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		<title>By: Mccain-palin: Playing Media Chicken With The Public’s Interest &#124; Politics - Sharpy News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mccain-palin: Playing Media Chicken With The Public’s Interest &#124; Politics - Sharpy News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just got introduced.  Don&#8217;t they want to let us know more about her?  Sadly, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His popularity with the media, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His popularity with the media, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: tigrismus</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigrismus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, ronin, I think that&#039;s a really good point.  Accessibility is also the prime reason for McCain&#039;s popularity in particular, as numerous media folks have admitted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, ronin, I think that&#8217;s a really good point.  Accessibility is also the prime reason for McCain&#8217;s popularity in particular, as numerous media folks have admitted.</p>
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		<title>By: Colatina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colatina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not very dangerous.  It&#039;s no Talking Point Left Behind, mixed in with a little media bullying.  &quot;Who do you think you are, acting like you can ask Fuhrer Palin questions?!  Pissant!&quot;  The head of communications is frothing at the mouth, daring the media to come within striking distance.

Morning Joe is so lame.  They&#039;ve got to get Scarborough back into a decent gig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not very dangerous.  It&#8217;s no Talking Point Left Behind, mixed in with a little media bullying.  &#8220;Who do you think you are, acting like you can ask Fuhrer Palin questions?!  Pissant!&#8221;  The head of communications is frothing at the mouth, daring the media to come within striking distance.</p>
<p>Morning Joe is so lame.  They&#8217;ve got to get Scarborough back into a decent gig.</p>
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		<title>By: sagra</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I laugh at danger.

Obama and Biden don&#039;t have to say a single word about Palin.  They just go on a lot of interviews.  Wherever they go they should stop to do shirtsleeves, in-a-crowd interviews with local codwrapper reporters and 6 o&#039;clock news teams.  Look those individuals in the eye and answer their questions.  In comparison, Palin would look like a princess who just rides around in her carriage and waves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I laugh at danger.</p>
<p>Obama and Biden don&#8217;t have to say a single word about Palin.  They just go on a lot of interviews.  Wherever they go they should stop to do shirtsleeves, in-a-crowd interviews with local codwrapper reporters and 6 o&#8217;clock news teams.  Look those individuals in the eye and answer their questions.  In comparison, Palin would look like a princess who just rides around in her carriage and waves.</p>
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		<title>By: ronin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My guess is that they&#039;ve gone too far. The repubs kept the press in line by doling out &lt;strike&gt;propaganda&lt;/strike&gt; inside information and &quot;access&quot; to give the press something to do. First went the Straight Talk Express, now Palin.  Cutting them off completely threatens the press&#039; very existence. It will not end well. The Clintons learned this the hard way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My guess is that they&#8217;ve gone too far. The repubs kept the press in line by doling out <strike>propaganda</strike> inside information and &#8220;access&#8221; to give the press something to do. First went the Straight Talk Express, now Palin.  Cutting them off completely threatens the press&#8217; very existence. It will not end well. The Clintons learned this the hard way.</p>
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		<title>By: Stolen Dormouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stolen Dormouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t Nicolle Wallace that serial killer nemesis of Det. Goren on &lt;i&gt;Law &amp; Order: Criminal Intent&lt;/i&gt;? How did she get a job with the McCain campaign? And why hasn&#039;t Det. Goren arrested her for attempted murder of democracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t Nicolle Wallace that serial killer nemesis of Det. Goren on <i>Law &amp; Order: Criminal Intent</i>? How did she get a job with the McCain campaign? And why hasn&#8217;t Det. Goren arrested her for attempted murder of democracy?</p>
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		<title>By: jjcomet</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vagabond - through your barely literate scratchings, I take it you feel the media has been too hard on Sarah Palin and not tough enough on Obama. Don&#039;t you think it&#039;s a bit too early in the day to be smoking crack?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vagabond &#8211; through your barely literate scratchings, I take it you feel the media has been too hard on Sarah Palin and not tough enough on Obama. Don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s a bit too early in the day to be smoking crack?</p>
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		<title>By: She Means What She Said &#171; Red Tory v.3.0</title>
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		<dc:creator>She Means What She Said &#171; Red Tory v.3.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] folks at Sadly No rightly point out the extreme danger in this approach: What Wallace is doing isn’t merely [...]</description>
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		<title>By: spencer</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When McSame says that Palin has run a business, do you think he means the one that never got off the ground, or the car wash that had it’s license to do business yanked for failing to pay taxes and fees?&lt;/i&gt;

As an aside, I fucking &lt;b&gt;hate&lt;/b&gt; the trope that success in the business world is some sort of automatic qualification for public office. Government and businesses are two completely different types of organizations - they have wildly different goals, and both require different skill sets for effective management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When McSame says that Palin has run a business, do you think he means the one that never got off the ground, or the car wash that had it’s license to do business yanked for failing to pay taxes and fees?</i></p>
<p>As an aside, I fucking <b>hate</b> the trope that success in the business world is some sort of automatic qualification for public office. Government and businesses are two completely different types of organizations &#8211; they have wildly different goals, and both require different skill sets for effective management.</p>
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		<title>By: krassen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>commie atheist said,

September 5, 2008 at 4:31 

I fought corruption…and corruption won.

That&#039;s because corruption takes no prisoners (of war)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>commie atheist said,</p>
<p>September 5, 2008 at 4:31 </p>
<p>I fought corruption…and corruption won.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because corruption takes no prisoners (of war)</p>
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		<title>By: krassen</title>
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		<dc:creator>krassen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 07:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This HAS GOT to be a joke!
 Obama sat with O&#039;Reily today, for chrissaeks, but Miss PitBull won&#039;t be talking to ANY media because blogger ArcXIX from DailyKos.com was mean to her???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This HAS GOT to be a joke!<br />
 Obama sat with O&#8217;Reily today, for chrissaeks, but Miss PitBull won&#8217;t be talking to ANY media because blogger ArcXIX from DailyKos.com was mean to her???</p>
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		<title>By: ahem</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 07:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wallace (formerly Nicolle Devilish) is filth: the Mouth of fucking Sauron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallace (formerly Nicolle Devilish) is filth: the Mouth of fucking Sauron.</p>
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		<title>By: Vagabond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vagabond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 07:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Media has not done there job for years.  If they had we might have different people running.  I still have not seen any one push Oboma yet, there is no rest for Sarah.  Put the blame where it should be.  On the media,  they are so one sided its not even funny.


And to commie, Sarah fought and won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Media has not done there job for years.  If they had we might have different people running.  I still have not seen any one push Oboma yet, there is no rest for Sarah.  Put the blame where it should be.  On the media,  they are so one sided its not even funny.</p>
<p>And to commie, Sarah fought and won.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Ockham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Ockham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 06:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck me, that video was chilling.  I had a nice relax on before I watched that, now I&#039;m all on edge.  

Did not care for that at all, not one bit.

How best to counter the &#039;personal narrative&#039; garbage then?  What ought we to do, what should we be telling all the &#039;medium&#039; and &#039;low&#039; information voters in our lives to keep them above the propaganda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck me, that video was chilling.  I had a nice relax on before I watched that, now I&#8217;m all on edge.  </p>
<p>Did not care for that at all, not one bit.</p>
<p>How best to counter the &#8216;personal narrative&#8217; garbage then?  What ought we to do, what should we be telling all the &#8216;medium&#8217; and &#8216;low&#8217; information voters in our lives to keep them above the propaganda?</p>
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		<title>By: Percyprune</title>
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		<dc:creator>Percyprune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The green screen of death?</description>
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		<title>By: cleter</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were there secret coded messages in the randomness of the Jumbotron?  Some random mansion (stately Wayne Manor, maybe?)---blank green screen--some corn. I mean, what the hell? Are the Republicans broke? Can&#039;t they hire decent IT people to keep the screen from blanking out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were there secret coded messages in the randomness of the Jumbotron?  Some random mansion (stately Wayne Manor, maybe?)&#8212;blank green screen&#8211;some corn. I mean, what the hell? Are the Republicans broke? Can&#8217;t they hire decent IT people to keep the screen from blanking out?</p>
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		<title>By: Shredder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shredder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the point. They hate democracy and are trying to kill it. But then they have to maintain their Potemkin village. So they lie brazenly. Until they see actual consequences, they&#039;ll just keep doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the point. They hate democracy and are trying to kill it. But then they have to maintain their Potemkin village. So they lie brazenly. Until they see actual consequences, they&#8217;ll just keep doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Snarl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;She wants to run a campaign where the American public only sees propaganda and never gets the contrary view. Ye gods, this is a dangerous and authoritarian mindset.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There&#039;s no &quot;if&quot; to it, Brad.  They&#039;ve been doing it for years. Ken Auletta &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/01/19/040119fa_fact_auletta&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;diagnosed it&lt;/a&gt; a bit late, in 2004.  Remember Dubya&#039;s interviews with small-town radio hosts, who peed themselves trying to suck up to him?  They called this &quot;getting around the filter.&quot;  Jay Rosen correctly nailed Scott McClellan&#039;s job not as someone whose job was to communicate with the press, but as someone whose job was to insult and humiliate the press, and give them &lt;b&gt;no&lt;/b&gt; information, ever.

Rethuglican presidents used to whine that the &quot;media&quot; were &quot;biased.&quot;  These fucks have been playing a whole new game, and all too successfully:  they just look at the media as useless scum -- useless unless they can be &lt;i&gt;used&lt;/i&gt; like a Tim Russert blowup doll, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>She wants to run a campaign where the American public only sees propaganda and never gets the contrary view. Ye gods, this is a dangerous and authoritarian mindset.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s no &#8220;if&#8221; to it, Brad.  They&#8217;ve been doing it for years. Ken Auletta <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/01/19/040119fa_fact_auletta" rel="nofollow">diagnosed it</a> a bit late, in 2004.  Remember Dubya&#8217;s interviews with small-town radio hosts, who peed themselves trying to suck up to him?  They called this &#8220;getting around the filter.&#8221;  Jay Rosen correctly nailed Scott McClellan&#8217;s job not as someone whose job was to communicate with the press, but as someone whose job was to insult and humiliate the press, and give them <b>no</b> information, ever.</p>
<p>Rethuglican presidents used to whine that the &#8220;media&#8221; were &#8220;biased.&#8221;  These fucks have been playing a whole new game, and all too successfully:  they just look at the media as useless scum &#8212; useless unless they can be <i>used</i> like a Tim Russert blowup doll, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Rightwingsnarkle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rightwingsnarkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking to Brad&#039;s point on such blatant controlling of the message -  It&#039;s their only hope, their only chance.

And it&#039;s a pretty thin reed &lt;i&gt;IF&lt;/i&gt; enough of the folks in the corporate media do their fucking jobs (that is, if any still know how, or ever did).

&#039;Cuz that&#039;s still how most folks get their news, if they pay attention at all. We obsessive few, hunched over our keyboards, are still just that - a few.

I think that there are enough corporate media folks, and some talented indies, who&#039;ll do the legwork and get the stories out there.

And bloggers&#039;ll keep doing what they/we do, and that will help.

But I guess, ultimately, it&#039;s gonna come down to the person-to-person contact and GOTV.

Damn fuck shit, that&#039;s something that I&#039;m absolutely no good at - I hate having to explain the obvious to people, and that dislike seeps through too easily.

So, I&#039;m giving money - more than the missus wants me to (or knows about) - but I could probably give more, and probably will.

And maybe if I get a brain transplant, I might drive across the line to the nearby swingstate of New Hamster (&#039;Live Free, or go to Nova Scotia&#039;) to knock on doors.

Or maybe I can just hang back in the office to make coffee, sweep up, and shit like that.

Because these war porn fucktards will be the end of us.

One more thought - I think Miss Alaska is gonna have a short shelf life. 

Maybe it&#039;s wishful thinking, or just a fervent hope, but when Mad Jack goes down like a five dollar hooker this November, the wingnut fundies are going down with them. She is indeed one of them, but a serious beating in the fall will reduce her to a 20-year career on the rubber chicken circuit.

Either that, or the many, many skeletons in her closet will bring her down.

I dunno. I&#039;m tired. I&#039;m gonna make an online donation and go to bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking to Brad&#8217;s point on such blatant controlling of the message &#8211;  It&#8217;s their only hope, their only chance.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s a pretty thin reed <i>IF</i> enough of the folks in the corporate media do their fucking jobs (that is, if any still know how, or ever did).</p>
<p>&#8216;Cuz that&#8217;s still how most folks get their news, if they pay attention at all. We obsessive few, hunched over our keyboards, are still just that &#8211; a few.</p>
<p>I think that there are enough corporate media folks, and some talented indies, who&#8217;ll do the legwork and get the stories out there.</p>
<p>And bloggers&#8217;ll keep doing what they/we do, and that will help.</p>
<p>But I guess, ultimately, it&#8217;s gonna come down to the person-to-person contact and GOTV.</p>
<p>Damn fuck shit, that&#8217;s something that I&#8217;m absolutely no good at &#8211; I hate having to explain the obvious to people, and that dislike seeps through too easily.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m giving money &#8211; more than the missus wants me to (or knows about) &#8211; but I could probably give more, and probably will.</p>
<p>And maybe if I get a brain transplant, I might drive across the line to the nearby swingstate of New Hamster (&#8216;Live Free, or go to Nova Scotia&#8217;) to knock on doors.</p>
<p>Or maybe I can just hang back in the office to make coffee, sweep up, and shit like that.</p>
<p>Because these war porn fucktards will be the end of us.</p>
<p>One more thought &#8211; I think Miss Alaska is gonna have a short shelf life. </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s wishful thinking, or just a fervent hope, but when Mad Jack goes down like a five dollar hooker this November, the wingnut fundies are going down with them. She is indeed one of them, but a serious beating in the fall will reduce her to a 20-year career on the rubber chicken circuit.</p>
<p>Either that, or the many, many skeletons in her closet will bring her down.</p>
<p>I dunno. I&#8217;m tired. I&#8217;m gonna make an online donation and go to bed.</p>
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