American people. She’s still shiny and new.

    It won’t last.

    I give it three weeks, tops, and only that long because she’s spending the first week or two hiding from the press. Eventually she’ll become more of a known quantity, and as the novelty wears off so will McCain’s little bounce.

    If Palin could have somehow been announced in October I’d be worried. Luckily, that’s not the case. Frankly, I hope that McCain’s electoral strategy is to parade Palin and her kids around to make the crowds ooh and aah. The American people will tire of them just as quickly as they tire of any shiny new toy.

    That was all pretty dry and humorless… POOP!

  32. justme said,

    September 11, 2008 at 12:25

    Well, dry and humorless is tidier than liquid poop, if not as funny.

  33. amocz said,

    September 11, 2008 at 12:53

    A number of commentators have jokingly warned that McLame would do well to “watch his back” around his new VP, should the GOP ticket succeed in bamboozling their way to a thrid Bush term.

    Watching his own status as the head of that ticket being utterly eclipsed by the mania of the Palin-bot cum wingnut peanut galleries must be especially galling for McLame, since he is not the sort who can allow himself to be overshadowed gracefully, right at the culmination of his political life and career — and particularly not by a nonentity whom he himself has raised up from the muck of AK local politics, and who now threatens to become the bride-of-Frankenstein monster-ette who sashays into his limelight and makes him the also-ran on his own ticket!

    At the same time, he has to realize that his choice is utterly irrevocable, that Hagee and the Xtian masses never had any use for him and still don’t, except as a necessary evil required to catapult one of their own into high office. An “Eagleton option” does not exist for young Johnny-boy — without “Sarah! Sarah! Sarah!” on tthe ticket, he must know that he is burnt, carbonized toast and the spawn of Satan, all in one conveniently disposable package.

    Meanwhile, the Sarah! monster is threatening to sink the campaign with the weight of all the un-vetted baggage and hastily-buried corpses which keep bobbling to the surface of the Alaskan mudflats. Already the GOP spin-meisters have had to spin themselves into interdimensional laughingstocks just to keep up with the burgeoning number of scandals, which increases daily at a furious pace.

    There is no doubt a tipping-point to this scenario, and it could be reached quite soon. What to do…what, that is, would be the Rovian thing to do? Hmmmm…

    I guess what I am saying is that perhaps it is Sarah Palin who should be watching her own damn back as the clock ticks down to November. Sarah Scorned! would be the GOP’s death warrant, whereas Sarah Martyred! could very well be their salvation and rallying cry — particularly if a tragic event involving the campaign aircraft could be traced to a suitably liberal jet engine mechanic (there must be some of those) somewhere. Maybe even, in the best of all possible worlds (for the McLame GOP) to some Osama-bomba fo-fomma fee-fie-fo mus-lib terrospiracy plot!!!1!1

    Yeah, I know, it’s horribly callous of me to even entertain such thoughts. And I probably would not be inclined to do so, except for the tendency of shit to happen, and to happen in ways that all-too-frequently work to extract the war party from clusterfucks of its own creation, and allow it to move forward over more and more corpses to ever-more nauseating triumphs.

    So, just sayin’… Gov. Sarah, when travelling on campaign business, it would probably be best not to fly with your family in tow; if they have to be there, consider sending them by separate transport.

    Just sayin’.

    - AManOfConstantZorro

  34. ice weasel said,

    September 11, 2008 at 13:46

    You have to know this is burning old st. bbq up.

    I was at his event in Lancaster, PA this week and he was clearly the sideshow. palin was the one that got the base’s engine running. It’s got to be killing him that the only thing that might get him to the office he seeks is someone that completely eclipses him.

    Hilarious.

    And with all that said, who is buying this shit outside of the some of the media (and that’s mostly entertainment tonight) and the base? This was a great move to insure he gets all the rethug votes but where does that leave huggy bear? Mostly in the same position he was in before the convention, not a good one.

    This election won’t be won or lost in blog comments sections with hand wringing. It will be won by working our asses off to get out the vote. Volunteer. Mobilize. Do something.

  35. Jsygrl said,

    September 11, 2008 at 14:30

    First time properly following US elections from over here (UK) – please tell me the scary women has to speak to a journalist at some point before/if she gets elected? I’ve not seen her speak anywhere other than from behind a podium.

    Seriously – we’ve got Jeremy Paxman, we’ll loan him for the day. I’d pay to watch him interview this woman.

  36. Dolly Dagger said,

    September 11, 2008 at 15:08

    If you think McCain is upset with Palin being the focus, you’re sadly mistaken. It’s obvious by now that McCain will do and say anything to win. Becoming number 44 and having his name go down in history (with a nice presidential library to boot) is all McCain cares about. So what if everyone loves Palin and not him? So what if he has to eat shit from Rove and fundies? So what if the press who loved his ass now thinks he’s an asshole. If it gets him elected, it’s all good.

  37. Jrod said,

    September 11, 2008 at 15:11

    She won’t really have to talk to anyone us DFHs would actually consider a journalist. Instead, she’ll be interviewed by the likes of Charlie Gibson.

    She’ll have to debate Biden, which theoretically should be her undoing. Unfortunately, what we call “debates” here in the USA are actually just dual interviews, in which some bobblehead asks all the questions. In fact, according to the dumbass rules of these “debates,” the people debating aren’t actually allowed to directly address each other.

    It’s also traditional for the Democrat to clobber the Republican by any objective analysis, and then have the media declare the Repug the real winner because the Dem sighed too much or some such horseshit. George Bush Jr. is considered to have “won” some of his “debates” by not drooling all over himself while drawing with crayons. If you want to learn more about this process, Google Bob Somerby.

  38. OB-GYN Kenobi said,

    September 11, 2008 at 15:13

    McCain’s “bump” is a lot less impressive when you look at how weakly it reflects on his electoral vote count:

    http://evstrength.blogspot.com/

    In short, the GOP convention was a Diet Coke for his numbers, not a Red Bull.

  39. Jsygrl said,

    September 11, 2008 at 15:35

    So they answer the same set questions, everyone nods shrewdly and then they hold a beauty contest?

  40. Garrigus Carraig said,

    September 11, 2008 at 15:40

    Seriously – we’ve got Jeremy Paxman, we’ll loan him for the day. I’d pay to watch him interview this woman.

    I hope you’d pay Paxman’s legal fees after he gets charged for felony evisceration. Whoa!

  41. cleter said,

    September 11, 2008 at 15:40

    “Has a footnote ever been elected president?”

    Rutherford B. Hayes.

    Basically, weren’t all the guys between Jackson and Lincoln more or less footnotes?

  42. dan b said,

    September 11, 2008 at 15:44

    @ Jsygrl: Agreed. Let Paxman have at her. Just not on US teevee. Cos, you know, she’s a barracuda and a pitbull in lipstick but you have to treat her with deference or else she becomes a scared little small-town girl, unable to defend herself from the bad, scary question-asking man.

    Paxman would make a martyr of Palin.

  43. Candy said,

    September 11, 2008 at 15:45

    So they answer the same set questions, everyone nods shrewdly and then they hold a beauty contest?

    Pretty much, except they don’t always bother with the shrewd nodding.

  44. rotten mcdonald said,

    September 11, 2008 at 16:03

    Remember when Foghorn Leghorn Thompson was the Exciting Republican candidate that got all the base worked up? Wasn’t that great?

    And before that, Ghouliani was the Great Republican Savior?

    These people are so desperate for an authority figure, they get excited about anything and drop it just as fast. Question becomes, can Palin be exposed before November? even if they are refusing all interviews, the drip drip drip of all her wonderful past is going to wear….

  45. Jsygrl said,

    September 11, 2008 at 16:05

    “Paxman would make a martyr of Palin.” Sad but true

    You can’t be a pitbull and a martyr – doesn’t wash.

  46. Jrod said,

    September 11, 2008 at 16:35

    You’d be surprised by what washes with the bobbleheads that we jokingly call the news media in this country.

  47. Jsygrl said,

    September 11, 2008 at 16:56

    “bobbleheads that we jokingly call the news media in this country” – i’ve been following it on BBC website. When I started checking out US coverage I wondered if it was the same election they were reporting on.

    I was hoping that the fact that Palin is the main draw at the moment would work in dems favour – if she fell flat under questioning, then they’ve got less time to sell McCain. But if the questionning aint gonna come . . . . .

  48. OB-GYN Kenobi said,

    September 11, 2008 at 17:06

    First time properly following US elections from over here (UK) – please tell me the scary women has to speak to a journalist at some point before/if she gets elected? I’ve not seen her speak anywhere other than from behind a podium.

    There’s no *legal* obligation to do it, which is probably why the Yank Tories won’t let her talk to the press.

    And as far as letting someone from the UK interview Gov. Palin, I’d like to ask if you lot could spare us Graham Norton for a day or two. That interview would be most enlightening.

  49. Jsygrl said,

    September 11, 2008 at 17:12

    “I’d like to ask if you lot could spare us Graham Norton for a day or two. That interview would be most enlightening.”

    Best idea I’ve heard in ages – we’ll stick him on a plane this afternoon. Maybe take Eddie Izzard to interview McCain.

  50. Dreamweasel said,

    September 11, 2008 at 17:43

    “Has a footnote ever been elected president?”

    See Bush, George H.W.

    I cannot foretell whether, in the years to come, his primary identification will be that of Reagan’s Veep or as Dubbya’s Dad. But I’m sure he will be a footnote to one or the other.

  51. actor212 said,

    September 11, 2008 at 17:53

    Has a footnote ever been elected president?

    William Henry Harrison.

  52. Steve M. said,

    September 11, 2008 at 18:04

    For the love of God, stop asking whether it’s ever happened before, as if a no answer means it can’t happen now. In a century, it had never happened before that a major league baseball team won a seven-game postseason series after being down 3-0 — but the Red Sox did it in 2004, then they won the World Series. Things that haven’t happened can happen.

  53. Parrotlover77 said,

    September 11, 2008 at 18:06

    Is it just me or is Palin’s northern accent getting aritificially stronger each day? She barely has a noticble accent on some of the videos on youtube from a year ago. Now she says things like “hackey mam” and the base have a collective Alaskagasm.

  54. noen said,

    September 11, 2008 at 18:08

    as we wait for Charles Gibson to do whatever he’s going to do in ABC’s upcoming Palin interview

    Oh we already know what Charles “Dominionist ABC” Gibson is going to do. He’s going to strap on the knee pads and do his duty. Sarah Palin will never ever face a single tough interview so people can just forget about that now. Not gonna happen.

  55. noen said,

    September 11, 2008 at 18:13

    Is it just me or is Palin’s northern accent getting aritificially stronger each day?

    Notice how Bush no longer mangles the English language? You don’t suddely learn correct grammar at 60. Yes, this is a typical Rovian ploy. The man lives and breathes Machiavelli. I am sure that she is being coached on how to best appeal to the base, just like Bush was.

  56. sagra said,

    September 11, 2008 at 18:17

    Notice how Bush no longer mangles the English language?

    Who?

  57. DAS said,

    September 11, 2008 at 18:30

    Palin and her sidekick are going to get their heads torn off and fed to them as soon as they have to speak without a pocketful of talking points and a teleprompter. Palin already made a complete ass of herself the first time she went off script, trying to pretend she knew what FNMA stood for and could just fake her way through a couple sentences. Hilarious FAIL. – Islmaofascist

    Sorry to be a spoil-sport here, but let’s not get over confident. People said the above about GW Bush as well. And he is the President (even if by coup and not be fair and square election).

  58. Mandos said,

    September 11, 2008 at 18:35

    All too sanguine, and too complacent. That Sarah Palin is stupid or smart is an irrelevant detail. And the idea of someone being crushed on “issues” during the debates is also less important that some of you seem to think. This election, for better or for worse, is now about identity politics, and which Ohio voters want to have a beer with whom, among other details.

  59. DAS said,

    September 11, 2008 at 18:35

    By the way, come to think about it, is there any evidence that McCain is NOT a pedophile? – krassen

    Would it be irresponsible to speculate? It would be irresponsible NOT to!

  60. jim said,

    September 11, 2008 at 19:27

    Why is John McCain against legislation that makes it harder on pedophiles? Why does John McCain want to help pedophiles?

    Pure win.
    They put it out there – now make them defend it.

    Nothing wrong with citing the GOP’s long record of electing pedos while you’re at it. Not really surprising: a lot of sick fucks hide behind Bibles & flags, & guess whose franchise those props are selling? It’s disgusting & by now, it’s not an unfortunate coincidence – it’s a very real pattern. Again, no lying or fabricating is needed – just the facts, ma’am.

  61. WereBear said,

    September 11, 2008 at 19:30

    Nothing wrong with citing the GOP’s long record of electing pedos while you’re at it.

    That’s gold, Jim, gold!

  62. Pope Ratzo said,

    September 11, 2008 at 19:39

    Ms Palin’s honeymoon with the American people and media is melting faster than an Alaskan glacier.

    Her big speech was what, about two weeks ago? That didn’t take long.

  63. some groundhog said,

    September 11, 2008 at 19:57

    what charlie gibson is going to do with palin…

    he’s going to apply a loving tongue bath. he’s going to gently sort of follow up on tough questions with querulous entreaties that quickly become warm bromides. he will allow wiggle room, lots of wiggle room. he will treat her like the american idol second place freak that she is.

    america will love it.

    sighs all around.

  64. DAS said,

    September 11, 2008 at 20:10

    Nothing wrong with citing the GOP’s long record of electing pedos while you’re at it – Jim

    The GOP is merely defending Western Civ. here. Since the days of the ancient Greeks, our Western Civilization was built on a foundation of man-boy love. Meanwhile those dirty, pervy liberals are trying to undermine our civilization with their radical ideas of about consensual sex between life partners who are equals and who actually love each other and are mutually attracted. Don’t those liberals know that sex is teh icky? That the glories of Western Civilization are dependent on only having teh sex with your partner (who must be of the opposite sex) when one wants to have a baby and that all other sexual outlets should involve power imbalance and ephebophilia?

  65. Legalize said,

    September 11, 2008 at 20:35

    Just an anecdote, but the ladies in my office have grown tired of Sarah Palin. And about half of them are GOPers. The initial “ooh, she’s a mother” thing has grown tired. Two are already committed to Obama, and the other gasped when I showed her the Joe Klein article about McCain wanting to tax her health insurance.

    9/11 and Ike will cool the blather for the week. Today Bill is supposedly going to start hitting the road for Barack; tonight Obama and McCain are doing another one of those forum thingies on CNN, which I can only imagine will touch on actual issues; and the 527s will get active soon. If Obama can pivot tonight and force a discussion of the issues, and sort of shame McCain with a smile and a serious tone, this thing can very easily get back on track.

    McCain’s worse nightmare is defending his policies, without being able to hide behind Palin’s skirt.

    Remember, it’s the fucking economy, stupid. Everything: Iraq, Iran, Russia, oil, global warming, health insurance, taxes, et al – the fucking economy. People dig the novelty of Mandy Mooseburger, but people are also fucking freaked out about their futures.

  66. You Can't Put Lipstick On A Repig said,

    September 11, 2008 at 21:53

    > mbalance and ephebophilia?

    Damn you, you Liberal Elitistist Dictionary Owner!

  67. mikey said,

    September 11, 2008 at 22:04

    This election, for better or for worse, is now about identity politics, and which Ohio voters want to have a beer with whom, among other details.

    Not actually, no. 2004 was about identity politics. It’s very possible that 2008 will not be. It could turn out the way you call it, but it’s in no way a forgone conclusion at this point…

    mikey

  68. Smut Clyde said,

    September 11, 2008 at 22:51

    Maybe take Eddie Izzard to interview McCain.
    He could provide lipstick advice.

  69. kenga said,

    September 12, 2008 at 2:53

    And flag pin advice.

  70. Dr Zen said,

    September 12, 2008 at 4:52

    Legalize is right. They win if they make it all about Palin. We win if we make it all about McCain.

  71. Painfully aware said,

    September 12, 2008 at 6:29

    Phony Palinmania has bitten the dust.

    Time for the Republicans to prove that they deserve another 4 years.

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