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16

Andrew, please tell us you were joking




Posted at 18:40 by Sadly, No!

The one sentence that (we predict) will make SullyWatch‘s brain (to say nothing of Jo Fish‘s) explode:

…and I think it’s highly unhelpful to conflate criticism of this president with hatred.

Results 1 – 10 of 250 English pages from www.andrewsullivan.com for bush hatred

PS: SullyWatch generously provided some Arabic-English translation following our Jen “Daughter of World O’Crap” Shroder post yesterday.

(Added link, fixed quote — thanks to Frederick.)

22 Comments »

  1. salvage said,

    September 16, 2004 at 19:21

    Andy doesn’t need to be consistent or logical, he’s just noticed that Bush isn’t going to be grand marshal of the San Francisco Gay Pride March any time soon so all of the sudden Bush isn’t quite the steely eyed diplomat/warrior he used to be in Andy’s mind.

    If Bush were to say okay to gay marriage Andy would be back to his ?Rah! Rah! Bush?s my man!? cheerleading faster than you can say Flippy the Flopping weasel.

  2. Frederick said,

    September 16, 2004 at 20:09

    You left off the link to Sully. To be precise, Sully’s statement was a clause of a sentence, not a sentence. But yes, it does seem a tad inconsistent with his prior ouevre.

  3. Frederick said,

    September 16, 2004 at 20:23

    btw, I thought “bush hatred” was the supposed extreme reaction of some famous English poet who was so shocked on his wedding night at the sight of his wife’s pubic hair that he never fucked her and ultimately died a virgin. Sorry, I can’t remember his name or find it on the Web but it’s in “The Book of Lists.” Or perhaps the phrase refers to Sully’s own reaction under similar circumstances, I dunno.

  4. Simbaud said,

    September 16, 2004 at 20:50

    Frederick,

    You are thinking of the English art critic John Ruskin.

    Say, you’re not Frederick of Frederick’s of Hollywood, are you?

  5. Andrew McManama said,

    September 16, 2004 at 20:51

    why does anyone care what andrew sullivan thinks? he’s such a tosser it’s ridiculous.
    he’s obviously confused.
    I think people should stop paying attention to him and eventually he’ll disappear.

  6. spearNmagicHelmet said,

    September 16, 2004 at 20:56

    Fuck Andrew Sullivan. Figuratively, that is. He’s a doosh.

  7. Lick Bush said,

    September 16, 2004 at 21:21

    Don’t understand. “bush hatred” per sullivan is not necessarily implied by “bush criticism.” Is bush hatred therefore supposed not to exist? Do you not hate bush as surely as you disagree with him?

    Google “I hate Bush” and Atrios — 325 pages worth. “I hate bush” and Kos gets 588 pages. Your point here is completely mysterious.

  8. Frederick said,

    September 16, 2004 at 21:30

    You are thinking of the English art critic John Ruskin.

    I dunno, that name doesn’t ring a bell. But from the Internet I gather that supposedly Ruskin did get married and not consummate the marriage for some reason.

    Say, you’re not Frederick of Frederick’s of Hollywood, are you?

    Sadly, No! (catchy phrase, that)

  9. bellatrys said,

    September 16, 2004 at 22:00

    Yeah, it was Ruskin. It all came out when a few years later his wife fell in love with an artist friend of theirs, Millais, and there was a messy annulment. All it says here is that their marriage was never consummated because Ruskin “had severe phobias”.

  10. bellatrys said,

    September 16, 2004 at 22:01

    sorry, that’s “several phobias”, I suppose severe goes without saying with phobia.

  11. Anonymous said,

    September 16, 2004 at 23:07

    Google “I hate Bush” and Atrios — 325 pages worth. “I hate bush” and Kos gets 588 pages.

    That’s because kos and atrios have comments sections. Fuck andrew sullavin, seriously.

  12. agrajag said,

    September 17, 2004 at 0:57

    Google “I hate Bush” and Atrios — 325 pages worth. “I hate bush” and Kos gets 588 pages. Your point here is completely mysterious.

    Oddly enough, google “I hate Bush” and site:atrios.blogspot.com (y’know, to get results from, y’know, Atrios’ actual site), and you get nothing.

    Funny, that.

  13. Lick Bush said,

    September 17, 2004 at 1:23

    boy agrajag, you got me. So I remove the quotation marks, add your site: qualifier just like your sully example above and I only yield 108 pages. Daily Kos yields only 41 pages of Bush hatred with the quotes intact and an astonishing 1700 with them gone. Burn on me!

    beyond trivia: Are you honestly contesting there is some very serious and heartfelt bush-hatred there? Do you yourself NOT hate Bush?? Again, where is the ‘gotcha’ in this post?? I’m mystified.

  14. agrajag said,

    September 17, 2004 at 2:14

    So I remove the quotation marks

    So you found 104 entries in which atrios says the words “I,” “hate,” and “Bush” somewhere within… what, a week of each other (pretty sure Atrios’ archives are divided by week)? Not what I’d call significant.

    I could respond to what shall be termed for the sake of argument the ‘substance’ of your statement, and explain the point which you so strenuously attempt to miss, but frankly until we get the basic operation of the Google search engine hammered out for you we’re just not going to get anywhere.

  15. Barb said,

    September 17, 2004 at 3:07

    The only people we hate are those with the power to hurt us or to hurt what we love. Bush is hurting America.

  16. Lick Bush said,

    September 17, 2004 at 3:16

    Thanks for proving my point for me Barb. Bush is hurting America. We hate those who are hurting America. Ergo, we hate Bush. Agrajag for some reason would rather pirouette around his hate. Maybe to make an utterly idiotic point about Andrew Sullivan that doesnt withstand the merest scrutiny.

    For the record, I hate Bush, and I’m happy to admit it.

  17. vachon said,

    September 17, 2004 at 3:41

    I’ve heard Andrew Sullivan will conflate anything with legs.

  18. Ann (not Coulter) said,

    September 17, 2004 at 15:58

    Well, that’s a bit small of you, vachon. I understand he’s not actually all that particular about legs.

  19. Anonymous said,

    September 17, 2004 at 21:44

    Bite Me

  20. Andrew McManama said,

    September 17, 2004 at 23:11

    This may be in bad taste, but doesn’t Andrew Sullivan have HIV? I don’t think I’d fuck him…

  21. piotr said,

    September 18, 2004 at 9:01

    Bush is a singularly un-appealing character, who started his presidency quite nicely from wrecking the budget, dismantling what he could from environment protection and saving us from such nightmares like protecting workers against excruciating pain from repetive motion syndrom.

    His personal traits are not much better, smirking, hypocritical religiosity and compulsive spewing of falsehood (well, perhaps just calculated spewing). Then the matter of his intelligence that is at best carefully hidden.

    From there he advanced to “war of whimsy” (a.k.a. “war of choice”) and gay bashing. Now some people hate Bush. How unhelpful!

    Un-what?

  22. A said,

    December 25, 2006 at 15:13

    A

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