Apr
22

Busted




Posted at 21:20 by Brad

The jig is up: we now have definitive proof that our friend AnnieAngel is an ingenious and brilliant satire. Here are some highlights from her latest tract on how to raise good Christian boys. Just read it and try telling yourself it isn’t a parody (thanks to Tim for the tip):

As we can never catch all the bad, nasty things a young boy will do, it’s best to beat him pre-emptively on a daily basis. [...]

YES YOU CAN CHOOSE HIS FRIENDS! And not only can you, you SHOULD! Nothing will influence a teenage boy more than the company he keeps. Any boy with long hair, ripped jeans or a leather jacket is an obvious bad choice for your son to have as a friend. But be aware that some “clean cut” children are not Christian and have not been raised in a Christian home. Who knows what kind of depraved morals lurk beneath their boy-next-door exterior. [...]

Video games should be kept to a minimum and should never contain any kind of violence unless it is a game put out by the U.S. Armed Forces. [...]

Too many young men these days ruin their lives by impregnating the town slut. [...]

Rap is a definite no-no. Children are impressionable and the rap industry is geared toward turning your sons into women-hating, mysoginist ho-masters. If you hear your son using terms like, “word to your mother”, or “chill”, it’s a good indication he has been listening to rap music. [...]

Cellphones should be limited to the walkie-talkie type with preset numbers programmed by you, otherwise he may begin dealing drugs.

Annie, you are the bestest in the world. Don’t ever change.

Bonus- Here’s a real goodie from the comments:

Fear is all that is needed to raise a good child. Will is what strives a child to become their own entity and should they become their own then they would simply fail. Breaking a child’s will, instilling an unwavering sense of fear would be all that one needs to create a good child.

Note how I say create, not raise.

Although some parents use alcoholism as a catalist to beat their children into submission and others use verbal assaults to work on them mentally instead, I think that using god is the most humane of them all. What better way to destroy any sense of self-worth then to assure a child god will punish them for being anything but a sheep.

296 Comments »

  1. fiver said,

    April 22, 2006 at 21:47

    I’m still not convinced. She seems awfully dedicated for a parody.

  2. Brad R., a.k.a. THE SLEDGEHAMMER OF JUSTICE!!!! said,

    April 22, 2006 at 21:49

    I’m still not convinced. She seems awfully dedicated for a parody.

    Yeah, but:

    If you hear your son using terms like, “word to your mother”, or “chill”, it’s a good indication he has been listening to rap music.

    How can that NOT be parody? The woman is simply a genius. She’s like the Eminem of right-wing blogs. You can never tell if she’s for real or if she’s putting you on (or somewhere in between). As a piece of performance art, it can’t be beat.

  3. GoatBoy said,

    April 22, 2006 at 21:52

    What may play well on her blog suffers miserably in a haloscan window.

    Stars and geniuses don’t take their act door-to-door is what I’m sayin.

  4. Pinko Punko said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:00

    It is like she is unveiling her parody this week for all to see.

  5. Carpbasman said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:03

    She ain’t for real. No how. No way.

  6. Jillian said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:29

    Eh, it’s a pretty stale schtick, if you ask me.

    If I wanted some good internet crazy, I’d get me some Gene Ray.

    After all, who can top this?

    YOU are a Cubic Creature,
    Opposites create Opposites.
    Educated Singularity stupid,
    empowering evil way of life.
    Religious / academic taught
    Singularity is Evil & Murder.
    Academia has enslaved you
    as a Word Animal – kneel,
    you educated stupid jackass.
    I can lead you to 4 Wisdom,
    but I can’t free your brain
    from the evil of singularity.

  7. Mal de mer said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:32

    Brilliant parody or ideological fundamentalist? Brilliant parody? Ideological fundamentalist? Brilliant parody? Ideological fundamentalist?Brilliant parody? Ideological fundamentalist?…

    How about “nuts?” Does “nuts” work?

  8. Wha? said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:34

    It’s The General!! It’s got to be. That first passage quoted is pure J.C. Christian goodness.

  9. Wha? said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:35

    Gene Ray reads like a demented Dr. Bronner.

  10. Who Said That? said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:36

    Annie, we hardly knew ye. But even that was too long.

  11. His Grace said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:39

    Brad, I’d like to agree, I really would. If she’s a parody she’s reaaaaal good because she balances enough crazed logic in with her outrageous statements to sound like a good wingnutt talking head.

    I mean, frozen orange juice is for whores is classic in of itself as well as the signs your kids listen to the rap music. Still, I just watched Kirk Cameron stand in awe as his evangalist friend proved the existance of an intelligent designer through use of a banana. Personally I’d like to believe that Kirk Cameron is a parody but my stomach believes that’s only true because he doesn’t know it.

  12. Brad R., a.k.a. THE SLEDGEHAMMER OF JUSTICE!!!! said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:46

    Still, I just watched Kirk Cameron stand in awe as his evangalist friend proved the existance of an intelligent designer through use of a banana. Personally I’d like to believe that Kirk Cameron is a parody but my stomach believes that’s only true because he doesn’t know it.

    She drops too many hints of lefty humor into her work that she can’t be anything but a parody. The crack about banning violent video games unless they’re produced by the Army is simply too blatant to be real.

    Like I’ve said, though, it’s really good performance art. And time-consuming too. I don’t know why anyone would spend so much time doing it, but hey, to each her (or is it his?) own.

  13. jeff said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:51

    I think annie is definitely a fake. Not so sure about Gary Ruppert.

  14. Brad R., a.k.a. THE SLEDGEHAMMER OF JUSTICE!!!! said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:53

    Annie is a fake, Gary is sadly real. Now, I’ve got another one that I’m not sure about. Has anyone ever heard of Modern Crusader?

  15. Jillian said,

    April 22, 2006 at 22:58

    These guys are also real.

    They’re good to keep in mind when you are looking for a baseline of the craziest thing a person could ever possibly believe.

  16. mikey said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:00

    Face it. She is beyond brilliant. She is both a near-perfect parody and so Whacked-Out Obsessive that she won’t even break character for the brief instant it would take for her to give ya a “tee-hee, wink”. I mean, look at this:

    Cellphones should be limited to the walkie-talkie type with preset numbers programmed by you, otherwise he may begin dealing drugs.

    Look, no serious parent would correlate cell phones with the causality of drug dealing. Not any other precusor necessary, just cell phones. And pagers are worse!!

    Nope, Brad’s dead right. This is blog/performance art raised to its highest possible level, as only a truly mentally unbalanced performer could accomplish.

  17. Wha? said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:05

    “This is blog/performance art raised to its highest possible level, as only a truly mentally unbalanced performer could accomplish.”
    -Mikey

    Blog Performance Art – check
    Mentally Unbalanced – check

    LIke I said, it’s the General.

  18. His Grace said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:06

    I lean towards the fact that she must be a fake since she says so many crazy things that are WAAAAY too easy to make fun of/point out the absurdity of it. But as I said if she is a fake, she’s real good at it. She seems to know how to “debate” her points quite well, through shifting rationales and ignoring implications of her sweeping statements. And I’ve met my share of wingnutts who say CRAZY things that you’d swear would be a parody…

    I’ll admit the army comment does perk my fake alert up, and I’m not saying there’s no way she ain’t or even if she is unlikely to be. All I know is that if you expect everybody to be calm and rational about everything they believe, you are going to be disapointed.

  19. mikey said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:08

    Nope. Modern Crusader is just another cheetoh stained, puffy, bald american bigot hater. The fact that theres only like 6 posts all year proves it for me. There’s no buzzwords that would indicate parody. Just those that indicate racial/religious fear and hatred. Just another worm.

    And fixedearth is just a crazy bastard seriously in need of meds, starting with lithium and thorazine, and moving on to prozac and viagra. Mix them up the right cocktail and he actually COULD function in society..

    mikey

  20. Gary Ruppert said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:35

    It wouldn’t stun me if she was a leftist posing as a right-winger, trying to undermine a lot of perfectly legitimate ideas.

  21. Brad R., a.k.a. THE SLEDGEHAMMER OF JUSTICE!!!! said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:38

    It wouldn’t stun me if she was a leftist posing as a right-winger, trying to undermine a lot of perfectly legitimate ideas.

    Gary, I got my suspicions about you too. It’s funny how you and Annie started posted here at the same time, no?

  22. Tom said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:39

    There really can be no doubt that it’s parodic. Why else would the “blogging points” have a great Bushism (“our people must come together to unite”) at the top?

    Her answers to her detractors who don’t get the joke (“Women DO get paid for working in the home….they get paid with love and a strong family unit”) are also incredible.

  23. Capt. Trollypants said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:43

    She’s real, but she’s slipped lately. She calld Puko Punk “cute”. I hate her. I hate PINKO PUNKO!@!!

  24. tigrismus said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:48

    Well, Mr Brad, you’ve got access to IP addresses, don’t you? No need to give anything away to us, your humble readers if you don’t want to(selfish git), but it seems you could easily assuage your own curiosity.

  25. patriotboy said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:49

    Annie and her friend Shoelimpy convinced me to change by policy for banning people–I’m much quicker doing it now.

    It took quite awhile to convince me. You’re going through that now.

  26. Jillian said,

    April 22, 2006 at 23:59

    If people could just be persuaded to IGNORE THE TROLLS, then banning wouldn’t be necessary. But they can’t, or they won’t, but either way they don’t, and so we end up with long, mostly annoying threads arguing over points that nobody in their right mind actually think are debatable, whereas threads that might actually lead to interesting conversation go languishing because everybody’s busy arguing against statemtents like “The Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon”.

    But this will work itself out in the end, so I’m not overly worried about it. And besides, there’s always Gary Ruppert to beat up on if I really need to vent my frustrations on someone. ;-)

  27. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:02

    The Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon

    Ah, the classics. They never go out of style.

    …Now, when I left things, yesterday, I was in mid-exorcism of annie…shall I continue?

  28. His Grace said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:11

    I was trained to be sceptical about everything, even scepticism. The more I read of what she writes, the more I go “There’s no way in hell someone could actually believe this shit.”

    But then I remember the time I watched one group of communists argue that another group of communists weren’t really communists and so I shouldn’t vote for them. The feeling was surreal, since I wanted to say “I don’t care whether you that they are Maoists not true Marxist-Leninists I ain’t gonna vote for either of you.”

    Unfortunately the argument was too loud for me to get a word in edgewise.

    But I’ll agree with one thing that has been said, no matter what she is, she’s nuts.

  29. Timmah420 said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:15

    A few swats on the backside each morning with a hairbrush will keep him in line. This is not discipline as you are not punishing the child for a specific offense so it is fine for a woman to do on her own.

    That\’s the exact sentence that clinched it for me before I emailed to you guys. Every time I responded to her, a nagging voice in the back of my head kept telling me she was a fake, but doesen\’t that just demonstrate how unbelievable these people have become?

    If you ask me, it\’s not too far a leap from \”Nuke Iran\” to \”Beat Billy with a belt while squeezing OJ, you whores\”

  30. Anonymous said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:16

    “10. Punishment. Punishment should always be carried out by the father. In cases of single mothers who have no willing ex to help out, until you are re-married to a real Christian, have an uncle or other male relative or close friend step in. Never try to discipline a boy yourself, the humiliation is something he should never have to deal with as a man.”

    Pure 2nd rate parody.

  31. jeff said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:21

    It wouldn’t stun me if she was a leftist posing as a right-winger, trying to undermine a lot of perfectly legitimate ideas.

    It wouldn’t stun me if you were a pale, unemployed schmuck who is in his 30s and lives in his parents’ basement.

  32. J Johnson said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:21

    Annie does seem to be heavily into Sadly, No. Whoever her screen name represents is doing an awful lot of work.

  33. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:28

    “A few swats on the backside each morning with a hairbrush will keep him in line. This is not discipline as you are not punishing the child for a specific offense so it is fine for a woman to do on her own.”

    That\’s the exact sentence that clinched it for me…
    -Timmah420

    It’s The General, dammit!

    Patriotboy! It’s you and I know it! ‘Fess up, already!

  34. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:29

    Pure 2nd rate parody.

    Alas, this is what we come down to. Whether she’s nuts or a parody is largely immaterial. The mediocrity of it all is we are faced with.

    …Uh oh. She’s not going to like that. I bet she calls me a virgin-cannibalising satyr.

  35. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:32

    Mal –

    Are you calling The General mediocre?

    Patriotboy! I saw you there! Mal de Mer just called you Mediocre! Are you going to take that?

    Nuthin’ better than stirrin’ up trouble on the internets…except drunkenly stirrin’ up trouble on the internets…

  36. patriotboy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:41

    It’s not me. Annie and shoelimpy are all about pressing buttons. They live to stir up the comments section of liberal blogs.

    Annie can be funny, but that’s just an unintentional consequence of what she does.

  37. Tom said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:45

    This comes down largely to personal opinion, but I don’t think she’s mediocre at all. I’ve noticed a tendency for some people to denigrate humor when they didn’t get it initially. Like with Landover Baptist: people say “This is outrageous!!!” at first, and then when you say, “but it’s a joke” they say, “..oh. Well, that’s not funny!”

    Personally, I find Annie’s stuff pretty great.

  38. His Grace said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:49

    Wha? I don’t think Ms Annie is the one and only Jesus’ General. For one thing, the General has a better sense of humour.

    For another, there’s actually a point to the General doing what he does. With Annie there doesn’t seem to be any other than to, er, shoot her mouth off. I don’t see what she’s accomplishing with what she says. If she is a parody, she takes herself far too seriously and stays in wingnutt character far too much to actually make a decent point.

  39. D. Sidhe said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:50

    Brad, you’re the kind of guy who argues about whether pro wrestling is fake, too, aren’t you.

    annie’s pure entertainment troll.

    Gary, on the other hand, is clearly some clever leftist masquerading as a dimwitted righty to draw attention to the idiocy of specific conservative arguments.
    Why else is his name an anagram for “Tug Per Parry”?

    Could it be any more obvious? He’s typing one handed!

  40. Brad R. said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:50

    It’s not me. Annie and shoelimpy are all about pressing buttons. They live to stir up the comments section of liberal blogs.

    Annie can be funny, but that’s just an unintentional consequence of what she does.

    General Sir- I think Annie/Shoelimpy are actually the same person. It’s all a Kaufmannesque metaperformance art designed to get laughs by making others angry or uncomfortable. I personally find it kinda amusing, and I don’t think people should get all that worked up about it.

  41. patriotboy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:51

    I shouldn’t be stirring this all up again, but what the hell.

    Here’s an excerpt from a note I sent to the dozens of commenters who had complained about Annie and Shoelimpy. I sent it last December.

    It’s mostly guestwork, and I may be very wrong about somethings, but I think I’m close.

    They both hung out on the Weekly World News forums, where they trolled the people who couldn’t figure out that WWN is satire. There were others like them there. The more conservative ones formed a tight little community, much like the one you’ve formed in my, or actually “our,” comments. Sometime in the Fall, WWN discontinued its forum and the community was lost.

    Shoelimpy, annieangel, and others like “Trouble” created blogs in an effort to keep the community alive. Unfortunately, a key element was missing because they had no one to troll. So they turned to other boards belonging to Christian and Anarchists, but it just wasn’t the same. Still they kept trying, trolling progressive sites and eventually landing on ours.

    There’s a lot of supposition above, but now the supposing gets heavy.

    I think that shoe and annie met each other via WNN and began a relationship. Shoe, a recent Texas A&M grad who has been virtually jobless since graduation, moved to Canada to be with/live off of annie. He makes a few bucks here and there tutoring, but that’s probably subsidized by whatever Annie does.

    He fancies himself to be an intellectual, as does Annie, and a writer. If you scroll down on his blog, you’ll see him bragging that two of his articles were recently published. If you follow the links, you’ll see that they were published on an open source content site where anyone can post articles. Now, that’s pathetic.

    Annie’s harder to figure out. The Christian thing seems real, but it’s hard to square that with the photos she likes to post. I wonder if she’s a drunk and if, when she sobers up, she feels a need to redeem herself by seeing that man in Toronto who spanks people for money.

    I think that’s about all the effort I’ll put into figuring them out, but it is interesting to read their blogs. I can’t believe how angry they are about being banned and trolled. Classic narcissists.

  42. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:52

    Ah, but you could look at our sweet Marie and say that is a brilliant piece of performance art too…but I’m pretty sure it’s not.

    Nope, I think from what I saw at the General’s, annie a’s not a parody, just batshit insane. I think winger women are WAY crazier than the menfolk.

  43. Brad R. said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:56

    The Christian thing seems real, but it’s hard to square that with the photos she likes to post.

    No way. The whole thing is an elaborate game. It’s like reading Calvino’s IF ON A WINTER’S NIGHT A TRAVELLER or Fowles’ THE MAGUS- you’re constantly questioning what is and is not real, and in the end it doesn’t matter a shit.

  44. Pinko Punko said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:57

    I think Annie’s middle name must be Kaufman. I will not claim it is mediocre. I think she is exceptionally good at what she does. She is a sh*t disturber of the highest order. That’s what we do, we just do it in our own clubhouse, whereas she goes right into the beehive with the stick, and her purpose is to just mess around.

  45. patriotboy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:59

    Well said Pinko.

  46. patriotboy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 0:59

    You too Brad R.

  47. Pinko Punko said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:01

    Oh Bradster- nice on the Calvino and grudgingly the Magus. Professor Booty made me read that, and then I was all “what is this?” and he was “I don’t know, I just thought the sex was hot”

    WTF, Booty??????

    anniea is 100% a book whose chapters are from different books. like exactly as infinitely meta as the Calvino novel.

  48. patriotboy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:02

    and celticgirl too.

  49. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:07

    Oh, look what crawled out of the shitpile full of lies and libel! It’s JG, the biggest idiot I’ve ever met. I think it’s SUPA that you’re actually on this thread! I mean I think it’s just SUPA!

    Did I ever tell you thanks for sending your moronic posse of fake Christians to troll my blog? You are pathetic. And everything you say is a lie.

    I was willing earlier to chat on voice with Timmah to prove Shoe and I are two people, just to SHUT YOU ASSHOLES UP, but now Timmah can go fuck himself!

    This is truly unreal. It’s surreal.

    You are making me some kind of legend for some reason I can’t fathom.

    I won’t fight it, but you’re all wrong. It’ HILARIOUS! But pathetic.

    Now, make MORE POSTS about me.

    DO IT!!

    If you don’t, I’ll NEVER leave.

    Until Gavin bans me….come on Gavin….got the balls big guy????

  50. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:08

    Patriotboy-

    Not you, eh? Funny by accident, eh? Likes to stir up hulabaloo in the comments section (hence gaining more readers and commenters), eh?

    Then it’s BRAD!!

  51. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:10

    BTW: The ‘annieangel’ posting above is a name-theif. Not the real annieangel at all. Pay it no mind.

    It’s real name is Toby. AKA Frances.

    Lighten up, Frances!

  52. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:11

    LOL!!

    It’s me.

  53. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:15

    Yes, Toby. It’s you. Lighten up, Frances!

  54. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:17

    Who’s Toby?

  55. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:21

    If annie really did write that screed on raising Christian boys, she’s been stealing material from Pastor Doug Giles.

  56. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:21

    The sad thing about the internets, my little peekapoo, is that you are one of the countless who go in with the delusion that it affords you to be who you want to be, rather than who you are

    Sadly, the truth is, on the internets, just as in the real world, others will judge you by what you say and do, and in the end, you are who THEY think you are.

    You are Toby, AKA Frances.
    Now lighten up, Frances!

  57. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:23

    Who’s Toby?
    -Toby

    That’s what you always say.

  58. patriotboy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:25

    “Libel,” Annie? That’s a strong word, a libelous word.

  59. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:26

    What’s wrong with you?

    So, patriotboy ran away.

    Typical of a troll, stir up shit, smear and lie and then run away.

    I mean, talk about second rate parody. :)

  60. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:27

    When you are spreading lies about someone with malicious intent….it is a strong act.

    You’re a piece of shit.

  61. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:27

    What’s wrong with whom?

  62. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:28

    With you, Toby.

  63. patriotboy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:30

    Which of my guesses (all of which were clearly labled as guesses) were wrong? Tell me, so that I can get it right the next time.

  64. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:31

    Passing the Toby around, now are we? Very well; I, too, am Toby. Happy?

    I am he as you are he as you are we and we are all togeth-her-er. She how they fly like pigs in the sky…

  65. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:31

    My PERSONAL INFORMATION and my boyfriends PERSONAL INFORMATION are none of your fucking business.

  66. STH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:31

    You know, I’m mildly curious about the identity or identities of these people, but it doesn’t really matter. The bottom line is that they are hijacking our discussions. Everywhere I look–books, TV, newspapers, not to mention real life–it’s a wingnut-o-rama, and I like having like-minded people around in at least one place in my life. I am just so tired of people without a clue telling me who they think I am that I don’t really need more of it. I don’t see much humor in aa’s bizarre rants, but I’m aware that I may be in the minority there.

  67. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:32

    I have as much right to my privacy as anyone.

    Maybe you could WIRETAP me?

    Asshole! HYPOCRITICAL asshole.

  68. His Grace said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:32

    If annie really did write that screed on raising Christian boys, she’s been stealing material from Pastor Doug Giles.

    She certainly knows her crazy wingnutt talking points. If she is a parody, I’m almost afraid she doesn’t know where the parody ends and the real annie begins.

    If she’s not she’s still screwed up six ways ’til sunday.

    What ever she is, she invests far too much time in her, well, art covers both the parody and the wingnuttery IMHO and spreading it ’round the interwebs.

  69. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:33

    The hell?..annie’s from Canada as well?

    Jesus Christ…Adam Yoshida, Mark Steyn, David Frum…not to mention Pastor Swank, Charles Krauthammer…all the way to Pamela Anderson and Céline Dion…Did you all know that Ayn Rand’s boy-toy, Nathaniel Branden, was from Canada as well?

    *urdle*…woops. Threw up a little there in my mouth.

    This awful. I’m apologising…on behalf of all Canadians. Although since I’m Québécois, I’m really only guilty by association.

    Oh, well. Chalk that up to the destruction of the nanny state that began in the early 90′s. If Frum’s welfare cheque hadn’t been slashed, he’d still be on the couch in his apartment in Mimico, watching marathons of Joan of Arcadia instead engaging in all that prostitution at that bordello for neo-cons, the NRO.

  70. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:34

    All your guesses were wrong, Herr General….

    I AM ANNIEANGEL!! BWHA?-HA!! BWHA?-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!!!!!!!

  71. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:35

    Hijacking? TWO posts about me on the front page. I don’t hijack ANYTHING.

    You’re whacked.

    I’m just like all of YOU. A person who likes to surf the net.

    I LIKE THIS SITE. I think it’s funny. I’m not a disruptive person, you’ve made me a freaking TOPIC.

    If the posters can’t deal with that, go to Patriotboy!!

    His site breaks with the traffic I create so FUCK OFF THERE!!!

  72. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:36

    I LIVE in Canada. I’ve never hidden that fact. But I’m not Canadian, dumbass.

  73. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:36

    Wow…this is just like a train wreck. Horrific, yet one can’t look away.

  74. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:37

    Pagangirl is so excited right now, she’s got two bags of fritos and a bottle of diet coke and she’s pounding it all back as she giggles. ;)

  75. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:37

    My PERSONAL INFORMATION and my boyfriends PERSONAL INFORMATION are none of your fucking business.
    -Toby

    Ha! I’m glad to see you took my advice and came out of the closet, Tobester. I would have thought it would have mellowed you out a little more, though.

    Now stop stealing my handle. I, and I ALONE, am annieangel!

  76. patriotboy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:37

    My PERSONAL INFORMATION and my boyfriends PERSONAL INFORMATION are none of your fucking business.

    I’d agree with that. I’d also say that it is human nature to try to learn more about a person who seems to be intentionally trying to disrupt your comment sections.

  77. Anonymous said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:39

    Wow…this is just like a train wreck. Horrific, yet one can’t look away.
    -celticgirl

    Yes! Chaos – sweet chaos! Now if Marie Jon’ had just been invited to the party…Brad, don’t you still have her number? It’s saturday night, you know she’s not doing anything.

  78. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:40

    After you banned me I never returned to your site. I wasn’t disruptive, your commentators were flaming shitbags.

    This is NOT your site. I am seemingly liked here.

    So you are here ONLY to try to smear me. Fuck off.

  79. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:41

    Of course, if I really AM patriotboy….this would make me a freaking genius…you sheep!!!

    FIRE!!!

  80. celticigirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:42

    shorter annie: me, me me, I, I I, REPENT! Hire Shoelimpy, He’s the best, Whore of Babylon, orange juice concentrate, FUCK YOU! Christ Pisser, How dare you be interested in me, when I wiggle my ass in front of you, stop trolling me! ME! ME! ME!

    Did I forget anything?

    annie honey, I’m just waitin’ for the wheels to fall off. Almost there now…

  81. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:42

    Watch your language, Toby! I don’t want people thinking that my alter-ego is a girl with a potty-mouth. There’s nothing uglier…it makes people think that Wha?-annie is a woman of lose morals.

  82. GoatBoy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:43

    I’d also say that it is human nature to try to learn more about a person who seems to be intentionally trying to disrupt your comment sections.

    Hear hear! And now we can tell all our friends that we’ve got our own Butler. Fat city, baby!

  83. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:43

    Call me patriotboy, pagangirl. I love you, you know. In a purely heterosexual way, nudge nudge. ;)

  84. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:44

    But I’m not Canadian, dumbass.

    Yes, you are. You’re Canadian…CUH-NAY-DEE-AN!

    …hahahahaha!

    You know, that is cruel taunt.

  85. His Grace said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:44

    The hell?..annie’s from Canada as well?

    Mal de Mer, it ain’t like Canada doesn’t have it’s share of crazies. The thing is in Canada, the real wingnutters like Steyn, Yoshida and Frum usually get laughed at if they aren’t in carefully controlled Christian call in shows, so they head south where they actually are listened to for some reason.

    You want real live home grown Canadian crazy? Go to http://www.chp.ca Ron Gray never misses a chance to blame all of society’s problems on the fact that being gay isn’t recognized any more as a mental illness.

  86. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:44

    You couldn’t be patriotboy. You’re already Toby. Everybody knows that Patriotboy is The General, not Toby. How could you be Patriotboy AND Toby at the same time?

    What are you, nuts?

    You need to lighten up, Frances.

  87. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:45

    I can’t hide from you all.

    You’ve got me.

    I’m patriotboy. And celticgirl.

    And of course, I’m Timmah420. I’ve outed myself.

    Signed, Brad.

  88. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:45

    Wha?: too many voices in her head…

  89. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:46

    Ummm….you forgot Toby.

  90. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:47

    Shut up, Frances.

  91. GoatBoy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:47

    Disapperaing post on the front page.

    Were you guys contactd by the New York Law Firm?

    Man, they work fast!

  92. patriotboy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:47

    If Annie is liked here, then I apologize. I was under the impression that she was causing problems, so I thought I’d tell you about my experience with her.

    Sadly No! is a fantastic blog. I don’t want to disrupt their comments with this, so I’ll ignore her.

  93. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:48

    celticgirl –

    I concurr in your diagnosis.

  94. STH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:48

    Thanks, celticgirl! Excellent summary.

  95. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:48

    “This is NOT your site. I am seemingly liked here.”

    Seemingly being the operative word.

  96. cranky said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:49

    Disapperaing post on the front page.

    Thank you. I thought I was hallucinating.

  97. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:51

    celticgirl-

    Now that Toby has his comfy white-jacket-with-straps on, lets pop all his meds and make mad love in a drug-induced Tantric hyper-trance right in front of him!

    God I’ve missed you. Or your screename, anyway. It’s sexy just typing it.

  98. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:51

    Yeah, your work is done here, right JG? You’ve trolled and done your duty to God? Correct?

    You’re no different than Fred Phelps.

    I hope you choke.

  99. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:52

    Wait! Nevermind. Sorry, I’ve heard MJ has been prowling around recently. Can’t upset the misses.

    Somebody said something about the New York Law Firm, too. Don’t want their divorce-attnys after me.

  100. Iesu Criste said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:55

    I hope you choke.

    You’re so cranky, my child.

  101. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:55

    Wha?: Interesting suggestion. I’ll have to give that careful consideration.

  102. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:55

    Toby – Who is Fred Phelps? This is getting really complicated, you know.

  103. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:56

    Nope. But I’m sure everyone will be accused of being me sooner or later.

    That is, unless Gavin bans me. :)

  104. MzNicky said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:57

    You Sady, No! people are giving this narcissistic sociopath exactly what she wants. She’s dominating your threads and got you wondering ALL ABOUT HER. If you have any doubts, I’d invite you to visit the General’s archives, from around 12/25/05 through 1/01/06. Her comments here, expressing her true nature of hissing hostility toward patriotboy because he’s got her number, should convince you if nothing else.

    She’s been banned from more websites than you could count because of her and her “boyfriend” ‘s disruptive antics. You’re just her latest conquest.

  105. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:57

    Ok, time for bannings. Your loyal fans are getting a little glassy-eyed over this dog-and-pony show.

    But, let the bannings be done in a ritualistically humiliating way. You’d get two, maybe three good posts out of that, I’m sure.

  106. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:57

    celticgirl –

    In that case, I’m not married to MJ after all. It was all a hoax that Yousef cooked up to cover for his antics as annieangel.

    So, what’s your sign, baby?

  107. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:58

    Fred Phelps is a disgusting human being who pisses on the name of God with every breath he takes.

  108. Big Worm said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:58

    this is so weird

  109. Some Guy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:59

    My Daughter… My Sister… My Daughter…

  110. His Grace said,

    April 23, 2006 at 1:59

    Maybe one of us really is Miss Annie Angel, only we don’t know it… Until the horror of horrors we notice that our fridge is stocked with fresh squeezed… and the credits roll.

  111. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:00

    Well, I realy don’t see how I should be banned for commenting in a thread about me.

    If anyone should be banned it should be Brad for starting the whole thing.

  112. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:00

    It is weird, isn’t it?

  113. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:02

    His Grace –
    Brilliant! The annieangel lives in all of us. We must each individually endeavour to purge the little annieangel from ourselves.

  114. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:03

    What’s weird?

  115. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:04

    Of course it’s weird, Toby. That’s why they call them MAGIC mushrooms.

  116. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:04

    Wow! Now THIS is a thread. Some real “Inside Baseball” stuff going on here. It’s a little like being backstage for rehersals of a junior college production of “One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.

    I read Jesus’ General from time to time, but somehow have missed the adventures of annie and all her friends. I have to confess I have NO idea what’s going on here.

    I met some canadians once, they seemed perfectly harmless. But just to be safe I beat them to death with a pool cue. Nobody seemed to care.

    Tell ya what. Somebody do me (and others, I assure you) a favor. Write a brief backstory. You know, a little history of all the blog comment interactions of all these people, toby, frances,annie, shoeleather, complete with a chart of their relationships and blogs that have and have not banned them. Look, think of it as a homework assignment. Remember, kids, penmanship counts.

    mikey

  117. Pinko Punko said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:04

    First of all, I Pledge allegiance to Wha? But I want Toby to STFU, because Frances is where it’s at.

    Secondly, I’m sorry but this is total genius. I use the word genius to mean “unbelievably effective”

  118. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:05

    Wow! Now THIS is a thread. Some real “Inside Baseball” stuff going on here. It’s a little like being backstage for rehersals of a junior college production of “One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest”.

    I read Jesus’ General from time to time, but somehow have missed the adventures of annie and all her friends. I have to confess I have NO idea what’s going on here.

    I met some canadians once, they seemed perfectly harmless. But just to be safe I beat them to death with a pool cue. Nobody seemed to care.

    Tell ya what. Somebody do me (and others, I assure you) a favor. Write a brief backstory. You know, a little history of all the blog comment interactions of all these people, toby, frances,annie, shoeleather, complete with a chart of their relationships and blogs that have and have not banned them. Look, think of it as a homework assignment. Remember, kids, penmanship counts.

    mikey

  119. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:06

    LOL, Mikey. Sad thing is, they probably all have “annie files.”

    I own the bode. I am in all their domes for some reason.

    I guess…maybe I am a wonderful person! Everyone seems to not be able to get enough of me! I’m like WOW!

    Someone start a fan club!

  120. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:07

    Mikey –
    You’re so analytical! Annie, Toby, Frances (who seriously needs to lighten up)…all figments of everyone’s imagination (except Yousef, who can’t really imagine much).

    Create them in your image.

  121. cranky said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:07

    Oh yeah, I’m poppin’ the popcorn for this one.

  122. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:08

    I read that Patriotboy summary of these two.

    I’m quite certain it’s accurate in form, if not in every detail.

    It’s also just about one of the saddest, most pathetic things I’ve ever read. God, those are some sorry human beings.

    They deserve each other.

  123. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:08

    I didn’t double post. Moveable type needs a spanking. With a hairbrush…

    mikey

  124. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:09

    Whoops, that last cranky was me.

  125. His Grace said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:11

    We must each individually endeavour to purge the little annieangel from ourselves.

    Wha?: I’m for that. To start, I’m enjoying a nice glass of frozen OJ.

    Annie: Just a question, if you don’t mind: Do you hate pants?

  126. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:12

    Oh yeah and Jillian justs hates the attention I get. She wants it.

  127. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:12

    I met some canadians once, they seemed perfectly harmless.

    You’d think so, eh? Do you know how many Canadians slip and fall on the ice every winter? I’ll let you in a little secret…those aren’t accidents.

    …bwahahahah.*cough*

  128. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:12

    Toby likes to be beaten. We like to beat Toby. Why not let the baby have his bottle? Especially when it’s this psychadellic!

    Where did celticgirl go? I was really digging that outfit she had on…

  129. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:13

    Yes, I hate pants. I think pants are evil. I think all pants should be collected, piled and burned. There should be another Great Awakening, just for pants.

  130. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:15

    !!!Pinko!!!

    Wha? loves ya’ man (in a manly sort of way, of course)!

    Been trying to catch up on things – loved what you did at the long thread.

  131. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:16

    Annie. Just a quick observation from someone who truly has not a clue from this thread. Jillian is nice, funny and pleasant with folks. Someone I’d like to have a drink with.

    You on the other hand, all I’ve seen is you snarl, snap, curse and wish bad things on people. Much like a crazy person on the subway. Someone I’d MACE.

    Just Sayin…

    mikey

  132. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:18

    Toby –

    I don’t think they were pants, I thought it was one of those sheer-earthtone-floral hippy-print skirts and a concert half-tee. Or maybe that was the acid. Where’s the keg. I need a beer to mellow out. Am I sweating?

  133. GoatBoy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:22

    Ban or don’t, it’ll all come tot he same. Like a previously coveted Christmas toy the Butlers will soon gather dust in a dark back corner of the closet.

    Um, I guess the comment thread is the closet. Or something.

  134. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:23

    Jillian hates me. Why? No reason excpet the boys like me. She’s the Queen of the long thread. :)

    What a title to hold! I’m not trying to steal your thunder, Jilly, let’s be friends!

    I want to see your nice side!

  135. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:24

    MzNicky: Thanks for that trip down memory lane. I couldn’t remember where in the JG archive that shoelimpy/annie “episode” was from, and now that I’ve revisited it, I think I need to go wash the slime off.

    Yikes.

  136. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:25

    It is slimey over there, isn’t it? And rather tacky.

  137. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:26

    Oh, but they’re useful for so much more than just that, GoatBoy.

    It’s an object lesson in what happens when a narcissistic personality disorder goes untreated.

    And it’s also a lovely exemplar of that great epigraph from Mother Night that so many have already referenced in dealing with this, viz. “We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be”.

  138. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:26

    Queen of the Long Thread?!? That’s MJ’s temple! Does that mean Jillian is the high preistess of the cult of MJ?

    Wow. I gotta go check out the Long Thread. I wonder if we still worship in thongs? I’ll bring one just in case.

  139. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:27

    ME! ME! ME!

    Keep it up hon. After awhile the voices start to merge into a kind of buzzing, then you’ll lose consciousness.

  140. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:28

    You know this from experience, pagangirl?

  141. Brad R. said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:34

    She’s been banned from more websites than you could count because of her and her “boyfriend” ‘s disruptive antics. You’re just her latest conquest.

    Yep, though she ain’t gettin’ banned from here. Too much fun.

  142. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:37

    I don’t know if I’m worthy to be High Priestess of the cult of MJ…she’s too far beyond me. I think you and PP have the whole liturgy down pat.

    I’ll have to settle for being in the laity, I fear.

  143. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:48

    celticgirl! Your back! I was starting to peak while watching the patterns on your dress, then you disappeared, and Toby kept following me around messing with my head.

    I finally got a beer, though, and mellowed out. Everything’s copacthetic now.

    Jillian: I think you’re being modest. You sure you don’t have a PP thong amoung your vestments?

  144. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:50

    It’s one of the great mysteries of the order that any given acolyte’s bethonged status cannot be revealed outside the temple, my child.

  145. elendil said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:51

    Further titbits for annieangel watchers.

    Annieangel’s livejournal account. She has two friends: Brother Walter, who arrived and left with annie, and bl0odyone, who has one more alter-ego than is seemly for a pot-smoking, squirrel-eating, budding anti-Christ. Then there’s annieangel’s dead community, darkfluffybunny, which had such a hilarious description, I quote it now in full:

    About: Cults are dangerous and will lead you straight to Hell! I know that you kids today think it is “cool” to dress like a vampire and worship Wicca but you are really being lied to by Satan! Satan is devious and sneaky and he will coerce you into his service through subliminal and outright liminal rap lyrics and lesbian puke rock!

    Wiccanists will lie to you to get your money. They are little mini-satans driving around in crappy old Pintos selling chanting tapes at flea markets and summer wierdo conventions/fairs. Do you really trust some guy in a robe who tells you he can teach you how to become a witch? Who is this guy some looser who didn’t finish high school? THINK!

    If you want to be fluffy be fluffy for Christ! Buy yourself a WWJD bracelet! Get some funky Jesus T’s! Dye your hair purple for the Lord! Go to a Christian rock concert and buy a tape and play it real loud! it will still upset your parents, and we ALL KNOW that is all you really care about.

    I mean there are lots of weirdo fringe Christian groups out there. Join one of them! Consider Gnosticism. It makes Wiccanism look positively sane!

    So think about it, grab a cross and follow Jesus, you can even paint it a pretty colour, like pink.

    By the way, annieangel, if you really do know Kevin, get him some fucking help pronto. I’m not trying to be a bitch, I’m serious. He’s in trouble.

  146. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:51

    Ok, so I’m seriously not getting much of this thread anymore, so I’m resorting to the sure-fire discussion stopper…

    Yes, slides from my last vacation. Specifically, my outing to a roadside wildlife “zoo” on Highway 11, near Kirkland Lake, Ontario.

    First up…*ahem*..the otters…

  147. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 2:57

    “It’s one of the great mysteries of the order that any given acolyte’s bethonged status cannot be revealed outside the temple, my child.”

    Ooohhh…let’s go to the temple, then. Can celticgirl come, too?

  148. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:01

    cg – I meant YOU’RE back!

  149. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:02

    cg – I meant YOU’RE back!

  150. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:03

    Mal!! I am SO right there. I never thought I’d WANT to see your vacation slides. I can’t BEGIN to tell you how IN-terested I am. Don’t start with the otters. Don’t you have any slides of you guys packing the car?

    Hang on a second. (Sound of LLLlllllooooonnnnngggggg bubbling bong hit) Whhooossshhhh. Ok. Dim the lights. Go ahead.

    Seriously, Brad, Gavin, what do you need to get us a new thread, one thats (a) funny and (b) within the bounds of my admitedly limited understanding. I’ll pledge a BRAND NEW song parody. At least one that’s new to SN…

    mikey

  151. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:04

    Otters?

    Have I mentioned how overwhelming fond I am of small furry mammals with cute noses?

    Sadly enough, I could look at otter slides all night long.

    And it’s very polite of you to change the topic, Mal de mer, after that last set of completely humiliating revelations about annie……I mean, MySpace?? Like, with inverted pentagrams and everything?

    Let’s just get back to the otters, shall we? Have you ever noticed the way their little whiskers twitch when they have an oyster to eat?

  152. Marita said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:16

    Careful, Jillian. You know how mean the other kids can be to the ones who are into otters.

  153. elendil said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:20

    What I want to know is, whatever happened to Brother Walter? Did he morph into Shoelimpy? I guess you weren’t shagging him at the time, as you were pretty unequivocal back then that All sex outside of the marriage bed is a sin.

  154. J Johnson said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:24

    What’s the difference in propulsion between a river otter and a sea otter? It’s the waggle of the tail. Up/down vs. side-to-side.

  155. J Johnson said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:32

    Caitlin Flanagan is the real life version of aimless-annie.

  156. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:35

    Don’t start with the otters. Don’t you have any slides of you guys packing the car?

    Actually, I’m lying about much of this. It’s really a memory of a school trip when I was in grade 8. A schoolmate fed one of the bears a stick of chewing gum and got the tip of her middle bitten off. Then the nun punched her in the head and called her a whore.

    Christ, I’d be rich now if we’d had videocams back then.

  157. Timmah420 said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:36

    Ooh otters, what a jolly good splish splash time they have!

    I think we’ve all figured it out by now, I know I have anyway. Time for a new thread.

  158. Anonymous said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:43

    It’s not me. Annie and shoelimpy are all about pressing buttons. They live to stir up the comments section of liberal blogs.

    Bingo. Annie is starved for attention. What better way to get attention than to act like an asshole? Whether or not she believes the shit she espouses is immaterial. She just wants someone, somewhere to give a shit about her. She’s like the Mark David Chapman of trolls.

  159. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:45

    A schoolmate fed one of the bears a stick of chewing gum and got the tip of her middle bitten off.

    What an AMAZING coincidence!! The same thing happened to a friend of mine in a Bangkok Whorehouse!!!

    mikey

  160. Jeremías said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:48

    Sea otters have the thickest fur of any mammal—up to 1,000,000 hairs per square inch.

  161. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:48

    *fingers tapping*…Uh, guys? Retardo?

    Honestly, if I don’t get something to amuse me soon, I just might start wandering off into Gulf of St. Lawrence and start bashing white coats again.

  162. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:51

    She’s coming…

  163. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:54

    Hey Mal! Fuck it, man, y’know? Let’s get a sheet of that cheap shitty blotter acid, split it and chew it up, and go to the cheesiest strip club we can find. If we can’t get in trouble and piss a few peeps off, we just don’t deserve to be who we are. Right?

    Tomorrow morning, squinting against the sun, eating a huge plate of eggs and hash browns at the local truck stop, we’ll go in the restroom and do what we can for the cuts and bruises, and laugh our asses off about last nite…

    mikey

  164. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:54

    If all I want is attention, wouldn’t I have brought attention on myself?

    You all are SHOWERING me with attention. I didn’t ask to be mocked by Brad. But it seems it’s something he likes to do and it seems rather harmless because he says he’s teasing. I can believe it, after the amount of bullshit that certain people are spreading about me. Everyone knows how Brad likes to play jokes.

    But don’t forget, Brad is an evil genius and not a tame evil genius.

    The joke just really may be on all of you, in a way you would never expect for no real reason other than the joke itself.

    Just sayin’.

  165. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 3:56

    What an AMAZING coincidence!! The same thing happened to a friend of mine in a Bangkok Whorehouse!!!

    Oh…do you want to hear my story about my wild night in Patpong?

    Seriously, we hailed a taxi and I was delegated to ask the taxi driver where we could go to see a “ping pong” show. Then we drove around for the next hour, while the taxi driver stopped at various places and yelled “Ping pong?…ping pong?” and heard “No Ping pong…Ping pong over!” as a response.

    Then, I died of acute embarrassment and was cremated on the banks of the Chao Praya.

  166. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:00

    Hey, m’man, at least you left with all your digits…

    mikey

  167. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:04

    Prepare yourselves…she returns soon (I hope).

  168. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:08

    Hey, m’man, at least you left with all your digits…

    Well, it was a learning experience…Much like Margaret Cho discovered, when she found herself in a hoist in the middle of a bondage bar and tore back the leather mask covering her face to exclaim…”This really isn’t me”, I discovered, that night, that I’m pretty much a prude.

  169. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:15

    Hell wi’dat, man. I’m thinking you’d be a lot of fun to run with. ‘Course, I’m not sure you’d feel the same way. Frankly, I never felt the need to even TRY to grow up. Kind of all about Teh Fun, y’know?

    mikey

  170. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:21

    I’m thinking you’d be a lot of fun to run with.

    Well, if I’m going to be running with you, you’ll have to put up with two toddlers who only speak French and my wife’s collection of designer breast pumps.

    I predict Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, minus all the fun, of course.

  171. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:25

    Whoa. “Never Mind”. But hey, if somebody’s gonna propagate the species, I’m glad it’s you.

    Me? I have no wife, no kids, no pets and no potted plants. I have never had the courage to take responsibilty for anther life. I admire you, and you have my respect.

    mikey

  172. celticigirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:30

    Yay! Otters!

    Sorry, what were we talking about?

  173. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:33

    I’ve been there, Mikey. Start with a cat. It’s an easy pet, and if you treat it right, it’ll let you know that caring for it means something.

    After that, you might take on a fern. Kids? They’re easy. Ferns? God…

  174. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:36

    Thanks. Think I’ll keep fucking around with the ’70 Road Runner. Got her up to 600 HP, and the body/paint is done. Starting to get with the interior. That’s a kid I can love…

    mikey

  175. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:39

    Thanks. Think I’ll keep fucking around with the ’70 Road Runner. Got her up to 600 HP, and the body/paint is done. Starting to get with the interior. That’s a kid I can love…

    mikey

  176. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:40

    Is this the new long thread?

    Ferns are a real mess if you don’t know how to take care of them.

  177. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:40

    Otters have the cutest noses ever!

  178. Wha? said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:44

    A ’70 Roadrunner?!? No way!! That’s worth some $$$$!

    Being a man of more modest means, I’ve been looking into getting an old Catlina to restore – any of ‘em ’64 – ’74.

    I’m going to start a company called “Hooptiez!” specializing in just that.

  179. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:46

    Seriously, I volunteer at a local wildlife hospital and we had an abandoned 8 week old female otter pup in a couple of weeks ago. Sorry, it just doesn’t get much cuter than that. Sooooooooo soft.

  180. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:50

    Ferns are a real mess if you don’t know how to take care of them.

    That’s because you don’t feed them natural mulch, but use Miracle Gro.

    Whore!

  181. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:52

    Okay, it’s a good thing you can’t see me right now, because I’m squealing and clapping my hands like a little girl.

    BABY OTTERS?????

    OMG!!! Teh CUTE!!!!

    Okay, I think I got that out of my system now.

    (so cute!)

  182. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:55

    Well, the resident favorite before that was the juvenile red squirrel (can you say Squirrel Nutkin?), who is unbelievably cute. And I had to throw her under the bus in favor of the otter.

    How’s that for fickle?

  183. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:56

    Jillian, baby otters are cute, and bond easily with humans, but the wild adult ones are vicious. They’re like cats with very thick claws, really big teeth and very strong jaws.

    Take yer leg off, as my parents told me.

  184. Gratis` said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:58

    Ahhh, otters!

  185. Some Guy said,

    April 23, 2006 at 4:59

    Evidence of said cuteness here, on the otter hand.

  186. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:03

    Aw. Makes me wish I weren’t wearing a baby otter-pelt thong, right now.

    …what?

  187. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:03

    I’ve spent a healthy portion of my life living in some countrified places, so I’ve seen nature up close and personal. I was privileged to spend several months in Yellowstone, as well, which was just a truly awe-inspiring experience.

    I know better than to anthropomorphize animals overmuch…no matter how cute they are, they’re still wild animals, and they live by a different set of rules than we do.

    But teh cuteness…….the ungodly cuteness……..

    Doesn’t even matter how vicious or mean I know the animal to be…like celticgirl’s squirrel. Squirrels are the nastiest animals around. They fight each other constantly.

    But I still would have made a fool of myself cooing over the baby. Baby squirrels are made of pure, refined cuteness. It’s unbearable.

  188. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:04

    You’re horrible, Mal.

    I like you.

  189. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:07

    Jillian, if you haven’t been over to http://www.cuteoverload.com yet please do yourself a favor. It’s a daily dose of “Awwwwwwwwwwwww”. Good for the soul.

  190. Mo said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:08

    There is nothing to worry about.

    I am the Bishop of East Anglia. 

  191. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:11

    But teh cuteness…….the ungodly cuteness……..

    I know. But it’s really just a chance thing. Otters, baby seals…we care about them. Ugly little amphibians going extinct all over the world at an alarming rate? Not so much.

    Did you read the article in this month’s Harpers about pig farming? It’s enough to make you keep kosher.

  192. D. Sidhe said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:14

    http://www.otternet.org

    Seriously. Way cool. I’m still trying to talk my partner into taking me to the Georgia Aquarium on the grounds it has a whole new species of otter we’ve never even seen. (Small clawed otters.)

    Though, really, I want to go to see the whale sharks.

    I also know where you can print out and assemble an otter model.

  193. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:14

    I see it like this:

    There’s the “Country”
    As in “Let’s go to Pescadero for the day and have a picnic and watch the Sea Lions.”

    There’s the “Wilderness”
    As in “Let’s go backpacking up the Grand Canyon of the Tuolomne and spend a few days in the wilderness.”

    There’s the “Boondocks”
    As in “Let’s spend a week in the Boondocks, like Arches National Monument in South Utah, you know, what fun, we have to pack in our WATER!!!”

    Then there’s the Jungle. As in “Holy SHIT, why is EVERY goddam THING in this place trying to KILL me???”

    mikey

  194. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:19

    ugly? amphibians?

    Nooooooo!

    Frogs are soooooo cute! Especially when they’re big-eyed tree frogs! If the poison doesn’t kill you, teh cuteness will.

    Celticgirl, I have pretty much forbidden myself to look at cuteoverload when anyone else in the house is awake, for fear of embarrassing myself with the endless girly squeaks of delight I make.

  195. D. Sidhe said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:21

    Well, dang. I’m being moderated. Why? Because I wanted to share ottery goodness.

    Meanwhile, let me tell you about adult sea otters. They will, it seems, screw anything. Male, female, otter, sea turtle, newborn, or deceased. Male sea otters will screw female sea otters to death and *keep at it*.
    This is, maybe, not so cute. Also, they are capable of, as The Book of Ratings once put it, earning you a nickname based on the number of fingers you have.

    Admittedly cute. But bastards. (Kind of like… Oh, never mind.)

    And for the record, I like slimy amphibians as much as I like spiders. Which is a lot. How could newts not be adorable? (Well, the ones with the tails, anyway.) And tomato frogs! How dare you call them ugly!

  196. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:21

    Jillian. I’m old, I live alone. Might it be possible to get an mp3 file of those girly sqeaks of delight? I swear I won’t share them with anyone…

    mikey

  197. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:21

    Hey, good to see the General coming around. Hi, General, Sir!!

    And I agree, annieangel is really a narcissitic psycho. Kinda cool to discover that she’s Canadian. I admit I’ve had some fun with her, but in the long run she’s just a fucking crazy person who’s obsessed with her own self.

    She’s actually getting boring, now.

  198. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:27

    It really is embarrassing, mikey, because I pride myself on not being all girly – I’m tough and self-reliant and I fence and can hang sheetrock….

    But one cute bunny or kitty and it’s all over for me.

  199. GregH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:29

    Reunion month at S,N! first Ukko, then Tapio, then Jockstrap Johnson, then Wha?

    What the heck is going on here?

    aka Gregor Samsa

  200. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:29

    Me, I like puppies.

  201. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:30

    OK, I got a really embarrassing question to ask.

    What’s the deal with “teh?”

    I mean, I kinda get it, but I don’t really.

  202. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:31

    See, JG using his dominant position in the blogging world comes on here and knowlingly spreads lies about me and now people are repeating it. It’s kind of like, ummm, defamation of character. He does this because he has no life and no friends because he mother never hugged him as a child.

    That’s because he’s a fucking piece of shit. :) He sure showed up here fast though, I’ve never seen him here before….

    Idiots. Shoelimpy is Patriotboy. He used to call himself Reverend Monkey.

    You’re right g, this is getting boring. I thought we were ignoring annie now to show her how lame she is and stuff?

    Aren’t we supposed to sit in a circle around Jillian and hang on her every word?

    Or something…Brad…this was a big flop. We’ll think of something snuggled up in bed tomorrow morning.

    Don’t worry, we’re still the funniest. Jesus General is just a humor parasite lodged in Shoe’s ass.

  203. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:37

    “teh” is probably the most common typo in the whole world. It’s just kind of gotten a life of its own at this point.

    And puppies are just living embodiments of everything that’s right with this world.

  204. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:40

    Puppies are teh evil. They poo and pee and bark and bite and they never go to sleep and they chew up all your shit.

  205. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:40

    I grew up on the margins of human civilisation. Seriously, the next biggest town north of where I lived was Mirmansk, Russia.

    I’m not sure Americans really understand how densely populated and settled their country is. Or, if they’ve been to Europe or Asia, maybe they do. I remember flying over the coast along Georgia and the Carolinas between the Caribbean and Montreal and couldn’t believe how, at night, it was one, unending sea of light. Vast expanses of land…developped and settled.

    To grow up in an empty place like Canada is to really understand what nature is like without human beings.

    It’s brutal, it’s alienating, it’s lonely, it’s awe-inspiring and it’s above all, quiet.

  206. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:41

    200!!

    And finally, the owls are flying.

  207. GregH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:44

    Ah, ‘teh’ he’s a dirty bird but he’s my dirty bird.

  208. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:47

    Oh, shut the fuck up, annie. The General is a friend of mine and you’re just a psycho hypocrit twat.

    If you hate puppies, it just means that you are fucking worthless as a pet owner.”They poo and pee and bark and bite and they never go to sleep and they chew up all your shit.”

    ACtually, that sounds just like what annie’s doing on this blog.

    Jillian, on the other hand, is great.

  209. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:48

    Oh, shut the fuck up, annie. The General is a friend of mine and you’re just a psycho hypocrit twat.

    If you hate puppies, it just means that you are fucking worthless as a pet owner.

    “They poo and pee and bark and bite and they never go to sleep and they chew up all your shit.”

    ACtually, that sounds just like what annie’s doing on this blog.

    Jillian, on the other hand, is great.

  210. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:49

    Now, why would anyone compare so lovely a flower as is encapsulated in that vulgar term above to such a repellant personality?

    I thought straight men liked such things.

  211. PupH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:50

    Hey now, let’s just walk away from the pup hatred real nice and slow and nobody will get a fang popped in their ASS!

  212. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:51

    The General is a Major Cobag.

  213. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 5:52

    Not that I don’t get your point, g – because I oh so totally do – but you know what I mean.

    On a related note, I tried the insult generator at Rum and Monkey today, and it told me my insult name was “Republican”.

    I think the damn thing’s psychic.

  214. Mal de mer said,

    April 23, 2006 at 6:00

    Now, why would anyone compare so lovely a flower as is encapsulated in that vulgar term above to such a repellant personality?

    Which dovetails nicely into the discussion going on at Jesus’ General right now, where they’re discussing the insanely hysterical video funded by Kirk Cameron on the ineluctable proof that God designs bananas to look exactly, precisely like cocks, not only appearance, but in actual functionality.

    Or something. It’s hilarious.

  215. PupH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 6:02

    Anybody else read Sexing the Cherry? It has a funny take on the banana issue.

  216. GregH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 6:06

    Such a fine literate pup you are PupH!

  217. Dan Someone said,

    April 23, 2006 at 6:09

    Brad, Gavin, seriously. Any more threads like this and I am going to report you to the Internets Police and get them to issue a warrant for this bog’s immediate transfer to Xanga.

  218. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 6:10

    I hear the New York Law Firm can help with that, Dan.

  219. GregH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 6:43

    Tubesock is that you?

  220. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 6:53

    I love the bananas and how they are fashioned to fit the human hand and mouth.

  221. F. M. Asshat said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:09

    EAT IT!!!!1! LOL!!!

  222. shingles said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:09

    Out of curiosity, what’s the record for the longest thread here at SN?

  223. MomH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:13

    Right now it’s at about 799.

  224. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:17

    I’m responsible for the long thread being so long. They all started spamming it with chat after my thread got bigger. :)

    I own this board.

  225. Pinko Punko said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:20

    First of all, wha? takes like 500 years off, returns as Capital Wha? with a stunning mastery of the form, then mikey (who the f***?) feigns boredom and proceeds to dominate the proceedings like MJ, no not MJ, MJ’ and then runs the table until PupH pops a fang in someone’s ass. Good times!

    Also, a bunch of other people got all meta and demanded new “thread” a la FDL so we could all meet up somewhere else and talk about the same stuff! I don’t htink there is anything I can add, except Otters truly are the bomb!!!!!!!.

  226. MzNicky said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:22

    Starve a troll, feed a fever. You finally got it. Congratulations.

  227. shingles said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:22

    Tubesock is that you?

  228. Capt. Trollypants said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:23

    I can add something: wha? is king of the munchwagons, PupH has fleas, and I would kindly like to invite double-a over to my pad where I will fix her a romantic, candlelit dinner of it. I know she loves the taste!!!11!!!!

    COBAGZ!2!!!!@ PULLZ MY FIGERAZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@#2

  229. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:24

    MzNicky has crabs.

  230. I need a more interesting handle said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:43

    You know, if you make this much fuss over an invented troll, everyone’s going to want to be one.

    Of course, posing as an opponent in order to make the rest of them look like idiots is a tradition going back to Ben Franklin, so there’s that… personally, I think it’s bad form.

  231. mt said,

    April 23, 2006 at 7:49

    Done. I read the entire thread. My eyes are bleeding. Never again!

  232. Sjofn said,

    April 23, 2006 at 8:21

    Nothing says “attention whore” like squealing some other girl is jealous because the Nothing says “attention whore” like squealing some other girl is jealous because the

  233. Sjofn said,

    April 23, 2006 at 8:23

    Dammit, I messed up. :(

    The rest was supposed to say, “because the booooooooys love you sooooooo much moooooooore.”

  234. Demogenes Aristophanes said,

    April 23, 2006 at 8:46

    Outing annieangel/Allen Butler hasn’t a happy task. It has been a Christian one, however. Some people really do need help. It’s called ‘socialization’ and it’s not covered in homeschool.

    But we were all 23 and full of beans at one point, so some leeway is granted. Eventually, annieangel/Allen Butler will thank us for this. He’ll be a better parodist and more socialized from the lesson.

  235. Demogenes Aristophanes said,

    April 23, 2006 at 8:47

    ‘hasn’t BEEN a happy dask’

    Down vodka shots, bad vodka shots!

  236. Demogenes Aristophanes said,

    April 23, 2006 at 8:48

    TASK for fuck’s sake. In a more just world I’m bleeding at the bottom of a ditch somewhere …

  237. Deez said,

    April 23, 2006 at 9:04

    King Jaffi Joffur please –

    “yeah, hello, king..”

  238. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 9:13

    Allen Butler has never once posted on this site.

    Some things are teasing, Brad, but letting it get out of control is another thing entirely when it starts becomming personal and when it starts involving lies and bullshit about people in my life and the carrying out of an intentional identity smear that has snowballed out of control thanks to a few specific assholes who post here. It started on Atrios with Richard/Carpbasman, and you know what? It’s stalking pure and simple. And your lightheartedness without understanding the scope has given a forum for people to not only mock me but to actually spread lies about me.

    I’m not Allen Butler. Shoe is. I’ve about had it with this crap. I think I’ve been a pretty good sport about the teasing but it is getting out of control.

    I mean fuck, my legs are much nicer than Shoe’s.

    ‘Night.

  239. STH said,

    April 23, 2006 at 9:37

    Hoo boy. MzNicky, you called it. Those narcissists really don’t respond well to being ignored, do they?

  240. Marq said,

    April 23, 2006 at 9:52

    I’m responsible for the long thread being so long. They all started spamming it with chat after my thread got bigger. :)

    Four things.
    1.) The recent “Longish Thread,” was informally known as “Gary Ruppert II: Electric Boogaloo,” and it was about the Rupeman, not you. Or, at least it was, before you pilfered it.
    2.) “Your” thread, aka GR2, never outpaced the one, true Long Threadâ„¢. The closest it got was within about 75 when it approached 500. Currently, the Long Threadâ„¢ is about 200 ahead of GR2. You lose.
    3.) The Long Threadâ„¢ was around way before you were even pissing off the folk over at Jesus’ General. In fact, a good 2/3rds of its posts are about Marie Jon’, not you. Phhbbtttthhpt!
    4.) Finally, the 2 threads specifically about you haven’t even come close to eclipsing GR2, let alone the Long Threadâ„¢. And, no fair combining. Even if you did, Marie Jon’ would beat you there, too.

  241. Kathleen said,

    April 23, 2006 at 10:23

    do y’know what are way smarter and cooler than otters? Beavers.

    http://www.theonion.com/content/node/47469

    how do you embed the stupid links anyway?

  242. Pinko Punko said,

    April 23, 2006 at 10:57

    I love it when Marq gets all up peeps grillz!@

    Although I won’t be able to understand what he wrote without a Power Point presentation of the same words. I’m visual that way.

    DA- looks like JG says shoe is AB, which I I think is a pseudonym, and that is cool. What I would like is a link to shoelimpy trolling beliefnet. Now that is low. That being said, Capt T. passed on some sketchy evidence related to shoelimpyâ„¢ at 3B Sorry but You Tube registration required. Dear lord is it raunchy. shoelimpy seems to have a MOUTH (so claims Capn T)

  243. elendil said,

    April 23, 2006 at 11:32

    Even if you did, Marie Jon’ would beat you there, too.

    And what’s kinda sad is that Marie Jon will always win. Annieangel’s got nice legs ‘n all, but Marie Jon has got that whole creepy conservative perfection thing going on, like that red-headed Desperate Housewife, whatsername. Who knows what lies beneath that immaculate veneer? Annieangel… we’ve seen her spread-legged twice, and you can get her half naked every Thursday. There’s the southern, um, “belle” angle, but I’m guessing that it doesn’t have quite the same allure to straight Sadly, No! males as showing Miss Virginous the error of her ways.

  244. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 12:20

    Sorry peeps, but you must, must MUST follow PP’s linky and watch that horror show for yourself.

    Whoa.

  245. cranky said,

    April 23, 2006 at 12:50

    That shoelimpy video was one of the creepiest things I’ve seen in a while. Suddenly all the funnin’ with annie seems, well, not so funny.

  246. elendil said,

    April 23, 2006 at 13:46

    That shoelimpy video was one of the creepiest things I’ve seen in a while.

    Uhh.. wait. I thought that was a joke? That’s not really Allen Butler, is it? I mean, I thought he had short blonde hair for a start.

  247. GTR said,

    April 23, 2006 at 16:53

    Does this mean that Butler Thomas on Blogging Points is just a made up combination of shoe’s last name and annie’s? Annie, is your last name Thomas?

  248. Gratis said,

    April 23, 2006 at 17:09

    That last one was me. I’ve been trying everything I could to get a post up. Big kisses to whoever fixed me.

  249. Capt. Trollypants said,

    April 23, 2006 at 17:31

    That is TOTALLY HIMZ DUDEOS.

  250. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 18:47

    Ick. That was so creepy I turned it off quick. How does the G know it has anything to do with the pests?

  251. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:10

    Dude doesn’t match the pic on his blog, trollyboy. What gives?

    I think you got bad info…

  252. Demogenes Aristophanes said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:13

    I’m not Allen Butler. Shoe is. I’ve about had it with this crap. I think I’ve been a pretty good sport about the teasing but it is getting out of control.

    Finally, the facade is let down, if obliquely and only for a moment. And as the truth starts to come out, annieangel retreats to the ridiculous position of victimhood over “teasing”.

    This is the annieangel who regularly accuses female commenters on S,N! of being “jealous” of her, who rudely renders “celticgirl” as “pagangirl”, who unhingedly describes proven, well-liked contributors (and even blog team members!) here as “stalkers” and “trolls” … and who, finally, stalks off in a snit when some of her own medicine is handed back to her.

    I have a couple of theories of what annieangel is, and what it would mean if she was one of these things:

    - If she’s a parodist, she has a poor understanding of the point of parody, because there is a responsibility of the parodist to – if not necessarily overtly or at all times – let the audience in on the joke. Or what’s the point? Parody, satire, humor – these are worthy activities in and of themselves, but they are also tools for getting at truth, exposing foolish and dangerous behavior and speech, and uniting fellow humans in striving for a better world (which is a grandiose and ultimately humor-sapping way of defining the underlying purpose of parody/satire/humor, but it is also true, so forgive me). If annieangel (and shoelimpy et. al.) really is a parodist in her own mind, then she would do well to consider that the people in this community would be happy to help her in that project, if she would treat us respectfully as allies who can be trusted with “the joke”, instead of as lab rats for her experiments.

    - Which brings us to another interpretation of annieangel. If she’s mounting a complex sociological/artistic project/experiment of some sort, well fine. It would explain a great deal. It would even be acceptable on some level for a person(s) to do such a thing just to do it. But she certainly can’t expect the rest of us to simply stand around and allow her to fuck with us, while never replying in kind. If this is the case, then the victim card being played by annieangel here approaches the pathological.

    - Finally, there remains the possibility that she is who she states she is, in actual possession of the absurd beliefs she professes to have. If this is the case, annieangel is quite simply batshit insane. And tiresomely so.

  253. Demogenes Aristophanes said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:20

    To add a quick point on annieangel as parody – I think quite of few of us here actually restrained ourselves from trying to expose annieangel, for quite a long time, in the hopes that she would either disappear while still entertaining a la Floyd Alvis Cooper, or else let us in on the joke in the spirit of fellowship with political allies.

  254. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:33

    Annieangel may be a parody, but if she is, it really makes you wonder why a person would want to make up such an unpleasant character.

    I don’t mean the faux-Christian stuff. That’s your stock-in-trade parodist’s stuff. But the weird narcissism, the exhibitionism, the attention-whoring, the nastiness, the jealousy — that’s really disturbing, and one wonders about the mental and emotional stability of the person who exhibits it, whether in reality or pretence.

  255. Demogenes Aristophanes said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:35

    Yeah, g, it’s taking commitment to staying in character to a level that defeats whatever original intent might have been there. If a parodist, annieangel has a lot to learn about the craft.

  256. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:37

    I’m really puzzled by the idea that anyone was taken in by her. MzNicky and the good General nailed it completely – she’s a complete narcissist. She’s arguably a narcissist to such a degree that she might very well be diagnostic under current DSMIV standards…I’m not a mental health professional, nor do I diagnose people I’ve never met before, but it’s all right there, people. Read what she’s written, and then read this.

    So, as far as the “political allies” thing goes….sorry to be blunt, but forget it. Narcissists don’t have political beliefs – they don’t have ANY beliefs outside of how special they are. There’s no conscience there, political or otherwise, because in order to have a conscience, you have to be able to think of other human beings as creatures of a worth roughly approximating your own. Annie can’t do that.

    To be honest, in some ways I feel sort of bad seeing her get picked on like this, because I really am quite convinced that she’s suffering from a mental illness, and it’s mean to pick on the mentally ill. The only thing that makes it okay for me is the idea that she brings it on herself, and perhaps if she manages to get enough contempt and scorn thrown her way for her behavior, she might someday seek out the help she needs.

  257. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:40

    Here’s one of the more interesting excerpts from that link above…

    Narcissists have little sense of humor. They don’t get jokes, not even the funny papers or simple riddles, and they don’t make jokes, except for sarcastic cracks and the lamest puns. This is because, lacking empathy, they don’t get the context and affect of words or actions, and jokes, humor, comedy depend entirely on context and affect. They specialize in sarcasm about others and mistake it for wit, but, in my experience, narcissists are entirely incapable of irony — thus, I’ve been chagrinned more than once to discover that something I’d taken as an intentional pose or humorous put-on was, in fact, something the narcissist was totally serious about. Which is to say that they come mighty close to parody in their pretensions and pretending, so that they can be very funny without knowing it, but you’d better not let on that you think so.

  258. Demogenes Aristophanes said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:47

    Jillian, I tend to agree with your (not)-diagnosis. I was just saying that – for me at least, and I suspect several others – there was a period where we held out hope that aa was a parodist and a political ally who would reveal it in due time.

    That time has come and gone, however.

    I was never “taken in” by her, but was willing to play along in the hopes of an eventual payoff.

  259. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:48

    Thanks DA, I appreciate you pointing that out about her continual reference to ‘pagan’ – I am a pagan, but the way it was being used there was just plain mean. And unfair. I can put my value system up against any Christian’s any day of the week and have nothing to be ashamed of.

    Jillian: I think you’re right, and it is tempting to feel a little sorry for her, but she seems to be very aware of her behavior and relishes it. I’ve spent enough time in graduate level psych classes to recognize there is definitely a problem there, and one that could be helped if treated. Unfortunately, we have enabled her. MzNicky was right: she should have been ignored from the outset.

  260. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:50

    Yeah, that makes sense….I came across a bit harsher than I intended, I think. Sorry ’bout that.

  261. celticgirl said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:52

    I think we’re all pretty burned out on it, that’s all. Don’t feel like you need to apologize. She has probably been harsher to you more than anybody else.

  262. Pinko Punko said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:55

    You guys, she’s not even close to a narcissist. She’s satirizing the entire internet, not just one persona. She is aping the behavior seen by all of us on many a thread, just usually embodied by different commenters. I think she has raised it to an entire art form. I’m being serious. I think it does get to be annoying because the point of the joke is that you never get more than a wink, you never are let in. Some my claim she is a narcissist, but that response is her desire, the descent of discourse into the usual internet BS of name calling, emotional frumpery, puffing up of attitudes, people swinging their wieners and the non-wieners around. People claimed Andy Kaufman was a genius, but some of his shtick was 100% audience antagonization. Jim Morrison of the Doors would do it at shows. The joke is in winding people up. She switches chartacters whereas Gary never ever does, whats the difference? I would be much mroe worried about Gar-Bears mental health.

    I’m not defending her or it, I’m just saying that the pathological part comes from the fact that her sole enjoyment of the internet is antagonizing other people, but how is that different from a Freeper?

    ANyhow. Back to our regularly scheduled program.

    Gregor Samsa can EAT IT!!!!!@@!23

  263. Demogenes Aristophanes said,

    April 23, 2006 at 19:58

    celticgirl – I’m glad that you got that I wasn’t saying “pagan” is an insult, but rather that aa’s use of it was. ‘Cos I might not have been totally clear about that.

  264. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 20:00

    I’m not really WORRIED about annie, but I sure am glad I don’t know her in person.

  265. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 20:04

    I’m just saying that the pathological part comes from the fact that her sole enjoyment of the internet is antagonizing other people, but how is that different from a Freeper?

    Freepers don’t take their show on the road.

    And “enjoying winding other people up so that they talk about you” is pretty much the definition of a narcissistic personality disorder.

    It may be funny, it may be not – but it’s still a mental illness. And there’s still something a bit sad about making fun of someone with a mental illness – even when they go out of their way to bring it on themselves.

  266. Demogenes Aristophanes said,

    April 23, 2006 at 20:04

    Well, PP, as I mentioned here or somewhere else (can’t remember), I’ve got this ‘situationist’ friend who used to go into art galleries and take a dump on the floor. So, you know, great – he’s really sticking it to someone or something somewhere …

    But really, he’s just taking a crap on the floor.

  267. Jillian said,

    April 23, 2006 at 20:06

    Ceci n’est pas un crap!

  268. Jeremías said,

    April 23, 2006 at 20:16

    If there is a group that is in on the joke, it is a small, endogenous, and hermetic one. The shtick does not aim for widening inclusiveness.

  269. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 21:41

    Once I was gazing at my relfection in a pool of water and I turned into a flower. But that never happened.

    This is truly beautiful. I mean that. I’ve never been treated with so much love and kindness just for being myself.

    I must be pretty special! I mean, I always thought I was and now you have all proven to me that I am! I am truly in awe of these comments. Truly.

    I can’t believe the way I’ve gotten into your heads without doing anything! I’m just a person like all of you except I’ve been given the spotlight! And because of that you’ve made it grow and grow and grow until you’ve given me some Candyman type of power that is just hilarious!

    Now, go back to discussing me or ignoring me or whatever it is you’re doing.

    It’s insane! And you too, Pinko!! That really hurts!!

  270. mikey said,

    April 23, 2006 at 21:56

    then mikey (who the f***?) feigns boredom and proceeds to dominate the proceedings like MJ

    Hmmm, this leads to many questions.

    1.) Have I somehow violated some kind of protocol?

    2.) Are you supposed to be “somebody” to comment here? If so, can someone direct me to the window where I can fill out an application?

    3.) Is there some secret rule about how many comments are allowed before one is “dominating the proceedings”?

    Oviously, I like it here and certainly don’t want to break the rules and piss off the locals, so any guidance will be gratefully accepted…

    mikey

  271. annieangel said,

    April 23, 2006 at 22:06

    Mikey = Parody

    I expect him to be trolled and libelled and I want at least three threads proving that he is parody on my desk by morning.

    Not only is he a parody, he’s a snarky parody. Let’s keel haul him, maties, arrrrrr!!!

  272. g said,

    April 23, 2006 at 23:37

    Who said that about you, Mikey? I forget and I’m too tired to scroll up and look.

    Fugedaboudit. We like you just fine.

  273. Pinko Punko said,

    April 24, 2006 at 0:11

    Mikey, I was giving mad props!

    in a non-crazy mixed up world, thread domination due to awesomeness would be awesome! Give yourself a slap on the butt, and don’t worry about it!

    annie a, I was giving mad props! Give yourself a slap on the butt and don’t worry about it!

    LAst thing, calling celticgirl “pagangirl” is like calling GuinnessGuy “NattyLightGuy” or Pinko Punko “Pinko Punkass” or BRad R. “Sally”. Think like four-year olds peeps.

    Also, butt slaps all around the house. None for whoever posted that Day-by-Day, because I need to go kill myself now.

  274. Pinko Punko said,

    April 24, 2006 at 0:15

    Also, if mikey had to explain how he was not a parody, he’d probably send B and G and e-mail saying, “no I’m just a guy, here’s what I think, also my tone is pretty consistent and I general just snark on the threads” unlike others (I’m looking at you Capt. T) who are completely inconsistent and shrill and say totally different things from one minute to the next and has a history of doing that on about 50 other websites. Plus there was that time in Mexico. Poor FM Asshat, his butt is still sore. And Shortsniffer, what a maroon.

  275. Jillian said,

    April 24, 2006 at 0:24

    Cap’n Rolypants is totally afraid of girls.

  276. mindblown said,

    April 24, 2006 at 2:47

    I’m in awe. That website is the most brilliant satire of some half-educated, religious fundamentalist freak holding forth on what is good for the rest of the country that I have ever seen. AnnieAngel, I salute you (gentlemen in tuxedos raise glasses of champagne).

  277. mindblown said,

    April 24, 2006 at 2:48

    I’m in awe. That website is the most brilliant satire of some half-educated, religious fundamentalist freak holding forth on what is good for the rest of the country that I have ever seen. AnnieAngel, I salute you (gentlemen in tuxedos raise glasses of champagne).

  278. fredludd said,

    April 24, 2006 at 4:17

    This whole discussion is too much like a sampling from the Landover Baptist mailbag (http://www.landoverbaptist.org/mail/)

  279. Anonymous said,

    April 24, 2006 at 7:10

    “Think like four-year olds peeps.”

    That might very well sum up this whole episode. Some of us, thankfully, matured beyond that age.

    P.S. I thought Brad liked being called “Sally”…

  280. celticgirl said,

    April 24, 2006 at 7:12

    oops…that anon was me (too early here)

  281. John said,

    April 24, 2006 at 8:03

    elendil wrote:

    There’s the southern, um, “belle” angle, but I’m guessing that it doesn’t have quite the same allure to straight Sadly, No! males as showing Miss Virginous the error of her ways.

    And therefore never send to know for whom the belle trolls,
    she trolls for thee.

  282. annieangel said,

    April 24, 2006 at 16:35

    Pagangirl is so mature that she almost exploded with delight the first time she saw me post here.

    Truthfully, I was just passing through and wasn’t going to stay until she started gushing at me.

    I’m glad I did, I like it here.

  283. Yosef said,

    April 24, 2006 at 17:42

    Hey guys, what’s going on?

  284. Sigmund said,

    April 24, 2006 at 17:44

    Don’t be so happy about your performance, Annie. We used to spend a lot of time psychoanalyzing Dr. BLT too. Think of it as scientific curiousity. Some people spend their careers studying worms, you know.

  285. Timmah420 said,

    April 24, 2006 at 18:09

    Harhar, Your site has gotten at least ten times funnier since I\’ve seen it last, Annie, I know those semi nude torso\’s weren\’t there the last time I clicked through. And those JC and Brad quotes at the bottom? Magnifico!

  286. annieangel said,

    April 24, 2006 at 18:28

    Funnier?

  287. Timmah420 said,

    April 24, 2006 at 21:47

    Yeah, funnier. As in, it was funny to begin with (although admittedly a large part of the joke was on me) and now it’s even more hilarious.
    Why not just go the rest of the way and have your box showcased on the left side and your arse on the right, make sure the rose petals keep falling though, that really completes it.

    I used to wonder what truly religious people would think when they go to your site, what with all the vulgarity, the calls for murder and genocide and the like, but after seeing that “way of the master” video where he just about jams that banana down his throat, I’ve just about given up trying to understand the thought process that leads to that sort of reaoning, lest I fall prey to it myself.

  288. Timmah420 said,

    April 24, 2006 at 21:47

    Yeah, funnier. As in, it was funny to begin with (although admittedly a large part of the joke was on me) and now it’s even more hilarious.
    Why not just go the rest of the way and have your box showcased on the left side and your arse on the right, make sure the rose petals keep falling though, that really completes it.

    I used to wonder what truly religious people would think when they go to your site, what with all the vulgarity, the calls for murder and genocide and the like, but after seeing that “way of the master” video where he just about jams that banana down his throat, I’ve just about given up trying to understand the thought process that leads to that sort of reaoning, lest I fall prey to it myself.

  289. annieangel said,

    April 24, 2006 at 22:27

    Well Timmah, at least you aren’t bitter because I hate you.

    Newflash Timmah:

    YOU ARE THE JOKE. And it’s just not funny.

  290. Timmah420 said,

    April 24, 2006 at 23:41

    Ok, Annie, I’ll bite one more time.

    Let’s just assume (obviously for the sake of argument) that you are totally, 100%, fresh squeezed honest about your opinions and ideas. Stay with me…

    What, then, does it say about the absurdity of your positions that everyone on this site, including the Ruppert troll, has dismissed them as a bad joke told by a poor satirist? (Either that or a brilliant one, I’m looking at you Pinko!).

    What does it say when this has happened time and time again, on all sorts of different websites to only you and the company you keep.

    If this is a joke, it’s getting mighty complicated and tiresome. If not, I think that would make me even sadder for you. If the latter is the case, seek professional help. Maybe do so anyway.

    I’m not trying to be mean this time. I seriously feel bad for you. Get some help.

  291. Noone said,

    April 24, 2006 at 23:55

    “Until Gavin bans me….come on Gavin….got the balls big guy????”

    She LOVES being banned, it reenforced her percecution complex.

    Burning martyr…

  292. annieangel said,

    April 25, 2006 at 1:54

    Timmah, do you really think that they are going to be your friend because you think you have bigger balls than Gavin and you’re going to come on and mouth off at me after I’ve banned you from my site?

    They see you the same way I do. As a little dog trying to run with the big dogs but who still pisses like a pup.

    If I wanted to, me and my friends could follow you all over the internet, telling lies about you as if we sound knowledgeable. We could make your internet experience a living hell, the same way you are trying to do to me. But I feel sorry for people who do that the way I feel sorry for you.

    Seek help freak.

  293. birdseatbugs said,

    April 25, 2006 at 3:06

    John, this: And therefore never send to know for whom the belle trolls,
    she trolls for thee.
    made me laugh out loud like nothing else has in the last couple of days. Well done, sir!

  294. Timmah420 said,

    April 29, 2006 at 4:28

    I wasn’t going to respond again, but could you clarify what the hell you are talking about? Will who like me? The people on this board? the other sites that have figured out your game?

    I do have real life friends, despite what you might treat it as, this site isn’t the high school popularity contest you seem to think it is.

  295. Annie Alcholic said,

    March 7, 2007 at 20:36

    Annie angel PWNS!

    She has the body… of a whale.
    She has the brain… of a nazi who was hit on the head when he was born.
    She has the man… her father who ass-rapes her and she is the only one enjoying it.
    She has the cunt… filled of maggots.
    She has the grammar… that she leaves in the toilet floating.
    Her loving mother… suffers that she was christian and could not have an abortion.

  296. Pinko Punko said,

    July 16, 2008 at 10:19

    good times.

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