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		<title>By: TBogg &#187; Mazel Tov! Now why don&#8217;t we do it in the road&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>TBogg &#187; Mazel Tov! Now why don&#8217;t we do it in the road&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Post-Virgin Ben and Mrs. Ben have moved back to California where he is being harassed by Islamocaltransworkers and we discover that  the twenty-something year old newlyweds can&#8217;t think of anything to do [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cthulhu</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/11064.html#comment-669409</link>
		<dc:creator>cthulhu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too late for anyone to likely read this but perhaps a good coda to this comment section.  My wife and family were also stuck in the same jam on the same night as Ben (wonder if we drove alongside of him at any point).  He is right about the insanity of the signage: it all appeared too late and with too little information (e.g., where) to avoid the jam.

But here is where the liberal and conservative mind differ.  Operating under very little sleep the night before I was still able to realize that this was an unusual situation.  My experience has been that CalTrans is generally quite good about road closure warnings, often deploying signs 100+ miles in advance, especially in the case of a full closure.  Moreover, I noticed that there were a large number of truckers caught in the jam.  I found this very suspicious as they almost always operate from up-to-date traffic info.

So, instead of simply bitching into the air, I sent an e-mail to CalTrans asking what was up.  To be honest, I didn&#039;t expect much (anti-govt conservative propaganda has seeped somewhat into my brain).  And yet I received a personal, well-written response from a CalTrans spokeswoman within 30 minutes.  Turns out that it wasn&#039;t CalTrans but an LA County project.  Due to what had happened with the jam on Sunday night (the signs that were up indicated that the closure was to be repeated the next night), CalTrans was now working with the county project and was also planning to put up their own detour information separately.  I decided to follow-up the next day and, according to the spokeswomen, CalTrans noted no complaints for the subsequent night&#039;s closure.  Hmm.  Government working?

And here is the kicker...

Ben was also right in noting no apparent actual construction activity on the closed section of the freeway.  But I did notice, at one point, a construction vehicle driving haphazardly and even dangerously on the median toward the closure (many cars had pulled over to wait it out so this truck almost clipped a few).  Seemed like the driver had somehow screwed up seriously in getting stuck in the traffic as if it wasn&#039;t anticipated.  Additionally none of the construction vehicles on site were marked with any sort of state or county symbols.  

In other words, it appears an incompetent private contractor was at fault, stranding even their own workers within the mess.  I find it quite possible that the contractor failed to warn CalTrans at all about their planned closure and then ineffectively placed two non-informative (only time/date not where) warning signs at points long after any detour was possible (there was only one possible detour at the most northern part of the county and the better detours for truckers would have been far into a completely different county).  And really what does the private contractor care anyway if thousands of individuals and other businesses are hurt by the unexpected closure?  They likely get their payments regardless.

So really this story argues the EXACT OPPOSITE of Mr. Shapiro&#039;s position.  That&#039;s not surprising at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too late for anyone to likely read this but perhaps a good coda to this comment section.  My wife and family were also stuck in the same jam on the same night as Ben (wonder if we drove alongside of him at any point).  He is right about the insanity of the signage: it all appeared too late and with too little information (e.g., where) to avoid the jam.</p>
<p>But here is where the liberal and conservative mind differ.  Operating under very little sleep the night before I was still able to realize that this was an unusual situation.  My experience has been that CalTrans is generally quite good about road closure warnings, often deploying signs 100+ miles in advance, especially in the case of a full closure.  Moreover, I noticed that there were a large number of truckers caught in the jam.  I found this very suspicious as they almost always operate from up-to-date traffic info.</p>
<p>So, instead of simply bitching into the air, I sent an e-mail to CalTrans asking what was up.  To be honest, I didn&#8217;t expect much (anti-govt conservative propaganda has seeped somewhat into my brain).  And yet I received a personal, well-written response from a CalTrans spokeswoman within 30 minutes.  Turns out that it wasn&#8217;t CalTrans but an LA County project.  Due to what had happened with the jam on Sunday night (the signs that were up indicated that the closure was to be repeated the next night), CalTrans was now working with the county project and was also planning to put up their own detour information separately.  I decided to follow-up the next day and, according to the spokeswomen, CalTrans noted no complaints for the subsequent night&#8217;s closure.  Hmm.  Government working?</p>
<p>And here is the kicker&#8230;</p>
<p>Ben was also right in noting no apparent actual construction activity on the closed section of the freeway.  But I did notice, at one point, a construction vehicle driving haphazardly and even dangerously on the median toward the closure (many cars had pulled over to wait it out so this truck almost clipped a few).  Seemed like the driver had somehow screwed up seriously in getting stuck in the traffic as if it wasn&#8217;t anticipated.  Additionally none of the construction vehicles on site were marked with any sort of state or county symbols.  </p>
<p>In other words, it appears an incompetent private contractor was at fault, stranding even their own workers within the mess.  I find it quite possible that the contractor failed to warn CalTrans at all about their planned closure and then ineffectively placed two non-informative (only time/date not where) warning signs at points long after any detour was possible (there was only one possible detour at the most northern part of the county and the better detours for truckers would have been far into a completely different county).  And really what does the private contractor care anyway if thousands of individuals and other businesses are hurt by the unexpected closure?  They likely get their payments regardless.</p>
<p>So really this story argues the EXACT OPPOSITE of Mr. Shapiro&#8217;s position.  That&#8217;s not surprising at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Geological Technician Fisher</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/11064.html#comment-666722</link>
		<dc:creator>Geological Technician Fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody call Joe Rogan. Ben Shapiro is clearly ripping off Adam Carolla&#039;s old Caltrans bits from the old Loveline show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody call Joe Rogan. Ben Shapiro is clearly ripping off Adam Carolla&#8217;s old Caltrans bits from the old Loveline show.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Melissa Debbie ShitMoathier</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/11064.html#comment-666719</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Melissa Debbie ShitMoathier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, asparagus would have *helped* his manhood. (It&#039;s phallic shaped, after all.) 

That poor wanker needs all the asparagus he can get. Too bad it&#039;s out of season at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, asparagus would have *helped* his manhood. (It&#8217;s phallic shaped, after all.) </p>
<p>That poor wanker needs all the asparagus he can get. Too bad it&#8217;s out of season at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: pch1013</title>
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		<dc:creator>pch1013</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And another thing: Ben could have gotten through that traffic jam in no time a-tall, if only he weren&#039;t too much of a fucking wussy-boy to ride a goddamn motorcycle. In fact, I&#039;m surprised he didn&#039;t mention all the bikes that presumably lane-shared right past him while he was sitting there fuming in his cage with the non-functioning radio and mousy* wife.

Or would that have cast asparagus on his manhood or something?

*ok, somebody prove me wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another thing: Ben could have gotten through that traffic jam in no time a-tall, if only he weren&#8217;t too much of a fucking wussy-boy to ride a goddamn motorcycle. In fact, I&#8217;m surprised he didn&#8217;t mention all the bikes that presumably lane-shared right past him while he was sitting there fuming in his cage with the non-functioning radio and mousy* wife.</p>
<p>Or would that have cast asparagus on his manhood or something?</p>
<p>*ok, somebody prove me wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reality-Based Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reality-Based Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VBennie&#039;s article needs to be saved. 
Whenever a putz takes VBennie&#039;s words seriously &amp; quotes him, this article needs to be sent.
Wherever VBennie applies for a job, the HR dept needs a copy of this article.

VBennie&#039;s picture needs to be the definition of whiney-baby fucktard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VBennie&#8217;s article needs to be saved.<br />
Whenever a putz takes VBennie&#8217;s words seriously &amp; quotes him, this article needs to be sent.<br />
Wherever VBennie applies for a job, the HR dept needs a copy of this article.</p>
<p>VBennie&#8217;s picture needs to be the definition of whiney-baby fucktard.</p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
		<link>http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/11064.html#comment-666157</link>
		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the Seismic Retrofit as a Village People covers band, all dressed as construction workers.

Young Ben, there&#039;s a place you can go
Ben Shapiro, when you&#039;re short on your dough.
You can drive there, and I&#039;m sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It&#039;s fun to drive on the In-ter-state 5
It&#039;s fun to drive on the In-ter-state 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the Seismic Retrofit as a Village People covers band, all dressed as construction workers.</p>
<p>Young Ben, there&#8217;s a place you can go<br />
Ben Shapiro, when you&#8217;re short on your dough.<br />
You can drive there, and I&#8217;m sure you will find<br />
Many ways to have a good time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fun to drive on the In-ter-state 5<br />
It&#8217;s fun to drive on the In-ter-state 5.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommykey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommykey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, the big question now is, when it came time to consummate the marriage, did the new Mrs. Shapiro have her body covered with a sheet, with a hole cut in it to allow for Benji&#039;s entry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, the big question now is, when it came time to consummate the marriage, did the new Mrs. Shapiro have her body covered with a sheet, with a hole cut in it to allow for Benji&#8217;s entry?</p>
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		<title>By: Dragon-King Wangchuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dragon-King Wangchuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Seismic Retrofit is my pick for band-name of the thread.&lt;/i&gt;

I kinda liked &quot;the lucky girl is 20&quot; and “men pissing on sofas”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Seismic Retrofit is my pick for band-name of the thread.</i></p>
<p>I kinda liked &#8220;the lucky girl is 20&#8243; and “men pissing on sofas”.</p>
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		<title>By: Smut Clyde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smut Clyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;some significant seismic retrofit projects &lt;/i&gt;
Seismic Retrofit is my pick for band-name of the thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>some significant seismic retrofit projects </i><br />
Seismic Retrofit is my pick for band-name of the thread.</p>
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		<title>By: OriGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>OriGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also: the lucky girl is 20. Do with that what you will.&lt;/blockquote&gt; What do you bet that she&#039;s Ivanka from Ukraine and she&#039;s trying to get a green card?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also: the lucky girl is 20. Do with that what you will.</p></blockquote>
<p> What do you bet that she&#8217;s Ivanka from Ukraine and she&#8217;s trying to get a green card?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears y&#039;all have missed &lt;a href=&quot;http://townhall.com/columnists/BenShapiro/2008/07/16/i_got_married_last_week&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ben&#039;s column&lt;/a&gt; in which he announced the happy occasion, and then promptly used it to attack Obama.

Note that both the headline and the first sentence are exactly the same: &quot;I got married last week.&quot; As if he had a need to convince people (or perhaps himself) that this actually occurred.

Also: the lucky girl is 20. Do with that what you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears y&#8217;all have missed <a href="http://townhall.com/columnists/BenShapiro/2008/07/16/i_got_married_last_week" rel="nofollow">Ben&#8217;s column</a> in which he announced the happy occasion, and then promptly used it to attack Obama.</p>
<p>Note that both the headline and the first sentence are exactly the same: &#8220;I got married last week.&#8221; As if he had a need to convince people (or perhaps himself) that this actually occurred.</p>
<p>Also: the lucky girl is 20. Do with that what you will.</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu's petals</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuzu's petals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;#

somedude said,

August 25, 2008 at 5:11

“You have to keep a current address on file with the bar, even if you are inactive.”

True, but it’s not something you need to change immediately in most states (not sure about California) if there’s a change in employment status. Generally, you get some degree of a grace period before you change your address. He may still be at Goodwin Procter, but the fact that the Bar website still lists him as such isn’t necessarily proof of that one way or another.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right, and I should have said more in my original.  As long as they&#039;re willing to hold his mail, he can use that address &#039;till he has another.  Likely he&#039;d have to figure something out by the time he renews in the new year.</description>
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<p>somedude said,</p>
<p>August 25, 2008 at 5:11</p>
<p>“You have to keep a current address on file with the bar, even if you are inactive.”</p>
<p>True, but it’s not something you need to change immediately in most states (not sure about California) if there’s a change in employment status. Generally, you get some degree of a grace period before you change your address. He may still be at Goodwin Procter, but the fact that the Bar website still lists him as such isn’t necessarily proof of that one way or another.</p></blockquote>
<p>Right, and I should have said more in my original.  As long as they&#8217;re willing to hold his mail, he can use that address &#8217;till he has another.  Likely he&#8217;d have to figure something out by the time he renews in the new year.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctorb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctorb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked him in Rushmore.</description>
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		<title>By: ckc (not kc)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ckc (not kc)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...he wasn&#039;t at the bar when I was there, a few minutes ago (mind you, I wasn&#039;t checking &lt;i&gt;all &lt;/i&gt;the eyebrows).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;he wasn&#8217;t at the bar when I was there, a few minutes ago (mind you, I wasn&#8217;t checking <i>all </i>the eyebrows).</p>
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		<title>By: somedude</title>
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		<dc:creator>somedude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 03:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You have to keep a current address on file with the bar, even if you are inactive.&quot;

True, but it&#039;s not something you need to change immediately in most states (not sure about California) if there&#039;s a change in employment status.  Generally, you get some degree of a grace period before you change your address.  He may still be at Goodwin Procter, but the fact that the Bar website still lists him as such isn&#039;t necessarily proof of that one way or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You have to keep a current address on file with the bar, even if you are inactive.&#8221;</p>
<p>True, but it&#8217;s not something you need to change immediately in most states (not sure about California) if there&#8217;s a change in employment status.  Generally, you get some degree of a grace period before you change your address.  He may still be at Goodwin Procter, but the fact that the Bar website still lists him as such isn&#8217;t necessarily proof of that one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctorb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctorb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, if you got on I-5 in Sacramento and drove 80 mph the whole way, you&#039;d be in LA in less than five hours.  Just sayin&#039;.  They must have STOPPED at some point, or he was LYING about his SPEED.  Someone check the KERNING on his LICENSE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if you got on I-5 in Sacramento and drove 80 mph the whole way, you&#8217;d be in LA in less than five hours.  Just sayin&#8217;.  They must have STOPPED at some point, or he was LYING about his SPEED.  Someone check the KERNING on his LICENSE!</p>
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		<title>By: 4jkb4ia</title>
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		<dc:creator>4jkb4ia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great smackdown.</description>
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		<title>By: jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
The first generation Chevy Nova was a very nice car.

That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU TAKE THAT BACK!<br />
The first generation Chevy Nova was a very nice car.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: watchdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>watchdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Down in Los Angeles we normally reffer to the various freeways by their numbers; &quot;You got to take the 110 for three miles and get off here..&quot; and such, me personaly I always called them by their destination names; the Harbor freeway, the Santa Monica freeway etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Down in Los Angeles we normally reffer to the various freeways by their numbers; &#8220;You got to take the 110 for three miles and get off here..&#8221; and such, me personaly I always called them by their destination names; the Harbor freeway, the Santa Monica freeway etc</p>
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