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Beyond parody




Posted at 23:08 by Brad

This is an actual post over at Larry Johnson’s NoQuarter blog. You cannot make this shit up:

Party Time with the Democratic Party’s Presidential Ticket

By SusanUnPC

Is Barack Obama compensating for his despair over the latest CNN Poll — that shows Obama in a dead heat with McCain, and with ZERO convention bounce — by taking other peoples’ food? Seems that presidential nominee Barack Obama helped himself to a pile of chicken wings he didn’t buy and he didn’t order.

The image — from a press pool report yesterday in Hamilton, Indiana — shows a desperately hungry Obama voraciously tearing into other people’s chicken wings. [...]

We’ve all wondered why Obama looks so skinny. I guess we know why now: He’s reduced to stealing food in order to eat!

The amazing mix or racism and stupidity on display here is quite impressive. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Larry.

[And thanks to reader Tom for sending us the link.]

284 Comments »

  1. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:12

    I eagerly await the NoQuarter/TalkLeft/TGW pity party.

    Maybe teh Troof can bring some casserole.

  2. Auguste said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:13

    “Obama’s wearing a WEDDING RING in two pictures from 1983 and 1986, but he didn’t marry Michelle until 1989.
    Does anyone know why he’s wearing this ring for at least 3 years?

    His entire paternal lineage were polygamists, just sayin’”

    From the third comment in that thread.

  3. His Grace said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:13

    Brad you missed Larry “Whitey Tape” Johnson earlier lecture today on how today’s progressive bloggers were the George Bush’s of 2008 because they were pushing unsubstantiated rumours about Palin’s baby. He then claimed there was no equivalence to the Birth Certificate mess because that was based on fact.

  4. His Grace said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:23

    More comedy

    Comment by Andy | 2008-09-01 15:28:55

    Just in:

    Newt Gingrich now on Hannity said he studied carefully the polls and that 7 of the 8 point bounce Obama got out of the Convention (or “Fixvention” as Amy said) came as consequence of the Clinton speeches. That Obama only got 1 point bounce out of his own speech.

  5. Arky The Islahomobamaist said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:25

    Seems that presidential nominee Barack Obama helped himself to a pile of chicken wings he didn’t buy and he didn’t order.

    Uh Lar, I know you don’t get out much and your only friends could be counted on one hand. Hell, your only friend is your hand, but could it be that someone else at the table ordered the wings as an appetizer for everyone?

    NO WAI! ANGRY BLACK MAN STEALZ UR CHICKEN AND UR WIMMINZ!

    No one tell Larry that Obama is showing a 6 point lead among everyone today.

  6. norbizness said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:27

    Thanks?! Link?!?

  7. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:30

    Next up on the “bitter old biddies for Mcain” blogs.. Barack Obama eating a whole watermelon.

  8. o'scrod said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:37

    Can it get campier! Obama dazzles 80,000 in a football stadium, McCain names a woman who gave birth 5 months ago as his running mate (her fifth child, born after she spent 8 hours in labor on a plane), Gustav shows up with bad memories of 3 years ago and causes the GOP to consider turning their convention into a telethon, Palin announces that her teenage daughter is pregnant, and Obama steals chickenwings. What a labor day weekend!

  9. Landru said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:38

    Well, wait a minute, here, lie-buruhls. I have heard that black people like chicken. Could it be that Obama is black?

    This is probably worth looking into.

  10. Ripley said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:38

    I heard he didn’t cook those chicken wings, either!!

    And, also, that they were actually angel wings - because Obama hates angels!!!!

  11. Leeds man said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:40

    Is there any lingering doubt that NoQuarter is just Republican Astroturf?

  12. J— said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:40

    And Hanna’s to hit the Georgia and South Carolina coast next weekend. Cokie, scrap those Myrtle Beach vacations plans and head to Hawaii!

  13. N__B said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:42

    I think the line they wanted was “Where the white meat at?”

  14. Arky The Islahomobamaist said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:46

    Is there any lingering doubt that NoQuarter is just ^a Republican Astroturf shit moat?

  15. Tim (The Other One) said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:46

    Check the kerning on those wings.

  16. coastal elitist man said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:47

    These wingnuts are just sad and pathetic. This guy really believes that his smear is gonna help his side win?

    Americans are much more enlightened about race than they were in the 1960s. This kind of stuff is not gonna fly anymore.

  17. Smut Clyde said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:48

    Come on, don’t be fooled by this insincere, cynical display of populism. In your hearts you know he excused himself after the photo-op and went away to purge, to make room for something more elitist.

  18. mikey said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:52

    I know I keep saying this, but GAWD!

    IS THAT ALL THEY CAN COME UP WITH???

    Obama eats somebody elses chicken wings?

    I guess you’ve just pretty much given up on policy and governance issues if the best reason you can come up with for voting a particular way in a presidential election is WHO PAID FOR THE FUCKING CHICKEN????

    And some of you folks are worried about the outcome.

    Hell, babe, it’s time to assume the outcome and start figuring out how to move the Obama administration to the left…

    mikey

  19. coastal elitist man said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:54

    Larry Johnson is a racist POS. Black people have come so far since desegregation and now this guy wants to kick them to the gutter.

    I just hope we get a true progressive elected in November, its about time America joined the rest of the civilized world and moved past this tribal patriotic bullshit.

    I can’t wait to hear the bitching from the rightwing once a blackman is elected President, they’re all gonna be exposed as the racist out of touch cretins that they are.

  20. The Truth said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:54

    I don’t know, liberals. I think you should be very worried about this poll, taken after the Messiah had pounded out Mario Cuomo’s 1984 DNC keynote.

    The difference, liberals, is of course that at this point, Dukakis had a 15-point lead in the polls over Reagan. How did that little contest end up?

    Ah, you want to feast on Palin’s family. Go right ahead, if you think it will help you. I think to really make a splash, you need your wife, a professional affirmative action officer, to publically show her disdain for whites; you need your pastor to damn America; you need to hang around with Ayers and Rezko. I have a feeling that Palin’s daughter will end up in the same category as Cheney’s, i.e. a non issue.

    But feel free to lather up on Palin’s family. I know you’d rather talk about that than how people are actually likely to vote. Yesterday’s parade - in my very blue county in my very blue state - was interesting. The (dishearteningly large and vocal) Obama contingent was met with stony silence. What does it all mean? We’ll find out November 4. I think things are going very well indeed.

  21. Ripley said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:56

    Next up: Tip Watch

    Did Obama or his people tip the server? Did they???

    (Yes, I remember the “story.”)

  22. Righteous Bubba said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:58

    Ah, you want to feast on Palin’s family.

    No, it’s really about McCain’s smarts. But do go on.

  23. J— said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:58

    In your hearts you know he excused himself after the photo-op and went away to purge, to make room for something more elitist.

    That’s exactly right. Later he ate a white baby.

  24. Cooter Jones said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:58

    Not only did Obama bogart the chicken wings - he totally abused the free drink refills, and he swipped a handful of Splenda packs too.

  25. Nimrod Gently said,

    September 1, 2008 at 23:59

    LOL DEM NIGGERS SHURE LIKE CHICKEN

    AND WATERMELONS

    AND

    AND

    NIGGERS

  26. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:00

    Troffy, it was Mondale you racist shrill.

    I’m sick of you reichtards whining about how “unfair” affirmative action is. How would you like to be brought to a foregin country in shackles, seperated from your family and forcing to work as a slave in some rich SOB plantation. You and your ancestors enslaved for 300 years.

    You wingnuts make me sick. Its people like you that make America the laughing stock of the world.

  27. J.D. Rhoades said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:00

    This, lest we forget, is the blog where commenters like to post pictures of Michelle Obama made up to look like Zira from “Planet of the Apes.”

  28. g said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:00

    Love the Dukakis vs. Reagan take. Da Troof’s grasp of history is right on.

  29. Jennifer said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:01

    The difference, liberals, is of course that at this point, Dukakis had a 15-point lead in the polls over Reagan. How did that little contest end up?

    If I remember, it ended up with George HW Bush winning.

    No wonder those polls you cite are full of shit. Reagan wasn’t even running.

  30. Tim (The Other One) said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:02

    Just channel surfing the RNC on Fox News. It’s like watching the MDS Telethon:

    Cindy & Laura: Gustav’s Kids !

  31. g said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:02

    Troofy just demonstrated how accurate his predictions are!

  32. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:03

    If the networks show a pregnant 17 year old African American in New Orleans will everyone coo with admiration at her having her baby?

    Um no.

    But that indeed highlights the whole problem. Bristol Palin’s pregnancy is indeed nobody’s business but the family’s . But the number of things that are nobody’s business is rather long and the number of people who habitually respect such things is rather small.

    And the people who are absolutely the worst at staying out of other people’s business are the “values voters’ who Palin’s nomination were supposed to placate in the first place.

    It’s a strange world we live in.

    Posted by Paul Dirks | September 1, 2008 5:21 PM

    A big shout-out to Paul Dirks, common tatin’ over at Time’s Swampland.

    .

  33. Gabby Johnson said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:04

    The nominee is a n’er!!!!!!

  34. Jennifer said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:04

    Troofy: Sadly,No!s own Nostradumbass.

  35. FlipYrWhig said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:05

    The difference, liberals, is of course that at this point, Dukakis had a 15-point lead in the polls over Reagan. How did that little contest end up?

    Yes, the Dukakis-Reagan race was truly one for the history books. Remember when Willie Horton said “There you go again. Where’s the beef?” And that devastating ad about riding around in tanks while there was a scary bear in the woods?

  36. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:07

    Don’t mind troofy, he’s just a RNC drone with a sad pathetic life.

    This blog is great, I’m a long time reader, first time poster. Leftwing politics is my passion.

    Don’t worry guys, Obama’s gonna cream McSame November 4 and America will finally be on the long road to progress and change.

  37. a different brad said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:12

    Did someone mention racism over at No Quarter?

    Comment by YES HRC | 2008-09-01 16:28:06

    ROFL. Big difference. If bobo plans on winning in the fall, he needs to be up 10 points. The millions he spent for the coronation were a waste. Ouch.

  38. Gary Ruppert said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:13

    The fact is, John McCain went without chicken wings for FIVE AND A HALF YEARS. Or celery. Or blue cheese.

    Heartland.

  39. El Cid said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:15

    You think that’s bad, here’s a later paragraph from that same Time article:

    After getting up, Obama got a t-shirt from the restaurant’s owner, Gay Martin, who opened the place five years ago. Obama posed for a photo with Martin’s sons and the blue shirt, which was emblazoned on the back with “Win or lose, we still booze.”

    Obama has to get his clothes from Gay people who want children to get drunk!!!

    It’s simply disgusting, and offensive.

  40. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:16

    What about hot sauce, Gary?

  41. The Ghost of WFBuckley said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:20

    I say, if you people are set on voting for a blackamoor, perhaps you should pick one with better table manners.

  42. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:21

    Wingnuts are very bigoted against anyone whose not white, straight and judeo-christian.

    After this election they’re gonna be screwed because their darkest bedwetting nightmare will become a reality. A blackman elected President. And a true progressive at that.

    The bigots will still be here of course but they’ll become more and more irrelevent as America slowly but surely becomes a post-modern European style Social-Democracy.

  43. The Negagary, from the Seventh Dimension said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:22

    Harrumph. Hot sauce? That would be simply plebian, and that’s the fact. Us coastal elites don’t kowtow to hoi polloi like Obama and his “mess o’ fried chickens”.

  44. The Truth said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:23

    Sometimes when I jack off my micropenis to Michelle Obama pictures, I also picture Barack stealing chicken wings, and Michelle divorcing him and coming to live with meeeeeeee

  45. The Truth said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:25

    LOL, yes indeed I did confuse the liberal loser of the 1984 with a different loser. Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry; the list is long in the past 28 years. Jimmy Carter remains the last Democratic President elected by a majority, a record of which even the Cubs would be ashamed.

    Coastal elite, you really want to peddle that line of crap about slavery justifying affirmative action? Caribbean descendents of slavery do quite well in the US; so do Russian, Irish, and Italian descendents of serfdom; so do Indian descendents of untouchables. I’m sure you’ll keep banging that drum, as you hold in thrall the one demographic you take for granted, but even a dim liberal must admit that racial preferences are, ipso loquitor, racially discriminatory.

  46. El Cid said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:28

    Ummm, umm, black guy running who’s probably going to beat us, um, um, Affirmative Action! Bill Ayers! Soetaro! Rezko! Juicemaster! What?

  47. The Truth said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:28

    Look at lil’ micropenis go! Ooh, Michelle! Ooh, you’re so big and strong and Obama doesn’t deserve you! Oh, oh, oh, ohhhhhhhh

  48. The Truth's Mom said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:29

    Truthy, what are you doing in there? What’s all that banging?

  49. The Truth said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:29

    Um, nothing mommy! Nothing at all!

    Come on, dammit, why aren’t you hard yet? Come on come on come onnnnnnnnn

  50. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:30

    Affirmative action is one of the most noble policys ever enacted by American society. The fact that you fail to see it proves you’re a racist and scumbag.

    Its the very least white American society can do after 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow laws, state sponsered lynchings and segregation.

    Keep living in the 1950s reichtard, Obama will be President and the smell of change is in the air.

  51. The Tuth said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:30

    Many of my best friends are haitians and dalits who run billion dollar hedge funds.

  52. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:31

    What kind of preferences got us a Preznit Shrub, troofy?

    I’ll note he didn’t get elected by a majority.

    And how’s that all working for us?

    I’ll say the one good thing about shrub: the First AWOL Cokehead (inadvertently, of course) has put the GOP down.

    Like the rabid dog it is.

  53. Gundamhead said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:32

    I just thank God it wasn’t arugula! The whole campaign would have been sunk!

  54. maya said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:35

    Sure they’re not southern fried, extra crispy fetuses he’s eating, Lar?

  55. Simba B said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:36

    And a true progressive

    Yeah, good luck with that sell around here.

  56. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:38

    Like I said, Troofy and his racist knuckledragging reichtard buddies will become more and more irrelevent once Obama is elected and American becomes more like Europe which is long overdue.

    Soon we’ll have free health care, a truly progressive income tax system, a reduced military budget and reproductive and sexual freedom for all Americans.

  57. Simba B said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:42

    American becomes more like Europe

    Ok, who’s doing the parody here?

  58. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:43

    I think Obama is a true progressive.

    However, this is a national election he at least needs to appear more “moderate” than he actually is in order to be electable. Unfortunately American society still isn’t at the point where a candidate for national office can openly run on a truly progressive platform and be elected.

    Things will change soon I hope, but we’re just not there yet.

  59. His Grace said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:44

    You know, it would truly be an awesome day in Sadly, No history if we had two parody trolls battling it out with each other, each unaware of the joke.

  60. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:44

    Yeah, come on.. America is the ONLY first world democracy to be without free healthcare, or some approximation of it. Long overdue.

    Proper anti-discrimination laws? Also way overdue.

    A military budget actually in proportion to the nations size and security risks? Well, that would pay for all the necessary social spending, and do wonders for a sensible foreign policy.

  61. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:45

    Sorry Simba, I don’t believe I introduced myself.

    I’m new around here. And I’m also a socialist and not afraid to admit it.

    America needs to become a Social-Democracy like most Western European nations if we ever hope to become a truly progressive society.

  62. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:46

    I believe there’s a hint of faux in the air . . .

  63. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:50

    The thing is, I don’t disagree with Coastal elitist man.. I’m living in western Europe, and I have to tell you, it really is pretty great. I shall be charitable and assume that he only thinks Obama is a left winger because of the frame of reference he has to work with.

  64. Hoosier X said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:50

    Are all trolls parody trolls, or does it just seem like it?

  65. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:50

    What’s wrong with America becoming more like Europe?

    They have free health care. They abolished state sanctioned murder. They don’t get involved in capitalist driven wars for profit. They have equal rights for gays and women. And they have long gotten past primitive notions of patriotism and national pride which would only mean more foolish wars and sectarian strife.

    Whats a progressive not to like about Europe?

  66. Gary Ruppert said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:51

    The fact is, real Americans in the heartland don’t want to live like Europeans in their tiny apartments in their crowded cities with their free education and healthcare and good restaurants and month-long vacations. We like driving 45 minutes each way to the Wal-Mart and going into substantial debt for our college educations. If we want free education and healthcare we will just join the military, which also has snazzy uniforms and open showers and lots of sweaty, brawny men, and…

    um…

    heartland.

  67. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:54

    I hope he’s leftwing Sockpuppet. Its a shame really that here in America a candidate for President has to hide his/her progressive beliefs in order to be electable. I hope we move past this soon. You’re lucky to live in Western Europe Sockpuppet, not alot of wingnuts there I here.

  68. N.C. said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:54

    I liked the little “ipso loquitor” pirouette at the end of Truth’s “the liberals are the true racists” spiel. That’s just classy. You can practically see his eyes sparkle at the chance to sprinkle a little Latin in his Jonanism.

  69. handy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:54

    Jimmy Carter remains the last Democratic President elected by a majority, a record of which even the Cubs would be ashamed.

    You’re a sad, pathetic POS, a bully, a liar, and a scouldrel. How dare you bring the Cubs into this?

    I hope you’re proud of yourself.

  70. Fozzetti said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:56

    We must hope and pray that it wasn’t a LOBBIEST’S chicken wings! Blatant Public Bribery!

    Tho the image of Senator Obama strolling through a restaurant and casually helping himself from a stranger’s table is pretty funny. Wasn’t there an SNL episode where Bill Clinton visited a McDonalds?

  71. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:58

    Okay, I nearly wet myself here..

    “And they have long gotten past primitive notions of patriotism and national pride which would only mean more foolish wars and sectarian strife”

    Dude. Ever been to a european sporting event? Read a european tabloid?

    The shocking truth is that the european version of national identity is based on, you know.. thousands of years of history, culture, and innumerable bloody wars.

  72. ckc (not kc) said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:58

    lobb, lobbier, lobbiest?

  73. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 0:59

    Are all trolls parody trolls, or does it just seem like it?

    Around these parts, a real troll is a rare and wondrous thing. I’m not sure there have been any real trolls around here regularly since 2006 or so.

  74. Ripley said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:03

    Is Barack Obama compensating for his despair over the latest CNN Poll — that shows Obama in a dead heat with McCain, and with ZERO convention bounce — by taking other peoples’ food?

    Yes, that’s exactly what’s happening, Dr. Missus Old Senator Frist. You really nailed that one, oh boy, indeedy! Why, you’ve probably won the election for Old Man McCain with that quip! hooo ha!

    Is there no end to your cleverness, Susan? Fucking pathetic..

  75. Gary Ruppert said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:04

    The fact is, I am real.

  76. El Cid said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:06

    Well, except, it’s “ipsa” in res ipsa loquitur, as opposed to “ipso” in ipso facto, but, you know, as long as it’s fake right wing ranting, and you’re trying to pretend once again that conservatives admire the history of Western tradition and Latin, when they’re not making fun of eating arugula, which the Romans ate all the time, who cares.

  77. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:06

    I’m not a troll guys, I’m one of you.

    It just so happens that I believe that for America to become a truly progressive society it would be wise for us to emulate Western Europe.

    Look how far they’ve come. A overwhelming majority of Europeans don’t think war is justified under any circumstances even defensive wars.

    The majority of Europeans support same-sex marriage and are not bigoted towards homosexuals like most Americans are.

    Most Europeans oppose capital punishment.

    Xianity is a thing of the past in most parts of Western Europe.

    I don’t understand why some of you here think I’m a troll just because I think America should become more like Europe?

    Let me ask you a question, which society is currently more progressive, American or Western European?

  78. Me said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:11

    The fact, um, is, that any time the Democrats deign to run someone with a pulse, they win. Just look at the list in the last 28 years: Carter, Mondale, Dukakis, Clinton, Gore, Kerry. Out of all those, only Clinton knew how to keep people awake during a speech. Carter only won in ‘76 because the Republican brand was in the toilet. Kind of like now.

  79. Simba B said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:11

    Well if you are genuine, you should know that there are a number of western European regulars here (hell the site founder is French-Canadian and lives in Germany) and I’m going to wager you have never been nor heard first-hand from anyone who actually lives there what it’s like.

    You sound a little, shall we say, naieve. Hence people thinking you are a parody of some liberal stereotypes.

    We’re just this side of insane, so if you are indeed genuine, don’t mind us too much and be sure not to feed the Ruppert.

  80. Smut Clyde said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:12

    Us coastal elites don’t kowtow to hoi polloi like Obama
    Bonus pedantry points to Negagary!!

  81. BtI said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:12

    It’s true. English national identity is based on hating the French, resenting the Scots, despising the Irish and patronising the Welsh.

    Hell, you want to see political polarisation, try Belgium.

    It’s just that nowadays we just fight our wars with bad tabloid puns and football hooligans, rather than with tanks and terrorbombing.

  82. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:13

    Thanks Simba, will do.

  83. Gary Ruppert said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:13

    The fact is, I am hungry. Feed me, Heartland.

  84. Fluffybunnyfeet said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:16

    “The fact is, I am real.”

    Uh-huh, sure, Rupps.

    You know what they say about having to affirm it…

  85. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:18

    It’s just that nowadays we just fight our wars with bad tabloid puns and football hooligans, rather than with tanks and terrorbombing.

    Well, that’s certainly a step in the right direction. I for one am objectively pro-pun. You might say I’m a member of the punditry.

  86. handy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:20

    So are we gonna start a pool on how many weeks (days?) before McCain dumps Palin and decides to start over again?

  87. El Cid said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:21

    Shouldn’t Obama be among the poi polloi?

  88. republicans steal elections said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:22

    Teh STOOPID at that website burns…looka this:

    “The close up chicken picture is very revealing. Like his 60 minutes interview. I work in an ER where we see users all the time, the way you can tell they want drugs is their eyes. During the interview with Biden his eyes had the same look I’ve seen a thousand times. I think he’s actively using something but of course the media doesn’t care at this point. Not unless it’s Clinton, McCain or now Palin.”

    If McPOW wins in Nov this country is done for. This time it’s for real.

  89. Clint said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:24

    No! Barack! Those chicken wings are really spicy! Don’t eat those!

    I’ve never seen a man eat so many chicken wings…

    I’ve never seen a man eat so many chicken wings…

    I’ve never seen a man eat so many chicken wings…

    /infinity

  90. handy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:24

    RSE that comment has got to be a troll. Then again, the stupid is pretty strong with that site, so one can never be totally sure.

  91. Tim (The Other One) said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:24

    “Shouldn’t Obama be among the poi polloi?”

    I knew there was a reason I was watching Rutgers play Fresno State.

  92. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:25

    Dead on Btl. However, it is more complicated than that. There is nothing more English than an Englishman driving home from work in his german car, ordering indian takeaway, putting his feet up on his swedish sofa, turning on his japanese TV, and watching american programmes, whilst drinking belgian lager.

    We have exactly the same number of wingnuts as you Americans. Possibly more. However, our definition of wingnut is a bit different. Being in favour of the death penalty makes one a wingnut. Being against nationalised healthcare makes one a wingnut who needs attention from the men in white coats.

    Humour me, Coastal elite man. How old are you? This touching display of naivety suggests you are on the young side shall we say.

  93. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:25

    More wars of aggression, tax cuts for the super rich, and state sanctioned murder. More of the same from McSame me thinks.

    I just hope my intution proves correct and Obama is a true progressive. Regardless, I do think Obama will win.

  94. The Truth said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:25

    Yeah, S,N!, it was pretty obvious to me that coastal elite man had never been to Europe. I’d have been happy to correct him, only it seems you’ve done it already. Too bad - it would have been fun.

    Here is a charming little story in which the Protestant bigots of Glasgow end up being the more progressive party. Enjoy, CEM. Someday you will get to go overseas - my suspicion is that you will be surprised.

    And CEM, what do you mean that affirmative action is the noblest thing that the US has ever done? Surely that honor must be reserved for the voluntary destruction of unwanted children! Get with the liberal program.

  95. ice weasel said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:25

    The fact is, wings are white meat. Which makes it that much worse.

    Just sayin.

  96. Clint said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:26

    Next up from the crack reporting team at No Quarter:

    Sources tell this reporter that Barack Obama’s motorcade pulled into a local convention center, and Obama simply walked in to give a speech… WITHOUT PAYING A PARKING FEE!

  97. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:27

    I’m 19.

  98. bad person said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:27

    barbeque chicken wings therefore european style social welfare.
    rorshach rhetoric!

  99. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:29

    Actually, it is more like ignoring the scots, being contemptuous of the irish, and not acknowledging any welsh national identity, because they are a principality anyway.

    And hating the french? our love/hate relationship with the french is part of our national identity! You yanks and your freedom fries are just jumping on the bandwagon 1000 years too late.

  100. Djur said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:30

    BtI: Hi.

    Everyone: Note that CEM reacted to general remarks about trolls by drawing himself up and declaiming “why! how DARE you accuse me of being a troll! I’m one of YOU!” Nobody accused him of being one and yet he seemed sensitive to the accusation. Interesting.

    “the voluntary destruction of unwanted children” — Hee hee, Twooth is such a dumbass.

  101. The Truth said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:30

    Coastal elite man admitted

    I’m 19

    Don’t let them make you feel unwelcome, CEM. There is a nice mix here of naive college students, failed artists, and grey ponytails. With your embarrassing screed on Europe you are fitting right in.

  102. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:31

    Keep spewing your rightwing bile Troofy boy. You’re old man is gonna get creamed on election night. The American people have spoken and they have said no to war, no to state sanctioned murder and no to the Rethuglicans fascist agenda. You just can’t stand the idea of a black President can you Troofy? Racist pig.

  103. handy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:32

    Surely that honor must be reserved for the voluntary destruction of unwanted children! Get with the liberal program.

    Your argument is rather odd. Why wouldn’t anyone be proud of such a program? (I in fact have three T-shirts with the slogan “Vote Democrat: We kill more unborn babies by 9 AM than the army does in three weeks”). Clearly everyone is, therefore you are actually arguing for liberals. QED.

    Now try again a little harder next time.

  104. republicans steal elections said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:32

    “Surely that honor must be reserved for the voluntary destruction of unwanted children!”

    No, that honor belongs to the voluntary endangerment of unborn children by a woman in labor who takes an 8-hour plane flight to Alaska.

  105. Djur said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:33

    “college students … artists … ponytails … embarrassing screed … bill. bill! BILL! WILLIAM AYERS! AYYYYYYYYYY”

    Could someone get that bottle of Wm. Buckley’s Numinous Elbow Cream away from Twooth, please?

  106. ckc (not kc) said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:33

    With your embarrassing screed on Europe you are fitting right in.

    …and you’ve got about 11 (mental) years on Truthy

  107. Djur said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:34

    OK, I officially deem CEM a parody troll at this point due to the “racist pig” bit. That’s too precious.

  108. republicans steal elections said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:35

    “You just can’t stand the idea of a black President can you Troofy?”

    1 1/2 seconds after Obama wins the election, the whackjobs/republicans will be whining about how the Iraq war is all his fault and why hasn’t he ended it yet? They will also whine and scream about how the Federal Deficit is all his fault, and that the powers of the Executive Branch to wiretap and put anybody it wants in jail for no reason at all are suddenly a Bad Thing and need to end RIGHT NOW!

  109. handy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:36

    What, the blatantly bad spelling and grammatical errors weren’t enough to tip you off?

  110. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:36

    To be totally honest.. I would happily yell “fuck the pope” at a footy match. Why not? I am a liberal atheist, and the Catholic church is a criminal organisation with a long long history of oppression and killing.

    The truth is, most of the bigotry in europe is completely incomprehensible to outsiders, and often based on history many times older than the united states of america.

  111. LittlePig said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:37

    OK, I officially deem CEM a parody troll at this point due to the “racist pig” bit. That’s too precious.

    Agreed. “blackman” is an odd construction, too.

  112. Tim (The Other One) said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:39

    “failed artists”

    Okay, that was just uncalled for !

  113. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:43

    The ‘blackman’ thing is what set my radar a-pingin’ as well.

  114. SamFromUtah said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:43

    Hence people thinking you are a parody of some liberal stereotypes.

    Pretty much. The punctuation looks a lot like our recent namestealer’s, too.

    Not sure what the point is, though.

  115. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:44

    Guys, I’m not a troll and I’m certainly not a conservative pretending to be a liberal if thats what you think.

    I’m a leftwing socialist who agrees with you guys about most of the things I’ve read on this blog. Why can’t you guys be more welcoming to newcomers?

  116. Ed Marshall said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:45

    OT, but SPPD just beat up Amy Goodman and arrested her. Got raw audio here

  117. Ed Marshall said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:46

    Should make an interesting democracy now! tomorrow.

  118. jim said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:48

    Mmm, is dat some Kentucky-Fried-Troll I smells heah?

    Ah, you want to feast on Palin’s family.

    Personally, I don’t give a flaming wombat-shit about her (heinous) family life - but what little I’m seeing bodes ill for any folks unfortunate enough to be under her governance. No, I want to see her hoist on her own petard of corruption, deceit & megalomania, & made to return to her home state in complete disgrace, so that all the nice people in Alaska don’t have to worry about more sad shite like vengeance-firings, cutting police & emergency funds while spending a mint on sports-facilities, or $20 million deficits for towns of circa 7,000 from this nasty little cunt, ever again. But not until she does history the favor she plainly owes it by being The Kiss Of Death to the GOP in 2008. For once, I may well be getting my wish. Getting that Mecha-My-Little-Pony would still have been cooler though, IMHO.

    NEXT!

    I think to really make a splash, you need your wife, a professional affirmative action officer, to publically show her disdain for whites; you need your pastor to damn America; you need to hang around with Ayers and Rezko.

    Yes, but I’ll only let her show her disdain for whites after I’m done beating her … ooopsy, sorry, wrong troll. You all smell so much alike to me, it’s easy to get mixed up. If she’s an officer I sure hope I outrank her, since I’d dearly LOVE me some K-P Duty right about now. Oh, bollocks - I’m still not married. Shit howdy! I didn’t even know I HAD any g.d. pastor. Does that make me pastorized? Methinks America is damning itself quite categorically without any input from pastors, though - & the rest of the world seems to agree with me on that one. As for “hanging around” with these mysterious Ayers & Rezko people, not gonna happen: I’m one of the least gregarious people I know.

    You know, Troutmeister, you could literally make more sense if you just turned out the lights & smacked at random on the keyboard with your dick. That, at least, would be making an actual statement of some sort.

  119. gil mann said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:49

    If that dude’s real, I applaud his political views, and pray to God he never corners me at a party.

  120. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:49

    ‘leftwing socialist’. Uh huh. Try harder.

  121. SamFromUtah said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:52

    Uh huh. Try harder.

    Yeah, I’m curious to hear what other kinds of socialists there are.

    What does “left wing” mean, Not A Troll?

  122. mikey said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:53

    The creepiest thing of all is these demonstrations, preemptive arrests, heavy handed police tactics, violence and anti-constitutional behaviors are NEWS.

    No matter what your “ideological bent” might be, it is beyond weird that big media isn’t covering this.

    It was front and center in Chicago in ‘68. It’s freakin NEWS.

    And it’s not being reported.

    If you wanted any evidence that the game is over, and we lost?

    There it is…

    mikey

  123. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:54

    To be quite honest, CEM reminds me of my “anarchist” phase when I was 13. Okay, it only lasted a few weeks, but still. One day, CEM will grow up into a cynical liberal blogger, and look back on his naive youth with embarrassment.

    I suspect “the truth” is a hugely pretentious performance artist.

  124. g said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:54

    Why can’t you guys be more welcoming to newcomers?

    Hell, this IS welcoming. You should see us when we’re not.

  125. Ripley said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:55

    Why can’t you guys be more welcoming to newcomers?

    It’s not the newcomers we mind, it’s the prematurecomers.

  126. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:55

    Guys be realistic. If I was a conservative troll why would I have torn Troofy a new one like I did?

    Conservatives don’t talk that way to each other. That alone should be proof enough that I’m a progressive. Come on guys, I admire you all especially mikey. So come on, give me a chance to redeem myself.

    I due time you’ll realize that I am just as progressive as everyone else on this blog.

  127. Smut Clyde said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:56

    Why can’t you guys be more welcoming to newcomers?
    Clearly you were not warned about the initiation rituals.

  128. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:58

    Ed Marshall - That St. Paul situation is totally out of hand. I listened to the audio. I hope somebody got some video of the arrest. Let’s hope this comes back to bite them in the ass.

  129. gil mann said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:58

    Mikey, don’t sweat it. America’s just a parody troll of a fascist police state.

  130. g said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:58

    there are drugs you can take to help cure that unfortunate sense of earnestness, CEM.

  131. mikey said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:00

    #

    gil mann said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:58

    Mikey, don’t sweat it. America’s just a parody troll of a fascist police state.

    Goddamit.

    I’ve ALWAYS hated performance art…

    mikey

  132. N.C. said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:00

    My grandma used to have a dog that would get so excited whenever he met someone new, he’d hop up and down on his back legs and piss all over the place.

    There’s a parallel I’d like to draw here.

  133. The Truth said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:01

    Don’t look at me, CEM, I don’t like you either.

  134. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:02

    So.. Are there actually more protesters at the RNC than Republicans?

  135. N.C. said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:02

    Meanwhile, The Truth is like my other grandma’s dog that had explosive diarrhea.

  136. Rightwingsnarkle said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:08

    Ah, you want to feast on Palin’s family.

    I dunno. How much white meat’s on a Palin?

  137. SamFromUtah said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:09

    Are there actually more protesters at the RNC than Republicans?

    I think there are probably more protesters at the RNC than there are people who will admit to having voted for Dubya. And I mean people anywhere in the U.S. who will admit to that.

  138. Ed Marshall said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:12

    I hope somebody got some video of the arrest.

    Latest word is she was arrested for “probable cause for riot”.

    Uh, yeah.

    This is Amy Freaking Goodman. If they can get away with this, this country is in worse shape than I thought. If Goodman is famous for anything it’s her work reporting against the Burmese Junta, and now she gets her ass kicked for reporting by the SPPD?!?!?

  139. null pointer exception said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:13

    The Truth is a fucking idiot. Dalits in the US weren’t sold into slavery here. They applied for work or education visa, went through a rigorous vetting process by USCIS and only then were they granted visa. The often talked about success of Indian and other “model minorities” in the US is more a function of US visa process than any inherent characteristics of the race itself.

    And btw, in order to be qualified for the US visa, those Dalits had to go through 4 years of college. And guess what helped them? Indian version of ‘affirmative action’. Since 1947 India has had an extensive system of assisting backward castes (yup, that’s what they are called. I shit you not) , scheduled castes and scheduled tribes. And yes, many Indian upper caste people also bitch about it occasionally.

  140. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:15

    I think there are probably more protesters at the RNC than there are people who will admit to having voted for Dubya. And I mean people anywhere in the U.S. who will admit to that.

    I saw a faded W ‘04 bumper sticker on an SUV the other day. The partner and I looked at each other and I said, “Wow, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen one of those!” Still see a few Kerry/Edwards stickers.

  141. mat said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:16

    Is it me or does McCain look more and more like a creepy ghoul with each passing day? He doesn’t look well.

  142. Andre said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:17

    So given that Obama was stealing, and was stealing fried chicken at that, does that make him too black or not black enough?

    I mean, if he was spending his welfare on fried chicken instead of stealing it from other black folks (like a white man should) he’d be “just black enough”.

  143. Ed Marshall said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:17

    Video here, she didn’t get mauled but it’s still fucked up.

  144. Mehitabel the Abyssinian said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:17

    I eat too much of the dry food and throw it all up again.
    I cn hz job as troll??

  145. tb said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:17

    This was on fuckface Mark Halperin’s page for a while too, though maybe he realized it makes him look like a racist fucking asshole, because it’s gone now.

  146. Andre said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:18

    OK, I just read my last comment again, and even though I wrote it as a parody, it’s impossible to tell the difference anymore.

  147. thelogos said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:20

    Whitey: The First White Meat….

  148. Andre said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:23

    There are moments when I wonder if we aren’t living in some surreal blaxploitation flick.

  149. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:23

    I’ve just been looking at pictures of the RNC venue.. What a ghost town! It is quite heartening really! I’l be interested to see how the neilsen ratings compare..

  150. mikey said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:24

    Not that I’m terribly opposed to being the bearer of bad tidings, I suppose, but there are kind of 2 stages to the devolution of a representative democracy into an authoritarian police state.

    In the first stage, the state stifles dissent, beats, intimidates and arrests protesters, enforces “the public order”, but generally hides it behind a veneer of due process. Most of those arrested are eventually released, most of those actually charged are acquitted.

    In the second stage, things have gotten more serious. It becomes necessary for the police state to arrest both lawyers and journalists to prevent the documentation of their abuses from being used to cause genuine concern and consternation among the otherwise preoccupied population, and to prevent due process from protecting the dissenters from being effectively intimidated into silence.

    In China and East Germany, for example, they came at it from the other side - people knew that to dissent was to be arrested, tortured, imprisoned and killed. In a declining democracy, the people don’t have that built-in caution. But if the news can be managed, if the journalists actually covering the abuses of power can be shut down, if lawyers can be convinced there is better, safer, more profitable work outside of politics, then they win.

    They appear to have won…

    mikey

  151. Blue Buddha said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:26

    Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 1:58

    Ed Marshall - That St. Paul situation is totally out of hand. I listened to the audio. I hope somebody got some video of the arrest. Let’s hope this comes back to bite them in the ass.

    Hahahahahaha! That’s a good one! Tens of thousands of people were arrested at the RNC convention in 2004, and even though they tried filing a lawsuit, not a damned thing happened last I heard.

    What happened in NYC was that the cops sealed off entire blocks and arrested everyone within that perimeter. If you were on the subway and happened to get off at one of these locations, you were arrested as soon as you walked up the stairs. Apparently, many people arrested at RNC ‘04 were charged with the crime of taking public transportation.

  152. alec said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:26

    Video of the Amy Goodman arrest is here.

  153. handy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:27

    Damn, mikey, you really know how to bum a guy out, man.

  154. Blue Buddha said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:29

    Andre said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:23

    There are moments when I wonder if we aren’t living in some surreal blaxploitation flick.

    – Y’know that Obama is one mean mutha…

    – SAY WHA?! Watch yo’ mouth!

    – But I’m talkin’ about Obama

    – Then we can dig it!

  155. alec said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:31

    Latest word is she was arrested for “probable cause for riot”.

    Uh, yeah.

    This is Amy Freaking Goodman. If they can get away with this, this country is in worse shape than I thought. If Goodman is famous for anything it’s her work reporting against the Burmese Junta, and now she gets her ass kicked for reporting by the SPPD?!?!?

    The grounds for arrest is ‘conspiracy to riot’, a law either put into the books or dusted off the moment they decided to hold the RNC in the state - it had never been used and is grossly over-broad and unconstitutional, targeting people as it does on the grounds of speech or assembly. (My guess is that it’s a product of our infamous misconception that there are reasonable limits on freedom of speech - maybe, but they stop well short of abetting assembly.)

    If there’s one rose to come out of this lake of shit, it’s Goodman’s arrest - it’s high-profile enough that it’ll almost certainly force the case to the Supreme Court, and with any luck the normally dilatory behavior of the police in these circumstances will invariably put it on the docket of a court with Obama appointees.

  156. mikey said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:32

    Well, handy, now we’re gonna see how many truly “patriotic americans” there actually are.

    mikey

  157. alec said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:33

    Oh yeah, and read Greenwald - he’s been documenting similar arrests, abuses, and federal involvement(!!!) in this shit. Goodman is just the most prominent example, and she hasn’t been gassed, tazed, shot, had her home invaded, or had her computers, journals, and pamphlets stolen.

  158. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:33

    Thing is though, this arrest has gone viral. My son says they are talking about it on WoW. I think the situation has changed somewhat since 2004. Also, I don’t think the SPPD knew who they were arresting.

    Called my local rag and insisted they cover this. We should all call our local media and raise hell. Become a thorn in their side. It might not make a difference, hell, it probably won’t, but it’s worth a shot.

  159. Andre said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:34

    mikey: While I agree with you that things are tending in a depressingly bleak directtion sometimes, it’s important to remember that this ain’t your grandma’s authoritarian police state no more.

    As modern China and Russia have shown, brute force is no longer needed to keep people in line. Instead, you simply control their sources of information about their country and the world, until they refuse to believe the things that are right in front of their noses, because they don’t accord with “common sense”.

    Journalists and lawyers are no longer outside looking in, they’re inside with their eyes closed, whether they believe they are or not.

    This isn’t the fascism of Orwell, but of Phillip K. Dick.

    That’s the real threat to modern democracy-not tanks in the streets and beatings of protesters, but the apathy that makes such events irrelevant.

  160. mikey said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:35

    If there’s one rose to come out of this lake of shit, it’s Goodman’s arrest - it’s high-profile enough that it’ll almost certainly force the case to the Supreme Court

    Yeah, right. Dood, you think these people are playing for peanuts? They’re in this to win ALL the marbles.

    They’ll drop any charges. And if AG sues, they’ll offer a settlement. One of the lower courts will send it to arbitration. On that basis, the appeals courts won’t hear it. The law stays on the books, and the system keeps grinding on.

    Try again. Try HARDER….

    mikey

  161. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:36

    I think we got off to a bad start. I apologize if my comments seemed trollish. Regardless, Obama will win this election and America will be on the way to becoming a true classless society. I assure you, Obama will enact a true progressive agenda when he gets in office and America will finally be joining the rest of the civilized world.

  162. Batocchio said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:36

    Crap, these people need medication, therapy and a life, not necessarily in that order.

  163. Ed Marshall said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:37

    Regardless, Obama will win this election and America will be on the way to becoming a true classless society.

    Shalom, gentlemen.

  164. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:37

    I think America is blazing a new socio-political trail. How to mix a police state with enough democracy that most of the citizens still think they have their nice representative democracy.

    Usually, when an election is stolen in a police state, they don’t bother to cover it up. In America, stolen elections are surrounded by so much political discussion, legal battles, and talk of freedom and democracy, that most people don’t ever notice the theft.

    An awful lot of political effort in the USA goes not towards governing, or campaigning.. but to convincing the public that they still have a healthy democracy.

    So far, America hasn’t really had to arrest the journalists. The process is to simply marginalise them, and drown them out with propaganda. That is just a reaction to the better communications technology of our times. You can’t stop the information from being gathered, but you can stop it being heard and understood by enough people for it to make a difference.

  165. Blue Buddha said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:41

    Andre said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:34

    Journalists and lawyers are no longer outside looking in, they’re inside with their eyes closed, whether they believe they are or not.

    This isn’t the fascism of Orwell, but of Phillip K. Dick.

    That’s the real threat to modern democracy-not tanks in the streets and beatings of protesters, but the apathy that makes such events irrelevant.

    In some ways Huxley’s Brave New World is more appropriate than Orwell’s 1984for today’s world. It’s not that people are banned from information, it’s just that they would rather find entertainment than information.

  166. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:41

    My sentiments exactly Sockpuppet. Lets just hope that Obama will have the moral courage to reverse this dangerous precedent the Bush Administration set in place in order to manipulate the American people into a false sense of security while they continue to chip away at our civil liberties.

  167. Righteous Bubba said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:42

    As modern China and Russia have shown, brute force is no longer needed to keep people in line.

    Journalists die in both places.

  168. mikey said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:42

    Andre is right. Then he is righter. And then he is right again.

    In Russia, they have made a pact with their people. We won’t fuck with your economic freedom, if you stay out of politics and let us run the show.

    In China, it’s both simpler and more dicey. As long as they can keep raising the standard of living, nobody’s gonna complain about tibet of falun gong.

    In america, the information genie’s totally out of the bottle, but it’s the apathy monster that’s choking off our freedoms.

    As Greenwald says, they’re just setting up a condition where it’s SAFE to shut up and let them break the law, and it’s positively RISKY to challenge them, in spite of your right to do so.

    Not with a bang, but with a whimper.

    Unless Americans can rouse themselves and understand what is being taken away from them, the horse has left the barn, the door is closed, and just to be safe they’re burning down the barn.

    mikey

  169. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:43

    It makes them look really bad when they arrest a nice, personable lady, known for being a respected public citizen, who’s merely trying to express her free speech and assembly rights. She’s not someone who in any stretch of the imagination can be viewed as the wild-eyed dangerous anarchist fantasy that scares suburban America out of its limited wits.

    The ACLU is all over this “conspiracy to riot” bullshit. And as alec says, Greenwald has been on it. I’m not ready to give up as long as these guys are still standing.

  170. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:45

    The problem with the former Soviet Union and China is that they gave lip service to the teachings of Karl Marx, while at the same time they enacted a repressive police state. Something Marx was adamently opposed to. They aren’t communist any more than McCain is a maverick.

  171. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:48

    jebus I sound naive with that comment. I’m still capable of being starry eyed about the ACLU. I guess even the most cynical of us may still have some heroes.

  172. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:48

    Oh, it is all going to fall down.. Lets be totally honest. This shit wasn’t something new, brought in by Bush. The panem et circenses politics has been the norm in America for.. well, at least 30 years, if not more.

    But the shit is about to hit the fan. They have run out of the panem! That is why the circuses have been so much bigger and gaudier this year.. To distract us all from the lack of bread.

    Imagine what would happen to Chinas politics without the massive economic growth. Now imagine the exact same thing happening to the USA as its economy comes crashing down.

    There is a good joke in it somewhere.. “How do you get an American to pay attention to anything that isn’t on TV?” Ruin his nations economy until the ballifs take his TV away!”

  173. coastal elite infiltrator said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:49

    Hey man, I hate the reichtards too! I’m looking for a classless society where the racist pigs are on the run.

    Now, anyone want to help me smash up Mercedes?

  174. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:50

    Karl Marx was also opposed to military expansionism, something Russia and China have both engaged in. China is not a communist country. China is actually a fascist state run by a very wealthy military heirarchy. There present supposedly “communist” government is very nationalistic and oppressive. More in line with facsism than with true communism.

  175. mikey said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:51

    Memo to that Coastal Elitist:

    So whatever. Maybe you are, maybe you aren’t.

    But Ur doing it worng.

    Think a bit. Remember you’re writing for an audience of educated, smart, thoughtful people.

    A whole bunch of drooling adolescent lib-worship doesn’t go here. We’re pretty much all on board that train. So, if you’re not a troll (I have my doubts, but hey - who knows?) then slow down. Think about the issue at hand. Don’t repeat obvious points, analyze the question and come at it from a fresh perspective. Say something interesting, or at least challenging.

    Or make a poop joke…

    mikey

  176. Greasemonkey said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:53

    Greasemonkey butler pie scripts for everyone!

  177. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:53

    Thanks mikey, I’ll eventually get the hang of this place.

  178. Tim (The Other One) said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:54

    ” It’s not that people are banned from information, it’s just that they would rather find entertainment than information.”

    In a nutshell.

  179. Righteous Bubba said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:55

    TPM has a pretty cute Palin the Train pic up.

  180. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 2:57

    I think that even though I can see that this crazy police-state shit is happening, I just can’t quite believe it is happening. But I know it’s been happening for some time, and to the extent Americans know about it at all, they just yawn and go on about their lives. “Two elderly nuns arrested for protesting at the School of the Americas and then actually sent to prison? Gee, I’m sure the government had good reasons for it. (yawn) Hey, did you see there’s a sale at Dillard’s?” Fuck. We really are screwed.

  181. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:00

    The Chinese government is part of the problem not the solution. Karl Marx would be appaled if he could see what that regime does in his name. The free trade program with America is only helping the super rich in the Chinese government. Its doing nothing for the common working class man. Communism as Marx envisoned it sadly does not exist. Western European Social Democracy is the closest we have to true communism but is still quite aways off from what Marx had in mind.

  182. Ed Marshall said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:07

    Is CEM, Saul? What do the IP’s say?

  183. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:08

    .. This guy is like the textbook for the DFH 101 class.. Except without any commas.

  184. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:10

    Come on guys. What makes you think I’m a troll? I’m a progressive. I believe everything I’ve said. What do I have to do to convince you that I’m one of you?

  185. Rightwingsnarkle said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:10

    There’s a SALE AT DILLARDS???!!!11!

  186. ckc (not kc) said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:10

    say something funny

  187. Righteous Bubba said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:11

    What do I have to do to convince you that I’m one of you?

    Call yourself a poogressive. Right now.

  188. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:13

    Dick Cheney is like the rare white elk. He’s seen by the public just as frequently. And he looks like a frog.

  189. owlbear1 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:13

    Naw, make him stomp on a picture of Ronald Reagan.

    That ALWAYS gives them away…

  190. ckc (not kc) said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:14

    ha ha ha

  191. coastal elitist man said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:16

    I bet you that all the sasquach sightings in the northwest were really sightings of Dick Cheney hunting.

  192. Lexaburn said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:16

    Good gracious, is TROOF still here being pesky? Bastard’s looking for attention. I know that it is slowly dawning on these GOP bitches that their time has come. Take their taunts with a grain of salt. The attempts at stagecraft by their benefactors this week is like a high school play featuring greasers and stoners. There’s no real enthusiasm. NONE! Any that is there at that (R)attrap in the next three days will confirm that the GOP is doling out massive quantities of ecstasy.

    Blaaaaaahahahahahaaaaaaaa!

    Then there’s Bush and Cheney being “too busy” to show up and give their respective speeches.

    Now tell me…who breathed a heavy sigh of relief first: Bush and Cheney for talking themselves out of the commitment, or the dumb bastards scheduling that hilariously considered turning the damned thing into a fucking telethon? Shit, all I know is they were all lying when they said that they were sorry they couldn’t be there: Bush, Cheney, and the RNC committee members.

    Palin…I’ll get to the Alaskan Diva later. Ooh, man, this soap opera’s getting good. Palin nearly rivals Erica Kane.

    Hahahahaaaaaa! You GOP fruitloops are hysterical!

  193. Righteous Bubba said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:25

    Tossed Tropical Turkey with Toasted Treetops

    Ingredients:
    1 turkey
    1 pinch tropical treetop, prohibitively peppered
    1 zesty tofu
    6 jiggers absolute tiger tongue, tossed
    4 pints garlic
    1 ounce ginger

    Unblushingly grease a cookie sheet. Place the turkey into a large cup. Use a food processor to mix the tofu with the treetop. Stuff the resulting goo into the turkey. Broil - very quickly - the tiger tongue, garlic, and the ginger. Heap the latter combination on to the former. Grill for 11 hours. Serves 9 many individuals with medieval stomachs.

  194. El Cid said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:29

    Ha! Now in America, Election steal you! Ha!

  195. Cain said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:34

    Sockpuppet has spoken the very truth about Europe.

    Also to add, Europe seems to be undergoing a generally rightward swing right now. Its nowhere as near as bad as the USA, probably due to entrenched social-democratic institutions, but the right has swept the board among the movers and shakers in Europe, and the UK is set for a Tory victory right now. Plus we keep producing incredibly shrill and tedious retards in quite large quantities, who go on about Mooslims secretly taking over the country, how the EU is a secret communist conspiracy, how the BBC is a hotbed of Marxist-Liberal radicalism etc etc.

    So yeah, if you’re going to copy us, try and copy the stuff you see in The Guardian or Le Monde - do not, for the love of God, get your ideas about the European way from the Daily Mail or Express newspapers.

  196. Sockpuppet #47 said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:34

    On the subject of good recipes, I can strongly recommended adding a bit of cocoa powder to chilli. You need to be quite daring though, especially if your chilli is strong. About a heaped teaspoon per person does it for the mild chillis i make. You might have to add even more. It sounds like a weird thing to put in, but it helps add a subtle aftertaste.

  197. Individual With Medieval Stomach said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:35

    Damn. That shit sounds good.

    Got any Haggis to go with it?

  198. Candy said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:35

    I used to date a guy who would always add a dash of cinnamon to scrambled eggs. Sounds weird, tasted pretty good.

  199. Rightwingsnarkle said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:36

    Just in case anybody needs a break, it’s Dirty Fucking Hippie YouTube Monday over at my place.

    I love Dirty Fucking Hippie YouTube Monday.

  200. Coastal Ruppert said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:39

    The fact is, Europe is great, you racist pigs.

  201. Squatches Against Dick said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:42

    I bet you that all the sasquach [sic] sightings in the northwest were really sightings of Dick Cheney hunting.

    You sir, shall be hearing from our attorneys regarding this outrageous libel!

  202. commie atheist said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:42

    Sarah Palin is Keyser Soze!

    Sarah Palin was allegedly a part of a secessionist Alaskan party before she became a Republican. She also was so independent of the Alaskan Republican culture of corruption that she ran Ted Stevens’ 527.
    By this time tomorrow, we’re going to find out she introduced AIDS to the human population in between fabricating the moon landing and overthrowing the Shah.

    http://pandagon.net/index.php/site/sarah_palin_is_keyser_soze/

    And from comments (possibly photoshopped, but what the hell):

    http://pics.livejournal.com/nothingmuch/pic/0003z6hf

  203. ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:43

    So yeah, if you’re going to copy us, try and copy the stuff you see in The Guardian or Le Monde - do not, for the love of God, get your ideas about the European way from the Daily Mail or Express newspapers.

    Also, Rupert Murdoch is an evil alien from outer space who lives on a diet of rats.

  204. alec said,

    September 2, 2008 at 3:44

    Karl Marx was also opposed to military expansionism, something Russia and China have both engaged in. China is not a communist country. China is actually a fascist state run by a very wealthy military heirarchy. There present supposedly “communist” government is very nationalistic and oppressive. More in line with facsism than with true communism.

    Guys, this is the kind of distinction a righty troll would probably avoid. They honestly believe that Russia is just hiding Teh Bolshevizm from us, waiting to spring it on us when we least expect it, and further that we DFHs are quietly salivating over the prospect. Concern trolls are kind of easy to detect in that they honestly believe all of their bugbears are working together - so it’s difficult for them to imagine someone who wants open borders yet fears the hated Chinee’s Maoist menace.

    China’s not just fascist but increasingly a showcase for security-state behaviors. Naomi Klein (q.v.) wrote about China exhibiting shit during the Olympics that we’re just now beginning to use for our grand right-wing circuses; the way it generally works is China -> some European middleman (generally the UK) -> the US. The great innovation we’re seeing at work here is our cutting out the middleman and using Chinese methods, hardware, and software directly.

    The arresting journalists is just crass - the kind of shit China did twenty years ago. It isn’t a sign of increasing authoritarianism, just ineptitude at it.

    (And incidentally, I’ve always been profoundly ske